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No evidence of WIMPs- again

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2019-01-25 07:42 -0800
Last post2019-01-27 17:03 -0800
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  No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 07:42 -0800
    Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 23:27 +0000
      Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 16:51 -0800
        Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 01:05 +0000
          Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 18:07 -0800
            Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 14:15 +0000
            Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-27 17:36 +0000
          Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 22:32 -0500
            Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 14:27 +0000
              Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 09:06 -0800
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-27 17:45 +0000
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 19:06 +0000
              Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-28 19:16 -0500
                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 01:47 +0000
                  Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 04:26 -0500
                    Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 13:48 +0000
                      Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 13:46 -0500
                        Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 14:27 -0800
                          Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 22:58 +0000
                            Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-29 21:34 -0800
                              Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 14:30 +0000
                                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 08:31 -0800
                                  Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 17:19 +0000
                                    Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 09:24 -0800
                                      Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 17:50 +0000
                                      Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 14:47 -0500
                                    Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 12:48 -0500
                                      Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 17:52 +0000
                                        Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 14:50 -0500
                                          Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-30 15:30 -0800
                                            Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 03:00 -0800
                                              Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-31 18:22 -0800
                                                Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 18:43 -0800
                                                  Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-31 20:45 -0800
                                                    Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 21:07 -0800
                                                      Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-31 21:26 -0800
    Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-26 16:15 -0800
    Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2019-01-27 15:49 -0800
      Re: No evidence of WIMPs- again mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-27 17:03 -0800

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#725185

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-30 14:30 +0000
Message-ID<q2scdd$qp1$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#725151
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “So you don’t know anything about configuration energy, John? ”
> Tell me another fantasy. I can hardly wait.
> 

I love this. This is high school physics and you call it fantasy! Anything
above a third grade level is fantasy to you. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#725202

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-30 08:31 -0800
Message-ID<ce881517-f86f-4c79-a517-0f9dabdd5a8f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725185
Odd
“This is high school physics and you call it fantasy! Anything ”
I love how you make a statement and then refuse to back it up.
High school physics is a long time ago- there are lots of parts of it that are now falsified by observations- like the nature of ‘black holes’, for one.
I know you won’t explain your bizarre beliefs, so I’ll just say that every effect needs a palpable cause and if you can’t palp it, you’re just missing something

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#725208

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-30 17:19 +0000
Message-ID<q2smau$gmn$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#725202
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “This is high school physics and you call it fantasy! Anything ”
> I love how you make a statement and then refuse to back it up.
> High school physics is a long time ago- there are lots of parts of it
> that are now falsified by observations- like the nature of ‘black holes’, for one.

As far as I know black holes are not part of high school physics.
Conservation of energy however is high school physics and is still one of
the pillars of current physics. And you know nothing about it and are
suggesting that it’s either fantasy or now proven wrong. 

> 
> I know you won’t explain your bizarre beliefs, so I’ll just say that
> every effect needs a palpable cause and if you can’t palp it, you’re just missing something
> 

Palpable meaning able to be detected by bare senses? Is that what you
believe? That everything that happens has caused we can detect with our
bare senses?


-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#725209

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-30 09:24 -0800
Message-ID<053bef39-ebc6-49b2-93b7-01c686bc548c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725208
Odd
“Palpable meaning able to be detected by bare senses? Is that what you 
believe? “
You’re SO literal for a guy that can’t explain anything he believes in words
LMAO

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#725214

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-30 17:50 +0000
Message-ID<q2so5h$pbp$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#725209
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Palpable meaning able to be detected by bare senses? Is that what you 
> believe? “
> You’re SO literal for a guy that can’t explain anything he believes in words
> LMAO
> 

Ok so that’s not what you meant. So what do you mean by palpable cause? 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#725230

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-30 14:47 -0500
Message-ID<q2sv01$1pp3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#725209
On 1/30/2019 12:24 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> “Palpable meaning able to be detected by bare senses? Is that what you
> believe? “
> You’re SO literal for a guy that can’t explain anything he believes in words
> LMAO
> 
You've got Odd pegged exactly right. He thinks science is all about 
playing games with words and then when you ask for logical explanation 
using words, he just babbles about go read a text book. You got him, John!

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#725213

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-30 12:48 -0500
Message-ID<q2so1s$olv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#725208
On 1/30/2019 12:19 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Odd
>> “This is high school physics and you call it fantasy! Anything ”
>> I love how you make a statement and then refuse to back it up.
>> High school physics is a long time ago- there are lots of parts of it
>> that are now falsified by observations- like the nature of ‘black holes’, for one.
> 
> As far as I know black holes are not part of high school physics.
> Conservation of energy however is high school physics and is still one of
> the pillars of current physics. And you know nothing about it and are
> suggesting that it’s either fantasy or now proven wrong.

