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Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars.

Started by"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com>
First post2017-07-03 08:31 -0400
Last post2017-07-26 14:08 -0400
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  Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-03 08:31 -0400
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-07-03 09:04 -0400
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 06:31 -0700
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-03 08:37 -0500
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-06 15:21 -0400
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 13:14 -0700
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 08:00 -0700
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-07 15:34 -0400
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 14:03 -0700
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-07 17:22 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 15:19 -0700
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 17:01 -0700
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-09 12:49 -0400
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-09 23:26 -0500
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 20:04 -0500
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 07:32 -0700
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-10 12:21 -0500
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-10 17:35 +0000
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-10 16:10 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-10 17:40 -0400
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-10 17:22 -0500
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-10 19:49 -0400
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2017-07-13 20:17 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-13 21:42 +0000
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-13 20:53 -0400
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 02:05 +0000
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:25 -0700
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 17:04 +0000
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-03 14:04 -0400
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 18:28 +0000
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-03 16:14 -0400
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 20:57 +0000
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 16:14 -0700
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 00:45 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 20:11 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 04:55 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 02:29 -0700
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 06:49 +0100
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:02 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-07-04 22:59 -0400
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 04:51 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-04 21:33 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 07:16 +0100
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 16:47 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 11:08 -0700
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-05 21:02 -0400
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 19:12 -0700
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-05 22:16 -0400
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 23:30 -0700
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:35 +0100
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 10:05 -0700
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:20 -0400
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-07 08:03 -0500
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:19 -0400
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-06 13:09 -0500
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 23:05 -0700
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 10:52 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 18:07 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-05 14:21 -0500
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 19:34 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 15:32 -0700
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 23:00 +0000
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 10:12 -0700
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-06 13:15 -0500
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 06:20 -0700
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-07 09:39 -0500
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 08:11 -0700
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-07 14:13 -0500
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 20:04 +0000
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-04 20:08 -0600
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-04 09:11 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-07-04 11:47 -0400
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:19 +0000
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-07-04 23:04 -0400
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 04:56 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 23:16 -0700
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:12 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 07:20 +0100
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 16:54 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-05 18:42 -0400
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 23:07 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:30 +0100
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-06 06:35 -0400
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 16:34 +0000
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:25 -0400
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-07 04:56 +0000
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 02:09 -0700
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-07 20:18 -0400
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 06:19 +0100
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-07 17:13 +0000
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 06:49 +0100
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-08 17:13 +0000
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 07:12 +0100
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-09 17:44 +0000
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 12:48 -0700
                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-09 23:27 -0500
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 07:11 +0100
                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-10 16:30 +0000
                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 06:49 +0100
                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 17:47 +0000
                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 13:15 -0700
                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 16:27 -0400
                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 14:46 -0700
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 18:36 -0400
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 18:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 21:31 -0400
                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 22:12 +0000
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2017-07-11 19:01 -0400
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 02:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 22:44 -0700
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-12 10:24 -0400
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 20:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:17 -0700
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:42 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 16:11 -0700
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 18:21 -0700
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-12 07:28 -0400
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 05:10 -0700
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:45 +0000
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-12 18:39 -0500
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 21:29 -0700
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-13 20:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:22 -0700
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-14 11:55 -0500
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 21:01 -0400
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 02:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 22:56 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 05:03 +0000
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:50 -0400
                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 23:49 +0000
                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 23:04 -0400
                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 05:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 08:51 -0400
                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 17:23 +0000
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 18:08 -0400
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 02:02 +0000
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 12:53 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-17 13:04 -0500
                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 09:51 -0400
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-16 11:04 -0500
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 17:55 +0000
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 16:15 -0400
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 20:26 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 15:32 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:08 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-16 15:21 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 17:00 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-17 09:06 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-17 20:23 -0400
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 15:27 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 17:39 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-17 09:46 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 13:04 -0500
                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 07:04 +0100
                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:48 +0000
                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 06:50 +0100
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-13 17:29 +0000
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 05:51 +0100
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 05:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 06:36 +0100
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-15 00:27 -0600
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 08:52 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 06:40 +0100
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-16 16:02 -0400
                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 06:02 +0100
                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-17 20:31 -0400
                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-18 06:32 +0100
                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-18 21:10 -0400
                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 05:08 +0100
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-19 20:17 -0400
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-20 01:11 +0000
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 06:23 +0100
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 03:35 -0700
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 05:56 +0100
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-20 10:18 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-07-20 11:34 -0400
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#639832

