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  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-10 23:42 -0700
    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-12 10:00 -0700
    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-13 12:30 -0700
      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-13 23:17 -0700
        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 13:50 -0700
        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 13:57 -0700
          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Earle Marqueringh <rhmq@qramarar.ru> - 2023-06-15 22:17 +0000
            Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 16:04 -0700
              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 21:43 -0700
          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 23:32 -0700
            Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 23:36 -0700
              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 19:46 -0700
                Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-24 01:15 -0700
                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-24 10:44 -0700
                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-25 01:50 -0700
                      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-26 11:30 -0700
                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-27 14:04 -0700
                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-27 14:21 -0700
                            Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-27 21:05 -0700
                              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-29 15:00 -0700
                                Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-13 10:41 -0700
                                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-13 13:32 -0700
                                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-15 00:34 -0700
                              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-09 12:28 -0700
                                Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Dillon Kringos <okgi@skgnollg.ln> - 2023-07-09 19:41 +0000
                                Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-28 13:36 -0700
                                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-28 13:49 -0700
                                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-29 22:30 -0700
                                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-05 22:09 -0700
                                      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-07 23:49 -0700
                                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 06:17 -0400
                                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-08 10:52 -0700
                                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-21 23:47 -0700
                                      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-23 12:36 -0700
                                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-23 14:11 -0700
                                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-23 15:11 -0700
                                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 17:14 -0500
                                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-23 23:06 -0700
                                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 17:13 -0500
                                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 17:58 -0500
                                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 20:07 -0400

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#875936 — Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM.

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > > > On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
> > > >
> > > > They sure are!
> > > >
> > > > Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a
> > > > couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out.
> > > >
> > > > Get your iodine pills now!
> > >
> > > The chief of Wagner group is accusing Moscow of having plans to use a tactical nuke within Russia, at Belgorod.
> > >
> > > What about that?
> >
> > He's a ...Mad Russian..
> >
> > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> 
> He's thinks he's Lee Marvin...and his...Dirty Dozen.
> 
> I guess Ukraine must be the nazi's...
> 
> which side you're on, the commies or the nazis?


But, I'm a little confused...
which side are you people on? The Commies side or the Nazi's side????


I know during the ww2 it was the nazi's against the commies...

which side were you with then?

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#876004

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > > > > On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > > Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
> > > > >
> > > > > They sure are!
> > > > >
> > > > > Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a
> > > > > couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Get your iodine pills now!
> > > >
> > > > The chief of Wagner group is accusing Moscow of having plans to use a tactical nuke within Russia, at Belgorod.
> > > >
> > > > What about that?
> > >
> > > He's a ...Mad Russian..
> > >
> > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> >
> > He's thinks he's Lee Marvin...and his...Dirty Dozen.
> >
> > I guess Ukraine must be the nazi's...
> >
> > which side you're on, the commies or the nazis?
> 
> But, I'm a little confused...
> which side are you people on? The Commies side or the Nazi's side????
> 
> I know during the ww2 it was the nazi's against the commies...
> 
> which side were you with then?


I guess yous people have always been on the side of the...Nazi's. 








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#876064

This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C


Believe it or not, will become the next President of Russia!



I'm going to have to go to Russia myself and give him a grenade sandwitch.


i don't have time for politics.













The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > > > > On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > > Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
> > > > >
> > > > > They sure are!
> > > > >
> > > > > Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a
> > > > > couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Get your iodine pills now!
> > > >
> > > > The chief of Wagner group is accusing Moscow of having plans to use a tactical nuke within Russia, at Belgorod.
> > > >
> > > > What about that?
> > >
> > > He's a ...Mad Russian..
> > >
> > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> >
> > He's thinks he's Lee Marvin...and his...Dirty Dozen.
> >
> > I guess Ukraine must be the nazi's...
> >
> > which side you're on, the commies or the nazis?
> 
> But, I'm a little confused...
> which side are you people on? The Commies side or the Nazi's side????
> 
> I know during the ww2 it was the nazi's against the commies...
> 
> which side were you with then?
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

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#876077

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> 
> https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> 
> Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!


Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

(Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal. 
In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft. 
While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries. 
There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad. 
In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
 the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
 a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
 the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
 by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
 One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.





"stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?




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#876137

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> >
> > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> >
> > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> 
> Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> 
> Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> 
> (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> 
> Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
>  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
>  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into

>  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
>  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
>  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> 
> "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?



Oh oh, i see a drone...is he going to kill me!!!



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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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#876139

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> >
> > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> >
> > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> 
> Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> 
> Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> 
> (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> 
> Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
>  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
>  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
>  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
>  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
>  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> 
> "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. 


He's Putin's kind of guy...


i cannot imagine another better canidate. All he needs now is to install Dominion Voting Machines in Russia and he's President!


stick a usb in the machine and you're in like flint.


How amny votes you want, 10 million? No problem, take the usb stick out and no trace.


Dominion Voting Machines...there is no subsitute!  


Sold to Dictators everywhere!!!






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#876141

The Starmaker wrote:

> This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President
> for Russia...he's strickly criminal. He's Putin's kind of guy...

stop spamming, you retarded imbecile. I shit on you and your shithole of a 
terrorist country. You don't even know you are a terrorist.

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#876142

Where can I buy one of those small drones that shoot and kill people? 


I got buyers in Columbia and cartels in Mexico that will buy all I can
get....


and women who want to kill their husbands...


hell, everybody wants one now!


even Putin is a customer...and Kamala Harris! (who do she want dead????)
(probably a White guy she knows)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2W8yRa9XuA


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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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#876143

Where can I buy one of those small drones that shoot and kill people? 


I got buyers in Columbia and cartels in Mexico that will buy all I can
get....


and women who want to kill their husbands...


hell, everybody wants one now!


even Putin is a customer...and Kamala Harris! (who do she want dead????)
(probably a White guy she knows)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2W8yRa9XuA





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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#876147

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > >
> > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > >
> > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> >
> > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> >
> > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> >
> > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> >
> > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> >
> > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> 
> This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> 
> He's Putin's kind of guy...

Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
underboss.

Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

If you need a little more understanding...


By Garry Kasparov
When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
the medieval red walls.

Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
into private accounts.

Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omertà by going
to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
over the main suspect in the murder.

Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
all just cards to be played.



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#876148

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > > >
> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > > >
> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> > >
> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > >
> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> > >
> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> > >
> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> > >
> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> >
> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> >
> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> 
> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> underboss.
> 
> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> 
> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> 
> If you need a little more understanding...
> 
> By Garry Kasparov
> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> 
> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> the medieval red walls.
> 
> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> 
> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> 
> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> 
> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> 
> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> into private accounts.
> 
> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omertà by going
> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> over the main suspect in the murder.
> 
> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> 
> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> all just cards to be played.



Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.







> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#876506

Looks to me..
This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

looks to me
he is going to vote himself in...
and knock off Putin.

Mob style.


It's a Mafia state, why not?


you gotta do it wit style.








On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >
>> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
>> > > >
>> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
>> > > >
>> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
>> > >
>> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
>> > >
>> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
>> > >
>> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
>> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
>> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
>> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
>> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
>> > >
>> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
>> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
>> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
>> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
>> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
>> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
>> > >
>> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
>> >
>> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
>> >
>> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
>> 
>> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
>> underboss.
>> 
>> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
>> 
>> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
>> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
>> 
>> If you need a little more understanding...
>> 
>> By Garry Kasparov
>> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
>> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
>> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
>> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
>> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
>> 
>> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
>> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
>> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
>> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
>> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
>> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
>> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
>> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
>> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
>> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
>> the medieval red walls.
>> 
>> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
>> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
>> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
>> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
>> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
>> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
>> 
>> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
>> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
>> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
>> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
>> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
>> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
>> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
>> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
>> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
>> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
>> 
>> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
>> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
>> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
>> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
>> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
>> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
>> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
>> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
>> 
>> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
>> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
>> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
>> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
>> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
>> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
>> 
>> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
>> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
>> into private accounts.
>> 
>> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
>> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
>> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
>> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
>> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
>> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
>> over the main suspect in the murder.
>> 
>> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
>> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
>> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
>> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
>> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
>> 
>> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
>> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
>> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
>> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
>> all just cards to be played.
>
>
>
>Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
>
>When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> 
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge
>>  the unchallengeable.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#876514

This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?


Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...


Mob Wars.



Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Looks to me..
> This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
> President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
> 
> looks to me
> he is going to vote himself in...
> and knock off Putin.
> 
> Mob style.
> 
> It's a Mafia state, why not?
> 
> you gotta do it wit style.
> 
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> >> > > >
> >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> >> > >
> >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> >> > >
> >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> >> > >
> >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> >> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> >> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> >> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> >> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> >> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> >> > >
> >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> >> >
> >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> >> >
> >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> >>
> >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> >> underboss.
> >>
> >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> >>
> >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> >>
> >> If you need a little more understanding...
> >>
> >> By Garry Kasparov
> >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> >>
> >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> >> the medieval red walls.
> >>
> >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> >>
> >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> >>
> >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> >>
> >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> >>
> >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> >> into private accounts.
> >>
> >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> >> over the main suspect in the murder.
> >>
> >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> >>
> >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> >> all just cards to be played.
> >
> >
> >
> >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
> >
> >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> >> and challenge
> >>  the unchallengeable.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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#876546

Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
purse snatcher Wagner.


One of those two has to...die.


Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?


Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?



well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....


Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.


Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington! 

(luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
Crime Families!)


It's Kill or be Killed.


You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.



As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...  



The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
> Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
> 
> Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
> 
> Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
> 
> Mob Wars.
> 
> Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Looks to me..
> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
> > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
> >
> > looks to me
> > he is going to vote himself in...
> > and knock off Putin.
> >
> > Mob style.
> >
> > It's a Mafia state, why not?
> >
> > you gotta do it wit style.
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> > >> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> > >> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> > >> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> > >> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> > >> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> > >> >
> > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> > >> >
> > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > >>
> > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> > >> underboss.
> > >>
> > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> > >>
> > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> > >>
> > >> If you need a little more understanding...
> > >>
> > >> By Garry Kasparov
> > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> > >>
> > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> > >> the medieval red walls.
> > >>
> > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> > >>
> > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> > >>
> > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> > >>
> > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> > >>
> > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> > >> into private accounts.
> > >>
> > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
> > >>
> > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> > >>
> > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> > >> all just cards to be played.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
> > >
> > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > >> and challenge
> > >>  the unchallengeable.
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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#876582

I heard the FBI needs your help..

they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif



looks a liitle familiar..

there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02


https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif




i tink i know where dis guy lives..







The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
> purse snatcher Wagner.
> 
> One of those two has to...die.
> 
> Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
> 
> Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
> 
> well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
> 
> Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
> 
> Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
> 
> (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
> Crime Families!)
> 
> It's Kill or be Killed.
> 
> You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
> 
> As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
> > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
> >
> > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
> >
> > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
> >
> > Mob Wars.
> >
> > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks to me..
> > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
> > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
> > >
> > > looks to me
> > > he is going to vote himself in...
> > > and knock off Putin.
> > >
> > > Mob style.
> > >
> > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
> > >
> > > you gotta do it wit style.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> > > >> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> > > >> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> > > >> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> > > >> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> > > >> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > >>
> > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> > > >> underboss.
> > > >>
> > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> > > >>
> > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
> > > >>
> > > >> By Garry Kasparov
> > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> > > >>
> > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> > > >> the medieval red walls.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> > > >>
> > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> > > >>
> > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> > > >>
> > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> > > >>
> > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> > > >> into private accounts.
> > > >>
> > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> > > >> all just cards to be played.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
> > > >
> > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > >> and challenge
> > > >>  the unchallengeable.
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#876651

if you people know anything about the mafia...
you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

One of them has to die...soon.


Which one is it going to be????


(the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)

dis is not a game of chess..









