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  Where is the North Pole? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2019-02-07 10:31 -0800
    Re: Where is the North Pole? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 11:40 -0700
      Re: Where is the North Pole? Frank <"frank "@frank.net> - 2019-02-07 13:56 -0500
        Re: Where is the North Pole? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 12:28 -0700
        Re: Where is the North Pole? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-02-07 21:06 +0100
    Re: Where is the North Pole? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-07 10:53 -0800
      Re: Where is the North Pole? Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-19 11:40 -0600
        Re: Where is the North Pole? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 16:12 -0500
          Re: Where is the North Pole? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 14:21 -0700
      Re: Where is the North Pole? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-19 15:45 -0800
    Re: Where is the North Pole? "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-02-07 14:21 -0500
      Re: Where is the North Pole? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 12:30 -0700
    Re: Where is the North Pole? Ser Gregor Clegane <sergregor@lannistermail.raven> - 2019-02-07 14:59 -0500
      Re: Where is the North Pole? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 13:05 -0700
    Re: Where is the North Pole? Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2019-02-08 08:33 +1100
    Re: Where is the North Pole? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2019-02-12 09:48 -0500
      Re: Where is the North Pole? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-03-01 14:21 -0800
        Re: Where is the North Pole? SergIo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-04 12:22 -0600
          Re: Where is the North Pole? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 13:42 -0800
            Re: Where is the North Pole? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-04 15:41 -0800
              Re: Where is the North Pole? SergIo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-04 18:22 -0600
              Re: Where is the North Pole? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 20:09 -0500
                Re: Where is the North Pole? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-03-04 19:46 -0800
            Re: Where is the North Pole? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-03-04 20:06 -0500
    Re: Where is the North Pole? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-12 13:25 -0800
    Re: Where is the North Pole? casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2019-02-19 12:25 -0500
      Re: Where is the North Pole? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 10:36 -0700
      Re: Where is the North Pole? casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2019-02-19 12:59 -0500
      Re: Where is the North Pole? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-02-24 17:01 +0100
    Re: Where is the North Pole? casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2019-02-22 17:25 -0500
    Re: Where is the North Pole?   Queen Elizabeth Islands, BATHURST tesla sTinker <truecatholicstaff@truecarpentry.org> - 2019-02-23 18:11 -0800
      Re: Where is the North Pole? Queen Elizabeth Islands, BATHURST benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-23 22:54 -0500
        Re: Where is the North Pole? Queen Elizabeth Islands, BATHURST Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-24 11:39 -0600
      Re: Where is the North Pole?   Queen Elizabeth Islands, BATHURST casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2019-02-24 09:25 -0500
    Re: Where is the North Pole? sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2019-02-27 06:43 -0800
      Re: Where is the North Pole? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2019-02-27 10:47 -0800
      Re: Where is the North Pole? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-27 17:49 -0500
        Re: Where is the North Pole? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2019-02-27 22:05 -0800

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#730401

On 3/4/2019 5:41 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 3/4/2019 1:42 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Monday, March 4, 2019 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-8, SergIo wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2019 4:21 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 6:48:22 AM UTC-8, Bast wrote:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's where Santa Claus lives.
>>>>
>>>> Its on top of the south Pole.Here is a kicker The North Pole is not
>>>> a continent.Bert
>>>>
>>>
>>> there is no globall worming at the north pole either.
>>
>> Tell that to the bear up there that could not walk on the ice(to thin)
>> Bert
>>
> 
> Was there a time in the Earth's history in which the polar ice caps were
> basically non-existent?

there are photos somewhere...

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#730421

On 3/4/2019 6:41 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 3/4/2019 1:42 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Monday, March 4, 2019 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-8, SergIo wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2019 4:21 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 6:48:22 AM UTC-8, Bast wrote:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's where Santa Claus lives.
>>>>
>>>> Its on top of the south Pole.Here is a kicker The North Pole is not 
>>>> a continent.Bert
>>>>
>>>
>>> there is no globall worming at the north pole either.
>>
>> Tell that to the bear up there that could not walk on the ice(to thin) 
>> Bert
>>
> 
> Was there a time in the Earth's history in which the polar ice caps were 
> basically non-existent?

Duh. Internet is your friend.  Not so long ago either.

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#730454

On 3/4/2019 5:09 PM, benj wrote:
> On 3/4/2019 6:41 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 3/4/2019 1:42 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>> On Monday, March 4, 2019 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-8, SergIo wrote:
>>>> On 3/1/2019 4:21 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 6:48:22 AM UTC-8, Bast wrote:
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's where Santa Claus lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its on top of the south Pole.Here is a kicker The North Pole is not 
>>>>> a continent.Bert
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> there is no globall worming at the north pole either.
>>>
>>> Tell that to the bear up there that could not walk on the ice(to 
>>> thin) Bert
>>>
>>
>> Was there a time in the Earth's history in which the polar ice caps 
>> were basically non-existent?
> 
> Duh. Internet is your friend.  Not so long ago either.

