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The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2015-09-13 16:48 -0500
Last post2015-09-13 21:24 -0700
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  The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 16:48 -0500
    Re: The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 15:34 -0700
    Re: The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-13 23:46 +0000
      Re: The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 18:56 -0500
        Re: The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-14 00:33 +0000
          Re: The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 20:02 -0500
            Re: The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-14 02:20 +0000
    Re: The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-09-13 21:24 -0700

#520817 — The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-13 16:48 -0500
SubjectThe Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin
Message-ID<ZIOdnUjaFtfZcmjInZ2dnUU7-VmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin
> http://www.wired.com/2015/09/mind-bending-physics-tennis-balls-spin/

> It’s fairly easy to figure out what spin does: It wins tennis
> matches. How it works—or rather, how it’s created—on the other hand,
> is about as complicated a physics question you can set about solving
> without invoking subatomic particles. The variables include squishy
> balls, stiff racquets, taut strings, thrusting knees, twisting hips,
> swinging shoulders, and rotating elbows. But all those mechanics are
> made possible by a pair of equipment innovations.
>
> In order to generate spin, you have to brush your racquet up across
> the ball, rather than strike it dead on. The motion looks kind of
> like you are giving the ball a weird high five. Starting low, with
> the racquet at your waist, you bring it up and forward, twisting with
> your hips and elbow so the racquet’s head finishes high above your
> opposite shoulder.
>
> And that’s not all. “For a good topspin, you have to tilt the racquet
> at a good angle, too,” says Crawford Lindsey, head tester at the
> Tennis Warehouse University, a tennis testing website (with some
> seriously awesome studies). “You don’t present much face to the ball,
> because everything is slanted.”
>

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#520829

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-13 15:34 -0700
Message-ID<06dab475-871c-4ddb-8e2f-5fed68139886@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#520817
On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 2:48:55 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin
> > http://www.wired.com/2015/09/mind-bending-physics-tennis-balls-spin/
> 
> > It's fairly easy to figure out what spin does: It wins tennis
> > matches. How it works--or rather, how it's created--on the other hand,
> > is about as complicated a physics question you can set about solving
> > without invoking subatomic particles. The variables include squishy
> > balls, stiff racquets, taut strings, thrusting knees, twisting hips,
> > swinging shoulders, and rotating elbows. But all those mechanics are
> > made possible by a pair of equipment innovations.
> >
> > In order to generate spin, you have to brush your racquet up across
> > the ball, rather than strike it dead on. The motion looks kind of
> > like you are giving the ball a weird high five. Starting low, with
> > the racquet at your waist, you bring it up and forward, twisting with
> > your hips and elbow so the racquet's head finishes high above your
> > opposite shoulder.
> >
> > And that's not all. "For a good topspin, you have to tilt the racquet
> > at a good angle, too," says Crawford Lindsey, head tester at the
> > Tennis Warehouse University, a tennis testing website (with some
> > seriously awesome studies). "You don't present much face to the ball,
> > because everything is slanted."
> >
> 
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Ping Pong serve is the best way to see that spin is in.The Chinese here in Fullerton are big on Ping Pong.I know I play them and lose.TreBert PS My friend Hoo can beat anyone you know.TreBert

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#520866

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-13 23:46 +0000
Message-ID<6fehcc-afo.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#520817
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin

How is tennis ball spin different and "Mind-Bending" when compared
to baseball spin, golf ball spin, cannon ball spin, or any other
ball's spin, spamming shit head?

Are tennis balls magic, spamming shit head?


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#520870

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-13 18:56 -0500
Message-ID<ZIOdnUTaFtepkGvInZ2dnUU7-VkAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#520866
On 9/13/15 6:46 PM, nasty, mean, name-calling jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
wrote:
> Are tennis balls magic, spamming shit head?


   Now now, jimp, it sounds to me like you are still having another
   bad weekend. There is something you can do about that in your area:
   Try Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   Someday, you will thank me, jimp.

