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The Origin of Gravity

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First post2018-05-19 23:43 -0700
Last post2018-05-31 10:44 -0700
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  The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-19 23:43 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 14:28 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 18:01 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 14:11 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 05:07 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 12:45 +0000
              Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 06:31 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 13:39 +0000
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:49 -0400
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 15:19 +0000
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:52 -0400
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 21:58 +0000
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 20:56 -0400
    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 17:57 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 19:13 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 01:55 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 01:31 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 10:26 +0100
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 04:40 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 14:23 +0100
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 06:58 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:32 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:54 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:30 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:54 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 16:52 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:40 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:49 -0400
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:56 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:55 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-29 20:13 +0200
      Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 23:52 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 17:21 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:17 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:34 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 18:20 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 13:32 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:18 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 15:48 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 15:54 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 20:23 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 20:27 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 06:43 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 10:35 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 16:28 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 20:11 -0400
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 21:09 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 20:11 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 15:50 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-28 18:35 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:57 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 16:22 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-27 20:07 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 11:21 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 13:25 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 17:39 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:05 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 05:40 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 02:11 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 15:57 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:40 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-29 09:12 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:28 -0400
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 12:04 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 23:43 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 13:17 -0700
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:52 -0400
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 15:04 -0700
                          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:43 -0400
                            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 23:46 -0700
                              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 08:01 -0400
                                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:07 -0700
                                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 18:37 -0700
                                  Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-05 06:56 -0700
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-03 06:51 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 02:01 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 11:33 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 13:43 -0700
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 18:11 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:02 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
                    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
                      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
                        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-05-30 11:40 -0700
                  Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 20:35 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
            Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
              Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:37 -0700
                Time == Entropy. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 09:44 -0700
              Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:23 -0400
                Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 10:28 -0700
                  Re: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 19:59 -0400
    Re: The Origin of Gravity numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 11:46 -0700
    The Origin of Gravity sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 20:10 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 22:03 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:10 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-31 12:54 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:18 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-06-01 16:18 +1000
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Vaughn Fleck <guah@nhnw.nc> - 2018-06-01 20:00 +0000
            Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 21:06 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:07 -0400
      Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-31 10:44 -0700

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#687865

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-30 13:43 -0700
Message-ID<5B0F0CE6.6A82@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687828
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 9:39:47 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > benj wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>>> The problem with describing
> > > > > >>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> > > > > >>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> math won't do..
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> before the big bang...
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> stars in the universe were like..
> > > > > >>>> a dozen eggs.
> > > > > >>> [...]
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where did they come from?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I already mentioned in my class
> > > > > >> that before the big bang stars existed in
> > > > > >> the steady state universe.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> > > > > >> the steady state universe?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I don't have a photograph of that...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> i would have to look for it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The Starmaker
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > far beyond the steady stste universe...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and as close as the stem of an apple.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> > > > > >
> > > > > and the way you know all this is?
> > > >
> > > > When an apple is ripe it falls from a tree...and the law of gravity was discovered.
> > > >
> > > > I thought you girls knew this stuff.
> > >
> > >
> > > Once you understand that...that, gravity works in the smallest area of the ripeness of an apple.
> > ====================
> > ripples of an apple'' ?!!
> >
> > why do you stick here an apple
> > what is the connection between
> > ripples
> > and  curved motion ??
> 
> I wrote "ripeness", not 'ripples'. (and no mentioned of curve motion) (why do others see words that are not there????)
> 
> You can tell if an apple is ripe when it falls from a tree.
> 
> When the apple hit Newtons head, he mistakenly confused universal gravity with quantium gravity.
> 
> It is quantium gravity that is the force of nature to tell it when an apple is ripe.
> 
> It needs to fall at the ripe time...
> 
> It appears to me that nobody understands the theory of guantium gravity...
> 
> or how it works.
> 
> It's really simple...and so many people in the 'scientific community' seem to be mistaken about it...
> 
> When an apple falls from a tree at the very moment that it is ripe has nothing to do with the attraction of the stars and planets...
> 
> you need to take a closer look at the apple.
> 
> Without Gravity checking to see when the apple is ripe, it will get ...rotten.



In other words... the particles on a small scale 'obey' the laws of gravity. 

One must remember that a particle inside an apple views an apple the size of the earth, relativity speaking.

