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First post2017-08-10 10:32 -0700
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  by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 10:32 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 11:02 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 11:46 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 16:54 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 19:26 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 22:24 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 09:41 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 11:23 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 13:34 -0500
                    Re: by albert einstein Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 12:20 -0700
                    Re: by albert einstein "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:38 -0700
                      Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-17 12:48 -0700
                      Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-17 14:02 -0700
                        Re: by albert einstein benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 18:09 -0400
                          Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-17 22:44 -0700
                            Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-18 15:55 -0700
                        Re: by albert einstein "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:06 -0700
                          Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-18 14:11 -0700
                          Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-18 15:52 -0700
                            Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-18 18:59 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 12:34 -0700
                    Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 15:40 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 09:54 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-11 22:07 -0700
            Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 11:10 -0700
            Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:03 -0700
              Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 15:39 -0400
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 13:11 -0700
                  Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 16:17 -0400
                    Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-08-13 13:46 -0700
                  Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-08-13 17:04 -0400
                    Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 19:43 -0400
      Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-12 13:51 +0200
        Re: by albert einstein Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 05:24 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 11:25 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-12 22:41 +0200
            Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 14:08 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:49 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 18:01 -0400
              Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 18:04 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 18:36 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 19:15 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 20:26 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-13 20:32 +0200
                Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:16 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-13 21:05 +0200
                Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-14 13:16 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-15 10:21 +0200
                    Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-15 12:08 -0700
                      Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-15 14:35 -0700
                      Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-16 08:19 +0200
        Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 13:06 -0700
    Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 11:20 -0400
      Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-08-13 10:19 -0700
        Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 11:08 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-23 10:42 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-25 12:33 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 13:44 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-24 09:04 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-24 16:57 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-24 20:23 -0400
          Re: by albert einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-25 14:21 -0700
            Re: Eventually, the Feds will have all the gold+BitCoins. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-26 12:23 -0700

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#645542

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-08-11 12:34 -0700
Message-ID<598E06DC.289B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#645537
Hägar wrote:
> 
> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598DDE57.33C8@ix.netcom.com...
> 
> Hägar wrote:
> >
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598D15F1.6A50@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> > I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the
> > election.
> > Get a grip, dufus ...
> 
> Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the
> presidency...
> 
> I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....
> 
> I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.
> 
> What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
> Hägar
> 
> >>> snip <<<
> 
> *** ever hear of an "Umlaut" ??? if not ... Google it or go
> back to school.



Sorry, I went to skool in the United States, not Germany.



https://www.thegermanz.com/how-germans-feel-umlauts-aou/



Ü, or ü, is a character that typically represents a close front rounded vowel [y]. 
It is classified as ... A glyph, U with umlaut, appears in the German alphabet.



So, how are those German girls...Betty Boop, what a dish! Betty Gable, nice gams...

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#645555

FromHägar <hsahm@yahoo.com>
Date2017-08-11 15:40 -0700
Message-ID<BbydnYlq7eDtrxPEnZ2dnUU7-fPNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#645542

"The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598E06DC.289B@ix.netcom.com...

Hägar wrote:
>
> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598DDE57.33C8@ix.netcom.com...
>
> Hägar wrote:
> >
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598D15F1.6A50@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> > I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the
> > election.
> > Get a grip, dufus ...
>
> Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the
> presidency...
>
> I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....
>
> I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.
>
> What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
> Hägar
>
> >>> snip <<<
>
> *** ever hear of an "Umlaut" ??? if not ... Google it or go
> back to school.



Sorry, I went to skool in the United States, not Germany.


>>> snip <<<


*** Well, some of us take advantage of furthering our education
by enrolling in foreign language studies.  But I can see your dilemma ...
a brain is one of the minimum requirements. 

