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1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
Last post2016-10-05 13:25 -0500
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  1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 19:50 -0500
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 20:43 -0500
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:16 -0500
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:22 -0500
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 22:47 -0500
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-10-01 13:48 +0000
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 15:27 +0100
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:53 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 21:53 +0100
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:06 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 13:31 -0700
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-01 15:03 -0700
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-02 14:54 -0700
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-02 00:18 -0400
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 09:31 -0500
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:57 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 08:11 -0700
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 18:03 +0000
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:47 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:10 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 21:15 +0000
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:21 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:12 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 17:28 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 22:51 +0000
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:26 -0500
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 05:32 +0000
                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 20:25 -0500
                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-09 03:14 +0000
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 13:59 -0500
                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-09 00:44 -0400
                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 22:30 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:20 -0700
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:11 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:27 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:26 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:12 +0000
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:16 -0400
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:28 +0000
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-02 02:18 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:47 -0400
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 19:44 -0400
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:50 +0000
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:29 -0700
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:15 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:47 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 14:40 -0500
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:24 +0000
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 20:43 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:48 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-03 11:57 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:37 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:17 -0500
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:30 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 20:17 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-02 20:48 -0500
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 21:10 -0500
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 05:14 +0000
                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-03 14:45 -0500
                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 00:12 +0000
                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 12:32 -0500
                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 18:41 +0000
                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-04 14:59 -0400
                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 19:44 +0000
                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 16:04 -0400
                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-04 21:45 +0000
                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 22:12 +0000
                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 16:13 -0700
                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 00:06 +0000
                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 19:39 -0700
                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:06 +0000
                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 23:07 -0500
                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:24 +0000
                                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:28 -0500
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-05 19:55 -0700
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:29 +0000
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 08:01 -0500
                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:29 +0000
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:39 -0700
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:19 +0000
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                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-08 00:38 +1100
                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 21:51 +0000
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                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-10-07 00:33 +0200
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 11:28 -0700
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 12:00 -0700
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:46 +0000
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#599204

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-03 05:14 +0000
Message-ID<m269cd-pk5.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599181
In sci.physics Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:nssdda$jp2$1@gioia.aioe.org:

<snip>
 
> Nonsense. The goal is to provide a 'plan B', to maintain the human race
> even if the Earth becomes uninhabitable.
> 
> Robots can't do that.

Mars is already uninhabitable.

It is difficult to conceive of anything making the Earth more uninhabitable
than Mars.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599274

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-03 14:45 -0500
Message-ID<U5Gdne03wN2iKG_KnZ2dnUU7-bOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#599204
On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> Mars is already uninhabitable.
>
> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the Earth more uninhabitable
> than Mars.

Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send scientific and military
expeditions there anyway.

Dave, also, give jeremy impson back his username plz, u r not worthy

ps: have you considered the similarity of your argument technique to the
 highly fallacious "irreducible complexity" paradigm that anti-evolutionists
 use? just sayin'
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
website on VIC is down,	probably for good - oh well/ I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#599336

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-04 00:12 +0000
Message-ID<2p8bcd-afc.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599274
In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> Mars is already uninhabitable.
>>
>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the Earth more uninhabitable
>> than Mars.
> 
> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send scientific and military
> expeditions there anyway.

Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure suit to live more
than a few seconds and have to have your food, air and water shipped in
from millions of miles away?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599412

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-04 12:32 -0500
Message-ID<ZbidncRYKfYFem7KnZ2dnUU7-XWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#599336
On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the Earth more uninhabitable
>>> than Mars.
>> 
>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send scientific and military
>> expeditions there anyway.
>
> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure suit to live more
> than a few seconds and have to have your food, air and water shipped in
> from millions of miles away?

"On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and time consuming for each and
every shipment.

Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.