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#687888

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-05-30 18:11 -0700
Message-ID<eb41ee3e-acff-4d20-b9bb-c5178009adc8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687828
On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 9:33:09 PM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> poraty149@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > ipe.
> 
> It needs to fall at the ripe time...
> 
> 
> It appears to me that nobody understands the theory of guantium gravity...
> 
> 
> or how it works. 
> 
> 
> It's really simple...and so many people in the 'scientific community' seem to be mistaken about it...
> 
> 
> When an apple falls from a tree at the very moment that it is ripe has nothing to do with the attraction of the stars and planets...
> 
> you need to take a closer look at the apple.
> 
> Without Gravity checking to see when the apple is ripe, it will get ...rotten.
> 
> I mean, ...I thought you girls knew this stuff? You don't actually believe I make all this stuff, do you????
> 
> 
> I mean, it's not my fault that the proffesors in your colleges are...stupid.
===============================
(:-)

??????
until now I heard from you words
that sound more like poetry
not science !!
on the other hand 
while  clam
that*** mass*** is the creator of all forces
including gravity
it sounds more like physics not poetry 
TIA
Y.Porat
====================== 

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#687597

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-05-28 21:02 -0700
Message-ID<510121bf-7598-465c-9d08-17dfe7ac06fb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687522
On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 9:54:29 PM UTC+3, benj wrote:
> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> The problem with describing
> >>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>
> >>>> math won't do..
> >>>>
> >>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>
> >>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>
> >>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>> [...]
> >>>
> >>> Where did they come from?
> >>
> >> I already mentioned in my class
> >> that before the big bang stars existed in
> >> the steady state universe.
> >>
> >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> >> the steady state universe?
> >>
> >> I don't have a photograph of that...
> >>
> >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> >>
> >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> >>
> >> i would have to look for it.
> >>
> >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> >>
> >> The Starmaker
> > 
> > 
> > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> > 
> > far beyond the steady stste universe...
> > 
> > and as close as the stem of an apple.
> > 
> > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> > 
> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN 
> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> 
> Faker you are STILL a moron. Lay off the stash for a while, OK?
=========================
how long will it take to enter it to your 
parroting blockheads :

========================================
MASS (YES MASS) IS THE CREATOR OF ALL FORCES
INCLUDING GRAVITYY !!

no need to be a genius in order to 
at last understand it 
2

stick it to your blockheads !!
==============
Y.Porat
=======================

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#687786

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
Message-ID<5B0E5D1D.7151@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687522
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> The problem with describing
> >>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>
> >>>> math won't do..
> >>>>
> >>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>
> >>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>
> >>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>> [...]
> >>>
> >>> Where did they come from?
> >>
> >> I already mentioned in my class
> >> that before the big bang stars existed in
> >> the steady state universe.
> >>
> >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> >> the steady state universe?
> >>
> >> I don't have a photograph of that...
> >>
> >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> >>
> >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> >>
> >> i would have to look for it.
> >>
> >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> >>
> >> The Starmaker
> >
> >
> > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> >
> > far beyond the steady stste universe...
> >
> > and as close as the stem of an apple.
> >
> > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> >
> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> 
> Faker you are STILL a moron. 


Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?

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#687804

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
Message-ID<OgyPC.131000$R51.73726@fx03.iad>
In reply to#687786
On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did they come from?
>>>>
>>>> I already mentioned in my class
>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
>>>> the steady state universe.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
>>>> the steady state universe?
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
>>>>
>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
>>>>
>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
>>>>
>>>> i would have to look for it.
>>>>
>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker
>>>
>>>
>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
>>>
>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
>>>
>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
>>>
>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
>>>
>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
>>
>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> 
> 
> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> 
The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of 
your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day 
reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see 
that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!

You get it yet?

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#687818

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
Message-ID<5B0EDF0B.1A58@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687804
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>>>> [...]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where did they come from?
> >>>>
> >>>> I already mentioned in my class
> >>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
> >>>> the steady state universe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> >>>> the steady state universe?
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
> >>>>
> >>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> >>>>
> >>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> >>>>
> >>>> i would have to look for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> >>>>
> >>>> The Starmaker
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> >>>
> >>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> >>>
> >>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> >>>
> >>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> >>>
> >> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> >> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> >>
> >> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> >
> >
> > Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> >
> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of

"us"???? is that like a me, myself and i??? 

> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see

"We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee? 

"Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...


maybe you didn't see the word..."you".


'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'




> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
> 
> You get it yet?


My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.



Get it?


Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...

on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...

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#687833

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
Message-ID<wqCPC.36996$Kp4.9436@fx43.iad>
In reply to#687818
On 5/30/2018 1:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where did they come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already mentioned in my class
>>>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
>>>>>> the steady state universe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
>>>>>> the steady state universe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i would have to look for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starmaker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
>>>>>
>>>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
>>>>>
>>>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
>>>>>
>>>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
>>>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
>>>>
>>>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
>>>
>> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of
> 
> "us"???? is that like a me, myself and i???
> 
>> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
>> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see
> 
> "We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee?
> 
> "Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...
> 
> 
> maybe you didn't see the word..."you".
> 
> 
> 'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
>>
>> You get it yet?
> 
> 
> My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.
> 
> 
> 
> Get it?
> 
> 
> Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...
> 
> on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...
> 
<sigh>
PLonk.

