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  Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 05:49 -0700
    Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 06:34 -0700
      Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 07:35 -0700
    Re: Options On North Korea "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-07 06:57 -0700
    Re: Options On North Korea The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-07 09:09 -0700
      Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 09:13 -0700
        Re: Options On North Korea The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-07 18:29 -0700
          Re: Options On North Korea The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-07 18:32 -0700
    Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 14:10 -0700
      Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 15:10 -0700
        Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 17:12 -0700
    Re: Options On North Korea Cujo DeSockpuppet <cujo@petitmorte.net> - 2017-07-07 21:35 +0000
    do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 23:31 -0700
      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 23:45 -0700
        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 00:59 -0700
          Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 03:44 -0700
            Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 06:14 -0700
              Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 07:39 -0700
                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 18:06 -0700
                  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 18:18 -0700
                    Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 04:35 -0700
                      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 05:25 -0700
                      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-10 18:09 -0400
                  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-10 18:00 -0400
                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 05:07 -0700
                  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 06:34 -0700
                    Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 03:47 -0700
                      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 07:02 -0700
                        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-10 18:40 -0400
                          Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 16:41 -0700
                            Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-10 17:23 -0700
                              Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 17:46 -0700
                                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-10 18:55 -0700
                                  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 02:32 -0700
                                  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 04:08 -0700
                        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 16:38 -0700
                      Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 18:35 -0700
                        Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 02:31 -0700
                          Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 04:11 -0700
                            Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 04:50 -0700
                              Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 05:01 -0700
                                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 06:00 -0700
                                  Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 06:12 -0700
                                    Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 06:36 -0700
                                    Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 06:51 -0700
                                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 06:30 -0700
                          Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 11:38 -0700
              Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 13:59 -0700
                Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-08 15:14 -0700
    Re: Options On North Korea Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-08 11:42 -0500
    Never be two faced and less than 100% serious when it comes to nuclear weaponization Re: Options On North Korea Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 21:15 -0700
    Re: Options On North Korea Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2017-07-09 11:20 +0200
      Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 04:46 -0700
        Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 05:26 -0700
          Re: Options On North Korea Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-09 10:22 -0500
            Re: Options On North Korea Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 04:22 -0700
        Re: Options On North Korea Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-09 10:12 -0500
        Re: Options On North Korea benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-10 18:12 -0400
    Re: Options On North Korea Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-07-09 18:29 -0400
      Re: Options On North Korea HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 17:55 -0700
    biological option Re: Options On North Korea Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 23:23 -0700

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#639566 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

Loopy says
> I won't fight you 

You can't fight me. 
---------

Ok you win

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#639570 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 7:35:54 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> Loopy says
> > I won't fight you 
> 
> You can't fight me. 
> ---------
> 
> Ok you win

Of course I win. I always win Win WIN! Btw, I take your reply as a threat.

From now on, stop mentioning me by name in your threads, I'll never reply.
I may reply to defend JohnJi and BenjJi, should you mention them, HVAC.

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल ७६३८ "My Pal" or "Maple"... Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM! 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#639824 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On 7/9/2017 7:35 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Loopy says
>> I won't fight you
> 
> You can't fight me.
> ---------
> 
> Ok you win
> 
Holy shit! HVAC has said "you win"? What the actual fuck?
HVAC are you REALLY dying of cancer? It's OK ghosts are waiting for you 
to join them in the afterlife.

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#639812 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On 7/8/2017 9:06 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Loopy says
>> This is the typical kook/hippy mantra. Blame the USA.
> 
> What in actual hell have you got against any hippy, you jerkingOffKookHVAC?
> 
> ArindamJi, HVAC is a mole. He's an implant. Ignore HVAC's actual words.
> 
>> *I* prefer our Western culture and society. *They* prefer a
>> caliphate with Shira law. *You* prefer to live in fantasy land with
>> physics that allow ftl travel.
> 
> O looky, HVAC discovered his * key! Everybody DanSingħing Now now NOW?!
>    
> Thanks for trying, HVAC. There exist more lifestyles than the two mere
> Western culture and your one go to phrase: Shira law. The Shira's did it!!
> ------------
> 
> You seem to be very angry with your life circumstances. Either that or you're drunk a lot and tend to blubber.
> 
> I won't fight you
> 
But you will make him "mad", right? Fist bump! Making people "mad" 
really gets your rocks off, doesn't it?

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#639568 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 12:39:49 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> > Arindam Banerjee
> 
> <trim>
> 
> > The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand started WW1 which led to WW2. 
> > 
> > Have Westerners learnt nothing at all from that event? 
> 
> Ever study history in USA classrooms? USA is still in Kansas! Stuck, for evermore.

No I did not study history in USA classrooms. I hope you did not have that 
misfortune. Or if you did, managed to work your way out of their 
aggrandizing attitudes, such as their notion of "manifest destiny" which means
they can kill and rob everything they possibly can.

> > > Bad and Good are always in a tussle in this world, but the worst
> > > is to let 1 bad make the world awful for everyone else.
> 
> > Indeed, so it is of the greatest importance to get rid of all the bad ideas 
> > started by Einstein et al. And go for the new and great idea of mine, that 
> > will give humanity unlimited power and faster than light travel. 
> 
> Yours? Well, that's a little bit vain. But do go with it, BanerjeeJi!

Seeing how much I have personally suffered, and had the even greater suffering
of hardship coming to my family as the consequence of my discovering in 1999
a new formula linking mass and energy non-destructively, namely
e=0.5mvvN(N-k), and being the only one in the world to push the consequences
of that idea from 1999 to now, I believe I do have the right to that claim not
in the conjectural sense but in the realistic practical and revolutionary
sense. As presented in my book "To the Stars!" publised in my Internet site
in 2000. Vanity - well all is vanity they say - but I do most strongly believe
that my new formula along with its consequences will save the world from
asteroid strike, and bring plenty to humanity in due course. Like from the 
cave age to the present age, so it will be from the present age to the space
age. Startrek realised! What I do, is for the safety and prosperity of my 
children and grandchildren and their descendants and all their friends.

As for going on with it, indeed I will and I do hope to get all the support
I need from the good people of the world.
> 
> > Cheers, 
> > Arindam Banerjee 
> > -----------
> > 
> > This is the typical kook/hippy mantra. Blame the USA. 
> 
> What in actual hell have you got against any hippy, you jerkingOffKookHVAC?
> 
> ArindamJi, HVAC is a mole. He's an implant. Ignore HVAC's actual words.

He sounds like an important devil as your friend benj went running and crying
to him, trying to get me off sci.physics.electromag by such bullying. He is some
kind of a moderator there and that does give him some importance. So far he
has not been unduly unpleasant to me; at least not restricted my posts. Which
is good, so I don't want to upset him too much.

As to being a mole or an implant, indeed he could be that, for his vicious
attitudes go against the best ethos of Western civilisation. That is, justice,
compassion and reason. Justice from the Roman Empire, where the law was that
a man is innocent until proven guilty. Compassion from Christianity with the
most grand self-sacrifice of their god Jesus Christ. And Reason from the 
Renaissance starting with Leonardo da Vinci. Instead of justice, compassion
and reason, he and some other such moles show in full the negative qualities
of vengeance, arrogance and aggrandisement. Mixed with great ignorance matched
by equal presumption. And a foul outlook upon human nature and the world. Sad.