FromSегg io <innvalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-07-10 17:22 -0500
Message-ID<ok0uo1$h60$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#639807
On 7/10/2017 4:40 PM, Robert Clark wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 9:32 AM, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:04:04 PM UTC-4, Lofty Goat wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:00:04 -0700 (PDT), Edward Prochak
>>>> <edprochak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... electric motors are much more complex than combustion motors....
>>>>
>>>> What measure of complexity are you using?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Goat
>>>
>>> This is in the context of 3-d printing. The mixture of materials
>>> makes electric motors much more complex than combustion engines.
>>> combustion engines are all metal.
>>> electric motors have metal and insulating material.
>>> That's the measure.
>>> ed
>>>
>>
>> you have low temp melting materials, adjacent to high temp melting 
>> materials.
>>
>> How do you print an insulated length of round wire from a normal 
>> direction to its axis ?  assume copper and teflon.
>>
>> ---
> 
> The possibility of 3D-printing insulated wiring could be tested by first 
> testing in plastics. Plastic 3D-printing does have the capability of 
> printing with different materials side by side:
> 
> How It's Used - Multi-Materials with PolyJet.
> http://www.stratasys.com/solutions/additive-manufacturing/multi-material-3d-printing 
> 
> 
> The key point that needs to be tested is if there could be 3D-printed 
> multiple coils of a "wire" with one material inside the emulating the 
> copper with a different material on the outside emulating the insulation.
> 
> 
>   Bob Clark
> 

  a 3D printing rule, you can only print on something with the same or 
higher melting point.

can't print a high melting point material onto a low melting point material.

that is a major limitation

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#639861

From"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com>
Date2017-07-10 19:49 -0400
Message-ID<ok13j0$1vm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#639832
On 7/10/2017 4:40 PM, Robert Clark wrote:
>> On 7/10/2017 9:32 AM, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:04:04 PM UTC-4, Lofty Goat wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:00:04 -0700 (PDT), Edward Prochak
>>>>> <edprochak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... electric motors are much more complex than combustion motors....
>>>>>
>>>>> What measure of complexity are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Goat
>>>>
>>>> This is in the context of 3-d printing. The mixture of materials
>>>> makes electric motors much more complex than combustion engines.
>>>> combustion engines are all metal.
>>>> electric motors have metal and insulating material.
>>>> That's the measure.
>>>> ed
>>>>
>>>
>>> you have low temp melting materials, adjacent to high temp melting 
>>> materials.
>>>
>>> How do you print an insulated length of round wire from a normal 
>>> direction to its axis ?  assume copper and teflon.
>>>
>>> ---
>>
>> The possibility of 3D-printing insulated wiring could be tested by first 
>> testing in plastics. Plastic 3D-printing does have the capability of 
>> printing with different materials side by side:
>>
>> How It's Used - Multi-Materials with PolyJet.
>> http://www.stratasys.com/solutions/additive-manufacturing/multi-material-3d-printing 
>> The key point that needs to be tested is if there could be 3D-printed 
>> multiple coils of a "wire" with one material inside the emulating the 
>> copper with a different material on the outside emulating the insulation.
>>
>>
>>   Bob Clark
>>
>
>  a 3D printing rule, you can only print on something with the same or 
> higher melting point.
>
>can't print a high melting point material onto a low melting point 
>material.
>
>that is a major limitation
>
>
>---

Could lay down the  metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it, 
then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as silicone 
rubber have a melting point of 300 C. Another possibility, is that in order 
for a material to melt, not only does the temperature have to reach the 
melting point but a quantity of heat called the "heat of fusion" has to be 
supplied to it for it to undergo the phase change from solid to liquid. For 
instance what's done with high performance rocket engines such as the 
SSME's, which operate above their melting point, is that the heat reaching 
the combustion chamber walls is constantly drawn away by cold fuel 
circulating around the walls, so this heat of fusion is not delivered to the 
walls.