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#688072

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
Message-ID<5B11059B.703A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687833
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/30/2018 1:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> benj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Where did they come from?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I already mentioned in my class
> >>>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
> >>>>>> the steady state universe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> >>>>>> the steady state universe?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> i would have to look for it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Starmaker
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> >>>>>
> >>>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> >>>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> >>>>
> >>>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> >>>
> >> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of
> >
> > "us"???? is that like a me, myself and i???
> >
> >> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
> >> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see
> >
> > "We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee?
> >
> > "Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...
> >
> >
> > maybe you didn't see the word..."you".
> >
> >
> > 'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
> >>
> >> You get it yet?
> >
> >
> > My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Get it?
> >
> >
> > Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...
> >
> > on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...
> >
> <sigh>
> PLonk.


Oh, that's real deep..

you're like those talking animals...ants.


<sigh>
PLonk.


that's ant talk, isn't it.


Tell me, do ants do Science?

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#688150

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
Message-ID<5B11B5CA.41FD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#688072
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> benj wrote:
> >
> > On 5/30/2018 1:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > benj wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>> benj wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> > >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> > >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> before the big bang...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> > >>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> > >>>>>>> [...]
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Where did they come from?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I already mentioned in my class
> > >>>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
> > >>>>>> the steady state universe.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> > >>>>>> the steady state universe?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> i would have to look for it.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The Starmaker
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> > >>>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> > >>>
> > >> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of
> > >
> > > "us"???? is that like a me, myself and i???
> > >
> > >> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
> > >> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see
> > >
> > > "We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee?
> > >
> > > "Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...
> > >
> > >
> > > maybe you didn't see the word..."you".
> > >
> > >
> > > 'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
> > >>
> > >> You get it yet?
> > >
> > >
> > > My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Get it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...
> > >
> > > on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...
> > >
> > <sigh>
> > PLonk.
> 
> Oh, that's real deep..
> 
> you're like those talking animals...ants.
> 
> <sigh>
> PLonk.
> 
> that's ant talk, isn't it.
> 
> Tell me, do ants do Science?


Of course the ants look at us and wonder what do the sounds we makes means...


has anybody bothered to decode ant language? They talk to each other everyday...

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#688164

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
Message-ID<5B11C5BB.7E2D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#688150
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > benj wrote:
> > >
> > > On 5/30/2018 1:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > benj wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>> benj wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> > > >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> > > >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> before the big bang...
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> > > >>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> > > >>>>>>> [...]
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Where did they come from?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I already mentioned in my class
> > > >>>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
> > > >>>>>> the steady state universe.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
> > > >>>>>> the steady state universe?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i would have to look for it.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The Starmaker
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
> > > >>>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> > > >>>
> > > >> The "value" dear faker is for us to goad you into an understanding of
> > > >
> > > > "us"???? is that like a me, myself and i???
> > > >
> > > >> your own ignorance. If you constantly live in a fantasy world, one day
> > > >> reality will bite you on the ass. We love ya, man. We don't want to see
> > > >
> > > > "We"??? Is there like a lot of voices in your head that sound like a room filled with people? Who is this...weeeeeeeee?
> > > >
> > > > "Us", "We"? Who are all these people you are refering to???? Only cowards use words like us and we...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > maybe you didn't see the word..."you".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 'What 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *Perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> that. As Dirty Harry says, a man just has to know his own limitations!
> > > >>
> > > >> You get it yet?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My limitations doesn't allow me the ability  to... get it yet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Get it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now, where was I before this stupid kid in class interupted me...
> > > >
> > > > on yes,  The Origin of Gravity...
> > > >
> > > <sigh>
> > > PLonk.
> >
> > Oh, that's real deep..
> >
> > you're like those talking animals...ants.
> >
> > <sigh>
> > PLonk.
> >
> > that's ant talk, isn't it.
> >
> > Tell me, do ants do Science?
> 
> Of course the ants look at us and wonder what do the sounds we makes means...
> 
> has anybody bothered to decode ant language? They talk to each other everyday...


anybody speak ant here?

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#687829

FromEarle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net>
Date2018-05-30 11:40 -0700
Message-ID<2018053011400737523-earlejones@comcastnet>
In reply to#687804
On 2018-05-30 14:09:36 +0000, benj said:

> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> benj wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> before the big bang...

*
If the concept of "space-time" began at the time of the big bang...
Then, the expression "before the big bang" has no meaning.

earle
*

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#687884

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-30 20:35 -0400
Message-ID<irHPC.153820$mS3.58493@fx04.iad>
In reply to#687829
On 5/30/2018 2:40 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
> On 2018-05-30 14:09:36 +0000, benj said:
> 
>> On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> before the big bang...
> 
> *
> If the concept of "space-time" began at the time of the big bang...
> Then, the expression "before the big bang" has no meaning.
> 
> earle
> *

Stop messing with Faker's mind. He's trying to have "deep thoughts" here!

