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  News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"// silly crash landing when it should be parked Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 21:18 -0700
    EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"// silly crash landing when it should be parked Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 01:47 -0700
      NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy" Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 01:55 -0700
        Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 02:07 -0700
          snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 22:18 -0700
            snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 18:13 -0700
              Re: snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 21:51 -0400
              Re: snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re:  Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for  hexagonal shape The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-02 12:29 -0700
                Re: snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re:   Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for   hexagonal shape The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-02 15:53 -0700
              Re: snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 15:55 -0700
                van der Waals force explains the Saturn hexagon pole & First Life in atmosphere Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 00:04 -0700
        Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy" "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 10:53 -0700
          Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy" "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-30 12:04 -0700
        Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy" "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 10:56 -0700
          Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy" "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-30 12:05 -0700
          Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-09-01 13:45 -0700

#647842 — News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"// silly crash landing when it should be parked

Now there is news tonight on BBC of the space probe Cassini as it is fated to crash into the Saturn atmosphere next month.

I plea with NASA to stop this silly nonsense of crashing spacecraft-- they think it sparks attention or have some stupid moral disguise that of not contaminating planets. All stupid ideas.

What these spacecraft should do-- is continue their science investigation forever-- by parking the craft into the Rings of Saturn, so that we can observe Cassini with our powerful telescopes on Earth and do data reckoning of the force of Gravity. Cassini would be a great tool as a reference point on how gravity truly works.

So, get off this childish crazy nonsense of crashing Cassini. Rather, instead, Park Cassini right into the Rings.

Now in that report, it was mentioned that Saturn pole is a Hexagon-- unbelievable, but there it is, a hexagon.

Now, can Newton Gravity cause a hexagon-- Absolutely not. Can General Relativity cause a hexagon-- Absolutely not. But, gravity as EM can form a hexagon

Another puzzle found by Cassini is what is a "blob" dubbed "Peggy", thought to be the formation of a new moon or the disintegration of a old moon. So, why not just park Cassini in the blob itself, have Cassini come to a surf board type of landing having the ice particles of the Rings slow the motion of Cassini and come to halt in the Peggy blob. Provided, if, the scientists at NASA are ever able to do the math for a come skidding halt of Cassini.

Perhaps, just dock Cassini outside the Rings and let it just fall ever so slowly into the Rings, and whether it will fall into Saturn or remain a part of the Ring structure itself.

Good report BBC, good report-- have to keep you guys around much longer, for if NASA had anything to do with news reporting, they would have you nose dive into Saturn or Jupiter, as they do satellites.

AP

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#647852 — EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"// silly crash landing when it should be parked

Eerie, eerie, eerie is the sight of a hexagonal pole. No Newton gravity, no General Relativity can do that.

What can do that is a Coulomb force as gravity that varies in strength from radius to 1/radius to 1/radius^2

Somewhere in a force strength of 1/radius, you get hexagonal geometry

We should be able to see that in Spiral Galaxies where radius is solid body rotation, next is 1/radius and if we look carefully enough, we should see a star pattern of hexagonal rotation in that spiral galaxy. Trouble is, these galaxies are so far away that we have trouble making out the hexagonal pattern.

AP

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#647853 — NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Eerie, eerie, eerie is the sight of a hexagonal pole. No Newton gravity, no General Relativity can do that.
> 
> What can do that is a Coulomb force as gravity that varies in strength from radius to 1/radius to 1/radius^2
> 


Look under Google -- Spiral Galaxies hexagon shape

I found NGC6814 is hexagonal

found M61 is hexagonal


> Somewhere in a force strength of 1/radius, you get hexagonal geometry
> 
> We should be able to see that in Spiral Galaxies where radius is solid body rotation, next is 1/radius and if we look carefully enough, we should see a star pattern of hexagonal rotation in that spiral galaxy. Trouble is, these galaxies are so far away that we have trouble making out the hexagonal pattern.
> 
> 

So, definitely, when Electromagnetism is gravity, not the Newton silliness, nor the General Relativity quackery, but just simple Electro Magnetism, that you can get hexagon shapes

AP

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#647854 — Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole//