Keep well, like the lotus flower among lotsa slime.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

> > *I* prefer our Western culture and society. *They* prefer ga
> > caliphate with Shira law. *You* prefer to live in fantasy land with
> > physics that allow ftl travel.
> 
> O looky, HVAC discovered his * key! Everybody DanSingħing Now now NOW?!  
>  
> Thanks for trying, HVAC. There exist more lifestyles than the two mere 
> Western culture and your one go to phrase: Shira law. The Shira's did it!!
> 
> Why not just divide and conquer USA by pitting Republican against Democrat? O wait...
> 
> FTL... Ever heard of Tachyons? Guess who thought them up. Bases all covered?!
> 
> > Go fuck yourself
> 
> Ahhh... the latest greatest newest phrase as HVAC signs while jerkingOff.
> 
> Speaking of signs, HVAC what was the name written on your College Board Signs?
> More importantly, did you shootByGun any one of them ...youKnow... signs?
> 
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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#639574 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 12:39:49 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> > 
> > <trim>
> > 
> > > The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand started WW1 which led to WW2. 
> > > 
> > > Have Westerners learnt nothing at all from that event? 
> > 
> > Ever study history in USA classrooms? USA is still in Kansas! Stuck, for evermore.
> 
> No I did not study history in USA classrooms. I hope you did not have that 
> misfortune. Or if you did, managed to work your way out of their 
> aggrandizing attitudes, such as their notion of "manifest destiny" which means
> they can kill and rob everything they possibly can.

I studied in India, until I was thirteen. In a USA High School, I took
History and European History. You know, there's only two kinds/sides. 

Two History classes. My History teacher was also my tennis team's
coach for four years while I was there -- Robert, was his first name. 
He used to do the fingersQuotesAction most always, while he was smilingly
lecturing/teaching. I love him! My European History had a broken left arm, 
perhaps a war injury, he too was just great! No tennis though. His arm.

There are a lot of nice/kind/smart/wise/... Western People. Who'd a thunck it?!

> > > > Bad and Good are always in a tussle in this world, but the worst
> > > > is to let 1 bad make the world awful for everyone else.
> > 
> > > Indeed, so it is of the greatest importance to get rid of all the bad ideas 
> > > started by Einstein et al. And go for the new and great idea of mine, that 
> > > will give humanity unlimited power and faster than light travel. 
> > 
> > Yours? Well, that's a little bit vain. But do go with it, BanerjeeJi!
> 
> Seeing how much I have personally suffered, and had the even greater suffering
> of hardship coming to my family as the consequence of my discovering in 1999
> a new formula linking mass and energy non-destructively, namely
> e=0.5mvvN(N-k), and being the only one in the world to push the consequences
> of that idea from 1999 to now, I believe I do have the right to that claim not
> in the conjectural sense but in the realistic practical and revolutionary
> sense. As presented in my book "To the Stars!" publised in my Internet site
> in 2000. Vanity - well all is vanity they say - but I do most strongly believe
> that my new formula along with its consequences will save the world from
> asteroid strike, and bring plenty to humanity in due course. Like from the 
> cave age to the present age, so it will be from the present age to the space
> age. Startrek realised! What I do, is for the safety and prosperity of my 
> children and grandchildren and their descendants and all their friends.

Look on The Dark Side, you end up saving bozos like HVAC! He he...

> As for going on with it, indeed I will and I do hope to get all the support
> I need from the good people of the world.

Well, that's asking for too much. In reality, it's The Anti-Social-Media.

> > > Cheers, 
> > > Arindam Banerjee 
> > > -----------
> > > 
> > > This is the typical kook/hippy mantra. Blame the USA. 
> > 
> > What in actual hell have you got against any hippy, you jerkingOffKookHVAC?
> > 
> > ArindamJi, HVAC is a mole. He's an implant. Ignore HVAC's actual words.
> 
> He sounds like an important devil as your friend benj went running and crying
> to him, trying to get me off sci.physics.electromag by such bullying. He is some
> kind of a moderator there and that does give him some importance. So far he
> has not been unduly unpleasant to me; at least not restricted my posts. Which
> is good, so I don't want to upset him too much.

HVAC is no moderator anywhere. HVAC can't even moderate himself.

I read your s.p.e link. Fwiw... Sir BenjJi is a wise man in a cloak of a
different colour. BenjJi's taunting/funny/respectful/musician/physicist/...
BenjJi's always been kind to me despite what my name reads/sounds like.
BenjJi puts up with, well knowing that I, me Me ME (Mechanical Engineer) in a physics NG!
 
> As to being a mole or an implant, indeed he could be that, for his vicious
> attitudes go against the best ethos of Western civilisation. That is, justice,
> compassion and reason. Justice from the Roman Empire, where the law was that
> a man is innocent until proven guilty. Compassion from Christianity with the
> most grand self-sacrifice of their god Jesus Christ. And Reason from the 
> Renaissance starting with Leonardo da Vinci. Instead of justice, compassion
> and reason, he and some other such moles show in full the negative qualities
> of vengeance, arrogance and aggrandisement. Mixed with great ignorance matched
> by equal presumption. And a foul outlook upon human nature and the world. Sad.

Not could be, HVAC is. He's here to undermine anybody and everybody. He's nuts.

Vengeance? Vengeance for what? For giving them math/music/spices/humour/wisdom/... ?!
One of me m(y) favourite Hindi songs is from movie Purab Aur Paschim==Pachhim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdmUuRELfWI Jab Zero Di(y)a Mere Bharat Ne...

> Keep well, like the lotus flower among lotsa slime.

I agree with that, we all have to float, HVAC is pure 100% proof slime.

> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#639724 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 11:34:09 PM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 12:39:49 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > 
> > > <trim>
> > > 
> > > > The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand started WW1 which led to WW2. 
> > > > 
> > > > Have Westerners learnt nothing at all from that event? 
> > > 
> > > Ever study history in USA classrooms? USA is still in Kansas! Stuck, for evermore.
> > 
> > No I did not study history in USA classrooms. I hope you did not have that 
> > misfortune. Or if you did, managed to work your way out of their 
> > aggrandizing attitudes, such as their notion of "manifest destiny" which means
> > they can kill and rob everything they possibly can.
> 
> I studied in India, until I was thirteen. In a USA High School, I took
> History and European History. You know, there's only two kinds/sides.

Indian history will be totally rewritten in due course. Practically all that
we learnt in school is wrong going by contemporary findings and thoughts.  
> 
> Two History classes. My History teacher was also my tennis team's
> coach for four years while I was there -- Robert, was his first name. 
> He used to do the fingersQuotesAction most always, while he was smilingly
> lecturing/teaching. I love him! My European History had a broken left arm, 
> perhaps a war injury, he too was just great! No tennis though. His arm.
> 
> There are a lot of nice/kind/smart/wise/... Western People. Who'd a thunck it?!

Oh, they can be all that to only those who they consider their own sort. It 
is only the highest Indian philosophy which considers all the same.

To various extents, this philosophy over time has permeated the best elements
in the West. Like the Jesuits who taught me, for instance. It has been 
commented that Indians find in Catholicism a strange religion which provides a
great education. How true. 