Still another possibility is a recent discovery of high temperature nanotube 
rubber:

Nanotube rubber stays stretchy at extreme temperatures.
Dec 2, 2010
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/dec/02/nanotube-rubber-stays-stretchy-at-extreme-temperatures


  Bob Clark


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 
21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital 
launchers, to 'flying cars'.
This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it:

Nanotech: from air to space.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 

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#640360

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2017-07-13 20:17 +0000
Message-ID<ok8kgn$2lk$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de>
In reply to#639861
Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> schrieb:
> Some types of insulation such as silicone 
> rubber have a melting point of 300 C.

Do you know what a rubber is?  Apparently not.

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#640373

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-13 21:42 +0000
Message-ID<g36l3e-n1b.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#639861
In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Could lay down the  metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it, 
> then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as silicone 
> rubber have a melting point of 300 C.

Nope, silicone rubber once cured has no melting point. 300 C is the maximum
temperature it can withstand before permanetly degrading. Silicone rubbers
in general have poor resistance to steam, super heated water, oils, fuels
and solvents.

Silicone rubbers would be impractical to 3D print due the the chemistry.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#640391

From"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com>
Date2017-07-13 20:53 -0400
Message-ID<ok94ev$c2a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#640373
>
>> Could lay down the  metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it,
>> then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as 
>> silicone
>> rubber have a melting point of 300 C.
>
>Nope, silicone rubber once cured has no melting point. 300 C is the maximum
>temperature it can withstand before permanetly degrading. Silicone rubbers
>in general have poor resistance to steam, super heated water, oils, fuels
>and solvents.
>
>Silicone rubbers would be impractical to 3D print due the the chemistry.
>
>

In any case there are ceramic-based insulators that can withstand in the 
range of 500C

http://www.ceramawire.com/technical-information.shtml

  Bob Clark

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize
21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital
launchers, to 'flying cars'.
This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it:

Nanotech: from air to space.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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#640407

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-14 02:05 +0000
Message-ID<6gll3e-bmc.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#640391
In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>>> Could lay down the  metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it,
>>> then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as 
>>> silicone
>>> rubber have a melting point of 300 C.
>>
>>Nope, silicone rubber once cured has no melting point. 300 C is the maximum
>>temperature it can withstand before permanetly degrading. Silicone rubbers
>>in general have poor resistance to steam, super heated water, oils, fuels
>>and solvents.
>>
>>Silicone rubbers would be impractical to 3D print due the the chemistry.
>>
>>
> 
> In any case there are ceramic-based insulators that can withstand in the 
> range of 500C
> 
> http://www.ceramawire.com/technical-information.shtml
> 
>  Bob Clark

And are just as impractical to 3D print.

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#640427

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-13 23:25 -0700
Message-ID<8togmch4q6ar21i7i0s89kkojm0tslh88t@4ax.com>
In reply to#640407
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>> Could lay down the  metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it,
>>>> then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as 
>>>> silicone
>>>> rubber have a melting point of 300 C.
>>>
>>>Nope, silicone rubber once cured has no melting point. 300 C is the maximum
>>>temperature it can withstand before permanetly degrading. Silicone rubbers
>>>in general have poor resistance to steam, super heated water, oils, fuels
>>>and solvents.
>>>
>>>Silicone rubbers would be impractical to 3D print due the the chemistry.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> In any case there are ceramic-based insulators that can withstand in the 
>> range of 500C
>> 
>> http://www.ceramawire.com/technical-information.shtml
>> 
>
>And are just as impractical to 3D print.
>

Well, except that there are outfits that are 3-D printing ceramics
NOW, so perhaps not so impractical after all.