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 3:55:59 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > Eerie, eerie, eerie is the sight of a hexagonal pole. No Newton gravity, no General Relativity can do that.
> > 
> > What can do that is a Coulomb force as gravity that varies in strength from radius to 1/radius to 1/radius^2
> > 
> 
> 
> Look under Google -- Spiral Galaxies hexagon shape
> 
> I found NGC6814 is hexagonal
> 
> found M61 is hexagonal
> 
> 
> > Somewhere in a force strength of 1/radius, you get hexagonal geometry
> > 
> > We should be able to see that in Spiral Galaxies where radius is solid body rotation, next is 1/radius and if we look carefully enough, we should see a star pattern of hexagonal rotation in that spiral galaxy. Trouble is, these galaxies are so far away that we have trouble making out the hexagonal pattern.
> > 
> > 
> 
> So, definitely, when Electromagnetism is gravity, not the Newton silliness, nor the General Relativity quackery, but just simple Electro Magnetism, that you can get hexagon shapes
> 
> 

Was not expecting a hexagonal north pole on Jupiter, so went to look at recent Juno pictures, and sure enough a hexagonal in primitive form is taking shape. Looking at a August 28 picture.

AP

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#647988 — snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:07:28 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 3:55:59 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > > Eerie, eerie, eerie is the sight of a hexagonal pole. No Newton gravity, no General Relativity can do that.
> > > 
> > > What can do that is a Coulomb force as gravity that varies in strength from radius to 1/radius to 1/radius^2
> > > 
> > 

Well of course, of course of course of course, the obvious common sight of Electromagnetism forming hexagons is snowflakes


> > 
> > Look under Google -- Spiral Galaxies hexagon shape
> > 
> > I found NGC6814 is hexagonal
> > 
> > found M61 is hexagonal
> > 
> > 
> > > Somewhere in a force strength of 1/radius, you get hexagonal geometry
> > > 
> > > We should be able to see that in Spiral Galaxies where radius is solid body rotation, next is 1/radius and if we look carefully enough, we should see a star pattern of hexagonal rotation in that spiral galaxy. Trouble is, these galaxies are so far away that we have trouble making out the hexagonal pattern.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > So, definitely, when Electromagnetism is gravity, not the Newton silliness, nor the General Relativity quackery, but just simple Electro Magnetism, that you can get hexagon shapes
> > 
> > 
> 
> Was not expecting a hexagonal north pole on Jupiter, so went to look at recent Juno pictures, and sure enough a hexagonal in primitive form is taking shape. Looking at a August 28 picture.
> 
> AP

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#648237 — snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape

From a gov website said this

The more detailed explanation is this: 

The ice crystals that make up snowflakes are symmetrical (or patterned) because they reflect the internal order of the crystal’s water molecules as they arrange themselves in predetermined spaces (known as “crystallization”) to form a six-sided snowflake. 

--- end gov. Website explanation

Afraid i need far more detail of why a hexagon 

Is it Van der Waals force

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#648245 — Re: snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape

On 9/1/2017 9:13 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>  From a gov website said this
> 
> The more detailed explanation is this:
> 
> The ice crystals that make up snowflakes are symmetrical (or patterned) because they reflect the internal order of the crystal’s water molecules as they arrange themselves in predetermined spaces (known as “crystallization”) to form a six-sided snowflake.
> 
> --- end gov. Website explanation
> 
> Afraid i need far more detail of why a hexagon
> 
> Is it Van der Waals force
> 
Why a hexagon is because a hexagon has 6 sides. Snowflakes have 6 sides 
(actually 6-fold symmetry but we won't go there) hence that is why a 
hexagon, Archie.

It's 6:00 do you know where you keys are?

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#648356 — Re: snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape

Not all "snowflakes" are hexagonal.

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#648393 — Re: snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Not all "snowflakes" are hexagonal.


I'll take it a step further..

it is a fact
that the majority of Snowflakes is not hexagonal.

but what do you people know of  snowflakes like
an expert as myself?

