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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2017-06-09 11:38 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-06-25 14:26 -0700 |
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the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-09 11:38 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-09 13:36 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-09 13:50 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-10 10:55 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-10 11:18 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 12:18 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-10 13:15 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-12 09:40 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:26 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong mosca.muha@gmail.com - 2017-06-13 07:29 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 15:20 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-13 17:03 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-13 20:56 -0400
Re: the speed of light is wrong Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-06-18 14:07 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 12:31 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-06-27 15:39 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-15 09:34 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-16 01:36 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-22 10:53 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-23 11:12 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-25 10:51 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-25 19:04 +0100
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-25 11:30 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-25 19:38 +0100
Re: the speed of light is wrong "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 15:15 -0400
Re: the speed of light is wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:45 +0200
Re: the speed of light is wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:56 +0200
Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-27 12:15 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-27 12:21 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-27 16:22 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-27 20:36 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-27 21:00 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-27 21:10 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-27 21:52 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-29 09:55 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-27 16:20 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 05:22 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:15 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-26 12:08 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:42 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-11 20:51 +1000
Re: the speed of light is wrong Cujo DeSockpuppet <cujo@petitmorte.net> - 2017-06-12 19:54 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:20 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-12 12:31 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-09 16:57 -0500
Re: the speed of light is wrong benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-09 18:54 -0400
Re: the speed of light is wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 09:54 +0200
Re: the speed of light is wrong Kitubu Nkyaku <akntuu@buwkau.kk> - 2017-06-10 11:00 +0000
Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:16 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 12:17 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-10 13:13 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-10 13:06 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-10 21:28 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 12:30 -0700
Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-25 14:26 -0700
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 10:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <594FF80D.6A94@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #637468 |
okay, i think i figured out how to measure the speed of light.... where is Jupiter's Moons???? which moon do i measure the speed of light with? Callisto??? 999999999 I'm getting close, am i?
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| From | Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 19:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <oiou01$elg$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #637662 |
The Starmaker wrote: > okay, i think i figured out how to measure the speed of light.... > > > where is Jupiter's Moons???? > > > which moon do i measure the speed of light with? Callisto??? > > > > 999999999 > > > I'm getting close, am i? > There is no point in measuring c, it is 299792458 m/s by definition. -- Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain to me what you really mean. I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 11:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <59500153.378D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #637664 |
Peter Percival wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > okay, i think i figured out how to measure the speed of light.... > > > > > > where is Jupiter's Moons???? > > > > > > which moon do i measure the speed of light with? Callisto??? > > > > > > > > 999999999 > > > > > > I'm getting close, am i? > > > There is no point in measuring c, it is 299792458 m/s by definition. > You really mean no none is allowed to test it to see if it is correct, is that right? It's...forbidden. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!