-- 
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 territory."
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#638620

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-03 17:04 +0000
Message-ID<b2aq2e-5d6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#638597
In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote:
> An article from 2015:
> 
> 3-D-printed car could hit streets next year. Chris Woodyard, USA TODAY 4:48 
> p.m. EST November 12, 2015
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/11/10/3d-printed-car-local-motors-swim/75530830/
> 
> Several companies have come out with what they call "3D-printed" cars, but 
> none have 3D-printed the most important part, the engine.
> 
> This would be difficult to do with an internal combustion engine, with its 
> high temperatures, multiple moving parts, and high tolerances.
> 
> But it shouldn't be too difficult with an electric engine. In fact 
> considering there are now miniature 3D-printers on the market for the home, 
> an amateur could be the first to produce an entire, scale-size, 3D-printed 
> car.
> And then it could be scaled up to produce a full-size, working, fully 
> 3D-printed automobile.
> 
> This would revolutionize the industry, obviously.
> 
> The two most difficult parts would be the engine and the transmission.
> 
> This video shows how you can make your own simple electric motor:
> 
> How to Make an Electric Motor at Home - YouTube.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p2QTE26VOA
> 
> Looking at the steps in the video, it appears they could all be accomplished 
> by 3D-printing.
> 
> 
>  Bob Clark
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 
> 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital 
> launchers, to 'flying cars'.
> This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it:
> 
> Nanotech: from air to space.
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Arm waving nonsense.

You need multiple 3D printers if you need to print with multiple materials.

Consumer 3D printers print small parts from cheap plastic and cost hundreds
of dollars.

Industrial 3D printers that print large parts with metals cost hundreds of
thousands of dollars and the printing material costs more than raw metal
stock.

3D printing is advantageous for parts with complex shapes that are difficult
or impossible to make with other techniques but is disadvantageous for
most parts that ARE manufacturable with conventional techniques as they
can be made faster and cheaper.

3D printing makes PARTS that still need to be assembled.

3D printing an electric motor is just silly.

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#638630

FromJeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com>
Date2017-07-03 14:04 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.33c4512ea53f49f9989982@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#638620
In article <b2aq2e-5d6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
says...
> Arm waving nonsense.
> 
> You need multiple 3D printers if you need to print with multiple materials.
> 
> Consumer 3D printers print small parts from cheap plastic and cost hundreds
> of dollars.
> 
> Industrial 3D printers that print large parts with metals cost hundreds of
> thousands of dollars and the printing material costs more than raw metal
> stock.
> 
> 3D printing is advantageous for parts with complex shapes that are difficult
> or impossible to make with other techniques but is disadvantageous for
> most parts that ARE manufacturable with conventional techniques as they
> can be made faster and cheaper.
> 
> 3D printing makes PARTS that still need to be assembled.
> 
> 3D printing an electric motor is just silly.
> 

I'm generally in agreement with all of the above.  That motor which was 
3D printed is a toy.  That toy motor is far simpler than a stepper 
motor, so any thought of 3D printers printing other 3D printers is just 
a fantasy at this point.  

Today's "state of the art" of 3D printing does not make it a panacea for 
manufacturing.  Furthermore, 3D printing with locally produced (non-
earth) materials is decades away.  

But progress is being made in the field.  GE is working on producing a 
3D printer capable of printing 1 meter x 1 meter x 1 meter parts.  This 
is coming from its aircraft engine division.  3D printing is a very hot 
topic these days.  

Jeff
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These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, 
employer, or any organization that I am a member of.