The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> I heard the FBI needs your help..
> 
> they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?
> 
> https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> 
> looks a liitle familiar..
> 
> there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02
> 
> https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> 
> i tink i know where dis guy lives..
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
> > purse snatcher Wagner.
> >
> > One of those two has to...die.
> >
> > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
> >
> > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
> >
> > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
> >
> > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
> >
> > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
> >
> > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
> > Crime Families!)
> >
> > It's Kill or be Killed.
> >
> > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
> >
> > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
> > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
> > >
> > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
> > >
> > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
> > >
> > > Mob Wars.
> > >
> > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looks to me..
> > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
> > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
> > > >
> > > > looks to me
> > > > he is going to vote himself in...
> > > > and knock off Putin.
> > > >
> > > > Mob style.
> > > >
> > > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
> > > >
> > > > you gotta do it wit style.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> > > > >> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> > > > >> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> > > > >> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> > > > >> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> > > > >> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> > > > >> underboss.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> By Garry Kasparov
> > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> > > > >> the medieval red walls.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> > > > >> into private accounts.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> > > > >> all just cards to be played.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
> > > > >
> > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > >>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > >> and challenge
> > > > >>  the unchallengeable.
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
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#876693

My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
...windows.






The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> if you people know anything about the mafia...
> you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...
> 
> EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!
> 
> One of them has to die...soon.
> 
> Which one is it going to be????
> 
> (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)
> 
> dis is not a game of chess..
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > I heard the FBI needs your help..
> >
> > they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?
> >
> > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> >
> > looks a liitle familiar..
> >
> > there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02
> >
> > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> >
> > i tink i know where dis guy lives..
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
> > > purse snatcher Wagner.
> > >
> > > One of those two has to...die.
> > >
> > > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
> > >
> > > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
> > >
> > > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
> > >
> > > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
> > >
> > > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
> > >
> > > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
> > > Crime Families!)
> > >
> > > It's Kill or be Killed.
> > >
> > > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
> > >
> > > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
> > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
> > > >
> > > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
> > > >
> > > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
> > > >
> > > > Mob Wars.
> > > >
> > > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks to me..
> > > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
> > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
> > > > >
> > > > > looks to me
> > > > > he is going to vote himself in...
> > > > > and knock off Putin.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mob style.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
> > > > >
> > > > > you gotta do it wit style.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> > > > > >> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> > > > > >> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> > > > > >> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> > > > > >> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> > > > > >> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> > > > > >> underboss.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> > > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> By Garry Kasparov
> > > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> > > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> > > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> > > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> > > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> > > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> > > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> > > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> > > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> > > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> > > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> > > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> > > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> > > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> > > > > >> the medieval red walls.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> > > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> > > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> > > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> > > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> > > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> > > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> > > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> > > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> > > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> > > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> > > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> > > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> > > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> > > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> > > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> > > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> > > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> > > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> > > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> > > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> > > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> > > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> > > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> > > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> > > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> > > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> > > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> > > > > >> into private accounts.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> > > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> > > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> > > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> > > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> > > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> > > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> > > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> > > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> > > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> > > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> > > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> > > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> > > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> > > > > >> all just cards to be played.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > >>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > >> and challenge
> > > > > >>  the unchallengeable.
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > and challenge
> > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#876694

So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
"Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".

Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"



two bulldogs under a rug....



who will come out..alive?