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| From | Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 19:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <oiovvp$ao1$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #637667 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Peter Percival wrote: >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> okay, i think i figured out how to measure the speed of light.... >>> >>> >>> where is Jupiter's Moons???? >>> >>> >>> which moon do i measure the speed of light with? Callisto??? >>> >>> >>> >>> 999999999 >>> >>> >>> I'm getting close, am i? >>> >> There is no point in measuring c, it is 299792458 m/s by definition. >> > > > You really mean no none is allowed to test it to see if it is correct, is that right? > > > > It's...forbidden. It's not forbidden, it's pointless. Here's an analogy: an inch is defined to be 2.54 cm. It would be silly to measure an inch to see if it really is that long. If it isn't, either you're not measuring carefully enough (so it's only a seeming "isn't") or the thing you're measuring isn't one inch long. OK? > > GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE! > -- Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain to me what you really mean. I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 15:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.33b9d5c39532ed7098adb9@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #637668 |
In article <oiovvp$ao1$1@news.albasani.net>, peterxpercival@hotmail.com says... > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Peter Percival wrote: > >> > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> okay, i think i figured out how to measure the speed of light.... > >>> > >>> > >>> where is Jupiter's Moons???? > >>> > >>> > >>> which moon do i measure the speed of light with? Callisto??? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 999999999 > >>> > >>> > >>> I'm getting close, am i? > >>> > >> There is no point in measuring c, it is 299792458 m/s by definition. > >> > > > > > > You really mean no none is allowed to test it to see if it is correct, is that right? > > > > > > > > It's...forbidden. > > It's not forbidden, it's pointless. Here's an analogy: an inch is > defined to be 2.54 cm. It would be silly to measure an inch to see if > it really is that long. If it isn't, either you're not measuring > carefully enough (so it's only a seeming "isn't") or the thing you're > measuring isn't one inch long. OK? It's fascinating to watch people with no clue concerning metrology argue about it. The definition of the inch establishes a relationship between one arbitrary system of units and another. The speed of light is determined within a single system of units so your analogy fails. In the case of the speed of light, the correct statement is not that the speed of light is x meters per second, the correct statement is that the meter is the distance light travels in 1/x second. If that distance can be determined more precisely and repeatably than previous definitions of the meter then it's a good thing, if not then it's craziness.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 07:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <oiq6rh$64i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #637664 |
Dne 25/06/2017 v 20:04 Peter Percival napsal(a): >> > There is no point in measuring c, it is 299792458 m/s by definition. > It depends. c is defined for a sort of standard conditions. But it can be still measured if light behaves in various conditions differently. By other words, if light at different conditions had propagated by different speed, the metre would not have been defined by both. It can be measured, using a distance defined by the standard light, if light passes the distance in different than expected time, or if at expected time it passed different distance. E.g. a specially taylored light beam with nonzero orbital angular momentum and twisted wavefront has the beam propagation speed slightly lower than c. It is because the wavefront does not propagate linearly, but on screwed trajectory of very tiny diameter. So while its phase speed is still c, its group and propagation speed is less than c. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) A wise man guards words he says, as they say about him more, than he says about the subject.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 07:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <oiq7fs$7vk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #637743 |
Dne 26/06/2017 v 07:45 Poutnik napsal(a): > Dne 25/06/2017 v 20:04 Peter Percival napsal(a): >>> >> There is no point in measuring c, it is 299792458 m/s by definition. >> > It depends. c is defined for a sort of standard conditions. > > But it can be still measured > if light behaves in various conditions differently. > > By other words, if light at different conditions had propagated > by different speed, the metre would not have been defined by both. > > It can be measured, > using a distance defined by the standard light, > if light passes the distance in different than expected time, > or if at expected time it passed different distance. > > E.g. a specially taylored light beam > with nonzero orbital angular momentum and twisted wavefront > has the beam propagation speed slightly lower than c. > > It is because the wavefront does not propagate linearly, > but on screwed trajectory of very tiny diameter. > So while its phase speed is still c, > its group and propagation speed is less than c. > P.S.: That all means there is really no point in measuring c, but it still makes sense to measure speed of light. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) A wise man guards words he says, as they say about him more, than he says about the subject.
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| From | Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> |
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| Date | 2017-06-27 12:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oiti8l$uo6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637744 |
Poutnik wrote: > P.S.: That all means there is really no point in measuring c, but it > still makes sense to measure speed of light. If you are so strong in physics, what is the most affordable way to construct a conductive ink which may dry using a hair dryer?