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#638639

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-03 18:28 +0000
Message-ID<mueq2e-6t6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#638630
In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <b2aq2e-5d6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
> says...
>> Arm waving nonsense.
>> 
>> You need multiple 3D printers if you need to print with multiple materials.
>> 
>> Consumer 3D printers print small parts from cheap plastic and cost hundreds
>> of dollars.
>> 
>> Industrial 3D printers that print large parts with metals cost hundreds of
>> thousands of dollars and the printing material costs more than raw metal
>> stock.
>> 
>> 3D printing is advantageous for parts with complex shapes that are difficult
>> or impossible to make with other techniques but is disadvantageous for
>> most parts that ARE manufacturable with conventional techniques as they
>> can be made faster and cheaper.
>> 
>> 3D printing makes PARTS that still need to be assembled.
>> 
>> 3D printing an electric motor is just silly.
>> 
> 
> I'm generally in agreement with all of the above.  That motor which was 
> 3D printed is a toy.  That toy motor is far simpler than a stepper 
> motor, so any thought of 3D printers printing other 3D printers is just 
> a fantasy at this point.  
> 
> Today's "state of the art" of 3D printing does not make it a panacea for 
> manufacturing.  Furthermore, 3D printing with locally produced (non-
> earth) materials is decades away.  

3D printing requires special raw stock manufactured just for 3D printing
no matter what the print material is.

3D printing is slow and expensive compared to any other method of making
parts so only become economical if the part in question is so complex that
3D printing it is cheaper than any other method.

The cost and speed of 3D printing will obviously never match that of
stamping out sheet metal, casting, or NC machining.

> But progress is being made in the field.  GE is working on producing a 
> 3D printer capable of printing 1 meter x 1 meter x 1 meter parts.  This 
> is coming from its aircraft engine division.  3D printing is a very hot 
> topic these days.  

Yes, for very complex parts that would otherwise have to be made in
pieces then somehow assempled.

> 
> Jeff

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#638667

FromJeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com>
Date2017-07-03 16:14 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.33c46fcdc289aa9b989984@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#638639
In article <mueq2e-6t6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
says...
> 3D printing requires special raw stock manufactured just for 3D printing
> no matter what the print material is.
> 
> 3D printing is slow and expensive compared to any other method of making
> parts so only become economical if the part in question is so complex that
> 3D printing it is cheaper than any other method.

Actually if the 3D printed part replaces many other parts (e.g. 
SuperDraco engines) then it's faster to print than it is to manufacture 
and assemble all those other parts.  But that does fall under your "so 
complex" exception because in that case it is cheaper to print than try 
to use other manufacturing techniques.  

In aerospace, think things like liquid fueled rocket engine combustion 
chambers with lots of tiny internal cooling passages.  Those are a 
p.i.t.a. to make using conventional manufacturing techniques, but a 
breeze to 3D print.

> The cost and speed of 3D printing will obviously never match that of
> stamping out sheet metal, casting, or NC machining.

For "trivial" parts, that is true.  I installed a new garage door at 
home a few weeks ago.  Lots of stamped sheet metal parts there, even the 
hinges. 

> > But progress is being made in the field.  GE is working on producing a 
> > 3D printer capable of printing 1 meter x 1 meter x 1 meter parts.  This 
> > is coming from its aircraft engine division.  3D printing is a very hot 
> > topic these days.  
> 
> Yes, for very complex parts that would otherwise have to be made in
> pieces then somehow assempled.
 
Exactly.

Also, the other option that 3D printing opens up is more shape optimized 
parts.  These things are optimized so that "useless" mass is simply gone 
from the design.  They tend to look "organic" rather than "machined" due 
to their complex shapes.  I've heard this called "light-weighting" parts 
from management types. 