Now, this basic fact is impossible for the non-Indians to understand. Tribal, they are. I must add, most Indians are also like that, with their own
tribal/caste/sectarian/racial prerogatives. 

> > > > > Bad and Good are always in a tussle in this world, but the worst
> > > > > is to let 1 bad make the world awful for everyone else.
> > > 
> > > > Indeed, so it is of the greatest importance to get rid of all the bad ideas 
> > > > started by Einstein et al. And go for the new and great idea of mine, that 
> > > > will give humanity unlimited power and faster than light travel. 
> > > 
> > > Yours? Well, that's a little bit vain. But do go with it, BanerjeeJi!
> > 
> > Seeing how much I have personally suffered, and had the even greater suffering
> > of hardship coming to my family as the consequence of my discovering in 1999
> > a new formula linking mass and energy non-destructively, namely
> > e=0.5mvvN(N-k), and being the only one in the world to push the consequences
> > of that idea from 1999 to now, I believe I do have the right to that claim not
> > in the conjectural sense but in the realistic practical and revolutionary
> > sense. As presented in my book "To the Stars!" publised in my Internet site
> > in 2000. Vanity - well all is vanity they say - but I do most strongly believe
> > that my new formula along with its consequences will save the world from
> > asteroid strike, and bring plenty to humanity in due course. Like from the 
> > cave age to the present age, so it will be from the present age to the space
> > age. Startrek realised! What I do, is for the safety and prosperity of my 
> > children and grandchildren and their descendants and all their friends.
> 
> Look on The Dark Side, you end up saving bozos like HVAC! He he...

He too has his purpose in the world. The concept of Light cannot exist without
the Dark. 
For serenity and peace, the Dark should be a memory, and not a reality.

> > As for going on with it, indeed I will and I do hope to get all the support
> > I need from the good people of the world.
> 
> Well, that's asking for too much. In reality, it's The Anti-Social-Media.

Don't I know it. To these heartless and soulless sell-outs, the sneeze of a 
popular celebrity is a million times more important than anything I do.

At present I am watching a TV show on the last 100 days of Diana. How badly
the media hounded her, how her popularity in Australia led to her divorce with
the envious Charles, etc. Sad. The last decent person in the West, she could
not be allowed to exist, what.
> 
> > > > Cheers, 
> > > > Arindam Banerjee 
> > > > -----------
> > > > 
> > > > This is the typical kook/hippy mantra. Blame the USA. 
> > > 
> > > What in actual hell have you got against any hippy, you jerkingOffKookHVAC?
> > > 
> > > ArindamJi, HVAC is a mole. He's an implant. Ignore HVAC's actual words.
> > 
> > He sounds like an important devil as your friend benj went running and crying
> > to him, trying to get me off sci.physics.electromag by such bullying. He is some
> > kind of a moderator there and that does give him some importance. So far he
> > has not been unduly unpleasant to me; at least not restricted my posts. Which
> > is good, so I don't want to upset him too much.
> 
> HVAC is no moderator anywhere. HVAC can't even moderate himself.

Then why did benj run to him? In this evil world of ours, hvac has to be a
head honcho somewhere. 
> 
> I read your s.p.e link. Fwiw... Sir BenjJi is a wise man in a cloak of a
> different colour. BenjJi's taunting/funny/respectful/musician/physicist/...
> BenjJi's always been kind to me despite what my name reads/sounds like.
> BenjJi puts up with, well knowing that I, me Me ME (Mechanical Engineer) in a physics NG!

As a ME you bless this den of Einsteinian vipers with your constructive presence. I had lots of ME colleagues when I worked in the Antenna Dev. 
department in BEL Ghaziabad. One of them, Anil Lal, became the CMD. I learnt a
lot of structural stuff practicals from them. With such knowledge, I could make
the experimental apparatus showing that the Lorenz force has no reaction. It 
is with MEs, not the conjectural physicists, that my company will in due course
make ships several kilometres long, making their way through interstellar space.

Up MEs, down conjectural physicists.
>  
> > As to being a mole or an implant, indeed he could be that, for his vicious
> > attitudes go against the best ethos of Western civilisation. That is, justice,
> > compassion and reason. Justice from the Roman Empire, where the law was that
> > a man is innocent until proven guilty. Compassion from Christianity with the
> > most grand self-sacrifice of their god Jesus Christ. And Reason from the 
> > Renaissance starting with Leonardo da Vinci. Instead of justice, compassion
> > and reason, he and some other such moles show in full the negative qualities
> > of vengeance, arrogance and aggrandisement. Mixed with great ignorance matched
> > by equal presumption. And a foul outlook upon human nature and the world. Sad.
> 
> Not could be, HVAC is. He's here to undermine anybody and everybody. He's nuts.
> 
> Vengeance? Vengeance for what? For giving them math/music/spices/humour/wisdom/... ?!
> One of me m(y) favourite Hindi songs is from movie Purab Aur Paschim==Pachhim
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdmUuRELfWI Jab Zero Di(y)a Mere Bharat Ne...
> 
> > Keep well, like the lotus flower among lotsa slime.
> 
> I agree with that, we all have to float, HVAC is pure 100% proof slime.

He is a product of some strange mental disease.
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> 
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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#639734 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

Adrian Banjo says
Then why did benj run to him? In this evil world of ours, hvac has to be a 
head honcho somewhere. 
----------

Good and evil are points of view.

PS- I'm retired

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#639840 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On 7/10/2017 10:02 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Adrian Banjo says
> Then why did benj run to him? In this evil world of ours, hvac has to be a
> head honcho somewhere.
> ----------
> 
> Good and evil are points of view.
> 
> PS- I'm retired
> 

"Moderator Emeritus" Still with authority, natch.
But Latin was too much for Adrian Banjo.

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#639859 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 8:40:19 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 10:02 AM, HVAC wrote:
> > Adrian Banjo says
> > Then why did benj run to him? In this evil world of ours, hvac has to be a
> > head honcho somewhere.
> > ----------
> > 
> > Good and evil are points of view.
> > 
> > PS- I'm retired
> > 
> 
> "Moderator Emeritus" Still with authority, natch.
> But Latin was too much for Adrian Banjo.

I don't know why Mahipal had a good opinion about you, benj. I suppose he
did not figure out that you were playing the good cop routine.

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#639866 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

.... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... This is rich!... LOL
>
"Adrian Banjo <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
HVAC, then why did benj run to him? In this evil world of ours, 
HVAC has to be a head honcho somewhere.

