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Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2016-03-22 18:59 -0700
Last post2016-03-27 16:45 -0700
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  Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 18:59 -0700
    Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 21:06 -0500
      Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 19:16 -0700
      Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-22 22:07 -0500
        Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 20:18 -0700
          Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-23 05:37 +0000
            Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 09:14 -0700
              Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-23 18:05 +0000
                Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 22:24 -0700
        Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 05:41 -0700
      Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 13:45 -0700
        Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 16:28 -0700
          Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 17:00 -0700
    Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:14 -0700
    Re: Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 16:45 -0700

#564678 — Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 18:59 -0700
SubjectFive Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer
Message-ID<321b9211-9820-46f3-8689-b19f4e3bf0eb@googlegroups.com>
Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer

1) Why we should believe that moist air contains gaseous H2O if such has never been detected?

2) Why we should believe moist air is lighter than dry air if such has never been measured?

3) How does the undetected gaseous H2O somehow release 1,000 times the latent heat than has ever been measured in a laboratory upon condensing from a gaseous H2O that has never been detected?

4) How does this undetected latent heat push the atmosphere and, somehow, cause the emergence of distinct bands of flow--jetstreams--along the tropopause?

5) How does this explain the highly structured entities, tornadoes, that have been observed descending down from above (and not emerging from below as convection theory predicts)?

Our atmosphere is a big sponge for energy:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/cldqCr_vk6s/NsoPvTIvCAAJ

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#564679

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 21:06 -0500
Message-ID<2P-dnYBuv9S5Z2zLnZ2dnUU7-VudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#564678
On 3/22/16 8:59 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer
>
> 1) Why we should believe that moist air contains gaseous H2O if such has never been detected?

      Because it does -- empirically measured

>
> 2) Why we should believe moist air is lighter than dry air if such has never been measured?

      Because it does -- empirically measured.



   Oh Hell... why should I continue? Your misunderstandings are your
   losses, James, not mine.

-- 

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#564681

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 19:16 -0700
Message-ID<5e0387ba-1220-4a2b-850b-cdbbde173644@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564679
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 7:06:32 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 3/22/16 8:59 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer
> >
> > 1) Why we should believe that moist air contains gaseous H2O if such has never been detected?
> 
>       Because it does -- empirically measured
> 
> >
> > 2) Why we should believe moist air is lighter than dry air if such has never been measured?
> 
>       Because it does -- empirically measured.
> 
> 
> 
>    Oh Hell... why should I continue? Your misunderstandings are your
>    losses, James, not mine.

Just to be clear, Sam.  Isn't it also true that you believe that a 3% increase in a gas, CO2, that comprises 1/20th of 1% of the atmosphere is causing catastrophic global warming.  Right?

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#564684

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-03-22 22:07 -0500
Message-ID<nct1b0$3nu$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#564679
On 3/22/2016 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 3/22/16 8:59 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>> Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer
>>
>> 1) Why we should believe that moist air contains gaseous H2O if such
>> has never been detected?
>
>       Because it does -- empirically measured
>

>> 2) Why we should believe moist air is lighter than dry air if such has
>> never been measured?
>
>       Because it does -- empirically measured.
>
>
>
>    Oh Hell... why should I continue? Your misunderstandings are your
>    losses, James, not mine.
>

James is 100% internet Crank.
  he has been posting his stuff for years,
never any real data
avoids all questions
argues everything,
lies about common facts
just PLONK him,
he will not learn anything from anybody,
that what cranks do.

It is in  one of his responses this year, can't find it, on what Cranks do.

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#564689

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 20:18 -0700
Message-ID<34620f73-afe1-4b6d-a1af-ad2e46c062b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564684
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:08:28 PM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> On 3/22/2016 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > On 3/22/16 8:59 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> >> Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer
> >>
> >> 1) Why we should believe that moist air contains gaseous H2O if such
> >> has never been detected?
> >
> >       Because it does -- empirically measured
> >
> 
> >> 2) Why we should believe moist air is lighter than dry air if such has
> >> never been measured?
> >
> >       Because it does -- empirically measured.
> >
> >
> >
> >    Oh Hell... why should I continue? Your misunderstandings are your
> >    losses, James, not mine.
> >
> 
> James is 100% internet Crank.
>   he has been posting his stuff for years,
> never any real data
> avoids all questions
> argues everything,
> lies about common facts
> just PLONK him,
> he will not learn anything from anybody,
> that what cranks do.
> 
> It is in  one of his responses this year, can't find it, on what Cranks do.

Believers believe.  Scientist can explain why they believe.

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#564777

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-03-23 05:37 +0000
Message-ID<6lm9sc-6n6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#564689
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:

> Believers believe.  Scientist can explain why they believe.