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| From | Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> |
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| Date | 2017-06-27 12:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oitiks$uo6$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637911 |
Jim Petroff wrote: > Poutnik wrote: > >> P.S.: That all means there is really no point in measuring c, but it >> still makes sense to measure speed of light. > > If you are so strong in physics, what is the most affordable way to > construct a conductive ink which may dry using a hair dryer? A few ohms lost in conductivity per cm, does no matter. Is proper ink or glue conductive, to begin with?? I have no idea.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-27 16:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ubda2e-6m8.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #637912 |
In sci.physics Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> wrote: > Jim Petroff wrote: > >> Poutnik wrote: >> >>> P.S.: That all means there is really no point in measuring c, but it >>> still makes sense to measure speed of light. >> >> If you are so strong in physics, what is the most affordable way to >> construct a conductive ink which may dry using a hair dryer? > > A few ohms lost in conductivity per cm, does no matter. Is proper ink or > glue conductive, to begin with?? I have no idea. Did it ever occur to you to do a Google search on conductive ink and read some of the 3,110,000 results? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> |
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| Date | 2017-06-27 20:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oiufjk$j8q$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637931 |
jimp wrote: >>> If you are so strong in physics, what is the most affordable way to >>> construct a conductive ink which may dry using a hair dryer? >> >> A few ohms lost in conductivity per cm, does no matter. Is proper ink >> or glue conductive, to begin with?? I have no idea. > > Did it ever occur to you to do a Google search on conductive ink and > read some of the 3,110,000 results? Are you so stupid not seeing that's exactly the problem? I want to make my own.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-27 21:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pjta2e-mba.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #637954 |
In sci.physics Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> wrote: > jimp wrote: > >>>> If you are so strong in physics, what is the most affordable way to >>>> construct a conductive ink which may dry using a hair dryer? >>> >>> A few ohms lost in conductivity per cm, does no matter. Is proper ink >>> or glue conductive, to begin with?? I have no idea. >> >> Did it ever occur to you to do a Google search on conductive ink and >> read some of the 3,110,000 results? > > Are you so stupid not seeing that's exactly the problem? I want to make my > own. Are you so stupid you can not see the many links about DIY conductive ink one gets when doing a Google search? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> |
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| Date | 2017-06-27 21:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oiuhjm$j8q$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637957 |
jimp wrote: >>>> A few ohms lost in conductivity per cm, does no matter. Is proper ink >>>> or glue conductive, to begin with?? I have no idea. >>> >>> Did it ever occur to you to do a Google search on conductive ink and >>> read some of the 3,110,000 results? >> >> Are you so stupid not seeing that's exactly the problem? I want to make >> my own. > > Are you so stupid you can not see the many links about DIY conductive > ink one gets when doing a Google search? You are a waste of time, unfortunately. But thanks for trying. If you have any experience with it, let me know.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-27 21:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1m0b2e-8la.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #637959 |
In sci.physics Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> wrote: > jimp wrote: > >>>>> A few ohms lost in conductivity per cm, does no matter. Is proper ink >>>>> or glue conductive, to begin with?? I have no idea. >>>> >>>> Did it ever occur to you to do a Google search on conductive ink and >>>> read some of the 3,110,000 results? >>> >>> Are you so stupid not seeing that's exactly the problem? I want to make >>> my own. >> >> Are you so stupid you can not see the many links about DIY conductive >> ink one gets when doing a Google search? > > You are a waste of time, unfortunately. But thanks for trying. If you have > any experience with it, let me know. 3,110,000 results from a Google search to include basic information, who sells such stuff and how to make your own and you expect someone to spend their time and write up something special just for you. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> |
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| Date | 2017-06-29 09:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oj2iqr$18dm$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637979 |
jimp wrote: > In sci.physics Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> wrote: >> jimp wrote: >> >>>>>> A few ohms lost in conductivity per cm, does no matter. Is proper >>>>>> ink or glue conductive, to begin with?? I have no idea. >>>>> >>>>> Did it ever occur to you to do a Google search on conductive ink and >>>>> read some of the 3,110,000 results? >>>> >>>> Are you so stupid not seeing that's exactly the problem? I want to >>>> make my own. >>> >>> Are you so stupid you can not see the many links about DIY conductive >>> ink one gets when doing a Google search? >> >> You are a waste of time, unfortunately. But thanks for trying. If you >> have any experience with it, let me know. > > 3,110,000 results from a Google search to include basic information, who > sells such stuff and how to make your own and you expect someone to > spend their time and write up something special just for you. Thank you, jimp. You are a wonderful human being. No shit. Love you.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-27 16:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <57da2e-6m8.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #637911 |
In sci.physics Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> wrote: > Poutnik wrote: > >> P.S.: That all means there is really no point in measuring c, but it >> still makes sense to measure speed of light. > > If you are so strong in physics, what is the most affordable way to > construct a conductive ink which may dry using a hair dryer? Your question is economics and engineering. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 05:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2fdd9ccf-f0b8-4f50-8174-b5cf808a604e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637664 |
On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 2:04:52 PM UTC-4, Peter Percival wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > okay, i think i figured out how to measure the speed of light....