From the evil Eisnteinian relativistic point of view.
From traditional points of view, good and evil are absolute.
Learning the difference between good and evil is what 
education leading to worthwhile civilisation is all about
>> > 
HVAC wrote:
Good and evil are points of view.
PS- I'm retarded
>> > 
Adrian Banjo says:
That makes you, HVAC all the more revolting, for the evil 
you propose is not for propitiating your evil bosses for 
your own survival. It is a projection of your own vicious 
and twisted nature, arising from the absolute 
qualities of arrogance, ignorance and paranoia.
>
benj wrote:
"Moderator Emeritus" HVAC is still with authority, natch.
But Latin was too much for Adrian Banjo.
> 
Adrian Banjo says:
I don't know why Mahipal had a good opinion about you, benj. 
suppose he did not figure out that you were playing the 
good cop routine.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee aka "Arse in damned Bandicoot" 
>
hanson wrote:
Dudes, don't stop but do carry on with your profound
3-way discussion. Thanks for the laughs, guys!... ahahahanson

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#639869 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:24:13 PM UTC-4, hanson wrote:
> .... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... This is rich!... LOL
> >
> "Adrian Banjo <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> HVAC, then why did benj run to him? In this evil world of ours, 
> HVAC has to be a head honcho somewhere.
> 
> From the evil Eisnteinian relativistic point of view.
> From traditional points of view, good and evil are absolute.
> Learning the difference between good and evil is what 
> education leading to worthwhile civilisation is all about
> >> > 
> HVAC wrote:
> Good and evil are points of view.
> PS- I'm retarded

He he... HVAC's retarded! Too good.

> >> > 
> Adrian Banjo says:
> That makes you, HVAC all the more revolting, for the evil 
> you propose is not for propitiating your evil bosses for 
> your own survival. It is a projection of your own vicious 
> and twisted nature, arising from the absolute 
> qualities of arrogance, ignorance and paranoia.

That's well put, BanerjeeJi. I wish I'd written that!

> benj wrote:
> "Moderator Emeritus" HVAC is still with authority, natch.
> But Latin was too much for Adrian Banjo.
> > 
> Adrian Banjo says:
> I don't know why Mahipal had a good opinion about you, benj. 
> suppose he did not figure out that you were playing the 
> good cop routine.

BanerjeeJi, I relate with and understand Sir BenjJi very well!
Retarded HVAC's even accused me of having a bromance with BenjJi. History.

> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee aka "Arse in damned Bandicoot" 
> >
> hanson wrote:
> Dudes, don't stop but do carry on with your profound
> 3-way discussion. Thanks for the laughs, guys!... ahahahanson

It is a bit too funny, this discussion, Sir hansonJi!
New posters ought realize that other regular posters have a history.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#639871 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

.... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... This is even richer!... LOL

"Mahipal" Virdy <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote
>
> "Adrian Banjo <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
HVAC, then why did benj run to him [1] ? In this evil world of ours,
HVAC has to be a head honcho somewhere.
>
From the evil Eisnteinian relativistic point of view.
From traditional points of view, good and evil are absolute.
Learning the difference between good and evil is what
education leading to worthwhile civilisation is all about
> >> >
HVAC wrote:
Good and evil are points of view.
PS- I'm retarded
>
Virdy wrote:
He he... HVAC's retarded! Too good.
>
Adrian Banjo says:
That makes you, HVAC all the more revolting, for the evil
you propose is not for propitiating your evil bosses for
your own survival. It is a projection of your own vicious
and twisted nature, arising from the absolute
qualities of arrogance, ignorance and paranoia.


Virdy wrote:
That's well put, BanerjeeJi. I wish I'd written that!
>
hanson wrote:
VirdyJi have you barged in cuz that "him" [1] referred to you?
>
benj wrote:
HVAC the "Moderator Emeritus" is still with authority, natch.
But Latin was too much for Adrian Banjo.
> >
Adrian Banjo says:
I don't know why Mahipal had a good opinion about you, benj.
suppose he did not figure out that you were playing the
good cop routine.


Virdy wrote:
BanerjeeJi, I relate with and understand Sir BenjJi very well!
Retarded HVAC's even accused me of having a bromance
with BenjJi. History.
>
hanson wrote:
Dudes, don't stop but do carry on with your profound
3-way discussion. Thanks for the laughs, guys!... ahahahanson
>
Virdy wrote:
It is a bit too funny, this discussion, Sir hansonJi!
New posters ought realize that other regular posters have a history.
-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon 
Grasshopper Mode...”
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM 
somePlace.
>
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee aka "Arse in damned Bandicoot"
>
hanson wrote:
Now that we have here a full quartette, things ought to get
even better... much to the delight of the one you, Virdy,
 call "BanerjeeJi," which parses into "Baner" & "jeeJi,"  where
"Bane" is def as: "a cause of great distress or annoyance"...
>
ROTFLMAO... AHAHAHAHAHA...: 

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#639909 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:56:20 AM UTC+10, hanson wrote:
> .... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... This is even richer!... LOL
> 
> "Mahipal" Virdy <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote
> >
> > "Adrian Banjo <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> HVAC, then why did benj run to him [1] ? In this evil world of ours,
> HVAC has to be a head honcho somewhere.
> >
> From the evil Eisnteinian relativistic point of view.
> From traditional points of view, good and evil are absolute.
> Learning the difference between good and evil is what
> education leading to worthwhile civilisation is all about
> > >> >
> HVAC wrote:
> Good and evil are points of view.
> PS- I'm retarded
> >
> Virdy wrote:
> He he... HVAC's retarded! Too good.
> >
> Adrian Banjo says:
> That makes you, HVAC all the more revolting, for the evil
> you propose is not for propitiating your evil bosses for
> your own survival. It is a projection of your own vicious
> and twisted nature, arising from the absolute
> qualities of arrogance, ignorance and paranoia.
> 
> 
> Virdy wrote:
> That's well put, BanerjeeJi. I wish I'd written that!
> >
> hanson wrote:
> VirdyJi have you barged in cuz that "him" [1] referred to you?
> >
> benj wrote:
> HVAC the "Moderator Emeritus" is still with authority, natch.
> But Latin was too much for Adrian Banjo.
> > >
> Adrian Banjo says:
> I don't know why Mahipal had a good opinion about you, benj.
> suppose he did not figure out that you were playing the
> good cop routine.
> 
> 
> Virdy wrote:
> BanerjeeJi, I relate with and understand Sir BenjJi very well!
> Retarded HVAC's even accused me of having a bromance
> with BenjJi. History.
> >
> hanson wrote:
> Dudes, don't stop but do carry on with your profound
> 3-way discussion. Thanks for the laughs, guys!... ahahahanson
> >
> Virdy wrote:
> It is a bit too funny, this discussion, Sir hansonJi!
> New posters ought realize that other regular posters have a history.
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon 
> Grasshopper Mode...”
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM 
> somePlace.
> >
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee aka "Arse in damned Bandicoot"
> >
> hanson wrote:
> Now that we have here a full quartette, things ought to get
> even better... much to the delight of the one you, Virdy,
>  call "BanerjeeJi," which parses into "Baner" & "jeeJi,"  where
> "Bane" is def as: "a cause of great distress or annoyance"...