That is classical physics and classical physics is known to be wrong, 
dimwit.

>> I know you won’t explain your bizarre beliefs, so I’ll just say that
>> every effect needs a palpable cause and if you can’t palp it, you’re just missing something
>>
> 
> Palpable meaning able to be detected by bare senses? Is that what you
> believe? That everything that happens has caused we can detect with our
> bare senses?

Odd, is back to playing word games again. He thinks science is all about 
being on the debating team.

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#725217

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-30 17:52 +0000
Message-ID<q2so8b$prv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#725213
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/30/2019 12:19 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Odd
>>> “This is high school physics and you call it fantasy! Anything ”
>>> I love how you make a statement and then refuse to back it up.
>>> High school physics is a long time ago- there are lots of parts of it
>>> that are now falsified by observations- like the nature of ‘black holes’, for one.
>> 
>> As far as I know black holes are not part of high school physics.
>> Conservation of energy however is high school physics and is still one of
>> the pillars of current physics. And you know nothing about it and are
>> suggesting that it’s either fantasy or now proven wrong.
> 
> That is classical physics and classical physics is known to be wrong, 
> dimwit.

Conservation of energy still holds in modern physics, Ben. Catch up. 

> 
>>> I know you won’t explain your bizarre beliefs, so I’ll just say that
>>> every effect needs a palpable cause and if you can’t palp it, you’re
>>> just missing something
>>> 
>> 
>> Palpable meaning able to be detected by bare senses? Is that what you
>> believe? That everything that happens has caused we can detect with our
>> bare senses?
> 
> Odd, is back to playing word games again. He thinks science is all about 
> being on the debating team.
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#725231

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-30 14:50 -0500
Message-ID<q2sv67$1pp3$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#725217
On 1/30/2019 12:52 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 1/30/2019 12:19 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Odd
>>>> “This is high school physics and you call it fantasy! Anything ”
>>>> I love how you make a statement and then refuse to back it up.
>>>> High school physics is a long time ago- there are lots of parts of it
>>>> that are now falsified by observations- like the nature of ‘black holes’, for one.
>>>
>>> As far as I know black holes are not part of high school physics.
>>> Conservation of energy however is high school physics and is still one of
>>> the pillars of current physics. And you know nothing about it and are
>>> suggesting that it’s either fantasy or now proven wrong.
>>
>> That is classical physics and classical physics is known to be wrong,
>> dimwit.
> 
> Conservation of energy still holds in modern physics, Ben. Catch up.

Why do the people who know the least always think that everyone else is 
stupid?

>>>> I know you won’t explain your bizarre beliefs, so I’ll just say that
>>>> every effect needs a palpable cause and if you can’t palp it, you’re
>>>> just missing something
>>>>
>>>
>>> Palpable meaning able to be detected by bare senses? Is that what you
>>> believe? That everything that happens has caused we can detect with our
>>> bare senses?
>>
>> Odd, is back to playing word games again. He thinks science is all about
>> being on the debating team.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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#725263

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2019-01-30 15:30 -0800
Message-ID<0bbfc9db-595d-49db-a906-9a71b05e3dbd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725231
On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 11:50:36 AM UTC-8, benj wrote:

> Why do the people who know the least always think that everyone else is 
> stupid?

Good question, Ben.. so, why do you always think that everyone else is stupid?

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#725326

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-31 03:00 -0800
Message-ID<a9a4e071-02a4-4c00-b34b-fab78a3d36a4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725263
pnal
“Good question, Ben.. so, why do you always think that everyone else is stupid? ”
People who still are desperately believing that Dark Matte will save their crazy Suck Gravity are obviously stupid.
That’s YOU, penal!!
They call him Penal the Sheep
:)

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#725434

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2019-01-31 18:22 -0800
Message-ID<a2ae7cda-4183-4903-a65d-fb2431812e62@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725326
On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 3:00:58 AM UTC-8, john wrote:
> pnal
> “Good question, Ben.. so, why do you always think that everyone else is stupid? ”
> People who still are desperately believing that Dark Matte will save their crazy Suck Gravity are obviously stupid.
> That’s YOU, penal!!
> They call him Penal the Sheep
> :)

... this from John, who cannot provide a single shred of evidence to support his ill-favored  "suck gravity" fantasy. Got evidence, John? Got any advocates, John? Benj thinks you are smarter than Odd, John, do you think Benj supports Suck Gravity, too?