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#645531

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-08-11 09:54 -0700
Message-ID<598DE14F.67E0@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#645477
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Hägar wrote:
> >
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598CA9F0.77EB@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> > Hägar wrote:
> > >
> > > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> > >
> > > https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
> > >
> > > *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> > > a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> > > penned Obama's two books.
> > >
> > > Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> > > orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on
> > > the other hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism
> > > and has the flowery rhetoric of those carpet baggers.
> > >
> > > Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> > > od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> > > to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> > > You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
> >
> > https://monthlyreview.org/product/mr-001-01-1949-05/
> >
> > I appologize if it wasn't written by Albert Einstein...
> >
> > can you point to one link that claims that it *wasn't* written by Albert
> > Einstein???
> >
> > *** I'm simply saying why would a man, who is Jewish and had
> > to relocate twice (Switzerland and the US) to escape the scourge
> > of Hitler's Socialist regime, pen a letter in its praise ???
> > Only a screwball like you could believe that.
> 
> Sorry, I'm not into politics...
> 
> if you wondering what Einstein's politics are:
> 
> Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism, as illustrated by the following quote:
> "I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
> Political views of Albert Einstein - Wikipedia
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=albert+einstein+politics&oq=albert+einstein+politics&gs_l=psy-ab.12...769.769.0.1985.2.1.0.0.0.0.490.490.4-1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.0.0.0.CEwxLUS4RLo


But, if you want to talk about Albert Einstein politics, they both had the same politics, to take over the Vorld!


Albert Einstein called on governments to proceed further by taking gradual steps towards forming an effectual federal world government. 



“Mankind’s desire for peace can be realized only by the creation of a world government. --Albert Einstein


Nazi Germany
The ruling Nazi Party of 1933–1945 Germany envisaged the ultimate establishment of a world government under the complete hegemony of the Third Reich.


H. G. Wells
The New Republic must ultimately become a "World-State"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government



https://www.youtube.com/v/FN7r0Rr1Qyc&autoplay=1


The World Belongs To Me! -- The Starmaker



get off my planet.

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#645584

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-08-11 22:07 -0700
Message-ID<omm271$5js$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645531
"The Starmaker" <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> "Hägar" <hsahm@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > > "The Starmaker"  wrote:
 >> > > https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>> > >
>> > Hägar wrote:
>> > > *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
>> > > a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
>> > > penned Obama's two books.
>> > >
>> > > Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
>> > > orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on
>> > > the other hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism
>> > > and has the flowery rhetoric of those carpet baggers.
>> > >
>> > > Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
>> > > od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
>> > > to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
>> > > You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
>> >
Starmaker wrote:
>> > https://monthlyreview.org/product/mr-001-01-1949-05/
>> > I appologize if it wasn't written by Albert Einstein...
>> > can you point to one link that claims that it *wasn't* written by
>> > Albert Einstein???
>> >
Hägar wrote:
>> > *** I'm simply saying why would a man, who is Jewish and had
>> > to relocate twice (Switzerland and the US) to escape the scourge
>> > of Hitler's Socialist regime, pen a letter in its praise ???
>> > Only a screwball like you could believe that.
>>
Starmaker wrote:
 >> Sorry, I'm not into politics...
>> if you wondering what Einstein's politics are:
>>
>> Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition
>> to capitalism, as illustrated by the following quote:
>> "I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate
>> these grave evils, namely through the establishment
>> of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational
>> system which would be oriented toward social goals.
>> Political views of Albert Einstein - Wikipedia
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>> https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=albert+einstein+politics&oq=albert

Starmaker wrote:
> But, if you, Hägar, want to talk about Albert Einstein politics,
> they both had the same politics, to take over the Vorld!
>
> Albert Einstein called on governments to proceed further
> by taking gradual steps towards forming an effectual federal
> world government.
>
> "Mankind's desire for peace can be realized only by
> the creation of a world government. --Albert Einstein
>
> The ruling Nazi Party of 1933-1945 Germany envisaged the
> ultimate establishment of a world government under the
> complete hegemony of the Third Reich.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government>
> <https://www.youtube.com/v/FN7r0Rr1Qyc&autoplay=1>
>  [[[ US-Neo-Nazi-Song-"Tomorrow-belongs to me"]]]
> The World Belongs To Me! -- The Starmaker
>
hanson wrote:
Well, this rehashing of Zio-kike machinations ought to be
taken with <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
in which a lot of details about the thief and twice arrested
wife-beater Albert Einstein  were discussed.
If interested check links "Vordergasse"

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#645737 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

FromHägar <hsahm@yahoo.com>
Date2017-08-13 11:10 -0700
SubjectRe: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.
Message-ID<WNGdnfEcq--ECw3EnZ2dnUU7-THNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#645477
"Jeff-Relf.Me @." wrote in message 
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.13--6.06am.Seattle.2017...