Dave
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
website on VIC is down,	probably for good - oh well/ I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#599416

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-04 18:41 +0000
Message-ID<en9dcd-07j.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599412
In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the Earth more uninhabitable
>>>> than Mars.
>>> 
>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send scientific and military
>>> expeditions there anyway.
>>
>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure suit to live more
>> than a few seconds and have to have your food, air and water shipped in
>> from millions of miles away?
> 
> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and time consuming for each and
> every shipment.
> 
> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
> 
> Dave

On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599418

FromLawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net>
Date2016-10-04 14:59 -0400
Message-ID<isu7vb92vsahdml4c48m0sp8f2epql7uh4@reader80.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#599416
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the Earth more uninhabitable
>>>>> than Mars.
>>>> 
>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send scientific and military
>>>> expeditions there anyway.
>>>
>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure suit to live more
>>> than a few seconds and have to have your food, air and water shipped in
>>> from millions of miles away?
>> 
>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and time consuming for each and
>> every shipment.
>> 
>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
>
>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.

Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman.  He's talking about under the
ocean -- which is certainly "parts of the Earth."




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#599426

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-04 19:44 +0000
Message-ID<reddcd-jhj.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599418
In sci.physics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the Earth more uninhabitable
>>>>>> than Mars.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send scientific and military
>>>>> expeditions there anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure suit to live more
>>>> than a few seconds and have to have your food, air and water shipped in
>>>> from millions of miles away?
>>> 
>>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and time consuming for each and
>>> every shipment.
>>> 
>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
>>
>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.
> 
> Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman.  He's talking about under the
> ocean -- which is certainly "parts of the Earth."

Yes, I know, thus my scifi besotted child comment.

When rational adult people talk about living somewhere, they are generally
talking about living above ground and above water. 

Assuming someone for some arcane reason wanted to live under water on
Earth, doing so is technically and logistically trivial. 
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599429

From"Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu>
Date2016-10-04 16:04 -0400
Message-ID<1lmuydu4994g5$.t4fzrb70tyvg.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#599426
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:44:59 -0000,
<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote
in<news:reddcd-jhj.ln1@mail.specsol.com> in
rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,alt.astronomy:

> In sci.physics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote:

>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:

>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the
>>>>>>> Earth more uninhabitable than Mars.

>>>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send
>>>>>> scientific and military expeditions there anyway.

>>>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure
>>>>> suit to live more than a few seconds and have to
>>>>> have your food, air and water shipped in from
>>>>> millions of miles away?

>>>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and
>>>> time consuming for each and every shipment.

>>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.

>>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.

>> Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman.  He's talking
>> about under the ocean -- which is certainly "parts of
>> the Earth."

> Yes, I know, thus my scifi besotted child comment.

> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere,
> they are generally talking about living above ground and
> above water. 

In the context of a discussion of alien/exotic habitats?
Not necessarily, no.  As would be obvious to a rational
adult person.

> Assuming someone for some arcane reason wanted to live
> under water on Earth, doing so is technically and
> logistically trivial. 

No.

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#599450

Fromted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
Date2016-10-04 21:45 +0000
Message-ID<e5im7kFsaroU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#599429
In article <1lmuydu4994g5$.t4fzrb70tyvg.dlg@40tude.net>,
Brian M. Scott <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote:
>On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:44:59 -0000,
><jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote
>in<news:reddcd-jhj.ln1@mail.specsol.com> in
>rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,alt.astronomy:
>
>> In sci.physics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the
>>>>>>>> Earth more uninhabitable than Mars.
>
>>>>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send
>>>>>>> scientific and military expeditions there anyway.
>
>>>>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure
>>>>>> suit to live more than a few seconds and have to
>>>>>> have your food, air and water shipped in from
>>>>>> millions of miles away?
>
>>>>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and
>>>>> time consuming for each and every shipment.
>
>>>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
>
>>>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.
>
>>> Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman.  He's talking
>>> about under the ocean -- which is certainly "parts of
>>> the Earth."
>
>> Yes, I know, thus my scifi besotted child comment.
>
>> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere,
>> they are generally talking about living above ground and
>> above water. 
>
>In the context of a discussion of alien/exotic habitats?
>Not necessarily, no.  As would be obvious to a rational
>adult person.
>
>> Assuming someone for some arcane reason wanted to live
>> under water on Earth, doing so is technically and
>> logistically trivial. 
>
>No.

