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The role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale behaviour

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2016-06-07 11:42 -0500
Last post2016-06-07 13:25 -0500
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  The role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale behaviour Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 11:42 -0500
    Re: The role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale behaviour ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-07 12:34 -0500
    Re: The role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale behaviour jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-07 18:15 +0000
    Re: The role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale behaviour Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-07 13:25 -0500

#583586 — The role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale behaviour

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-07 11:42 -0500
SubjectThe role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale behaviour
Message-ID<ONidnZc4_N73ZMvKnZ2dnUU7-fednZ2d@giganews.com>
The role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale 
behaviour
> http://phys.org/news/2016-06-role-statistics-quantum-scale-microscale.html
> http://cdn.phys.org/newman/csz/news/800/2016/theroleofsta.jpg



> The simple reason why it is wrong to assume that microscopic
> trajectories exist is because, in quantum mechanics, we can only
> approximately determine position and speed. This is due to a law of
> quantum physics, called the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which
> prevents the experimental observation of trajectories and other
> continuous changes in time.

> Hofmann shows that this uncertainty of time evolution is a result of
> the fundamental laws of motion. At the macroscopic limit, motion is
> described by a change in time along a trajectory of fixed energy.
> This relation between energy and time can be represented by an
> action. And this action is the origin of the mysterious effects of
> quantum coherent superimpositions and quantum interferences. The
> paper clarifies the role of actions by deriving equations for them
> that work equally well for quantum dynamics and for classical
> trajectories.
>
>
> Read more at:
> http://phys.org/news/2016-06-role-statistics-quantum-scale-microscale.html#jCp

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#583599

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-06-07 12:34 -0500
Message-ID<1juh4klau3pbw$.1sx00gwrpirqw$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#583586
On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:42:17 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

>> Read more at:
>> http://phys.org/news/2016-06-role-statistics-quantum-scale-microscale.html#jCp
> 

Usual incomplete, half-chewed half-thought out
blabber.

I think the reason a "law" like uncertainty principle
is stated at all is the shortcomings of present math
when used for study of a scale for which it's not
developed. Our math is to study macro-scale processes,
quantities, mwasurments, solutions, predictions, ...

I'd say develop the right math for nano-scale. Heck
you may find out there's neither "uncertainty
principle" nor quantization. These rules of thumbs
were developed to patch shortcomings of applying the
wrong math to that scale. Depart your ass from this
math and begin something new! 
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       intending to say "What is up with it"

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#583622

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-06-07 18:15 +0000
Message-ID<6jfj2d-3a4.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#583586
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> The role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale 
> behaviour

What an idiotic, babbling title.


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Jim Pennino

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#583626

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-06-07 13:25 -0500
Message-ID<nj73jh$1j0u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#583586
On 6/7/2016 11:42 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> The role of statistics in quantum scale observation explains microscale
> behaviour
>> http://phys.org/news/2016-06-role-statistics-quantum-scale-microscale.html
>>
>> http://cdn.phys.org/newman/csz/news/800/2016/theroleofsta.jpg
>
>
>
>> The simple reason why it is wrong to assume that microscopic
>> trajectories exist is because, in quantum mechanics, we can only
>> approximately determine position and speed.

wrong on its face. "microscopic" is 10X or more through a microscope.

Hue dosent apply until you get really really small, where microscopes do 
not work, even electron microbscopes.


>> This is due to a law of
>> quantum physics, called the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which
>> prevents the experimental observation of trajectories and other
>> continuous changes in time.

Wrong, provide context, boundries and limits your statemsnt is suppose 
to apply too.  at least google it.  10^-20 meters ? or what ?


<snip crap>

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