   The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin
 > http://www.wired.com/2015/09/mind-bending-physics-tennis-balls-spin/

 > It’s fairly easy to figure out what spin does: It wins tennis
 > matches. How it works—or rather, how it’s created—on the other hand,
 > is about as complicated a physics question you can set about solving
 > without invoking subatomic particles. The variables include squishy
 > balls, stiff racquets, taut strings, thrusting knees, twisting hips,
 > swinging shoulders, and rotating elbows. But all those mechanics are
 > made possible by a pair of equipment innovations.
 >
 > In order to generate spin, you have to brush your racquet up across
 > the ball, rather than strike it dead on. The motion looks kind of
 > like you are giving the ball a weird high five. Starting low, with
 > the racquet at your waist, you bring it up and forward, twisting with
 > your hips and elbow so the racquet’s head finishes high above your
 > opposite shoulder.
 >
 > And that’s not all. “For a good topspin, you have to tilt the racquet
 > at a good angle, too,” says Crawford Lindsey, head tester at the
 > Tennis Warehouse University, a tennis testing website (with some
 > seriously awesome studies). “You don’t present much face to the ball,
 > because everything is slanted.”
 >


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#520888

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-14 00:33 +0000
Message-ID<u6hhcc-h2p.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#520870
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/13/15 6:46 PM, nasty, mean, name-calling jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
> wrote:
>> Are tennis balls magic, spamming shit head?
> 
> 
>   Now now, jimp, it sounds to me like

Are tennis balls magic, spamming shit head?

What is the magic quality of tennis balls that separates them from
baseballs, ping-pong ball, golf balls, or any other ball that
produces "Mind-Bending Physics", spamming shit head?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#520904

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-13 20:02 -0500
Message-ID<ZIOdnXraFtc0gWvInZ2dnUU7-VmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#520888
On 9/13/15 7:33 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> What is the magic quality of tennis balls that separates them from
> baseballs, ping-pong ball, golf balls, or any other ball that
> produces "Mind-Bending Physics", spamming shit head?

   Considerable, jimp -- read the linked article. Oh, and BTW,
   Try Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   Someday, you will thank me, jimp.

   The Mind-Bending Physics of a Tennis Ball's Spin
 > http://www.wired.com/2015/09/mind-bending-physics-tennis-balls-spin/

 > It’s fairly easy to figure out what spin does: It wins tennis
 > matches. How it works—or rather, how it’s created—on the other hand,
 > is about as complicated a physics question you can set about solving
 > without invoking subatomic particles. The variables include squishy
 > balls, stiff racquets, taut strings, thrusting knees, twisting hips,
 > swinging shoulders, and rotating elbows. But all those mechanics are
 > made possible by a pair of equipment innovations.
 >
 > In order to generate spin, you have to brush your racquet up across
 > the ball, rather than strike it dead on. The motion looks kind of
 > like you are giving the ball a weird high five. Starting low, with
 > the racquet at your waist, you bring it up and forward, twisting with
 > your hips and elbow so the racquet’s head finishes high above your
 > opposite shoulder.
 >
 > And that’s not all. “For a good topspin, you have to tilt the racquet
 > at a good angle, too,” says Crawford Lindsey, head tester at the
 > Tennis Warehouse University, a tennis testing website (with some
 > seriously awesome studies). “You don’t present much face to the ball,
 > because everything is slanted.”
 >



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#520924

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-14 02:20 +0000
Message-ID<ognhcc-lop.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#520904
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/13/15 7:33 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> What is the magic quality of tennis balls that separates them from
>> baseballs, ping-pong ball, golf balls, or any other ball that
>> produces "Mind-Bending Physics", spamming shit head?
> 
>   Considerable, jimp

There is nothing in the article about the magical and special qualities
of tennis balls as opposed to any other type of ball, spamming shit head,
and now lier, spamming shit head.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#520940

Fromemptypost@hotmail.com
Date2015-09-13 21:24 -0700
Message-ID<3472a27d-3eaf-4ba0-88fa-643687296730@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#520817
There's a fully developed tennis topspin and a simpler goofy topspin.

The fully developed tennis topspin uses a slower stroke than natural but begins the stoke sooner. Then the stroke first pushes the ball forward and than adds topspin simply with the follow-through. Also, this slower stroke makes it possible to get anything on the racket and under control and that's like when slice is being hit to the player.

The simpler goofy tennis topspin is just a fast snapping stroke with as much upward motion as forward motion.

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