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#648394 — Re: snowflakes are hexagonal-- just as poles of Jupiter, Saturn Re: Jupiter has hexagonal pole also Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape

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Alright, which of these turns out the best, for an illustration of EM

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#648576 — van der Waals force explains the Saturn hexagon pole & First Life in atmosphere Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape

--- quote from website about hexagonal snowflake ---
Finally, on the right is an example of a van der Waals bound system that is the subject of active research: graphite. This consists of parallel graphene sheets that are bound together by van der Waals interactions. Understanding the properties of these sheets, the way charge flows in them, the way we can control this flow to make circuits, or harvest solar energy is the subject of many research programmes world-wide. Getting these interactions right has proved a major problem for theoretical methods.

 Flakes of these graphene sheets, called polyaromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) are contained in soot. This has been a subject of my research in a collaboration with Prof Markus Kraft and Dr Timothy Totton from the Chemical Engineering Department at Cambridge. Now we wish to understand how water aggregated on these graphene flakes (black carbon) as they drift in the atmosphere. 
- Show quoted text -

--- end quote---

What I was looking for was evidence that Van der Waals force causes hexagon snowflakes.

Recently on the Saturn pole is hexagon pole. Jupiter's pole is also hexagon but not as pronounced.

Several spiral galaxies are hexagon shapes.

All observations heading for a proof that gravity is EM force, never the Newton suck gravity or the General Relativity bent space gravity. In the future, when scientists talk of the forces of astronomy, the word "gravity" will no longer be spoken, but rather-- Van der Waals or London dispersion force or hydrogen bond force, or polar forces, or covalent forces or Coulomb force to describe what holds astronomy bodies together and galaxies together, for gravity is merely a manifestation of Electromagnetism, and evidence such as the Rings of Saturn, the spiral galaxies with Solid Body Rotation and now the poles of Saturn as hexagons,--- all pointing to gravity is EM forces.

But I wanted to quote more of the above, in light of my theory that First Life is Capacitors. And the best material for capacitors as life is carbon. 

I and most every scientist believed first life would come from on land or at sea, no-one dared think, First Life probably comes from the air and atmosphere. Where is it easiest, best to have carbon atoms formed into graphene? The above quote says "soot". Well, there were no trees around or vegetation to burn to make soot. But there was lightning in the atmosphere and plenty of CO2 and CO. So what if life came first from forming a capacitor of graphene in the air?

Easy Experiment:: go out and collect air samples that may contain natural graphene molecules. Test to see if they do so. If they do, test to see what capacitance they bear.

So, how to create First Life? I thought the land, rocks, ponds, sea was where First Life came. But it is looking more and more like as if the Air, the Atmosphere has the greatest potential of forming graphene molecules that are capacitors, and for these to absorb one another (eating and growing bigger) then precipitating out of the atmosphere and into the oceans and land.

Now it is a centuries old belief that life began in oceans and only much later, that these life forms crawled out of the oceans to begin to inhabit land.

If the Atmosphere is the correct first life formation, would suggest that both the land and oceans bore life simultaneously, as the first life capacitors had an equal chance of precipitating out of the sky onto land or water.

It makes more logical sense, because as we uncover more fossils, we see we have evolution of plants on land of equal complexity as animals found in sea. If life was started at sea, we should have hundreds of millions of years lag between land life complexity and sea life complexity. The fossil record, shows no lag. Suggesting that the First Life started simultaneously on land and sea as the precipitation of life from the Air fell to land and sea.

This has implications for whether Europa or Enceladus are the best candidates for life to be found. Which has the better carbon gas atmosphere?  Looking at Europa it has a atmosphere of tenuous oxygen, no carbon dioxide mentioned.

So do not be surprized if both Europa and Enceladus turn out to harbor no life. But looking at Jupiter for carbon dioxide and we may not have carbon dioxide but have a total different picture-- for we have methane carbon and ethane carbon. And I have been arguing for years now, that the Great Red Spot is likely to be First Life as capacitors in the Atmosphere, living like red algae on Earth.

