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the speed of light is wrong

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First post2017-06-09 11:38 -0700
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  the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-09 11:38 -0700
    Re: the speed of light is wrong pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-09 13:36 -0700
      Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-09 13:50 -0700
        Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-10 10:55 -0700
          Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-10 11:18 -0700
            Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 12:18 -0700
              Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-10 13:15 -0700
            Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-12 09:40 -0700
              Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:26 -0700
                Re: the speed of light is wrong mosca.muha@gmail.com - 2017-06-13 07:29 -0700
              Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 15:20 -0700
                Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-13 17:03 -0700
                Re: the speed of light is wrong benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-13 20:56 -0400
                Re: the speed of light is wrong Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-06-18 14:07 -0700
                  Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 12:31 -0700
                    Re: the speed of light is wrong Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-06-27 15:39 -0700
              Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-15 09:34 -0700
                Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-16 01:36 -0700
                  Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-22 10:53 -0700
                    Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-23 11:12 -0700
                      Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-25 10:51 -0700
                        Re: the speed of light is wrong Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-25 19:04 +0100
                          Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-25 11:30 -0700
                            Re: the speed of light is wrong Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-25 19:38 +0100
                              Re: the speed of light is wrong "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 15:15 -0400
                          Re: the speed of light is wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:45 +0200
                            Re: the speed of light is wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:56 +0200
                              Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-27 12:15 +0000
                                Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-27 12:21 +0000
                                  Re: the speed of light is wrong jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-27 16:22 +0000
                                    Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-27 20:36 +0000
                                      Re: the speed of light is wrong jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-27 21:00 +0000
                                        Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-27 21:10 +0000
                                          Re: the speed of light is wrong jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-27 21:52 +0000
                                            Re: the speed of light is wrong Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-29 09:55 +0000
                                Re: the speed of light is wrong jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-06-27 16:20 +0000
                          Re: the speed of light is wrong Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 05:22 -0700
                      Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:15 -0700
                        Re: the speed of light is wrong The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-26 12:08 -0700
                Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:42 -0700
        Re: the speed of light is wrong "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-11 20:51 +1000
          Re: the speed of light is wrong Cujo DeSockpuppet <cujo@petitmorte.net> - 2017-06-12 19:54 +0000
          Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:20 -0700
        Re: the speed of light is wrong pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-12 12:31 -0700
      Re: the speed of light is wrong Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-09 16:57 -0500
        Re: the speed of light is wrong benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-09 18:54 -0400
      Re: the speed of light is wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 09:54 +0200
        Re: the speed of light is wrong Kitubu Nkyaku <akntuu@buwkau.kk> - 2017-06-10 11:00 +0000
          Re: the speed of light is wrong Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 13:16 -0700
    Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 12:17 -0700
      Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-10 13:13 -0700
    Re: the speed of light is wrong Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-10 13:06 -0700
    Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-10 21:28 -0700
    Re: the speed of light is wrong "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 12:30 -0700
      Re: the speed of light is wrong "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-25 14:26 -0700

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#635920 — the speed of light is wrong

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-06-09 11:38 -0700
Subjectthe speed of light is wrong
Message-ID<593AEB3E.5E36@ix.netcom.com>
i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
'measuring tools'.. to measure it.


just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.

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#635934

Frompcardinale@volcanomail.com
Date2017-06-09 13:36 -0700
Message-ID<8037e211-8b68-4afe-a08c-4314a859f97c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#635920
On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> 
> 
> just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.

The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.

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#635937

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-06-09 13:50 -0700
Message-ID<593B09F9.249A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#635934
pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> >
> >
> > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> 
> The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.


Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."


Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.


meter peter


'meter' nonsence.



In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like

'the universe comes from nothing'

'exactly 299,792,458'


you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...


In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.




untill 'they' say otherwise.

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#636010

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-06-10 10:55 -0700
Message-ID<593C3297.6BB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#635937
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > >
> > >
> > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> >
> > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> 
> Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> 
> Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> 
> meter peter
> 
> 'meter' nonsence.
> 
> In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> 
> 'the universe comes from nothing'
> 
> 'exactly 299,792,458'
> 
> you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> 
> In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> 
> untill 'they' say otherwise.



The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.


And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.


The slow speed of light.

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#636014

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-06-10 11:18 -0700
Message-ID<593C37F5.F37@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#636010
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > >
> > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> >
> > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> >
> > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> >
> > meter peter
> >
> > 'meter' nonsence.
> >
> > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> >
> > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> >
> > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> >
> > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> >
> > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> >
> > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> 
> The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> 
> And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> 
> The slow speed of light.