I totally failed at being a bit sarcastic: Sorry. Fwiw, I think deer 
crossed the land bridge between Russia and Alaska back in the day... ;)

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#730420

On 3/4/2019 4:42 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, March 4, 2019 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-8, SergIo wrote:
>> On 3/1/2019 4:21 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 6:48:22 AM UTC-8, Bast wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's where Santa Claus lives.
>>>
>>> Its on top of the south Pole.Here is a kicker The North Pole is not a continent.Bert
>>>
>>
>> there is no globall worming at the north pole either.
> 
> Tell that to the bear up there that could not walk on the ice(to thin) Bert
> 
Right Bert, the Northwest passage hs been Ice-free for years. Algore 
said so. You've been getting your science from idiot jounros again, Berto.

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#726926

On 2/7/2019 10:31 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
> 

Compass? Ahh, a pole shift... Damn...

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#728093

>Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?

It's actually over water ( frozen ).

It's the point where Polaris remains fixed ( nearly ),
 at the very top of the zenith.

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#728094

On 2019-02-19 10:25 a.m., casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
> 
>> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
> 
> It's actually over water ( frozen ).
> 
> It's the point where Polaris remains fixed ( nearly ),
>   at the very top of the zenith.
> 

it's next to santa clauses house

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#728099

PS - Polaris is currently about 3/4 degree from the celestial pole,
and moving very slowly to close the gap.

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#728945

casagiannoni@optonline.net amok-crossposted to 4 newsgroups
>> Where is the North Pole? […]
> 
> […]
> It's the point where Polaris remains fixed ( nearly ),
>  at the very top of the zenith.

There is no “top of the zenith”.  The zenith *is* defined as the *point* on
the *virtual* celestial sphere directly overhead the observer.  It is thus
different for every observer.

That is NOT in general the celestial North Pole and certainly NOT the North
Pole on the terrestrial surface.

Stop amok-crossposting.

F’up2 sci.astro.amateur

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#728761

More precisely, it is the point where the celesyial pole is at the
zenith or dirrectly overhead. The star Polaris is close, currently
being about 3/4 degree from the celestial pole, or about 1 1/2 the
width of either the Sun or Moon away, and is slowly closing the gap.

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#728889 — Re: Where is the North Pole? Queen Elizabeth Islands, BATHURST

According to national geographic,  the north pole, magnetic north, Where 
the compass marks it, was located in the Queen Elizabeth Islands, in the 
port of Bathurst Island, in the year 1965,  its just north of Prince of 
Wales Island,  It is east of Mt Michelson Alaska.  Which belongs to 
Canada.  Further on it moved north to ne some, but not to far..  I 
belive it is still in the
Queen Elizabeth Islands of Canada... Prior to this, it was in the Prince 
of Whales Island in the late 40s.  As far as the grid goes, where 
longitude latitude lines are, it the North Pole there, is in the middle 
of the Artic ocean.  The depth is 140000 feet, measured by Russian Otto 
Schmidt in 1937.  Richard E Byrd visited it 1926 by airplane, and Robert 
E Peary of the United States NAVY, BY SLED DOG TEAM, IN 1909.
There is not land.  It is ice.  And Ocean.  Most of these people were 
lucky to remain alive, as the Russian, drifted 9 months after flying 
there by plane.  And they were picked up  etc etc etc on the others,
Peary was found by ice breakers 43 years later.   I don't think he was 
presumed alive. It is neutral waters the grid marking of it, but it is 
not the real north pole,  Magnetic North would have to be the real North 
Pole.

On 2/7/2019 10:31 AM, The Starmaker scribbled:
> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?

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#728897 — Re: Where is the North Pole? Queen Elizabeth Islands, BATHURST

On 2/23/2019 9:11 PM, tesla sTinker wrote:
> According to national geographic,  the north pole, magnetic north, Where 
> the compass marks it, was located in the Queen Elizabeth Islands, in the 
> port of Bathurst Island, in the year 1965,  its just north of Prince of 
> Wales Island,  It is east of Mt Michelson Alaska.  Which belongs to 
> Canada.  Further on it moved north to ne some, but not to far..  I 
> belive it is still in the
> Queen Elizabeth Islands of Canada... Prior to this, it was in the Prince 
> of Whales Island in the late 40s.  As far as the grid goes, where 
> longitude latitude lines are, it the North Pole there, is in the middle 
> of the Artic ocean.  The depth is 140000 feet, measured by Russian Otto 
> Schmidt in 1937.  Richard E Byrd visited it 1926 by airplane, and Robert 
> E Peary of the United States NAVY, BY SLED DOG TEAM, IN 1909.
> There is not land.  It is ice.  And Ocean.  Most of these people were 
> lucky to remain alive, as the Russian, drifted 9 months after flying 
> there by plane.  And they were picked up  etc etc etc on the others,
> Peary was found by ice breakers 43 years later.   I don't think he was 
> presumed alive. It is neutral waters the grid marking of it, but it is 
> not the real north pole,  Magnetic North would have to be the real North 
> Pole.
> 
> On 2/7/2019 10:31 AM, The Starmaker scribbled:
>> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?