>>> snip useless drivel <<<


*** Jeff, you off your meds again ??? 

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#645745 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-08-13 12:03 -0700
SubjectRe: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.
Message-ID<5990A296.40B5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#645477
Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
> 
> Wikipedia says: <<
> 
>   Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism,
>   as illustrated by the following quote:
> 
>   " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils,
>     namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... >>
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
> 
> But the quote is from:
> 
>   " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>     https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>   Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH:  Why Socialism ?
> 
> A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_:  <<
> 
>   A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
>   the complete enslavement of the individual...
>   How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
> 
>   Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is
>   of greatest significance in our age of transition. >>
> 
> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
> 
> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
> 
>  1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or:
>  2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
> 
> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html


Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.


Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much money.

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#645756 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

FromDoomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s>
Date2017-08-13 15:39 -0400
SubjectRe: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.
Message-ID<WV1kB.208867$GV1.105961@fx05.iad>
In reply to#645745
On 2017-08-13 03:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>
>> Wikipedia says: <<
>>
>>   Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism,
>>   as illustrated by the following quote:
>>
>>   " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils,
>>     namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... >>
>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>>
>> But the quote is from:
>>
>>   " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>>     https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>   Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH:  Why Socialism ?
>>
>> A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_:  <<
>>
>>   A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
>>   the complete enslavement of the individual...
>>   How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
>>
>>   Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is
>>   of greatest significance in our age of transition. >>
>>
>> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
>> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
>> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
>>
>> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
>>
>>  1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or:
>>  2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
>>
>> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
> 
> 
> Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.
> 
> 
> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much money.

Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.


-- 
Doomsdrzej
OpenMedia & EFF member
TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter
Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

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#645758 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

FromHägar <hsahm@yahoo.com>
Date2017-08-13 13:11 -0700
SubjectRe: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.
Message-ID<8tmdnVeTw-ngLw3EnZ2dnUU7-e_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#645756
"Doomsdrzej"  wrote in message news:WV1kB.208867$GV1.105961@fx05.iad...

On 2017-08-13 03:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>
>> Wikipedia says: <<
>>
>>   Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism,
>>   as illustrated by the following quote:
>>
>>   " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils,
>>     namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... >>
>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>>
>> But the quote is from:
>>
>>   " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>>     https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>   Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH:  Why Socialism ?
>>
>> A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_:  <<
>>
>>   A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
>>   the complete enslavement of the individual...
>>   How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
>>
>>   Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is
>>   of greatest significance in our age of transition. >>
>>
>> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
>> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
>> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
>>
>> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
>>
>>  1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or:
>>  2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
>>
>> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.
>
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
>
>
> Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.
>
>
> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much 
> money.

Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.


*** The New York Times and The Washington Post are the bibles of
the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....

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#645759 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

FromDoomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s>
Date2017-08-13 16:17 -0400
SubjectRe: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.
Message-ID<Qt2kB.186750$k72.99017@fx30.iad>
In reply to#645758
On 2017-08-13 04:11 PM, Hägar wrote:
> "Doomsdrzej"  wrote in message news:WV1kB.208867$GV1.105961@fx05.iad...
> 
> On 2017-08-13 03:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>>
>>> Wikipedia says: <<
>>>
>>>   Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism,
>>>   as illustrated by the following quote:
>>>
>>>   " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils,
>>>     namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... >>
>>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>>>
>>> But the quote is from:
>>>
>>>   " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>>>     https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>>   Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH:  Why Socialism ?
>>>
>>> A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_:  <<
>>>
>>>   A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
>>>   the complete enslavement of the individual...
>>>   How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
>>>
>>>   Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is
>>>   of greatest significance in our age of transition. >>
>>>
>>> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
>>> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
>>> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
>>>
>>> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
>>>
>>>  1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or:
>>>  2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
>>>
>>> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.
>>
>>
>> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much
>> money.
> 
> Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
> New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
> usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.
> 
> 
> *** The New York Times and The Washington Post are the bibles of
> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....

If the New York Times or the Washington Post claims that Donald Trump is
the resurrected corpse of Adolf Hitler sand mustache and with bleached
hair, left-wing idiots would believe it. After all, it is "credible."