Jeff 
-- 
All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone.  
These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, 
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#638675

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-03 20:57 +0000
Message-ID<slnq2e-pn7.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#638667
In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <mueq2e-6t6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
> says...
>> 3D printing requires special raw stock manufactured just for 3D printing
>> no matter what the print material is.
>> 
>> 3D printing is slow and expensive compared to any other method of making
>> parts so only become economical if the part in question is so complex that
>> 3D printing it is cheaper than any other method.
> 
> Actually if the 3D printed part replaces many other parts (e.g. 
> SuperDraco engines) then it's faster to print than it is to manufacture 
> and assemble all those other parts.  But that does fall under your "so 
> complex" exception because in that case it is cheaper to print than try 
> to use other manufacturing techniques.  
> 
> In aerospace, think things like liquid fueled rocket engine combustion 
> chambers with lots of tiny internal cooling passages.  Those are a 
> p.i.t.a. to make using conventional manufacturing techniques, but a 
> breeze to 3D print.

And the total market for such things is a tiny fraction of all things
manufactured, or even of all 4 slice toasters manufactured.

>> The cost and speed of 3D printing will obviously never match that of
>> stamping out sheet metal, casting, or NC machining.
> 
> For "trivial" parts, that is true.  I installed a new garage door at 
> home a few weeks ago.  Lots of stamped sheet metal parts there, even the 
> hinges. 

My estimate is that for all things manufactured parts that can be made
cheaper and faster by conventional means amount to about 99.99%.

>> > But progress is being made in the field.  GE is working on producing a 
>> > 3D printer capable of printing 1 meter x 1 meter x 1 meter parts.  This 
>> > is coming from its aircraft engine division.  3D printing is a very hot 
>> > topic these days.  
>> 
>> Yes, for very complex parts that would otherwise have to be made in
>> pieces then somehow assempled.
>  
> Exactly.
> 
> Also, the other option that 3D printing opens up is more shape optimized 
> parts.  These things are optimized so that "useless" mass is simply gone 
> from the design.  They tend to look "organic" rather than "machined" due 
> to their complex shapes.  I've heard this called "light-weighting" parts 
> from management types. 

And about the only place where weight matters that much is in things
that fly and in that case useless mass is already gone from the design
without the expense of 3D printing.

Have you ever looked at the interior structures of an aircraft?

3D printing is, and always will be, a niche manufacturing method.

Handy at times, but certainly not a world changer.


> Jeff 

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Jim Pennino

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#638696

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-03 16:14 -0700
Message-ID<vrjllcp6sjb0o4qqdqg99okuv6a5s5cau5@4ax.com>
In reply to#638675
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>
>My estimate is that for all things manufactured parts that can be made
>cheaper and faster by conventional means amount to about 99.99%.
>

And the world will only need 3 computers.  Usual Chimp wisdom.

>
>And about the only place where weight matters that much is in things
>that fly and in that case useless mass is already gone from the design
>without the expense of 3D printing.
>

That's why we use carbon fiber on cars; because weight doesn't matter.


-- 
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 territory."
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#638709

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-04 00:45 +0000
Message-ID<j25r2e-u29.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#638696
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>
>>My estimate is that for all things manufactured parts that can be made
>>cheaper and faster by conventional means amount to about 99.99%.
>>
> 
> And the world will only need 3 computers.  Usual Chimp wisdom.

Kiss my ass Red Herring McTroll.

>>And about the only place where weight matters that much is in things
>>that fly and in that case useless mass is already gone from the design
>>without the expense of 3D printing.
>>
> 
> That's why we use carbon fiber on cars; because weight doesn't matter.
 
"Where's the Affordable Carbon Fiber Automobile?"

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/539971/wheres-the-affordable-carbon-fiber-automobile/

"While the cost of carbon fiber materials and production has declined
in recent decades, it remains prohibitive for anything but limited
applications in niche vehicles."

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#638722

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-03 20:11 -0700
Message-ID<8l1mlctof86fsaplam9gvreedegbtds3tk@4ax.com>
In reply to#638709
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>My estimate is that for all things manufactured parts that can be made
>>>cheaper and faster by conventional means amount to about 99.99%.
>>>
>> 
>> And the world will only need 3 computers.  Usual Chimp wisdom.
>
>Kiss my ass Red Herring McTroll.
>

You're all ass, Chimp.