The question is, How slow can light travel? 


Slower than slow...real slow.

I mean...slow. 

not      so        fast


not so q  uick

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#636022

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-10 12:18 -0700
Message-ID<7026db67-ce18-4859-baf3-cb1095c5f93b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#636014
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 11:18:31 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > > >
> > > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > >
> > > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> > >
> > > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > >
> > > meter peter
> > >
> > > 'meter' nonsence.
> > >
> > > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> > >
> > > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> > >
> > > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> > >
> > > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> > >
> > > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> > >
> > > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> > 
> > The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> > 
> > And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> > 
> > The slow speed of light.
> 
> The question is, How slow can light travel? 
> 
> 
> Slower than slow...real slow.
> 
> I mean...slow. 
> 
> not      so        fast
> 
> 
> not so q  uick

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#636025

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-06-10 13:15 -0700
Message-ID<ohhjr2$1bv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#636022
<http://tinyurl.com/Loudmouth-Glazier-8Feb2017>,
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
"I posted this reality for over 25 years.Still it goes for not"
explaining why SwineBert is a stinky, habitual Face-Shitter
& a criminal Graveyard vandal who has put a permanentr 
__Stain of Shame__ onto his Jewish Glazier Family Name....

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#636144

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-06-12 09:40 -0700
Message-ID<593EC3EE.589A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#636014
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > > >
> > > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > >
> > > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> > >
> > > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > >
> > > meter peter
> > >
> > > 'meter' nonsence.
> > >
> > > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> > >
> > > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> > >
> > > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> > >
> > > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> > >
> > > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> > >
> > > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> >
> > The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> >
> > And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> >
> > The slow speed of light.
> 
> The question is, How slow can light travel?
> 
> Slower than slow...real slow.
> 
> I mean...slow.
> 
> not      so        fast
> 
> not so q  uick


i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
it's speed when it is passing through something.

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#636171

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-12 13:26 -0700
Message-ID<66d05ccf-0d55-49eb-9156-851789f11fd3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#636144
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 12:40:22 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
[]
> 
> i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
> it's speed when it is passing through something.

But that has nothing to do with the constant c.
People keep leaving off the full name:
the speed of light in a vacuum.
------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So it is irrelevant if light travels slower through a medium.
And pertaining to Relativity,
 nothing has yet been shown to travel faster than light.

ed

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#636246

Frommosca.muha@gmail.com
Date2017-06-13 07:29 -0700
Message-ID<83f651d7-2e04-4f17-8301-a968cb9cfcda@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#636171
Il giorno lunedì 12 giugno 2017 22:26:03 UTC+2, Edward Prochak ha scritto:
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 12:40:22 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> []
> > 
> > i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
> > it's speed when it is passing through something.
> 
> But that has nothing to do with the constant c.
> People keep leaving off the full name:
> the speed of light in a vacuum.
> ------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> So it is irrelevant if light travels slower through a medium.
> And pertaining to Relativity,
>  nothing has yet been shown to travel faster than light.
> 
> ed

The sound travels always at his propagation velocity: determined by density and pressure. As light, the same formula of sound. Maxwell computed it theoretically in analogy with sound(chap. XX of the Treatise).

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#636286

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-13 15:20 -0700
Message-ID<8ace5ffa-e6ce-4a56-8338-ca050d190ec7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#636144
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 9:40:22 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > > > >
> > > > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > >
> > > > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> > > >
> > > > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > >
> > > > meter peter
> > > >
> > > > 'meter' nonsence.
> > > >
> > > > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> > > >
> > > > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> > > >
> > > > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> > > >
> > > > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> > > >
> > > > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> > > >
> > > > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> > >
> > > The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> > >
> > > And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> > >
> > > The slow speed of light.
> > 
> > The question is, How slow can light travel?
> > 
> > Slower than slow...real slow.
> > 
> > I mean...slow.
> > 
> > not      so        fast
> > 
> > not so q  uick
> 
> 
> i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
> it's speed when it is passing through something.

Bad guess.Just think it photons went slower it begs the question."what brings them back to the speed when going through the vacuum of space.I've posted this and never got an answer.I know why  Trebert

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#636296

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-06-13 17:03 -0700
Message-ID<ohpuih$v9u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#636286
<http://tinyurl.com/Loudmouth-Glazier-8Feb2017>,
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote
I've posted this and never got an answer.But I, Trebert
know why SwineBert  is a Face-Shitter and a criminal
Graveyard Vandal
>
>
So SwineBert don't talk out of both sides of your
mouth but EXPLAIN why you are such a pig.