What the hell is this? The invasion of non-science liberals into a 
science newsgroup? What the hell does "real North Pole" mean? Babbling 
nonsense. Both the geometric and magnetic poles exist and are real. One 
relates to rotation and geometry of Earth and the other is variable 
electrical phenomena. Sorry geniuses, but reality is NOT created by your 
fantasies. Not to mention that Starfaker is as usual totally clueless of 
any reality.

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#728949 — Re: Where is the North Pole? Queen Elizabeth Islands, BATHURST

On 2/23/2019 9:54 PM, benj wrote:
> On 2/23/2019 9:11 PM, tesla sTinker wrote:
>> According to national geographic,  the north pole, magnetic north,
>> Where the compass marks it, was located in the Queen Elizabeth
>> Islands, in the port of Bathurst Island, in the year 1965,  its just
>> north of Prince of Wales Island,  It is east of Mt Michelson Alaska. 
>> Which belongs to Canada.  Further on it moved north to ne some, but
>> not to far..  I belive it is still in the
>> Queen Elizabeth Islands of Canada... Prior to this, it was in the
>> Prince of Whales Island in the late 40s.  As far as the grid goes,
>> where longitude latitude lines are, it the North Pole there, is in the
>> middle of the Artic ocean.  The depth is 140000 feet, measured by
>> Russian Otto Schmidt in 1937.  Richard E Byrd visited it 1926 by
>> airplane, and Robert E Peary of the United States NAVY, BY SLED DOG
>> TEAM, IN 1909.
>> There is not land.  It is ice.  And Ocean.  Most of these people were
>> lucky to remain alive, as the Russian, drifted 9 months after flying
>> there by plane.  And they were picked up  etc etc etc on the others,
>> Peary was found by ice breakers 43 years later.   I don't think he was
>> presumed alive. It is neutral waters the grid marking of it, but it is
>> not the real north pole,  Magnetic North would have to be the real
>> North Pole.
>>
>> On 2/7/2019 10:31 AM, The Starmaker scribbled:
>>> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
> 
> What the hell is this? The invasion of non-science liberals into a
> science newsgroup? What the hell does "real North Pole" mean? Babbling
> nonsense. Both the geometric and magnetic poles exist and are real. One
> relates to rotation and geometry of Earth and the other is variable
> electrical phenomena. Sorry geniuses, but reality is NOT created by your
> fantasies. Not to mention that Starfaker is as usual totally clueless of
> any reality.


the real cause of the magnetic north pole drifting is.......

  =>  Climate Change (aka glowball worming)

drifty Starfarter is attracted to drifie Magnetic North pole

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#728942 — Re: Where is the North Pole? Queen Elizabeth Islands, BATHURST

Only a geometric definition makes any sense.

The pole is the location on the Earth surface, where the celestial
pole is at the zenith or directly overhead.

The star Polaris is close, currently being about 3/4 degree from the
celestial pole, or about 1.5 the apparent width, of either the Sun or
Moon away, and is slowly closing the gap.

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#729397

On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:30:00 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?

That's easy -- Start at the South Pole and bore straight down -- eventually one bores to the North Pole.

There's a book about all this stuff.
    https://xkcd.com/how-to/

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#729425

sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:30:00 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
> 
> That's easy -- Start at the South Pole and bore straight down -- eventually one bores to the North Pole.
> 
> There's a book about all this stuff.
>     https://xkcd.com/how-to/



so you're saying the south pole is up and the north pole is...down?

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#729478

On 2/27/2019 9:43 AM, sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:30:00 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
> 
> That's easy -- Start at the South Pole and bore straight down -- eventually one bores to the North Pole.
> 
> There's a book about all this stuff.
>      https://xkcd.com/how-to/
> 
Starfaker lives at the Left Pole. You can tell when you are there 
because all directions lead to the alt right!

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#729562

benj wrote:
> 
> On 2/27/2019 9:43 AM, sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:30:00 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Where is the North Pole? Is it in Alaska, Russia or Afganastan?
> >
> > That's easy -- Start at the South Pole and bore straight down -- eventually one bores to the North Pole.
> >
> > There's a book about all this stuff.
> >      https://xkcd.com/how-to/
> >
> Starfaker lives at the Left Pole. You can tell when you are there
> because all directions lead to the alt right!


dis in not alt.phyolotics

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