Whatever Bill Maher, Trevor Noah, Stephen Colbert or those two rags say
is gospel.

-- 
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OpenMedia & EFF member
TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter
Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

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#645768 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-08-13 13:46 -0700
SubjectRe: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.
Message-ID<D5B608CE.B03D1%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#645759
On 8/13/17, 1:17 PM, in article Qt2kB.186750$k72.99017@fx30.iad,
"Doomsdrzej" <.m@nsn.s> wrote:

>>> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much
>>> money.
>> 
>> Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
>> New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
>> usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.
>> 
>> 
>> *** The New York Times and The Washington Post are the bibles of
>> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....
> 
> If the New York Times or the Washington Post claims that Donald Trump is
> the resurrected corpse of Adolf Hitler sand mustache and with bleached
> hair, left-wing idiots would believe it. After all, it is "credible."
> 
> Whatever Bill Maher, Trevor Noah, Stephen Colbert or those two rags say
> is gospel.
> 
> -- 
> Doomsdrzej
> OpenMedia & EFF member
> TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter
> Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

You have to be posting this nonsense for the sake of irony these days. I
mean, really, not even you could be THAT immune to reason.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#645775 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2017-08-13 17:04 -0400
SubjectRe: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.
Message-ID<omqf8b$ib3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645758
Hägar wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....
                 ^^^^^^^^^^ Idiot Sign

-- 
Many a writer seems to think he is never profound except when he can't
understand his own meaning.
		-- George D. Prentice

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#645794 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

FromDoomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s>
Date2017-08-13 19:43 -0400
SubjectRe: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.
Message-ID<mu5kB.139715$gb1.47575@fx14.iad>
In reply to#645775
On 2017-08-13 05:04 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Hägar wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^ Idiot Sign

The ultimate snowflake of Usenet is triggered.

-- 
Doomsdrzej
OpenMedia & EFF member
Infowars & TheRebel.media supporter
Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

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#645596

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2017-08-12 13:51 +0200
Message-ID<ev88elF6j4gU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#645423
Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>
>
> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> penned Obama's two books.
>
> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on the other
> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
> of those carpet baggers.
>
> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.

Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the 
USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein 
could not do.

So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.

There are always questions about authorship of a certain text, since 
'the elite' provides also books, which the member elitists could claim 
authorship for.

This is similar to other realms in arts and science, where usually the 
'big animal' demands all the fame and leaves the annoying work to others.

So painters should paint and singers should sing - without possible 
assistance from behind the curtains.

Some did and failed ('Milli Vanilli' for instance).

Therefore such public exams are no longer in use and we have to buy 
things as presented.

TH

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#645598

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-12 05:24 -0700
Message-ID<8968047d-a3f7-43f6-bb96-8fbbbdb5eddd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#645596
On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 7:51:56 AM UTC-4, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> > https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
> >
> > *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> > a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> > penned Obama's two books.
> >
> > Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> > orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on the other
> > hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
> > of those carpet baggers.
> >
> > Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> > od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> > to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> > You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
> 
> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the 
> USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein 
> could not do.
> 
> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
> 
> There are always questions about authorship of a certain text, since 
> 'the elite' provides also books, which the member elitists could claim 
> authorship for.
> 
> This is similar to other realms in arts and science, where usually the 
> 'big animal' demands all the fame and leaves the annoying work to others.
> 
> So painters should paint and singers should sing - without possible 
> assistance from behind the curtains.
> 
> Some did and failed ('Milli Vanilli' for instance).
> 
> Therefore such public exams are no longer in use and we have to buy 
> things as presented.
> 
> TH

Good post TH! Great points. Do write/share more. Have a good day!

BTW... It did hurt me m(y) brain to read of the 'Milli Vanilli' reference. The Pain!
You do know, I could've just equivalently pounded my head against any OneStone Wall?!