But I saw a documentary!

	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfYeylQV6VE
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#599451

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-04 22:12 +0000
Message-ID<o2mdcd-adk.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599429
In sci.physics Brian M. Scott <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:44:59 -0000,
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote
> in<news:reddcd-jhj.ln1@mail.specsol.com> in
> rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,alt.astronomy:
> 
>> In sci.physics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
> 
>>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the
>>>>>>>> Earth more uninhabitable than Mars.
> 
>>>>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send
>>>>>>> scientific and military expeditions there anyway.
> 
>>>>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure
>>>>>> suit to live more than a few seconds and have to
>>>>>> have your food, air and water shipped in from
>>>>>> millions of miles away?
> 
>>>>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and
>>>>> time consuming for each and every shipment.
> 
>>>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
> 
>>>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.
> 
>>> Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman.  He's talking
>>> about under the ocean -- which is certainly "parts of
>>> the Earth."
> 
>> Yes, I know, thus my scifi besotted child comment.
> 
>> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere,
>> they are generally talking about living above ground and
>> above water. 
> 
> In the context of a discussion of alien/exotic habitats?
> Not necessarily, no.  As would be obvious to a rational
> adult person.

Living under water on Earth is certainly NOT more difficult than
living anywhere on Mars, except maybe the core.

>> Assuming someone for some arcane reason wanted to live
>> under water on Earth, doing so is technically and
>> logistically trivial. 
> 
> No.

What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
sundries?

Have you ever heard of a submarine?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599469

FromDon Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
Date2016-10-04 16:13 -0700
Message-ID<nt1d1f$3rh$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#599451
In article <o2mdcd-adk.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
wrote:

> In sci.physics Brian M. Scott <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:44:59 -0000,
> > <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote
> > in<news:reddcd-jhj.ln1@mail.specsol.com> in
> > rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,alt.astronomy:
> > 
> >> In sci.physics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
> > 
> >>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000,
> >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > 
> >>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
> >>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> >>>>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
> >>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
> >>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> >>>>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
> >>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>>>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the
> >>>>>>>> Earth more uninhabitable than Mars.
> > 
> >>>>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send
> >>>>>>> scientific and military expeditions there anyway.
> > 
> >>>>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure
> >>>>>> suit to live more than a few seconds and have to
> >>>>>> have your food, air and water shipped in from
> >>>>>> millions of miles away?
> > 
> >>>>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and
> >>>>> time consuming for each and every shipment.
> > 
> >>>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
> > 
> >>>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.
> > 
> >>> Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman.  He's talking
> >>> about under the ocean -- which is certainly "parts of
> >>> the Earth."
> > 
> >> Yes, I know, thus my scifi besotted child comment.
> > 
> >> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere,
> >> they are generally talking about living above ground and
> >> above water. 
> > 
> > In the context of a discussion of alien/exotic habitats?
> > Not necessarily, no.  As would be obvious to a rational
> > adult person.
> 
> Living under water on Earth is certainly NOT more difficult than
> living anywhere on Mars, except maybe the core.
> 
> >> Assuming someone for some arcane reason wanted to live
> >> under water on Earth, doing so is technically and
> >> logistically trivial. 
> > 
> > No.
> 
> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
> sundries?

Oh, boy... If you set out to intentionally expose how *TOTALLY* ignorant 
on the subject you are, you couldn't have done so more clearly than by 
typing that sentence. You've just demonstrated that you've got nothing 
to say on the topic that isn't coming straight out of your ass.

