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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2018-05-20 23:08 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-06-01 22:14 -0700 |
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There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-20 23:08 -0700
Re: There is no future SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-05-21 20:30 +1000
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 09:18 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 11:40 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 08:36 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-22 13:24 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 13:49 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-22 22:31 -0400
Re: There is no future Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 03:12 +0000
The answer isn't meaningful to most people. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-22 23:34 -0700
Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:12 -0400
Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-05-23 16:54 +0000
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 23:12 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 10:55 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 10:59 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:56 -0400
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:55 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 14:59 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 23:19 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:10 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:38 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:56 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 10:45 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:30 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:17 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:46 -0400
Re: There is no future Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-26 09:56 +0000
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-26 11:45 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:48 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 17:47 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:43 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 07:03 -0400
Re: There is no future Vaughn Fleck <guah@nhnw.nc> - 2018-05-30 19:13 +0000
Re: There is no future HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-05-30 08:50 +1000
Re: There is no future HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-06-01 08:45 +1000
Re: There is no future Vaughn Fleck <guah@nhnw.nc> - 2018-06-01 19:58 +0000
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:48 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 07:08 -0400
Re: There is no future Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-30 03:46 -0600
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:10 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:22 -0700
Re: There is no future mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-03 13:32 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:40 -0400
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 16:04 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 13:35 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 16:53 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 14:56 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 20:21 -0400
Re: There is no future mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 14:14 -0700
There is no future sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:15 -0700
Re: There is no future "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-29 12:59 -0700
Re: There is no future mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 14:27 -0700
Re: There is no future KBH <emptypost@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-01 15:50 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 18:38 -0700
Re: There is no future KBH <emptypost@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-01 22:14 -0700
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-03 13:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B144E14.497@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #687609 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... > > > > > > the answer is simple, ...there is no future. > > you know...i'm a little uncertain about the future as most of yous > are... > > the question is...Is There a Future? > > I thought today was today but it's tommorow isn't it???? okay, I'll explain in a different way... no future no past you just have memories and dreams of the past and future. the past and future is all in your head. Now, ..i mean NOW the present.. the always present is made of of millions and billions and trillions of units yous call...events.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-06-03 13:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ad0cdaba-2db1-4110-82ae-e9aff6c308a3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #688517 |
On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 1:22:49 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... > > > > > > > > the answer is simple, ...there is no future. > > > > you know...i'm a little uncertain about the future as most of yous > > are... > > > > the question is...Is There a Future? > > > > I thought today was today but it's tommorow isn't it???? > > > okay, I'll explain in a different way... > > no future > no past > > you just have memories and > dreams of the past and future. > > the past and future is all in your head. > > > Now, ..i mean NOW > > the present.. > the always present > > is made of of > millions and billions > and trillions > of units > yous call...events. You mean instants make up moments right? Time can go by without events. Without change you have a fossil.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-04 17:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <QliRC.382344$nq5.275305@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #688521 |
On 6/3/2018 4:32 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 1:22:49 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future... >>>>> >>>>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future. >>> >>> you know...i'm a little uncertain about the future as most of yous >>> are... >>> >>> the question is...Is There a Future? >>> >>> I thought today was today but it's tommorow isn't it???? >> >> >> okay, I'll explain in a different way... >> >> no future >> no past >> >> you just have memories and >> dreams of the past and future. >> >> the past and future is all in your head. >> >> >> Now, ..i mean NOW >> >> the present.. >> the always present >> >> is made of of >> millions and billions >> and trillions >> of units >> yous call...events. > > > You mean instants make up moments right? > > Time can go by without events. > > Without change you have a fossil. > > Time creates the certainty of change. I should have known that faker's 'deep thoughts" would attract you like flies to a rotting ground hog. Mitch you are still a moron too!
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 16:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <KDFMC.138054$o43.27726@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #686491 |
On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> There is no future... >> or proof that a future exist. > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 13:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B032DA9.1DCD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #686531 |
benj wrote: > > On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> There is no future... > >> or proof that a future exist. > > > > > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > > > Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! > We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"! Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"!
