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--- Fake or real? --- Mikoyan's MiG-29 OVT Demo

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First post2019-01-24 15:32 -0800
Last post2019-01-27 21:01 -0800
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  --- Fake or real?  ---  Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2019-01-24 15:32 -0800
    Re: --- Fake or real?  ---  Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2019-01-24 21:33 -0800
      Re: --- Fake or real?  ---  Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2019-01-25 23:50 -0800
        Re: --- Fake or real?  ---  Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2019-01-26 19:49 -0800
          Re: --- Fake or real?  ---  Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2019-01-27 15:46 -0800
            Re: --- Fake or real?  ---  Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2019-01-27 16:12 -0800
    Re: --- Fake or real?  ---  Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 17:50 -0800
      Re: --- Fake or real?  ---  Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2019-01-27 21:01 -0800

#724577 — --- Fake or real? --- Mikoyan's MiG-29 OVT Demo

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2019-01-24 15:32 -0800
Subject--- Fake or real? --- Mikoyan's MiG-29 OVT Demo
Message-ID<q2dhv0$r9l$1@dont-email.me>
Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo -- Fake or real?  
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0

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#724591

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2019-01-24 21:33 -0800
Message-ID<5C4A9F92.1255@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#724577
hanson wrote:
> 
> Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo -- Fake or real?
> >
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0


fake.

fake shadows

fake background

fake
fake
fake.

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#724706

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2019-01-25 23:50 -0800
Message-ID<5C4C115E.33A9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#724591
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> hanson wrote:
> >
> > Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo -- Fake or real?
> > >
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0
> 
> fake.
> 
> fake shadows
> 
> fake background
> 
> fake
> fake
> fake.
> 
sooo fake it's fake.

the shadows
turn into
black ghost.

the foreground background look like still shots.

why ask if it's fake or real?

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#724790

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2019-01-26 19:49 -0800
Message-ID<q2j9ol$qh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#724706
"The StarFaker" <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> hanson wrote:
>> Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo -- Fake or real?
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0
> 
> 
StarFaker yodeled:
> fake.
> fake shadows
> fake background
> fake fake fake.
> 
> sooo fake it's fake.
> the shadows turn into black ghost.
> the foreground background look like still shots.
> why ask if it's fake or real?
> 
hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha.. So, these concurrent ones below,
at that air-show are then also fakes?
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSySd3jpv-g
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdVJPZAKAQE

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#724868

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2019-01-27 15:46 -0800
Message-ID<5C4E42D0.55F3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#724790
hanson wrote:
> 
> "The StarFaker" <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > hanson wrote:
> >> Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo -- Fake or real?
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0
> >
> >
> StarFaker yodeled:
> > fake.
> > fake shadows
> > fake background
> > fake fake fake.
> >
> > sooo fake it's fake.
> > the shadows turn into black ghost.
> > the foreground background look like still shots.
> > why ask if it's fake or real?
> >
> hanson wrote:
> ... ahahahaha.. So, these concurrent ones below,
> at that air-show are then also fakes?
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSySd3jpv-g
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdVJPZAKAQE


It's fake!

Here's the proof...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSySd3jpv-g
Look at the frame
1:22
2:25
5:17

the guy on the left standing has not budge an inch...it's a still photo shot.

(you know, green screen bg)

same a first video you posted.


The third video you posted there is no spectacular manuvering going on..

coasting on a runnaway any plane can do and
turning upside down any plane can do.

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#724870

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2019-01-27 16:12 -0800
Message-ID<q2lhf0$r0o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#724868
"The Starmaker" <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> hanson wrote:
>> 
>> "The StarFaker" <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > hanson wrote:
>> >> Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo -- Fake or real?
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0
>> >
>> >
>> StarFaker yodeled:
>> > fake.
>> > fake shadows
>> > fake background
>> > fake fake fake.
>> >
>> > sooo fake it's fake.
>> > the shadows turn into black ghost.
>> > the foreground background look like still shots.
>> > why ask if it's fake or real?
>> >
>> hanson wrote:
>> ... ahahahaha.. So, these concurrent ones below,
>> at that air-show are then also fakes?
>> >
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSySd3jpv-g
>> >
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdVJPZAKAQE
>
>
"The StarFaker" kept on yodeling: 
> It's fake!
> Here's the proof... [snip yodeling]
> The third video you posted there is no spectacular manuvering going on..
> 
hanson wrote:
Indeed, in the 3rd video, the what, how and why of the 
"spectacular maneuvering going on" is explained to you, 
42 sec into the clip, by the Flight instructor Pavel....Duh!
Thanks for playing and keep on yodeling that it's fake. LOL

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#724880

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-27 17:50 -0800
Message-ID<51ac3ac0-80f7-4f98-8959-b390a850b028@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#724577
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 6:32:52 PM UTC-5, hanson wrote:
> Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo -- Fake or real?  
> >
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0

Simulated, as described:
"Filmed action from the Aerofly RC 8 flight simulator.
...
The realism of the flight model is amazing as is the graphics."

So it is a real simulation, but actually a little boring.
ed

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#724920

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2019-01-27 21:01 -0800
Message-ID<q2m2c2$82d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#724880
"Edward Prochak" <edprochak@gmail.com> wrote:
 hanson wrote:
>> Mikoyan's  MiG-29 OVT Demo -- Fake or real?  
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0
> 
Prochakoff wrote:
> Simulated, as described:
> "Filmed action from the Aerofly RC 8 flight simulator.
> The realism of the flight model is amazing as is the graphics."
> So it is a real simulation, but actually a little boring.
> ed
>
hanson wrote:
Semantics rule, especially when potential Sales of a few 
$Billions are at stake. So, one takes "GRAPHIC" measures:
In <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdVJPZAKAQE>
Flight instructor Pavel explains the what, how and why 
of the "GRAPHIC" (spectacular) maneuvering that is going on.

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