AP

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#647884 — Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 1:55:59 AM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > Eerie, eerie, eerie is the sight of a hexagonal pole. No Newton gravity, no General Relativity can do that.
> > 
> > What can do that is a Coulomb force as gravity that varies in strength from radius to 1/radius to 1/radius^2
> > 
> 
> 
> Look under Google -- Spiral Galaxies hexagon shape
> 
> I found NGC6814 is hexagonal
> 
> found M61 is hexagonal
> 
> 
> > Somewhere in a force strength of 1/radius, you get hexagonal geometry
> > 
> > We should be able to see that in Spiral Galaxies where radius is solid body rotation, next is 1/radius and if we look carefully enough, we should see a star pattern of hexagonal rotation in that spiral galaxy. Trouble is, these galaxies are so far away that we have trouble making out the hexagonal pattern.
> > 
> > 
> 
> So, definitely, when Electromagnetism is gravity, not the Newton silliness, nor the General Relativity quackery, but just simple Electro Magnetism, that you can get hexagon shapes
> 
> AP

Magnetic force is not gravity.That is a given.Gravity s a force of attraction,and never a push away force.No plus or minus.No north or south poles.Its gravity all the way down to the core.Trebert

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#647892 — Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"

"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> is
__  Glazier, the Turd-man of Anaheim ____ is 
<http://tinyurl.com/Loudmouth-Glazier-8Feb2017>,
who posted on 27-Aug-2017 that 
Bert's brain is just "**dill** seaweed & full of "Heavy air"
as <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier-s-REAL-intent> is
for Glazier to show why SwineBert is a looser & so ugly
that he did not vote for himself. ... "That is a given
all the way down to the core", "it's a pity" he says.
2.1)-------------------------------------------------------------

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#647887 — Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 1:55:59 AM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > Eerie, eerie, eerie is the sight of a hexagonal pole. No Newton gravity, no General Relativity can do that.
> > 
> > What can do that is a Coulomb force as gravity that varies in strength from radius to 1/radius to 1/radius^2
> > 
> 
> 
> Look under Google -- Spiral Galaxies hexagon shape
> 
> I found NGC6814 is hexagonal
> 
> found M61 is hexagonal
> 
> 
> > Somewhere in a force strength of 1/radius, you get hexagonal geometry
> > 
> > We should be able to see that in Spiral Galaxies where radius is solid body rotation, next is 1/radius and if we look carefully enough, we should see a star pattern of hexagonal rotation in that spiral galaxy. Trouble is, these galaxies are so far away that we have trouble making out the hexagonal pattern.
> > 
> > 
> 
> So, definitely, when Electromagnetism is gravity, not the Newton silliness, nor the General Relativity quackery, but just simple Electro Magnetism, that you can get hexagon shapes
> 
> AP

Gravity makes spheres.It hates the square.trebert

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#647893 — Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"

"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> is
__  Glazier, the Turd-man of Anaheim ____ is 
<http://tinyurl.com/Loudmouth-Glazier-8Feb2017>,
who posted on 27-Aug-2017 that 
Bert's brain is just "**dill** seaweed & full of "Heavy air"
as <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier-s-REAL-intent> is
for Glazier to show why SwineBert is a looser & so ugly
that he did not vote for himself. ... "That is a given 
all the way down to the core", "it's a pity" he says.
2.1)-------------------------------------------------------------

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#648182 — Re: NGC6814 and M61 Re: EM gravity allows for hexagonal shape Re: News of Saturn from Cassini//hexagonal pole// mystery spot "peggy"

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 11:10:39 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 1:55:59 AM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > > Eerie, eerie, eerie is the sight of a hexagonal pole. No Newton gravity, no General Relativity can do that.
> > > 
> > > What can do that is a Coulomb force as gravity that varies in strength from radius to 1/radius to 1/radius^2
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Look under Google -- Spiral Galaxies hexagon shape
> > 
> > I found NGC6814 is hexagonal
> > 
> > found M61 is hexagonal
> > 
> > 
> > > Somewhere in a force strength of 1/radius, you get hexagonal geometry
> > > 
> > > We should be able to see that in Spiral Galaxies where radius is solid body rotation, next is 1/radius and if we look carefully enough, we should see a star pattern of hexagonal rotation in that spiral galaxy. Trouble is, these galaxies are so far away that we have trouble making out the hexagonal pattern.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > So, definitely, when Electromagnetism is gravity, not the Newton silliness, nor the General Relativity quackery, but just simple Electro Magnetism, that you can get hexagon shapes
> > 
> > AP
> 
> Gravity makes spheres.It hates the square.trebert


True, but when a sphere is rapidly spinning, ellipsoids are OK with gravity.

Double-A

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