Oy, I am always so well-meaning am I not.
> >
> ROTFLMAO... AHAHAHAHAHA...:

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#639914 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:56:20 PM UTC-4, hanson wrote:
> .... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... This is even richer!... LOL
> 
> "Mahipal" Virdy <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote
> >
> > "Adrian Banjo <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> HVAC, then why did benj run to him [1] ? In this evil world of ours,
> HVAC has to be a head honcho somewhere.
> >
> From the evil Eisnteinian relativistic point of view.
> From traditional points of view, good and evil are absolute.
> Learning the difference between good and evil is what
> education leading to worthwhile civilisation is all about
> > >> >
> HVAC wrote:
> Good and evil are points of view.
> PS- I'm retarded
> >
> Virdy wrote:
> He he... HVAC's retarded! Too good.
> >
> Adrian Banjo says:
> That makes you, HVAC all the more revolting, for the evil
> you propose is not for propitiating your evil bosses for
> your own survival. It is a projection of your own vicious
> and twisted nature, arising from the absolute
> qualities of arrogance, ignorance and paranoia.
> 
> Virdy wrote:
> That's well put, BanerjeeJi. I wish I'd written that!
> >
> hanson wrote:
> VirdyJi have you barged in cuz that "him" [1] referred to you?

No, [1] does not refer to me. It's BanjoJi pondering HVAC+BenjJi connection.

> benj wrote:
> HVAC the "Moderator Emeritus" is still with authority, natch.
> But Latin was too much for Adrian Banjo.
> > >
> Adrian Banjo says:
> I don't know why Mahipal had a good opinion about you, benj.
> suppose he did not figure out that you were playing the
> good cop routine.
> 
> Virdy wrote:
> BanerjeeJi, I relate with and understand Sir BenjJi very well!
> Retarded HVAC's even accused me of having a bromance
> with BenjJi. History.
> >
> hanson wrote:
> Dudes, don't stop but do carry on with your profound
> 3-way discussion. Thanks for the laughs, guys!... ahahahanson
> >
> Virdy wrote:
> It is a bit too funny, this discussion, Sir hansonJi!
> New posters ought realize that other regular posters have a history.
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon 
> Grasshopper Mode...”
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM 
> somePlace.
> >
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee aka "Arse in damned Bandicoot"
> >
> hanson wrote:
> Now that we have here a full quartette, things ought to get
> even better... much to the delight of the one you, Virdy,
>  call "BanerjeeJi," which parses into "Baner" & "jeeJi,"  where
> "Bane" is def as: "a cause of great distress or annoyance"...

Bane?! He he... too funny. Afterall, how much bane can one man do?! Wink^3!
I live by this Motto: A rose by any other name would still have thorns.

> ROTFLMAO... AHAHAHAHAHA...:

I love the jeeJi in BanerjeeJi! Sounds like Ji squared! JeeJee.
Jee==Ji, phonetically, is a term of respect in India, hansonJeeJi!
I think it means live long. Jee==Ji is perhaps from Jeevan==Life.
AFAIK, transliteration is not, never will be, an exact science/math.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”  
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#639857 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 12:02:29 AM UTC+10, HVAC wrote:
> Adrian Banjo says
> Then why did benj run to him? In this evil world of ours, hvac has to be a 
> head honcho somewhere. 
> ----------
> 
> Good and evil are points of view.

From the evil Eisnteinian relativistic point of view.
From traditional points of view, good and evil are absolute.
Learning the difference between good and evil is what education leading to
worthwhile civilisation is all about.
> 
> PS- I'm retired

That makes you all the more revolting, for the evil you propose is not
for propitiating your evil bosses for your own survival. It is a projection
of your own vicious and twisted nature, arising from the absolute 
qualities of arrogance, ignorance and paranoia.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#639870 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:47:31 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 11:34:09 PM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 12:39:49 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > 
> > > > <trim>
> > > > 
> > > > > The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand started WW1 which led to WW2. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have Westerners learnt nothing at all from that event? 
> > > > 
> > > > Ever study history in USA classrooms? USA is still in Kansas! Stuck, for evermore.
> > > 
> > > No I did not study history in USA classrooms. I hope you did not have that 
> > > misfortune. Or if you did, managed to work your way out of their 
> > > aggrandizing attitudes, such as their notion of "manifest destiny" which means
> > > they can kill and rob everything they possibly can.
> > 
> > I studied in India, until I was thirteen. In a USA High School, I took
> > History and European History. You know, there's only two kinds/sides.
> 
> Indian history will be totally rewritten in due course. Practically all that
> we learnt in school is wrong going by contemporary findings and thoughts.  

I'm fairly sure no accurate history of humans can ever be (re Re RE)written, ever.
My DaddyJi is an amazingly great Historian/Economist/Human. I listen to him, a lot.
 
> > Two History classes. My History teacher was also my tennis team's
> > coach for four years while I was there -- Robert, was his first name. 
> > He used to do the fingersQuotesAction most always, while he was smilingly
> > lecturing/teaching. I love him! My European History had a broken left arm, 
> > perhaps a war injury, he too was just great! No tennis though. His arm.
> > 
> > There are a lot of nice/kind/smart/wise/... Western People. Who'd a thunck it?!
> 
> Oh, they can be all that to only those who they consider their own sort. It 
> is only the highest Indian philosophy which considers all the same.

We all know that to be true, still, calm down. Breathe deep. Quench your soul.

> To various extents, this philosophy over time has permeated the best elements
> in the West. Like the Jesuits who taught me, for instance. It has been 
> commented that Indians find in Catholicism a strange religion which provides a
> great education. How true. 

I try to learn from everyone I get a chance to meet or read, in me m(y) life.
Jesuits, Catholics, Jews, Christians, Krishnas, Buddhists, Sikhs, TennisPlayers, ...
It's really a long grocery list of human belief systems. I do The Science 2 c me!

My Xwife, Indian/Hindu Catholic School educated in Delhi... what a ...youKnow!
Ever watch/study The Exorcist? Well don't Don't DON'T. I mean never ever.

> Now, this basic fact is impossible for the non-Indians to
> understand. Tribal, they are. I must add, most Indians are also like
> that, with their own tribal/caste/sectarian/racial prerogatives.

Ancient Indians invented/perfected Their Caste System! This girl, not for you!
But we do have a few goats and sheep for about 52 Rupees each. Interested?

> > > > > > Bad and Good are always in a tussle in this world, but the worst
> > > > > > is to let 1 bad make the world awful for everyone else.
> > > > 
> > > > > Indeed, so it is of the greatest importance to get rid of all the bad ideas 
> > > > > started by Einstein et al. And go for the new and great idea of mine, that 
> > > > > will give humanity unlimited power and faster than light travel. 
> > > > 
> > > > Yours? Well, that's a little bit vain. But do go with it, BanerjeeJi!
> > > 
> > > Seeing how much I have personally suffered, and had the even greater suffering
> > > of hardship coming to my family as the consequence of my discovering in 1999
> > > a new formula linking mass and energy non-destructively, namely
> > > e=0.5mvvN(N-k), and being the only one in the world to push the consequences
> > > of that idea from 1999 to now, I believe I do have the right to that claim not
> > > in the conjectural sense but in the realistic practical and revolutionary
> > > sense. As presented in my book "To the Stars!" publised in my Internet site
> > > in 2000. Vanity - well all is vanity they say - but I do most strongly believe
> > > that my new formula along with its consequences will save the world from
> > > asteroid strike, and bring plenty to humanity in due course. Like from the 
> > > cave age to the present age, so it will be from the present age to the space
> > > age. Startrek realised! What I do, is for the safety and prosperity of my 
> > > children and grandchildren and their descendants and all their friends.
> > 
> > Look on The Dark Side, you end up saving bozos like HVAC! He he...
> 
> He too has his purpose in the world. The concept of Light cannot
> exist without the Dark.  For serenity and peace, the Dark should be
> a memory, and not a reality.