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#645618

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-08-12 11:25 -0700
Message-ID<omngup$d4k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645596
"Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
>> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>
>> Hägar wrote:
>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
>> penned Obama's two books.
>>
>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on the other
>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
>> of those carpet baggers.
>>
>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
>
"Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the USA). 
> The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein could not 
> do.
> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
>
hanson wrote:
Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
spoken accent (audio) can be  seen in a silent, printed article? ..
Here, for your benefit, are some more
<http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>

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#645634

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2017-08-12 22:41 +0200
Message-ID<ev97f6Fdnt1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#645618
Am 12.08.2017 20:25, schrieb hanson:
>
> "Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
>> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
>>> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
>>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>>
>>> Hägar wrote:
>>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
>>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
>>> penned Obama's two books.
>>>
>>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
>>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on the other
>>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
>>> of those carpet baggers.
>>>
>>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
>>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
>>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
>>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
>>
> "Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
>> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the
>> USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein
>> could not do.
>> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
>>
> hanson wrote:
> Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
> or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
> spoken accent (audio) can be seen in a silent, printed article? ..
> Here, for your benefit, are some more
> <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
>

I'm German and write in a second language. So I know very the 
difficulties for Germans t5o write in English (or for English to write 
in German).

The English language is full of very specific rules and exceptions and 
there are way more English words than German.

German on the other hand is difficult for speakers of English, because 
they have e.g. three genders and certain letters, that are hard to 
pronounce correctly (like 'ü').

So I would guess, that I could hear the origin of a speaker. But I could 
also see the differences in the written language, since certain mistakes 
are typical for Germans and for English.

For instance countries are female in English (Germany is 'she') and the 
people living there are male singular (the German).
The German language uses different concepts and countries have mainly 
the neutral gender and people are addressed in plural.

So speakers of either language make certain errors, because they are 
used to the concepts, their own language is based on. And they keep them 
long after they speak the new foreign language perfectly.

 From such errors I can estimate the origin of the speaker, even if 
there is no accent.

But Einstein spoke with a very strong German accent (like e.g. Wernher 
von Braun), hence he did not learn the new language English too well.

Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that 
Einstein could not have written it (himself).

But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a 
text of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was 
translated by a professional translator.


TH

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#645642

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-08-12 14:08 -0700
Message-ID<omnqh2$ac2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645634
"Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
> Am 12.08.2017 20:25, schrieb hanson:
>> "Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
>>> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
>>>> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
>>>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>>>
>>>> Hägar wrote:
>>>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
>>>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
>>>> penned Obama's two books.
>>>>
>>>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
>>>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on the other
>>>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery 
>>>> rhetoric
>>>> of those carpet baggers.
>>>>
>>>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
>>>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
>>>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
>>>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
>>>
>> "Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
>>> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the
>>> USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein
>>> could not do.
>>> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
>>>
>> hanson wrote:
>> Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
>> or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
>> spoken accent (audio) can be seen in a silent, printed article? ..
>> Here, for your benefit, are some more
>> <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
>>
"Thomas Heger" wrote:
> I'm German and write in a second language. So I know very the difficulties 
> for Germans t5o write in English (or for English to write in German).
>
> The English language is full of very specific rules and exceptions and 
> there are way more English words than German.
>
> German on the other hand is difficult for speakers of English, because 
> they have e.g. three genders and certain letters, that are hard to 
> pronounce correctly (like 'ü').
>
> So I would guess, that I could hear the origin of a speaker. But I could 
> also see the differences in the written language, since certain mistakes 
> are typical for Germans and for English.
>
> For instance countries are female in English (Germany is 'she') and the 
> people living there are male singular (the German).
> The German language uses different concepts and countries have mainly the 
> neutral gender and people are addressed in plural.
>
> So speakers of either language make certain errors, because they are used 
> to the concepts, their own language is based on. And they keep them long 
> after they speak the new foreign language perfectly.
>
> From such errors I can estimate the origin of the speaker, even if there 
> is no accent.
>
> But Einstein spoke with a very strong German accent (like e.g. Wernher von 
> Braun), hence he did not learn the new language English too well.
>
> Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that Einstein 
> could not have written it (himself).
>
> But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a text 
> of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was translated 
> by a professional translator.
>
hanson wrote:
Thomas, alter Knabe, der kurze Sinn Deines langen Post's  ist
offensichtlich. Schweigen währe Gold für Dich gewesen.
Geniesse das Wochenende, und bleibe ein  gute Landser.
Wiederschaun'
hanson