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#599476

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-05 00:06 +0000
Message-ID<uosdcd-91l.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599469
In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article <o2mdcd-adk.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
> wrote:
> 
>> In sci.physics Brian M. Scott <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:44:59 -0000,
>> > <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote
>> > in<news:reddcd-jhj.ln1@mail.specsol.com> in
>> > rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,alt.astronomy:
>> > 
>> >> In sci.physics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> >>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000,
>> >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> > 
>> >>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>> >>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> >>>>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> >>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>> >>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> >>>>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> >>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >>>>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the
>> >>>>>>>> Earth more uninhabitable than Mars.
>> > 
>> >>>>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send
>> >>>>>>> scientific and military expeditions there anyway.
>> > 
>> >>>>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure
>> >>>>>> suit to live more than a few seconds and have to
>> >>>>>> have your food, air and water shipped in from
>> >>>>>> millions of miles away?
>> > 
>> >>>>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and
>> >>>>> time consuming for each and every shipment.
>> > 
>> >>>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
>> > 
>> >>>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.
>> > 
>> >>> Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman.  He's talking
>> >>> about under the ocean -- which is certainly "parts of
>> >>> the Earth."
>> > 
>> >> Yes, I know, thus my scifi besotted child comment.
>> > 
>> >> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere,
>> >> they are generally talking about living above ground and
>> >> above water. 
>> > 
>> > In the context of a discussion of alien/exotic habitats?
>> > Not necessarily, no.  As would be obvious to a rational
>> > adult person.
>> 
>> Living under water on Earth is certainly NOT more difficult than
>> living anywhere on Mars, except maybe the core.
>> 
>> >> Assuming someone for some arcane reason wanted to live
>> >> under water on Earth, doing so is technically and
>> >> logistically trivial. 
>> > 
>> > No.
>> 
>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
>> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
>> sundries?
> 
> Oh, boy... If you set out to intentionally expose how *TOTALLY* ignorant 
> on the subject you are, you couldn't have done so more clearly than by 
> typing that sentence. You've just demonstrated that you've got nothing 
> to say on the topic that isn't coming straight out of your ass.

You do know that people go under water on Earth naked?

You have yet to define any real challenge to being under water on Earth. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599490

FromDon Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
Date2016-10-04 19:39 -0700
Message-ID<nt1p47$o9r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#599476
In article <uosdcd-91l.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
wrote:

> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> > In article <o2mdcd-adk.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> In sci.physics Brian M. Scott <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:44:59 -0000,
> >> > <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote
> >> > in<news:reddcd-jhj.ln1@mail.specsol.com> in
> >> > rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,alt.astronomy:
> >> > 
> >> >> In sci.physics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000,
> >> >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
> >> >>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >>>>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
> >> >>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
> >> >>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >>>>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
> >> >>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >>>>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the
> >> >>>>>>>> Earth more uninhabitable than Mars.
> >> > 
> >> >>>>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send
> >> >>>>>>> scientific and military expeditions there anyway.
> >> > 
> >> >>>>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure
> >> >>>>>> suit to live more than a few seconds and have to
> >> >>>>>> have your food, air and water shipped in from
> >> >>>>>> millions of miles away?
> >> > 
> >> >>>>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and
> >> >>>>> time consuming for each and every shipment.
> >> > 
> >> >>>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
> >> > 
> >> >>>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.
> >> > 
> >> >>> Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman.  He's talking
> >> >>> about under the ocean -- which is certainly "parts of
> >> >>> the Earth."
> >> > 
> >> >> Yes, I know, thus my scifi besotted child comment.
> >> > 
> >> >> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere,
> >> >> they are generally talking about living above ground and
> >> >> above water. 
> >> > 
> >> > In the context of a discussion of alien/exotic habitats?
> >> > Not necessarily, no.  As would be obvious to a rational
> >> > adult person.
> >> 
> >> Living under water on Earth is certainly NOT more difficult than
> >> living anywhere on Mars, except maybe the core.
> >> 
> >> >> Assuming someone for some arcane reason wanted to live
> >> >> under water on Earth, doing so is technically and
> >> >> logistically trivial. 
> >> > 
> >> > No.
> >> 
> >> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
> >> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
> >> sundries?
> > 
> > Oh, boy... If you set out to intentionally expose how *TOTALLY* ignorant 
> > on the subject you are, you couldn't have done so more clearly than by 
> > typing that sentence. You've just demonstrated that you've got nothing 
> > to say on the topic that isn't coming straight out of your ass.
> 
> You do know that people go under water on Earth naked?
> 
> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under water on Earth.