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#725440

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-31 18:43 -0800
Message-ID<f6bd87bd-f8f3-42cd-9262-70992d9dc0a7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725434
pnal
“this from John, who cannot provide a single shred of evidence to support his ill-favored  "suck gravity" fantasy. Got evidence, John? Got any advocates, John? Benj thinks you are smarter than Odd, John, do you think Benj supports Suck Gravity, too? ”
Pnal, you goof!
YOU guys support ‘Suck Gravity’. AYE support PUSH gravity. Nothing like a confused sheep. aaaB?

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#725466

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2019-01-31 20:45 -0800
Message-ID<f00f2538-1cbe-47dc-a7a6-85c35e90c68f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725440
On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:43:20 PM UTC-8, john wrote:
> pnal
> “this from John, who cannot provide a single shred of evidence to support his ill-favored  "suck gravity" fantasy. Got evidence, John? Got any advocates, John? Benj thinks you are smarter than Odd, John, do you think Benj supports Suck Gravity, too? ”
> Pnal, you goof!
> YOU guys support ‘Suck Gravity’. AYE support PUSH gravity. Nothing like a confused sheep. aaaB?

But, John, there is tons and tons of evidence/observations supporting suck gravity, whereas there is nothing whatsoever to support push gravity... unless you have been holding out on us. you have evidence to provide, John? You keep ducking and weaving, but you never even attempt to land a punch. Going into a clinch every time you face adversity never wins a fight. Let's see your Big Guns, John, if you have any.

About us 'sheep', John...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-9-3DtUzug

... you are the world's worst sheepdog...

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#725469

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-31 21:07 -0800
Message-ID<a9b70a2c-68c8-4d83-9d73-7714ba8e6269@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725466
Pnal
“John, there is tons and tons of evidence/observations supporting suck gravity, whereas there is nothing whatsoever to support push gravity.”
Asymmetrical galactic rotation curves, when they were observed, were OBVIOUSLY evidence that disproved your ‘Suck gravity’. But idiots will be idiots, and someone said, “Hey, what if there’s ‘invisible heavy stuff’ “, and I laughed and laughed, because I never dreamed anyone could be stupid enough to buy THAT one.

But you did.

“Baaa!” You all said.

And I went, “Doh!!”

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#725471

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2019-01-31 21:26 -0800
Message-ID<37ac5cff-b84c-4ab9-9e8b-e4e0cc894946@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725469
On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 9:07:59 PM UTC-8, john wrote:
> Pnal
> “John, there is tons and tons of evidence/observations supporting suck gravity, whereas there is nothing whatsoever to support push gravity.”

> Asymmetrical galactic rotation curves, when they were observed, were OBVIOUSLY evidence that disproved your ‘Suck gravity’.

No, John, there is no evidence to support that claim. You have just made that up, no references to supply at all... just saying "OBVIOUSLY" is not evidence.

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#724770

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2019-01-26 16:15 -0800
Message-ID<fda177f6-ad35-4c11-b6e5-ad7791c253bf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#724605
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 7:42:36 AM UTC-8, john wrote:
> https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/17999/20190123/new-detector-fails-confirm-evidence-dark-matter.htm
> 
> Give it up, guys.
> Ya got gravity backwards.
> All matter pushes on all matter- long range pull is not possible and not logical

If it dominates the entire universe there is a problem of
how it could separate out from a Big Beginning's mutual 
togetherness of gravity.

You would expect it to be with the entire universe that
it dominates but it is not found on Earth...??? 

It should even be inside of stars and atoms waiting to
become planets and everything else.

God creates gravity. Eternally.


Mitchell Raemsch

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#724869

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2019-01-27 15:49 -0800
Message-ID<5C4E4383.4E37@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#724605
john wrote:
> 
> https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/17999/20190123/new-detector-fails-confirm-evidence-dark-matter.htm
> 
> Give it up, guys.
> Ya got gravity backwards.
> All matter pushes on all matter- long range pull is not possible and not logical




there is something that pulls the galaxies together...and at the same time spreads out the universe....it's called, Gravity.

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#724871

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2019-01-27 17:03 -0800
Message-ID<5d51ea0e-9fb8-4a7c-ba74-3dc229fde139@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#724869
On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 3:47:25 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> john wrote:
> > 
> > https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/17999/20190123/new-detector-fails-confirm-evidence-dark-matter.htm
> > 
> > Give it up, guys.
> > Ya got gravity backwards.
> > All matter pushes on all matter- long range pull is not possible and not logical
> 
> 
> 
> 
> there is something that pulls the galaxies together...and at the same time spreads out the universe....it's called, Gravity.

By what gravity?
No. Galaxies are already together by their own central gravity.
Gravity does not expand the universe...
That is the hypersphere and not in time.

God creates gravity. Eternally.

Mitchell Raemsch

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