Ever hear the poem/song Ek Andhera Lakh Sitare (== One Darkness, Millions of Stars)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyfxAzIWxFo Ek==One Andhera==Darkness... so great!
I've posted this song/link before, but not too many learned Hindus here. O(y)e...

> > > As for going on with it, indeed I will and I do hope to get all the support
> > > I need from the good people of the world.
> > 
> > Well, that's asking for too much. In reality, it's The Anti-Social-Media.
> 
> Don't I know it. To these heartless and soulless sell-outs, the sneeze of a 
> popular celebrity is a million times more important than anything I do.

That's true the whole Earth over. Celebrities are mass marketed products.
Marketing Majors are the greatest liars of all, even greater than Politicians.
Even greater liars the whole Earth over? Glad you asked, The TrumpETs all!
The real question is: Why do liars with short ADD, think we all suffer it?

ADD? Attention Deficit Disorder. In case I/You/We/Them/... just forgot.

> At present I am watching a TV show on the last 100 days of Diana. How badly
> the media hounded her, how her popularity in Australia led to her divorce with
> the envious Charles, etc. Sad. The last decent person in the West, she could
> not be allowed to exist, what.

I remember the day Diana died. In a billionaire's car crash, in a French tunnel.
I still find the accident story by a alleged drunk chauffeur very suspicious/fishy.

> > > > > Cheers, 
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee 
> > > > > -----------
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is the typical kook/hippy mantra. Blame the USA. 
> > > > 
> > > > What in actual hell have you got against any hippy, you jerkingOffKookHVAC?
> > > > 
> > > > ArindamJi, HVAC is a mole. He's an implant. Ignore HVAC's actual words.
> > > 
> > > He sounds like an important devil as your friend benj went running and crying
> > > to him, trying to get me off sci.physics.electromag by such bullying. He is some
> > > kind of a moderator there and that does give him some importance. So far he
> > > has not been unduly unpleasant to me; at least not restricted my posts. Which
> > > is good, so I don't want to upset him too much.
> > 
> > HVAC is no moderator anywhere. HVAC can't even moderate himself.
> 
> Then why did benj run to him? In this evil world of ours, hvac has to be a
> head honcho somewhere. 

Well, most all NGs are a small community, especially smaller if associated
with physics. HVAC most always stalks BJ. No, don't bother reading the
history of HVAC's useless posts. How many? Well all of them really.
HVAC's, I think, a Catholic. He's always projecting onto BenjJi about
how he believes in esp, ghosts, and aliens. HVAC never writes in the
first person mode of discussion. Have I used HVAC's name too often? He he...

Hey HVAC, did you go fishing when you went to college? Again, where?
Illuminati then do the car driving dramatically dance... Angels & Demons... 

> > I read your s.p.e link. Fwiw... Sir BenjJi is a wise man in a cloak of a
> > different colour. BenjJi's taunting/funny/respectful/musician/physicist/...
> > BenjJi's always been kind to me despite what my name reads/sounds like.
> > BenjJi puts up with, well knowing that I, me Me ME (Mechanical Engineer) in a physics NG!
> 
> As a ME you bless this den of Einsteinian vipers with your
> constructive presence. I had lots of ME colleagues when I worked in
> the Antenna Dev.  department in BEL Ghaziabad. One of them, Anil
> Lal, became the CMD. I learnt a lot of structural stuff practicals
> from them. With such knowledge, I could make the experimental
> apparatus showing that the Lorenz force has no reaction. It is with
> MEs, not the conjectural physicists, that my company will in due
> course make ships several kilometres long, making their way through
> interstellar space.
>
> Up MEs, down conjectural physicists.

Well thank you very much for that kindness, BanerjeeJi. I'm proud to be a ME!

Somewhere when (1987) I was about to finish my ME PhD in Thermodynamics 
and Fluid Dynamics, not that structural division of being an ME, I
fell/stumbled serendipitously onto a catchy cute |meforce> idea. 
Suddenly I invested all me m(y) time studying in the Physics Department.
Got a Aerospace job near Princeton U. Took graduate classes near Jadwin Hall.

For like my 7+ years of study, I had a habit of writing ENME-###
to identify which course the notes applied to. ENME is UMCP speak
for ENgineeringMEchanical. For EE, it was/is ENEE, and so on...
http://www.enme.umd.edu is UMCP's current/latest/greatest website.
I know nobody on UMCP's current ENME staff listing. I wonder why?

Time's greatest conspiracy against humanity: All==We Must Die (WMD)?!

ENME now sounds like ENME(y) to me. I recently rewatched an original
William Shatner as Captain Kirk in Star Trek reruns titled “The Enemy
Within.” Great episode.  Due to a transporter malfunction, Kirk gets
split into two selves, one evil and one good. Still, this time I kept
thinking, why not just land a shuttle on the frozen planet to go pick
up the stranded crew?! So what if the transporter is busted?! Drama?

You're correct about thereHere being Einsteinian vipers! I call EinStein OneStone.
These days most people are tired of the myth of OneStone being the smartest ever!

> > > As to being a mole or an implant, indeed he could be that, for his vicious
> > > attitudes go against the best ethos of Western civilisation. That is, justice,
> > > compassion and reason. Justice from the Roman Empire, where the law was that
> > > a man is innocent until proven guilty. Compassion from Christianity with the
> > > most grand self-sacrifice of their god Jesus Christ. And Reason from the 
> > > Renaissance starting with Leonardo da Vinci. Instead of justice, compassion
> > > and reason, he and some other such moles show in full the negative qualities
> > > of vengeance, arrogance and aggrandisement. Mixed with great ignorance matched
> > > by equal presumption. And a foul outlook upon human nature and the world. Sad.
> > 
> > Not could be, HVAC is. He's here to undermine anybody and everybody. He's nuts.
> > 
> > Vengeance? Vengeance for what? For giving them math/music/spices/humour/wisdom/... ?!
> > One of me m(y) favourite Hindi songs is from movie Purab Aur Paschim==Pachhim
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdmUuRELfWI Jab Zero Di(y)a Mere Bharat Ne...
> > 
> > > Keep well, like the lotus flower among lotsa slime.
> > 
> > I agree with that, we all have to float, HVAC is pure 100% proof slime.
> 
> He is a product of some strange mental disease.

There's definitely something untoward about HVAC. Hey... Got any college, HVAC?

> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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#639908 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:35:26 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:47:31 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 11:34:09 PM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 12:39:49 AM UTC+10, Mahipal wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > 
> > > > > <trim>
> > > > > 
> > > > > > The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand started WW1 which led to WW2. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Have Westerners learnt nothing at all from that event? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ever study history in USA classrooms? USA is still in Kansas! Stuck, for evermore.
> > > > 
> > > > No I did not study history in USA classrooms. I hope you did not have that 
> > > > misfortune. Or if you did, managed to work your way out of their 
> > > > aggrandizing attitudes, such as their notion of "manifest destiny" which means
> > > > they can kill and rob everything they possibly can.
> > > 
> > > I studied in India, until I was thirteen. In a USA High School, I took
> > > History and European History. You know, there's only two kinds/sides.
> > 
> > Indian history will be totally rewritten in due course. Practically all that
> > we learnt in school is wrong going by contemporary findings and thoughts.  
> 
> I'm fairly sure no accurate history of humans can ever be (re Re RE)written, ever.
> My DaddyJi is an amazingly great Historian/Economist/Human. I listen to him, a lot.
>  
> > > Two History classes. My History teacher was also my tennis team's
> > > coach for four years while I was there -- Robert, was his first name. 
> > > He used to do the fingersQuotesAction most always, while he was smilingly
> > > lecturing/teaching. I love him! My European History had a broken left arm, 
> > > perhaps a war injury, he too was just great! No tennis though. His arm.
> > > 
> > > There are a lot of nice/kind/smart/wise/... Western People. Who'd a thunck it?!
> > 
> > Oh, they can be all that to only those who they consider their own sort. It 
> > is only the highest Indian philosophy which considers all the same.
> 
> We all know that to be true, still, calm down. Breathe deep. Quench your soul.
> 
> > To various extents, this philosophy over time has permeated the best elements
> > in the West. Like the Jesuits who taught me, for instance. It has been 
> > commented that Indians find in Catholicism a strange religion which provides a
> > great education. How true. 
> 
> I try to learn from everyone I get a chance to meet or read, in me m(y) life.
> Jesuits, Catholics, Jews, Christians, Krishnas, Buddhists, Sikhs, TennisPlayers, ...
> It's really a long grocery list of human belief systems. I do The Science 2 c me!
> 
> My Xwife, Indian/Hindu Catholic School educated in Delhi... what a ...youKnow!
> Ever watch/study The Exorcist? Well don't Don't DON'T. I mean never ever.
> 
> > Now, this basic fact is impossible for the non-Indians to
> > understand. Tribal, they are. I must add, most Indians are also like
> > that, with their own tribal/caste/sectarian/racial prerogatives.
> 
> Ancient Indians invented/perfected Their Caste System! This girl, not for you!
> But we do have a few goats and sheep for about 52 Rupees each. Interested?
> 
> > > > > > > Bad and Good are always in a tussle in this world, but the worst
> > > > > > > is to let 1 bad make the world awful for everyone else.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Indeed, so it is of the greatest importance to get rid of all the bad ideas 
> > > > > > started by Einstein et al. And go for the new and great idea of mine, that 
> > > > > > will give humanity unlimited power and faster than light travel. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yours? Well, that's a little bit vain. But do go with it, BanerjeeJi!
> > > > 
> > > > Seeing how much I have personally suffered, and had the even greater suffering
> > > > of hardship coming to my family as the consequence of my discovering in 1999
> > > > a new formula linking mass and energy non-destructively, namely
> > > > e=0.5mvvN(N-k), and being the only one in the world to push the consequences
> > > > of that idea from 1999 to now, I believe I do have the right to that claim not
> > > > in the conjectural sense but in the realistic practical and revolutionary
> > > > sense. As presented in my book "To the Stars!" publised in my Internet site
> > > > in 2000. Vanity - well all is vanity they say - but I do most strongly believe
> > > > that my new formula along with its consequences will save the world from
> > > > asteroid strike, and bring plenty to humanity in due course. Like from the 
> > > > cave age to the present age, so it will be from the present age to the space
> > > > age. Startrek realised! What I do, is for the safety and prosperity of my 
> > > > children and grandchildren and their descendants and all their friends.
> > > 
> > > Look on The Dark Side, you end up saving bozos like HVAC! He he...
> > 
> > He too has his purpose in the world. The concept of Light cannot
> > exist without the Dark.  For serenity and peace, the Dark should be
> > a memory, and not a reality.
> 
> Ever hear the poem/song Ek Andhera Lakh Sitare (== One Darkness, Millions of Stars)?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyfxAzIWxFo Ek==One Andhera==Darkness... so great!
> I've posted this song/link before, but not too many learned Hindus here. O(y)e...

I will look into this. If one had an eye as big as the Sun one could see no 
space at all but all the stars in the universe in one solid mass of brilliance.
Heavenly! 


> > > > As for going on with it, indeed I will and I do hope to get all the support
> > > > I need from the good people of the world.
> > > 
> > > Well, that's asking for too much. In reality, it's The Anti-Social-Media.
> > 
> > Don't I know it. To these heartless and soulless sell-outs, the sneeze of a 
> > popular celebrity is a million times more important than anything I do.
> 
> That's true the whole Earth over. Celebrities are mass marketed products.
> Marketing Majors are the greatest liars of all, even greater than Politicians.
> Even greater liars the whole Earth over? Glad you asked, The TrumpETs all!
> The real question is: Why do liars with short ADD, think we all suffer it?
> 
> ADD? Attention Deficit Disorder. In case I/You/We/Them/... just forgot.

Good question. My answer is, that in our history at one stage learned people
in power and authority were automatically respected. The masses are following
blind habit by idolising the pumped-up celebs. There is not much difference
between sheep and people. All the head honchos of organised religions know this
basic fact. Repeat any lie repeatedly, decorate it with buildings, make 
bearded figures say it impressively, then it becomes supreme truth for which
they will not just give their lives but also their money. In a secular age,
the pop merchants have replaced the beardos.

It does not work on everyone, but those few who do not buy their nonsenses are
of course too few in number, disorganised, poor, etc. so they can be ignored
and discreetly persecuted as necessary. Good ideas from them are not welcome 
as they will show up the ruling ideologues as nincompoops if not criminals.

Such is the situation as I find it, and the way the world works, it should 
last indefinitely. However the world does change fast - no one in 1913 thought
there would be two world wars coming up. One great mishap could be all that 
takes to upset the apple cart.
> 
> > At present I am watching a TV show on the last 100 days of Diana. How badly
> > the media hounded her, how her popularity in Australia led to her divorce with
> > the envious Charles, etc. Sad. The last decent person in the West, she could
> > not be allowed to exist, what.
> 
> I remember the day Diana died. In a billionaire's car crash, in a French tunnel.
> I still find the accident story by a alleged drunk chauffeur very suspicious/fishy.

Yes. Dodi's father thinks so, too. 
> 
> > > > > > Cheers, 
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee 
> > > > > > -----------
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is the typical kook/hippy mantra. Blame the USA. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What in actual hell have you got against any hippy, you jerkingOffKookHVAC?
> > > > > 
> > > > > ArindamJi, HVAC is a mole. He's an implant. Ignore HVAC's actual words.
> > > > 
> > > > He sounds like an important devil as your friend benj went running and crying
> > > > to him, trying to get me off sci.physics.electromag by such bullying. He is some
> > > > kind of a moderator there and that does give him some importance. So far he
> > > > has not been unduly unpleasant to me; at least not restricted my posts. Which
> > > > is good, so I don't want to upset him too much.
> > > 
> > > HVAC is no moderator anywhere. HVAC can't even moderate himself.
> > 
> > Then why did benj run to him? In this evil world of ours, hvac has to be a
> > head honcho somewhere. 
> 
> Well, most all NGs are a small community, especially smaller if associated
> with physics. HVAC most always stalks BJ. No, don't bother reading the
> history of HVAC's useless posts. How many? Well all of them really.
> HVAC's, I think, a Catholic. He's always projecting onto BenjJi about
> how he believes in esp, ghosts, and aliens. HVAC never writes in the
> first person mode of discussion. Have I used HVAC's name too often? He he...