Son, "GO" underwater is (mostly - it can turn ugly) no big deal. *LIVE* 
underwater, on the other hand, is fraught with difficulties for every 
human I've ever heard of. If you know so little that you don't see even 
the most obvious of them, you clearly don't know enough about the 
subject to be trying to talk about how trivial it is.

I'll grant that, with enough expenditure of time, effort, and resources, 
it *IS* possible to do. However, so far, I haven't heard of more than 
prototype-level attempts, and none of those have lasted long enough to 
call them a viable alternative to land-based living. VERY not-trivial, 
dude... Extremely not-trivial.

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#599501

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-05 05:06 +0000
Message-ID<6beecd-6nm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599490
In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article <uosdcd-91l.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
> wrote:
> 
>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>> > In article <o2mdcd-adk.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> >> In sci.physics Brian M. Scott <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:44:59 -0000,
>> >> > <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote
>> >> > in<news:reddcd-jhj.ln1@mail.specsol.com> in
>> >> > rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,alt.astronomy:
>> >> > 
>> >> >> In sci.physics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000,
>> >> >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>> >> >>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> >> >>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>> >> >>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> >> >>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the
>> >> >>>>>>>> Earth more uninhabitable than Mars.
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send
>> >> >>>>>>> scientific and military expeditions there anyway.
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure
>> >> >>>>>> suit to live more than a few seconds and have to
>> >> >>>>>> have your food, air and water shipped in from
>> >> >>>>>> millions of miles away?
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and
>> >> >>>>> time consuming for each and every shipment.
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
>> >> > 
>> >> >>>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.
>> >> > 
>> >> >>> Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman.  He's talking
>> >> >>> about under the ocean -- which is certainly "parts of
>> >> >>> the Earth."
>> >> > 
>> >> >> Yes, I know, thus my scifi besotted child comment.
>> >> > 
>> >> >> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere,
>> >> >> they are generally talking about living above ground and
>> >> >> above water. 
>> >> > 
>> >> > In the context of a discussion of alien/exotic habitats?
>> >> > Not necessarily, no.  As would be obvious to a rational
>> >> > adult person.
>> >> 
>> >> Living under water on Earth is certainly NOT more difficult than
>> >> living anywhere on Mars, except maybe the core.
>> >> 
>> >> >> Assuming someone for some arcane reason wanted to live
>> >> >> under water on Earth, doing so is technically and
>> >> >> logistically trivial. 
>> >> > 
>> >> > No.
>> >> 
>> >> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
>> >> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
>> >> sundries?
>> > 
>> > Oh, boy... If you set out to intentionally expose how *TOTALLY* ignorant 
>> > on the subject you are, you couldn't have done so more clearly than by 
>> > typing that sentence. You've just demonstrated that you've got nothing 
>> > to say on the topic that isn't coming straight out of your ass.
>> 
>> You do know that people go under water on Earth naked?
>> 
>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under water on Earth.
> 
> Son, "GO" underwater is (mostly - it can turn ugly) no big deal. *LIVE* 
> underwater, on the other hand, is fraught with difficulties for every 
> human I've ever heard of. If you know so little that you don't see even 
> the most obvious of them, you clearly don't know enough about the 
> subject to be trying to talk about how trivial it is.

Still nothing but arm waving.

Have you ever heard of submarines? Not only do they stay underwater for
extended periods, they travel and carry weapons.

> I'll grant that, with enough expenditure of time, effort, and resources, 
> it *IS* possible to do. However, so far, I haven't heard of more than 
> prototype-level attempts, and none of those have lasted long enough to 
> call them a viable alternative to land-based living. VERY not-trivial, 
> dude... Extremely not-trivial.

Everything it takes to build an underwater habitate is available at
at any decent construction supply place and industrial supply store.