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#645648

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-12 14:49 -0700
Message-ID<3b544859-1cf3-4a46-a631-83a07f0f4442@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#645642
On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 5:08:50 PM UTC-4, hanson wrote:
> "Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
> > Am 12.08.2017 20:25, schrieb hanson:
> >> "Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
> >>> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
> >>>> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> >>>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
> >>>>
> >>>> Hägar wrote:
> >>>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> >>>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> >>>> penned Obama's two books.
> >>>>
> >>>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> >>>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on the other
> >>>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery 
> >>>> rhetoric
> >>>> of those carpet baggers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> >>>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> >>>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> >>>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
> >>>
> >> "Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
> >>> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the
> >>> USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein
> >>> could not do.
> >>> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
> >>>
> >> hanson wrote:
> >> Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
> >> or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
> >> spoken accent (audio) can be seen in a silent, printed article? ..
> >> Here, for your benefit, are some more
> >> <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
> >>
> "Thomas Heger" wrote:
> > I'm German and write in a second language. So I know very the difficulties 
> > for Germans t5o write in English (or for English to write in German).
> >
> > The English language is full of very specific rules and exceptions and 
> > there are way more English words than German.
> >
> > German on the other hand is difficult for speakers of English, because 
> > they have e.g. three genders and certain letters, that are hard to 
> > pronounce correctly (like 'ü').
> >
> > So I would guess, that I could hear the origin of a speaker. But I could 
> > also see the differences in the written language, since certain mistakes 
> > are typical for Germans and for English.
> >
> > For instance countries are female in English (Germany is 'she') and the 
> > people living there are male singular (the German).
> > The German language uses different concepts and countries have mainly the 
> > neutral gender and people are addressed in plural.
> >
> > So speakers of either language make certain errors, because they are used 
> > to the concepts, their own language is based on. And they keep them long 
> > after they speak the new foreign language perfectly.
> >
> > From such errors I can estimate the origin of the speaker, even if there 
> > is no accent.
> >
> > But Einstein spoke with a very strong German accent (like e.g. Wernher von 
> > Braun), hence he did not learn the new language English too well.
> >
> > Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that Einstein 
> > could not have written it (himself).
> >
> > But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a text 
> > of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was translated 
> > by a professional translator.
> >
> hanson wrote:
> Thomas, alter Knabe, der kurze Sinn Deines langen Post's  ist
> offensichtlich. Schweigen währe Gold für Dich gewesen.
> Geniesse das Wochenende, und bleibe ein  gute Landser.
> Wiederschaun'
> hanson

Thomas, old boy, is the short sense of your long post
obviously. Silence would have been gold for you.
Enjoy the weekend and stay a good landser.
Again Gaze '

Schweigen währe Gold für Dich gewesen.
Silence would have been gold for you.
You've got to love it! Keep writing Thomas, hansonJi is just egging you on!

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#645649

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-12 18:01 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.33f944ca792a650f98af23@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#645634
In article <ev97f6Fdnt1U1@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says...
> 
> Am 12.08.2017 20:25, schrieb hanson:
> >
> > "Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
> >> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
> >>> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> >>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
> >>>
> >>> Hägar wrote:
> >>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> >>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> >>> penned Obama's two books.
> >>>
> >>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> >>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on the other
> >>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
> >>> of those carpet baggers.
> >>>
> >>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> >>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> >>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> >>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
> >>
> > "Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
> >> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the
> >> USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein
> >> could not do.
> >> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
> >>
> > hanson wrote:
> > Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
> > or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
> > spoken accent (audio) can be seen in a silent, printed article? ..
> > Here, for your benefit, are some more
> > <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
> >
> 
> I'm German and write in a second language. So I know very the 
> difficulties for Germans t5o write in English (or for English to write 
> in German).
> 
> The English language is full of very specific rules and exceptions and 
> there are way more English words than German.
> 
> German on the other hand is difficult for speakers of English, because 
> they have e.g. three genders and certain letters, that are hard to 
> pronounce correctly (like 'ü').
> 
> So I would guess, that I could hear the origin of a speaker. But I could 
> also see the differences in the written language, since certain mistakes 
> are typical for Germans and for English.
> 
> For instance countries are female in English (Germany is 'she') and the 
> people living there are male singular (the German).
>
> The German language uses different concepts and countries have mainly 
> the neutral gender and people are addressed in plural.
> 
> So speakers of either language make certain errors, because they are 
> used to the concepts, their own language is based on. And they keep them 
> long after they speak the new foreign language perfectly.
> 
>  From such errors I can estimate the origin of the speaker, even if 
> there is no accent.
> 
> But Einstein spoke with a very strong German accent (like e.g. Wernher 
> von Braun), hence he did not learn the new language English too well.
> 
> Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that 
> Einstein could not have written it (himself).
> 
> But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a 
> text of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was 
> translated by a professional translator.