I did think when I joined Usenet that there were millions of lurkers around who
lapped up every written word by the few players. I got that impression when
I read the terms and conditions that clearly stated that whatever we write can
be read by millions for all time to come and we should remember this. So have
the millions of possible lurkers never there to begin with, or have they 
suddenly been born to live in the non-usenet cyberworld like fb and twitter?
Some data will be welcome here.
> 
> Hey HVAC, did you go fishing when you went to college? Again, where?
> Illuminati then do the car driving dramatically dance... Angels & Demons... 
> 
> > > I read your s.p.e link. Fwiw... Sir BenjJi is a wise man in a cloak of a
> > > different colour. BenjJi's taunting/funny/respectful/musician/physicist/...
> > > BenjJi's always been kind to me despite what my name reads/sounds like.
> > > BenjJi puts up with, well knowing that I, me Me ME (Mechanical Engineer) in a physics NG!
> > 
> > As a ME you bless this den of Einsteinian vipers with your
> > constructive presence. I had lots of ME colleagues when I worked in
> > the Antenna Dev.  department in BEL Ghaziabad. One of them, Anil
> > Lal, became the CMD. I learnt a lot of structural stuff practicals
> > from them. With such knowledge, I could make the experimental
> > apparatus showing that the Lorenz force has no reaction. It is with
> > MEs, not the conjectural physicists, that my company will in due
> > course make ships several kilometres long, making their way through
> > interstellar space.
> >
> > Up MEs, down conjectural physicists.
> 
> Well thank you very much for that kindness, BanerjeeJi. I'm proud to be a ME!

As you should be. You guys make the world go round, right for at the end of the
days it is all ME right from the draftsman to the machinist.
> 
> Somewhere when (1987) I was about to finish my ME PhD in Thermodynamics 
> and Fluid Dynamics, not that structural division of being an ME, I
> fell/stumbled serendipitously onto a catchy cute |meforce> idea. 
> Suddenly I invested all me m(y) time studying in the Physics Department.
> Got a Aerospace job near Princeton U. Took graduate classes near Jadwin Hall.
> 
> For like my 7+ years of study, I had a habit of writing ENME-###
> to identify which course the notes applied to. ENME is UMCP speak
> for ENgineeringMEchanical. For EE, it was/is ENEE, and so on...
> http://www.enme.umd.edu is UMCP's current/latest/greatest website.
> I know nobody on UMCP's current ENME staff listing. I wonder why?

I had to get a job after doing my BTech from IITKgP and then did MTEch in CS
part time from IITD. I did PhD studies for 3.5 years at RMIT, but could not
complete due to matters I'd better not discuss in public. Anyway, that 
study was not wasted, for it was useful to make some video films showing off
my ideas about energy and motion that I have been talking about for the last
18 years. But I suppose you know this, for I have given out the links for the
videos on youtube on this and other ngs. I need to do a few more experiments
before I try to get support from the established institutions. There is a small
chance they the IFE may be practical at lower currents, not in the order of
millions of amps as is the present state.
> 
> Time's greatest conspiracy against humanity: All==We Must Die (WMD)?!
> 
> ENME now sounds like ENME(y) to me. I recently rewatched an original
> William Shatner as Captain Kirk in Star Trek reruns titled “The Enemy
> Within.” Great episode.  Due to a transporter malfunction, Kirk gets
> split into two selves, one evil and one good. Still, this time I kept
> thinking, why not just land a shuttle on the frozen planet to go pick
> up the stranded crew?! So what if the transporter is busted?! Drama?

Laziness? I don't like the transporter stuff as that is really unscientific.
Star Trek would be much better without the e=mcc crap.
It may be that I have to take to scifi writing to make my new ideas in 
physics popular.
Not a bad idea, that.
> 
> You're correct about thereHere being Einsteinian vipers! I call EinStein OneStone.
> These days most people are tired of the myth of OneStone being the smartest ever!

Thank goodness. Here Tesla is making a huge comeback. There is one Elon Musk
who had made a Tesla car and my children's generation are very keen about that.
> 
> > > > As to being a mole or an implant, indeed he could be that, for his vicious
> > > > attitudes go against the best ethos of Western civilisation. That is, justice,
> > > > compassion and reason. Justice from the Roman Empire, where the law was that
> > > > a man is innocent until proven guilty. Compassion from Christianity with the
> > > > most grand self-sacrifice of their god Jesus Christ. And Reason from the 
> > > > Renaissance starting with Leonardo da Vinci. Instead of justice, compassion
> > > > and reason, he and some other such moles show in full the negative qualities
> > > > of vengeance, arrogance and aggrandisement. Mixed with great ignorance matched
> > > > by equal presumption. And a foul outlook upon human nature and the world. Sad.
> > > 
> > > Not could be, HVAC is. He's here to undermine anybody and everybody. He's nuts.
> > > 
> > > Vengeance? Vengeance for what? For giving them math/music/spices/humour/wisdom/... ?!
> > > One of me m(y) favourite Hindi songs is from movie Purab Aur Paschim==Pachhim
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdmUuRELfWI Jab Zero Di(y)a Mere Bharat Ne...
> > > 
> > > > Keep well, like the lotus flower among lotsa slime.
> > > 
> > > I agree with that, we all have to float, HVAC is pure 100% proof slime.
> > 
> > He is a product of some strange mental disease.
> 
> There's definitely something untoward about HVAC. Hey... Got any college, HVAC?
> 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee
> 
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon Grasshopper Mode...” 
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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#639915 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

Adrian Banjo says
I will look into this. If one had an eye as big as the Sun one could see no 
space at all but all the stars in the universe in one solid mass of brilliance. 
Heavenly! 
------------

Loopy, where the fuck did you dig up this glue sniffing, homosexual, fruit loop? Oh wait, let me guess... He's an injun?

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#639920 — Re: do as the Romans did//and why they lasted 1,000 years as rulers Re: Options On North Korea

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 7:11:08 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> Adrian Banjo says
>> I will look into this. If one had an eye as big as the Sun one could see no 
>> space at all but all the stars in the universe in one solid mass of brilliance. 
>> Heavenly! 
> ------------
> 
> Loopy, where the fuck did you dig up this glue sniffing, homosexual,
> fruit loop? Oh wait, let me guess... He's an injun?

BanjoJi is of Indian Origin, living in Australia. He has his family photos on FB.

Hey, speaking of... you RetardedHVAC have any family? Got any College history?

If you HVAC didn't know, now there are like 1.5 billion Indians on Earth.

IIRC, HVAC your elders after killing all the injuns, then began The Civil War.
Too many bullets?! What to do with all them bullets? Kill brothers! Yippee ki-yay!

No I did not dig anybody up, but I look forward to the day you HVAC get buried. Let us pray...

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”  
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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