The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
> ...windows.
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > if you people know anything about the mafia...
> > you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...
> >
> > EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!
> >
> > One of them has to die...soon.
> >
> > Which one is it going to be????
> >
> > (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)
> >
> > dis is not a game of chess..
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > I heard the FBI needs your help..
> > >
> > > they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?
> > >
> > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> > >
> > > looks a liitle familiar..
> > >
> > > there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02
> > >
> > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> > >
> > > i tink i know where dis guy lives..
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
> > > > purse snatcher Wagner.
> > > >
> > > > One of those two has to...die.
> > > >
> > > > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
> > > >
> > > > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
> > > >
> > > > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
> > > >
> > > > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
> > > >
> > > > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
> > > >
> > > > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
> > > > Crime Families!)
> > > >
> > > > It's Kill or be Killed.
> > > >
> > > > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
> > > >
> > > > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
> > > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
> > > > >
> > > > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
> > > > >
> > > > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
> > > > >
> > > > > Mob Wars.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks to me..
> > > > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
> > > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
> > > > > >
> > > > > > looks to me
> > > > > > he is going to vote himself in...
> > > > > > and knock off Putin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mob style.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you gotta do it wit style.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > > > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > > > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > > > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > > > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> > > > > > >> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> > > > > > >> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> > > > > > >> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> > > > > > >> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> > > > > > >> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> > > > > > >> underboss.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> > > > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> By Garry Kasparov
> > > > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> > > > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> > > > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> > > > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> > > > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> > > > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> > > > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> > > > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> > > > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> > > > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> > > > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> > > > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> > > > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> > > > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> > > > > > >> the medieval red walls.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> > > > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> > > > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> > > > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> > > > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> > > > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> > > > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> > > > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> > > > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> > > > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> > > > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> > > > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> > > > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> > > > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> > > > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> > > > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> > > > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> > > > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> > > > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> > > > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> > > > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> > > > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> > > > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> > > > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> > > > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> > > > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> > > > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> > > > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> > > > > > >> into private accounts.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> > > > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> > > > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> > > > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> > > > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> > > > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> > > > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> > > > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> > > > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> > > > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> > > > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> > > > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> > > > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> > > > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> > > > > > >> all just cards to be played.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > >>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > > >> and challenge
> > > > > > >>  the unchallengeable.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > and challenge
> > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > and challenge
> > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

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#876700

...and while the two bulldogs are
fighting under the rug...

now it's a good time for
the little people of Russia to
arm themselves and take Putin out.

dat wagner guy would forgive them.

Now is the time to stick a
water hose down Putin's throat
while he is already drowning.

finish him off..
 


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
> "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".
> 
> Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"
> 
> and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"
> 
> Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."
> 
> Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"
> 
> two bulldogs under a rug....
> 
> who will come out..alive?
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
> > ...windows.
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > if you people know anything about the mafia...
> > > you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...
> > >
> > > EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!
> > >
> > > One of them has to die...soon.
> > >
> > > Which one is it going to be????
> > >
> > > (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)
> > >
> > > dis is not a game of chess..
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I heard the FBI needs your help..
> > > >
> > > > they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?
> > > >
> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> > > >
> > > > looks a liitle familiar..
> > > >
> > > > there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02
> > > >
> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> > > >
> > > > i tink i know where dis guy lives..
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
> > > > > purse snatcher Wagner.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of those two has to...die.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
> > > > >
> > > > > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
> > > > >
> > > > > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
> > > > >
> > > > > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
> > > > >
> > > > > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
> > > > >
> > > > > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
> > > > > Crime Families!)
> > > > >
> > > > > It's Kill or be Killed.
> > > > >
> > > > > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
> > > > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mob Wars.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looks to me..
> > > > > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
> > > > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > looks to me
> > > > > > > he is going to vote himself in...
> > > > > > > and knock off Putin.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mob style.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > you gotta do it wit style.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > > > > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > > > > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > > > > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > > > > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> > > > > > > >> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> > > > > > > >> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> > > > > > > >> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> > > > > > > >> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> > > > > > > >> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> > > > > > > >> underboss.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> > > > > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> By Garry Kasparov
> > > > > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> > > > > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> > > > > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> > > > > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> > > > > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> > > > > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> > > > > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> > > > > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> > > > > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> > > > > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> > > > > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> > > > > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> > > > > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> > > > > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> > > > > > > >> the medieval red walls.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> > > > > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> > > > > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> > > > > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> > > > > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> > > > > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> > > > > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> > > > > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> > > > > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> > > > > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> > > > > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> > > > > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> > > > > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> > > > > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> > > > > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> > > > > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> > > > > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> > > > > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> > > > > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> > > > > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> > > > > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> > > > > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> > > > > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> > > > > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> > > > > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> > > > > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> > > > > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> > > > > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> > > > > > > >> into private accounts.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> > > > > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> > > > > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> > > > > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> > > > > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> > > > > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> > > > > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> > > > > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> > > > > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> > > > > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> > > > > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> > > > > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> > > > > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> > > > > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> > > > > > > >> all just cards to be played.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > > >>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > > > >> and challenge
> > > > > > > >>  the unchallengeable.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > > and challenge
> > > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > and challenge
> > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#876808

I would say by the 4th of July many of Putin's Generals and advisers
will be flying out the windows.