Did it ever occur to you the reason no one is doing it on any scale
is that other than a few researchers no one wants to live underwater?

-- 
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#599498

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-04 23:07 -0500
Message-ID<vdadnaSnPq7t4WnKnZ2dnUU7-aOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#599476
On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:

>>> >>>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
>>> > 
>>> >>>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.

Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on the land portions of
Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which would satisfy
the latter.

>>> >> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere,
>>> >> they are generally talking about living above ground and
>>> >> above water. 

Sure, but we're talking with you, instead.

>>> Living under water on Earth is certainly NOT more difficult than
>>> living anywhere on Mars, except maybe the core.
[...]
>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
>>> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
>>> sundries?

Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you in this context? How
about a "Torricellian vacuum"?

>> Oh, boy... If you set out to intentionally expose how *TOTALLY* ignorant 
>> on the subject you are, you couldn't have done so more clearly than by 
>> typing that sentence. You've just demonstrated that you've got nothing 
>> to say on the topic that isn't coming straight out of your ass.
>
> You do know that people go under water on Earth naked?

Sure... for a few yards. They may even go deeper for a minute or two. They
don't stay down there any length of time naked; there's no AIR there, dude.

> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under water on Earth. 

Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's no AIR there, dude"?
The one starting with P, the one starting with T, the one starting with L, to
start with (pun intended, in the hope it causes him pain)?

Dave, has helium-3 mining died in vain??
-- 
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It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
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#599502

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-05 05:24 +0000
Message-ID<bdfecd-esm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599498
In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> 
>>>> >>>>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native.
>>>> > 
>>>> >>>>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child.
> 
> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on the land portions of
> Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which would satisfy
> the latter.

And that would be where and how many people would want to live there?

>>>> >> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere,
>>>> >> they are generally talking about living above ground and
>>>> >> above water. 
> 
> Sure, but we're talking with you, instead.

Who like most people has no desire to live either underground or underwater.

>>>> Living under water on Earth is certainly NOT more difficult than
>>>> living anywhere on Mars, except maybe the core.
> [...]
>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
>>>> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
>>>> sundries?
> 
> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you in this context? How
> about a "Torricellian vacuum"?

Not in the context of an underwater structure.

Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you?

>>> Oh, boy... If you set out to intentionally expose how *TOTALLY* ignorant 
>>> on the subject you are, you couldn't have done so more clearly than by 
>>> typing that sentence. You've just demonstrated that you've got nothing 
>>> to say on the topic that isn't coming straight out of your ass.
>>
>> You do know that people go under water on Earth naked?
> 
> Sure... for a few yards. They may even go deeper for a minute or two. They
> don't stay down there any length of time naked; there's no AIR there, dude.

You only live for seconds on the surface of Mars without a pressure suit.

The free diving (no equipment) record is 253.2 meters, which took a bit
longer than a minute or two.
 
>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under water on Earth. 
> 
> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's no AIR there, dude"?

Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works?


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#599640

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-05 21:28 -0500
Message-ID<SbadnT6VtLVLK2jKnZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#599502
On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on the land portions
>> of Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which would
>> satisfy the latter.
>
> And that would be where and how many people would want to live there?

You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no large native mammals,
if that helps you any.

>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
>>>>> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
>>>>> sundries?
>> 
>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you in this context?
>> How about a "Torricellian vacuum"?
>
> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>
> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you?

... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how close to the surface
one needs to be to use one, please. Sheesh.

>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under water on Earth. 
>> 
>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's no AIR there,
>> dude"?
>
> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works?

Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, to him? It's basic
physics... which he seems to not have ever encountered.