>>>And about the only place where weight matters that much is in things
>>>that fly and in that case useless mass is already gone from the design
>>>without the expense of 3D printing.
>>>
>> 
>> That's why we use carbon fiber on cars; because weight doesn't matter.
> 
>"Where's the Affordable Carbon Fiber Automobile?"
>

Oh, it's not just "things that fly" anymore.  Now it's 'affordable'.
My car has carbon fibre parts.  I thought it was pretty affordable.

>
>https://www.technologyreview.com/s/539971/wheres-the-affordable-carbon-fiber-automobile/
>
>"While the cost of carbon fiber materials and production has declined
>in recent decades, it remains prohibitive for anything but limited
>applications in niche vehicles."
>

That would, according to the Chimp's prior statements, no doubt be the
flying cars, since flying vehicles are the only ones where weight
matters that much (according to him).


-- 
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#638729

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-04 04:55 +0000
Message-ID<imjr2e-0ka.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#638722
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>My estimate is that for all things manufactured parts that can be made
>>>>cheaper and faster by conventional means amount to about 99.99%.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> And the world will only need 3 computers.  Usual Chimp wisdom.
>>
>>Kiss my ass Red Herring McTroll.
>>
> 
> You're all ass, Chimp.

You're all nasty troll.

*PLONK*


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#638739

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-04 02:29 -0700
Message-ID<qtnmlcloo5lh0lnnl9u2ll3chd0kf86q0i@4ax.com>
In reply to#638729
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>My estimate is that for all things manufactured parts that can be made
>>>>>cheaper and faster by conventional means amount to about 99.99%.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> And the world will only need 3 computers.  Usual Chimp wisdom.
>>>
>>>Kiss my ass Red Herring McTroll.
>>>
>> 
>> You're all ass, Chimp.
>>
>
>You're all nasty troll.
>
>*PLONK*
>

Let me put things in terms you can understand, Chimp.
OoooOOOOooooOOOOoooOO.

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What you do 
When it counts.

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#638731

FromDavid Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-04 06:49 +0100
Message-ID<cpednfz5OtPzscbEnZ2dnUU78dudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#638675
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> And about the only place where weight matters that much is in things
> that fly and in that case useless mass is already gone from the design
> without the expense of 3D printing.
>
> Have you ever looked at the interior structures of an aircraft?
>
> 3D printing is, and always will be, a niche manufacturing method.

"Nobody needs more than 640K"

I don't really think it's sensible to say "never" wrt technology - you're 
judging a very immature technology

The biggest problem wrt printing vehicles will, I suspect, be the legislation 
governing safety.

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#638784

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-04 18:02 +0000
Message-ID<7r1t2e-erf.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#638731
In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> And about the only place where weight matters that much is in things
>> that fly and in that case useless mass is already gone from the design
>> without the expense of 3D printing.
>>
>> Have you ever looked at the interior structures of an aircraft?
>>
>> 3D printing is, and always will be, a niche manufacturing method.
> 
> "Nobody needs more than 640K"
> 
> I don't really think it's sensible to say "never" wrt technology - you're 
> judging a very immature technology
> 
> The biggest problem wrt printing vehicles will, I suspect, be the legislation 
> governing safety.

Nope, economics.

It takes a fraction of a second to stamp out a sheet metal automobile body
part out of standard sheet metal stock.

I fail to understand why geeks think 3D printing is the ultimate answer
to manufacturing when it is in fact slow and expensive.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#638863

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2017-07-04 22:59 -0400
Message-ID<595c55f7$0$56145$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#638784
On 2017-07-04 14:02, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> Nope, economics.
> 
> It takes a fraction of a second to stamp out a sheet metal automobile body
> part out of standard sheet metal stock.

But for prototyping, 3D printing is amazing tech even if when mass
production starts, it uses old fashioned manufacturing for large volumes.

And in low production scenarios (such as rockets), 3D printing could
become very interesting. However, it does compete against CAD/CAM
machinery that can do some types of parts more efficiently than 3D print.

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