The Mafia doesn't say "You're Fired!"...they whack you out!






On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>...and while the two bulldogs are
>fighting under the rug...
>
>now it's a good time for
>the little people of Russia to
>arm themselves and take Putin out.
>
>dat wagner guy would forgive them.
>
>Now is the time to stick a
>water hose down Putin's throat
>while he is already drowning.
>
>finish him off..
> 
>
>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
>> "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".
>> 
>> Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"
>> 
>> and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"
>> 
>> Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."
>> 
>> Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"
>> 
>> two bulldogs under a rug....
>> 
>> who will come out..alive?
>> 
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >
>> > My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
>> > ...windows.
>> >
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >
>> > > if you people know anything about the mafia...
>> > > you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...
>> > >
>> > > EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!
>> > >
>> > > One of them has to die...soon.
>> > >
>> > > Which one is it going to be????
>> > >
>> > > (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)
>> > >
>> > > dis is not a game of chess..
>> > >
>> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I heard the FBI needs your help..
>> > > >
>> > > > they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?
>> > > >
>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
>> > > >
>> > > > looks a liitle familiar..
>> > > >
>> > > > there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02
>> > > >
>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
>> > > >
>> > > > i tink i know where dis guy lives..
>> > > >
>> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
>> > > > > purse snatcher Wagner.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > One of those two has to...die.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
>> > > > > Crime Families!)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It's Kill or be Killed.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
>> > > > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Mob Wars.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Looks to me..
>> > > > > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
>> > > > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > looks to me
>> > > > > > > he is going to vote himself in...
>> > > > > > > and knock off Putin.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Mob style.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > you gotta do it wit style.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
>> > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
>> > > > > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
>> > > > > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
>> > > > > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
>> > > > > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
>> > > > > > > >> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
>> > > > > > > >> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
>> > > > > > > >> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
>> > > > > > > >> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
>> > > > > > > >> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
>> > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
>> > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
>> > > > > > > >> underboss.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
>> > > > > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> By Garry Kasparov
>> > > > > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
>> > > > > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
>> > > > > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
>> > > > > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
>> > > > > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
>> > > > > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
>> > > > > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
>> > > > > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
>> > > > > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
>> > > > > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
>> > > > > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
>> > > > > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
>> > > > > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
>> > > > > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
>> > > > > > > >> the medieval red walls.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
>> > > > > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
>> > > > > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
>> > > > > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
>> > > > > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
>> > > > > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
>> > > > > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
>> > > > > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
>> > > > > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
>> > > > > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
>> > > > > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
>> > > > > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
>> > > > > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
>> > > > > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
>> > > > > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
>> > > > > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
>> > > > > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
>> > > > > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
>> > > > > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
>> > > > > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
>> > > > > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
>> > > > > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
>> > > > > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
>> > > > > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
>> > > > > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
>> > > > > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
>> > > > > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
>> > > > > > > >> into private accounts.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
>> > > > > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
>> > > > > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
>> > > > > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
>> > > > > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
>> > > > > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
>> > > > > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
>> > > > > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
>> > > > > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
>> > > > > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
>> > > > > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
>> > > > > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
>> > > > > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
>> > > > > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
>> > > > > > > >> all just cards to be played.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> --
>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> > > > > > > >>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> > > > > > > >> and challenge
>> > > > > > > >>  the unchallengeable.
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> > > > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>> > > > > > >  the unchallengeable.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> > > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> > > > > > and challenge
>> > > > > >  the unchallengeable.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> > > > > and challenge
>> > > > >  the unchallengeable.
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>> > > >  the unchallengeable.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> > > and challenge
>> > >  the unchallengeable.
>> >
>> > --
>> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> > and challenge
>> >  the unchallengeable.
>> 
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>>  the unchallengeable.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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