Dave
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#599643

FromDon Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
Date2016-10-05 19:55 -0700
Message-ID<nt4ed4$qsi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#599640
In article <SbadnT6VtLVLK2jKnZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> > In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> >>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> >> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on the land portions
> >> of Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which would
> >> satisfy the latter.
> >
> > And that would be where and how many people would want to live there?
> 
> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no large native mammals,
> if that helps you any.
> 
> >>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
> >>>>> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
> >>>>> sundries?
> >> 
> >> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you in this context?
> >> How about a "Torricellian vacuum"?
> >
> > Not in the context of an underwater structure.
> >
> > Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you?
> 
> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how close to the surface
> one needs to be to use one, please. Sheesh.
> 
> >>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under water on Earth. 
> >> 
> >> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's no AIR there,
> >> dude"?
> >
> > Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works?
> 
> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, to him? It's basic
> physics... which he seems to not have ever encountered.
> 
> Dave

"SEEMS"?!?!?!? Dave, he's done everything but straight-out say that he 
doesn't have the first friggin' *CLUE* what's involved in underwater 
life-support. Hell, I doubt he has any idea what depth an underwater 
habitat would have to be at to avoid being pounded into rubble by wave 
action. And even less idea what kind of pressure such a habitat would 
have to withstand. Never mind how much decompression time would be 
needed for a "quick trip to the nearest store". 

In a nutshell, he's utterly clueless about what's involved, but somehow, 
he's become convinced he's qualified to even think about having an 
opinion on how difficult a task it is.

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#599652

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-06 04:29 +0000
Message-ID<ui0hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599643
In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article <SbadnT6VtLVLK2jKnZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>  David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> > In sci.physics David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> >>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>> >> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not "on the land portions
>> >> of Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which would
>> >> satisfy the latter.
>> >
>> > And that would be where and how many people would want to live there?
>> 
>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no large native mammals,
>> if that helps you any.
>> 
>> >>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the surface and an air
>> >>>>> pump for air and a boat to the nearest store for beer and other
>> >>>>> sundries?
>> >> 
>> >> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to you in this context?
>> >> How about a "Torricellian vacuum"?
>> >
>> > Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>> >
>> > Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to you?
>> 
>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how close to the surface
>> one needs to be to use one, please. Sheesh.
>> 
>> >>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being under water on Earth. 
>> >> 
>> >> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than "there's no AIR there,
>> >> dude"?
>> >
>> > Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface works?
>> 
>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up there, to him? It's basic
>> physics... which he seems to not have ever encountered.
>> 
>> Dave
> 
> "SEEMS"?!?!?!? Dave, he's done everything but straight-out say that he 
> doesn't have the first friggin' *CLUE* what's involved in underwater 
> life-support. Hell, I doubt he has any idea what depth an underwater 
> habitat would have to be at to avoid being pounded into rubble by wave 
> action. And even less idea what kind of pressure such a habitat would 
> have to withstand. Never mind how much decompression time would be 
> needed for a "quick trip to the nearest store". 

If you are in a closed habitat, there is no reason to have any internal
pressure other than atmospheric.

The pressure outside of a closed, underwater container has nothing
to do with the pressure inside.

As anyone who has ever been in a submarine can attest, wave forces
diminish rapidly with depth.

> In a nutshell, he's utterly clueless about what's involved, but somehow, 
> he's become convinced he's qualified to even think about having an 
> opinion on how difficult a task it is.

Just yet more arm waving and ad hominem.

 

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#599667

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-06 08:01 -0500
Message-ID<SdSdnWBEhJm71mvKnZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#599652
On 2016-10-06, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> The pressure outside of a closed, underwater container has nothing
> to do with the pressure inside.

Mmm HM. Do go on.

>> In a nutshell, he's utterly clueless about what's involved, but somehow, 
>> he's become convinced he's qualified to even think about having an 
>> opinion on how difficult a task it is.
>
> Just yet more arm waving and ad hominem.

Nah. If someone's pointing out that you don't know what you're talking about,
dismissing it as "ad hominem" shows a basic failure of understanding of what
that objection actually MEANS. It also is a warning sign of Dunning-Kruger.

Of course, if you want to feel that you're perfectly knowledgeable, and it's
everyone else who doesn't know what they're talking about? ... Also a warning
sign.

Dave, note that I'm analyzing your objection here, not your original arguments
 (A CLUE! A CLUE!)
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