In normal writing, i is always capitalized as I. Now you know. Grade? F-.
> > where is Jupiter's Moons????
The word is are, not is. Are you==Starmaker English Challenged?
Sure I make typos now and then, but hey, with a name like Mahipal...
> > which moon do i measure the speed of light with? Callisto???
How many moons do you==Starmaker have access to see by night light?
Why should one look for one's lost keys under the well lit lamp only?!
> > 999999999
Wait... what?! Devilish! Isn't that just 666,666,666 inversed/inverted?
What's even weirder is that 666 equals Ronald Wilson Reagan?! Times 3.
Coincidence Or Conspiracy K-word-hear (COCK)? Cock a doodle do...
> > I'm getting close, am i?
Close? That's a funny way to spell desperate Desperate DESPERATE.
Even TrumpET brags about his college he never attended classes at.
I adore the latest ETRADE ads: The Dumbest Guy In High School Buys A Yacht.
Just because you are, shouldn't mean you ought not have gone to college.
I'm beginning to calculate and understand why TrumpET loves Stupid People.
As OneStone is proclaimed to have noticed/plagiarized: Stupidit(y) Is Infinite.
Speaking of pitching unscalable TrumpET's solar walls... just one word... Ropes.
How about you Stupid People start reading about The Trojan Horse in Greek Mythology?
> There is no point in measuring c, it is 299792458 m/s by definition.
Speaking Canonicall(y), c=1. Ergo, E=M. Ring of Truth, Philip Morrison (MIT).
> --
> Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
> to me what you really mean.
> I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
> to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Found out? Cast out? Caste? Feh... words/numbers are useless in The Big Pictures.
-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
/\ "If the line between science fiction and
/ science fact doesn't drive you crazy,
/\ \ then you're just not tr(y)ing!"
\ /\/\ / \ \/ Mahipal Virdy
/ == \ / \/\/ The |meforce> Paradox
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 06:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <27f62238-b88a-44f5-878c-1c708deebf63@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637468 |
On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 2:12:30 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > If you ask Albert Einstein "What is the speed of light?" He'll probably say.. > take your fictional stories elsewhere.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-26 12:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <59515BBC.47A8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #637765 |
Edward Prochak wrote: > > On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 2:12:30 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > If you ask Albert Einstein "What is the speed of light?" He'll probably say.. > > > take your fictional stories elsewhere. Well, since Albert Einstein not once mention the value of the speed of light, what do you suppose his answer would be????
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-16 08:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4a335a1e-0ff8-420a-b202-beb8e9aad672@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #636516 |
On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 12:35:06 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: [] > > I'm willing to bet that nobody today is trying to find out what > is the speed of light. Because you'll discover that > your numbers will be different and that means you would have > to go against the mafia of the 'scientific community'... > > ..and the mafia of the 'scientific community' instills FEAR in others. The speed of light is tested daily by your GPS. If the value for the speed of light, c, was wrong, the GPS would show wrong results. > > > Truth is it's over 300,000,000 but somebody in the the mafia > of the 'scientific community' wrote down 299,792,458. So you are saying even light doesn't travel at the speed of light? You funny guy! LOL ed
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