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#688052

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
Message-ID<iD1QC.116995$%s2.33194@fx18.iad>
In reply to#687786
On 5/30/2018 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> The problem with describing
>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> math won't do..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> before the big bang...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did they come from?
>>>>
>>>> I already mentioned in my class
>>>> that before the big bang stars existed in
>>>> the steady state universe.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in
>>>> the steady state universe?
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a photograph of that...
>>>>
>>>> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang...
>>>>
>>>> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe...
>>>>
>>>> i would have to look for it.
>>>>
>>>> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born..
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker
>>>
>>>
>>> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
>>>
>>> far beyond the steady stste universe...
>>>
>>> and as close as the stem of an apple.
>>>
>>> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
>>>
>> and the way you know all this is?  Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN
>> beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind).
>>
>> Faker you are STILL a moron.
> 
> 
> Tell us, what 'value' is there - for you to have to -- *perpetually* insult the intelligence of others?
> 
So tell us faker, what value is there in you "Perpetually" posting the 
most ignorant of science ideas? The way to stop my "observations" would 
be for you to learn some actual science facts and post them instead. 
Even though Wormley regularly gets his ass handed to him here, he STILL 
knows more science in his little finger than you do in your whole body! 
And bingo, I no longer have to point out your lack of intelligence! (For 
me to "Insult your intelligence" implies that there would have to be 
some intelligence there for me to insult, right?)

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#687625

FromWhisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>
Date2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
Message-ID<JvydnSy0O7Lr2JDGnZ2dnUU7-VOdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#687519
On 29/05/2018 4:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
> 
> 
> Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang..
> 
> far beyond the steady stste universe...
> 
> and as close as the stem of an apple.
> 
> In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> 
>


You don't know what gravity is.  If you do please tell us.



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#687646 — Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
SubjectGravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--7.19am.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#687625
> > gravity is the machinery behind the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
> 
> You don't know what gravity is.  If you do please tell us.

13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
[ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]

Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
but none of the eXergy.

Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
  Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal, 
perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.

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#687655 — Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-29 08:37 -0700
SubjectGravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
Message-ID<82962802-a96b-4f62-adb2-599ec2e4a020@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687646
Jeff
“13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe 
was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy. ”
And what was in the other locations?

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#687665 — Time == Entropy.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-05-29 09:44 -0700
SubjectTime == Entropy.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--9.44am.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#687655
> > 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe 
> > was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
> 
> And what was in the other locations?

Nothing outside of the Big Bang affects us, so it doesn't matter.

At the very start, there was no entropy ( infinite eXergy/density ); 
and, because " Time == Entropy ", there was no time on the clock then.

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#687673 — Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-29 13:23 -0400
SubjectRe: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
Message-ID<t0gPC.226091$Hv4.28227@fx39.iad>
In reply to#687646
On 5/29/2018 10:19 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>> gravity is the machinery behind the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
>>
>> You don't know what gravity is.  If you do please tell us.
> 
> 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
> was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
> [ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]
> 
> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> but none of the eXergy.
> 
> Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
> 
> All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
>    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
> 
> General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal,
> perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.
> 
Rolf, Big Bang is Bogus. Just keep repeating your theories, Rolf and who 
knows? Eventually they may become correct?

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#687678 — Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-05-29 10:28 -0700
SubjectYour desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--10.28am.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#687673
Ben Jacoby wrote:
> Big Bang is Bogus.

What created us then, Ben ?

In the Garden of Eden story, "God" is the father, the parent;
and Adam, his child, had to leave when he discovered sex.

Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall.
Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate.

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#687745 — Re: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-29 19:59 -0400
SubjectRe: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall.
Message-ID<xPlPC.115991$np1.60407@fx06.iad>
In reply to#687678
On 5/29/2018 1:28 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Ben Jacoby wrote:
>> Big Bang is Bogus.
> 
> What created us then, Ben ?

And the reason you think there must be a "creation" or a
"beginning" is? You are just sure that the universe MUST work the way 
you tell it to. It doesn't have to.

> In the Garden of Eden story, "God" is the father, the parent;
> and Adam, his child, had to leave when he discovered sex.

The Story dear boy, is an allegory representing metaphysics WAY
beyond your understanding. You can't even handle physics fer crissake!

> Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall.
> Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate.

All human acts of creation are in imitation of the creative acts of 
"God, the Father". I am a creative person in a GREAT number of ways. 
You? Well. let's just say that porn and a rubber pussy never created 
life no matter what all those evolootionists who infest your neck of the 
woods tell you.

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