I think that Einstein's command of English was considerably better than 
yours.  I'm pretty sure that he understood that one would only refer to 
_writing_ with an accent if one was attempting to be facetious.

If you mean that people with certain backgrounds make characteristic 
grammatical errors, that may be true, but it is not an "accent", and when 
one is writing for publication and (a) has time to review one's work, (b) 
hand it to someone in the English department at a major university to vet, 
and (c) also has it reviewed by the publication's professional editor, such 
errors can be easily eliminated.

Now, whether Einstein's views on politics should be given much weight is a 
different question--he was an expert on physics, not government.  Expertise 
in one field does not automatically convey expertise in another.

However I suspect you know all this and are just trolling for an argument.

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#645663

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-08-12 18:04 -0700
Message-ID<598FA5A4.18DB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#645649
J. Clarke wrote:
> 
> In article <ev97f6Fdnt1U1@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says...
> >
> > Am 12.08.2017 20:25, schrieb hanson:
> > >
> > > "Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
> > >> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
> > >>> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> > >>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
> > >>>
> > >>> Hägar wrote:
> > >>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> > >>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> > >>> penned Obama's two books.
> > >>>
> > >>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> > >>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on the other
> > >>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
> > >>> of those carpet baggers.
> > >>>
> > >>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> > >>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> > >>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> > >>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
> > >>
> > > "Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
> > >> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the
> > >> USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein
> > >> could not do.
> > >> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
> > >>
> > > hanson wrote:
> > > Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
> > > or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
> > > spoken accent (audio) can be seen in a silent, printed article? ..
> > > Here, for your benefit, are some more
> > > <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
> > >
> >
> > I'm German and write in a second language. So I know very the
> > difficulties for Germans t5o write in English (or for English to write
> > in German).
> >
> > The English language is full of very specific rules and exceptions and
> > there are way more English words than German.
> >
> > German on the other hand is difficult for speakers of English, because
> > they have e.g. three genders and certain letters, that are hard to
> > pronounce correctly (like 'ü').
> >
> > So I would guess, that I could hear the origin of a speaker. But I could
> > also see the differences in the written language, since certain mistakes
> > are typical for Germans and for English.
> >
> > For instance countries are female in English (Germany is 'she') and the
> > people living there are male singular (the German).
> >
> > The German language uses different concepts and countries have mainly
> > the neutral gender and people are addressed in plural.
> >
> > So speakers of either language make certain errors, because they are
> > used to the concepts, their own language is based on. And they keep them
> > long after they speak the new foreign language perfectly.
> >
> >  From such errors I can estimate the origin of the speaker, even if
> > there is no accent.
> >
> > But Einstein spoke with a very strong German accent (like e.g. Wernher
> > von Braun), hence he did not learn the new language English too well.
> >
> > Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that
> > Einstein could not have written it (himself).
> >
> > But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a
> > text of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was
> > translated by a professional translator.
> 
> I think that Einstein's command of English was considerably better than
> yours.  I'm pretty sure that he understood that one would only refer to
> _writing_ with an accent if one was attempting to be facetious.
> 
> If you mean that people with certain backgrounds make characteristic
> grammatical errors, that may be true, but it is not an "accent", and when
> one is writing for publication and (a) has time to review one's work, (b)
> hand it to someone in the English department at a major university to vet,
> and (c) also has it reviewed by the publication's professional editor, such
> errors can be easily eliminated.
> 
> Now, whether Einstein's views on politics should be given much weight is a
> different question--he was an expert on physics, not government.  Expertise
> in one field does not automatically convey expertise in another.
> 


'government expert'?? ,  i didn't even know the term existed. Is Trump a
'government expert'????

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