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#636306

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-06-13 20:56 -0400
Message-ID<594089ab$0$22692$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#636286
On 6/13/2017 6:20 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 9:40:22 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
>>>>>>> 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
>>>>>
>>>>> Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
>>>>>
>>>>> Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
>>>>>
>>>>> meter peter
>>>>>
>>>>> 'meter' nonsence.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
>>>>>
>>>>> 'the universe comes from nothing'
>>>>>
>>>>> 'exactly 299,792,458'
>>>>>
>>>>> you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
>>>>>
>>>>> untill 'they' say otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
>>>>
>>>> And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
>>>>
>>>> The slow speed of light.
>>>
>>> The question is, How slow can light travel?
>>>
>>> Slower than slow...real slow.
>>>
>>> I mean...slow.
>>>
>>> not      so        fast
>>>
>>> not so q  uick
>>
>>
>> i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
>> it's speed when it is passing through something.
> 
> Bad guess.Just think it photons went slower it begs the question."what brings them back to the speed when going through the vacuum of space.I've posted this and never got an answer.I know why  Trebert
> 
It's so simple, Bert! It's because all space is moving at the speed of 
light! Just ask HVAC if I'm not right! He knows all about science.

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#636873

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2017-06-18 14:07 -0700
Message-ID<135e64f0-ca83-4d06-a4fd-d505d04ae663@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#636286
On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 3:21:08 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 9:40:22 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > 
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > >
> > > > > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> > > > >
> > > > > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > >
> > > > > meter peter
> > > > >
> > > > > 'meter' nonsence.
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> > > > >
> > > > > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> > > > >
> > > > > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> > > > >
> > > > > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> > > > >
> > > > > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> > > >
> > > > The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> > > >
> > > > And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> > > >
> > > > The slow speed of light.
> > > 
> > > The question is, How slow can light travel?
> > > 
> > > Slower than slow...real slow.
> > > 
> > > I mean...slow.
> > > 
> > > not      so        fast
> > > 
> > > not so q  uick
> > 
> > 
> > i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
> > it's speed when it is passing through something.
> 
> Bad guess.Just think it photons went slower it begs the question."what brings them back to the speed when going through the vacuum of space.I've posted this and never got an answer.I know why  Trebert


Up to speed?  At c the universe shrinks so completely in their direction of travel that they are always essentially at rest!

Double-A

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#637676

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-25 12:31 -0700
Message-ID<269e5c41-d68e-47e2-8a26-cf0124a9627c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#636873
On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 2:07:06 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 3:21:08 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 9:40:22 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > > > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > meter peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'meter' nonsence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > > The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> > > > >
> > > > > And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> > > > >
> > > > > The slow speed of light.
> > > > 
> > > > The question is, How slow can light travel?
> > > > 
> > > > Slower than slow...real slow.
> > > > 
> > > > I mean...slow.
> > > > 
> > > > not      so        fast
> > > > 
> > > > not so q  uick
> > > 
> > > 
> > > i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
> > > it's speed when it is passing through something.
> > 
> > Bad guess.Just think it photons went slower it begs the question."what brings them back to the speed when going through the vacuum of space.I've posted this and never got an answer.I know why  Trebert
> 
> 
> Up to speed?  At c the universe shrinks so completely in their direction of travel that they are always essentially at rest!
> 
> Double-A

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#637981

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2017-06-27 15:39 -0700
Message-ID<ccf505a1-a3dd-47fe-9225-d5e864410996@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#637676
On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 12:32:01 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 2:07:06 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 3:21:08 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 9:40:22 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > > > > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > meter peter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'meter' nonsence.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The slow speed of light.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The question is, How slow can light travel?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Slower than slow...real slow.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I mean...slow.
> > > > > 
> > > > > not      so        fast
> > > > > 
> > > > > not so q  uick
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
> > > > it's speed when it is passing through something.
> > > 
> > > Bad guess.Just think it photons went slower it begs the question."what brings them back to the speed when going through the vacuum of space.I've posted this and never got an answer.I know why  Trebert
> > 
> > 
> > Up to speed?  At c the universe shrinks so completely in their direction of travel that they are always essentially at rest!
> > 
> > Double-A


Is my statement so profound that it has you speechless, Bert?