While James McGinn babbles delusional nonsense about things routinely
measured and observed as having never been measured or observed.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#564831

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-23 09:14 -0700
Message-ID<85069827-13f7-426a-90a9-e2b6a077287d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564777
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 6:05:06 AM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Believers believe.  Scientist can explain why they believe.
> 
> While James McGinn babbles delusional nonsense about things routinely
> measured and observed as having never been measured or observed.

Since virtually all of our arguments are based on it, it must be a continouous source of frustration that the internet does not allow you to drop a link to your imagination.

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#564981

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-03-23 18:05 +0000
Message-ID<6h2bsc-ueb.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#564831
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 6:05:06 AM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Believers believe.  Scientist can explain why they believe.
>> 
>> While James McGinn babbles delusional nonsense about things routinely
>> measured and observed as having never been measured or observed.
> 
> Since virtually all of our arguments are based on it, it must be a
> continouous source of frustration that the internet does not allow
> you to drop a link to your imagination.

James McGinn babbles delusional nonsense about Internet links not existing
when he has been spoon fed numerous Internet links as well as text book
references.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#565010

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-23 22:24 -0700
Message-ID<62474860-716a-494b-b248-f7c57a2da02f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564981
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 8:05:41 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> James McGinn babbles delusional nonsense about Internet links not existing
> when he has been spoon fed numerous Internet links as well as text book
> references.

It's regrettable the internet doesn't allow you to drop a link to your imagination so that I could see what you think you see.

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#565406

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-25 05:41 -0700
Message-ID<4a23e90e-410e-4ec4-9841-20b2c041827d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564684
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:08:28 PM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> On 3/22/2016 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > On 3/22/16 8:59 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> >> Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer
> >>
> >> 1) Why we should believe that moist air contains gaseous H2O if such
> >> has never been detected?
> >
> >       Because it does -- empirically measured
> >
> 
> >> 2) Why we should believe moist air is lighter than dry air if such has
> >> never been measured?
> >
> >       Because it does -- empirically measured.
> >
> >
> >
> >    Oh Hell... why should I continue? Your misunderstandings are your
> >    losses, James, not mine.
> >
> 
> James is 100% internet Crank.
>   he has been posting his stuff for years,
> never any real data
> avoids all questions
> argues everything,
> lies about common facts
> just PLONK him,
> he will not learn anything from anybody,
> that what cranks do.
> 
> It is in  one of his responses this year, can't find it, on what Cranks do.

It's great to see that Sergio has found a subject he is interested in.

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#568396

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-06 13:45 -0700
Message-ID<368bb321-7444-453c-88cd-4c19aa4f569d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564679
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 7:06:32 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 3/22/16 8:59 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer
> >
> > 1) Why we should believe that moist air contains gaseous H2O if such has never been detected?
> 
>       Because it does -- empirically measured

Reference?

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#568422

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-06 16:28 -0700
Message-ID<f8b3ae5a-344d-4693-8efb-a30d51c7c5f8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#568396
a)
hygrometer measures relative humidty,
which is convereted to absolute humidity mod temperature;
when there are visible drops in the air,
it is already a hundred per cent

> Reference?

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#568433

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-06 17:00 -0700
Message-ID<57bbf0cc-c76b-47e6-8309-330f12b9f184@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#568422
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 4:28:56 PM UTC-7, noTthaTguY wrote:
> a)
> hygrometer measures relative humidty,
> which is convereted to absolute humidity mod temperature;
> when there are visible drops in the air,
> it is already a hundred per cent
> 
> > Reference?

Now address the issue.  What does this prove/demonstrate.  Be explicit.  Do research. Type in complete sentences with proper punctuation.

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#564779

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-23 06:14 -0700
Message-ID<0d71816d-66c5-4a1d-8b66-59252bc64de4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564678
Dne středa 23. března 2016 2:59:34 UTC+1 James McGinn napsal(a):

> Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer...

.. pointing James to basic knowledge of physics.

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#566022

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-27 16:45 -0700
Message-ID<f49cc432-9745-42e6-b63d-326f5f887023@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564678
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 6:59:34 PM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote:
> Five Questions That All Meteorologists Refuse to Answer
> 
> 
1) Why we should believe that moist air contains gaseous H2O if such has never been detected?
> 
> 
2) Why we should believe moist air is lighter than dry air if such has never been measured?
> 
> 
3) How does the undetected gaseous H2O somehow release 1,000 times the latent heat than has ever been measured in a laboratory upon condensing from a gaseous H2O that has never been detected?
> 
> 
4) How does this undetected latent heat push the atmosphere and, somehow, cause the emergence of distinct bands of flow--jetstreams--along the tropopause?
> 
> 
5) How does this explain the highly structured entities, tornadoes, that have been observed descending down from above (and not emerging from below as convection theory predicts)?
> 
> 
Our atmosphere is a big sponge for energy:
> 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/cldqCr_vk6s/NsoPvTIvCAAJ

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