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 16:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3lGMC.142422$nq5.125652@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #686544 |
On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > benj wrote: >> >> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> There is no future... >>>> or proof that a future exist. >>> >>> >>> >>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. >>> >>> >>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? >>> >> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! >> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"! > > > Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"! > Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there is going to be a future a moment from now. On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable" future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass. Starfaker you are still an idiot.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 14:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B034093.5699@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #686545 |
benj wrote: > > On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > benj wrote: > >> > >> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>> There is no future... > >>>> or proof that a future exist. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > >>> > >>> > >>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > >>> > >> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! > >> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"! > > > > > > Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"! > > > Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know > that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no > present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all > living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this > law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is > NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated > with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there > is going to be a future a moment from now. > > On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In > nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from > Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they > are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects > sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment > of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What > this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable" > future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking > experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass. > > Starfaker you are still an idiot. You make a great kindergaten teacher, you slap the kid on the head... let me know when you reached the future...
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 20:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <moJMC.154568$T14.15898@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #686553 |
On 5/21/2018 5:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > benj wrote: >> >> On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> benj wrote: >>>> >>>> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no future... >>>>>> or proof that a future exist. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? >>>>> >>>> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! >>>> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"! >>> >>> >>> Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"! >>> >> Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know >> that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no >> present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all >> living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this >> law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is >> NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated >> with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there >> is going to be a future a moment from now. >> >> On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In >> nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from >> Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they >> are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects >> sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment >> of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What >> this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable" >> future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking >> experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass. >> >> Starfaker you are still an idiot. > > > You make a great kindergaten teacher, you slap the kid on the head... Obviously not very effective in your case. > let me know when you reached the future... Depends if the future is really there to reach or not. I can't tell if it is. (Deep thoughts).
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-05-24 14:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <16230e51-a69b-4a4c-9b02-7406ec4a0dc7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #686455 |
On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 11:08:52 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > There is no future... > or proof that a future exist. It is yet to happen as the past has already happened...
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| From | sam.wormley@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-05-29 08:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bbb8e6c3-e86c-4f6b-9e2c-2b3b59a1a27c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #686455 |
Grasshopper. Guru Is this now? No, now. Now? No, now Now? No, now Now? No... See: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/World_line.svg
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-29 12:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pekbip$tlr$1@adenine.netfront.net> |
| In reply to | #687650 |
<sam.wormley@gmail.com>, the GR-Asshopper-Guru wrote: "Future"... Is this now? No, now. Now? No, now Now? No, now Now? No... since Physics Nobel laureate, Johannes Stark & Philipp Lenard began a core campaign to label Einstein's Relativity as **überspitzte Judenphysik**, whose candle went out long and whose legend never lived... except that it spawned hordes of irrational & stupidified Einstein Dingleberries > with <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery> wherein Albert confessed and said already long time ago: "In that case nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, my gravitation theory included." "If I had my life to live over again, I'd be a plumber".AE. > Only very stupid and geriatric kikes, such as cretin SwineBert Glazier, got stuck in that time of yore, yet TurdBert couldn't even cut it as a plumber, and instead Glazier, the Pig became a Face-shitter & .<http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal> > <snicker> <chuckle> <chortle> LOL ROTFLMAO .
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-05-30 14:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <06bc1fca-4e7f-4eb6-bce7-857b7aa029ba@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #686455 |
On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 11:08:52 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > There is no future... > or proof that a future exist. Maybe for you...
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| From | KBH <emptypost@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-01 15:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e1adf27c-6385-4f20-ac27-7d1c98d41f56@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #686455 |
Starmaker wrote: > There is no future... > or proof that a future exist. KBH: Science and nature are not synonyms. Science is a being's explanation of nature. Without the being there is no science but only nature. And now furthermore, there is no non-existence. Nature always exists in some form.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-01 18:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B11F527.3D58@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #688172 |
KBH wrote: > > Starmaker wrote: > > > There is no future... > > or proof that a future exist. > > KBH: > > Science and nature are not synonyms. Science is a being's explanation of nature. Without the being there is no science but only nature. > > And now furthermore, there is no non-existence. Nature always exists in some form. the word nature is just another word for...physics. sci.physics...means the same thing as the word nature. Are nature's laws written down somewhere???? Does nature calls itself...nature?
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| From | KBH <emptypost@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-01 22:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8a7126a6-cdd0-4fa3-9708-9d80de005b24@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #686455 |
Starmaker wrote: the word nature is just another word for...physics. sci.physics...means the same thing as the word nature. Are nature's laws written down somewhere???? Does nature calls itself...nature? KBH: Nature is simply existence. KBH previously: Science and nature are not synonyms. Science is a being's explanation of nature. Without the being there is no science but only nature. And now furthermore, there is no non-existence. Nature always exists in some form.
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