Double-A

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#636516

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-06-15 09:34 -0700
Message-ID<5942B72C.1B5F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#636144
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > > > >
> > > > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > >
> > > > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> > > >
> > > > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > >
> > > > meter peter
> > > >
> > > > 'meter' nonsence.
> > > >
> > > > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> > > >
> > > > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> > > >
> > > > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> > > >
> > > > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> > > >
> > > > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> > > >
> > > > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> > >
> > > The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> > >
> > > And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> > >
> > > The slow speed of light.
> >
> > The question is, How slow can light travel?
> >
> > Slower than slow...real slow.
> >
> > I mean...slow.
> >
> > not      so        fast
> >
> > not so q  uick
> 
> i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
> it's speed when it is passing through something.



I'm willing to bet that nobody today is trying to find out what is the speed of light. Because you'll discover that
your numbers will be different and that means you would have to go against the mafia of the 'scientific community'...

..and the mafia of the 'scientific community' instills FEAR in others. 


Truth is it's over 300,000,000 but somebody in the the mafia of the 'scientific community' wrote down 299,792,458. 

What is the name of the person that came up with the number 299,792,458???? There's your Mafia guy.

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#636620

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-06-16 01:36 -0700
Message-ID<59439899.1A6B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#636516
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > >
> > > > > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> > > > >
> > > > > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > >
> > > > > meter peter
> > > > >
> > > > > 'meter' nonsence.
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> > > > >
> > > > > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> > > > >
> > > > > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> > > > >
> > > > > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> > > > >
> > > > > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> > > >
> > > > The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> > > >
> > > > And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> > > >
> > > > The slow speed of light.
> > >
> > > The question is, How slow can light travel?
> > >
> > > Slower than slow...real slow.
> > >
> > > I mean...slow.
> > >
> > > not      so        fast
> > >
> > > not so q  uick
> >
> > i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
> > it's speed when it is passing through something.
> 
> I'm willing to bet that nobody today is trying to find out what is the speed of light. Because you'll discover that
> your numbers will be different and that means you would have to go against the mafia of the 'scientific community'...
> 
> ..and the mafia of the 'scientific community' instills FEAR in others.
> 
> Truth is it's over 300,000,000 but somebody in the the mafia of the 'scientific community' wrote down 299,792,458.
> 
> What is the name of the person that came up with the number 299,792,458???? There's your Mafia guy.




Now, I'm going to prove to everyone that the speed of light is a FAKE number.

You don't have to look it up to see it's a fake number
You don't have to be a math whiz
You don't need to a rocket scientist

Your own common sense with verify it.

Here is the value given: the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s

https://www.google.com/#q=the+speed+of+light


Now here is the proof it's a FAKE number....


Look at the number:  299 792 458


the first three digits is proof it's a fake number:


299 



it ends like a 99.9  percent ( how these guys think when they are unsure)


299...just short of 300


keeping it under the true value of over 300,000,000.


If you want to fix the number not to go past 300...
you just write 299.



299 792 458 was created as a fixed number to prevent it from going past 300,000,000 or 400,000,000 or 500,000,000


299 792 458 m / s is a FAKE number


Now, why didn't they just changed it to 299 792 459  or 299 799 459  or 299 799 499 or 299 999 959 ??? To obvious. There would be too many number 9's.


It wouldn't look...natural.



Conclusion: YOU FUCKIN CANNOT TRUST THESE MOTHERFUCKERS WITH ANYTHING.

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#637332

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-06-22 10:53 -0700
Message-ID<594C0412.442E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#636620
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:39:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > i certaintly wouldn't use any of your..
> > > > > > > > 'measuring tools'.. to measure it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > just as i wouldn't measure Time using some ...clock a nut invented.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The speed of light isn't measured anymore.  It's now a defined constant.  The value is exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Translation: "a defined constant" means, somebody said "That's it, don't question it, it's set in stone..it's our law, don't fuckin break it."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Translation: it's not exactly 299,792,458 meters per second, it's fucking exactly 299,792,458 meters per second.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > meter peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'meter' nonsence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In other words, those old guys in the scientific community decide to put up a 'wall' with a fixed idea, like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'the universe comes from nothing'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'exactly 299,792,458'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you're not suppose to go pass the wall they put up...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In other words, you think what 'they' want you to think.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > untill 'they' say otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > > The fact is...no one has ever seen light travel at the speed of light, or even touch it.
> > > > >
> > > > > And light travels sometimes...slow..depending what is slowing it down.
> > > > >
> > > > > The slow speed of light.
> > > >
> > > > The question is, How slow can light travel?
> > > >
> > > > Slower than slow...real slow.
> > > >
> > > > I mean...slow.
> > > >
> > > > not      so        fast
> > > >
> > > > not so q  uick
> > >
> > > i would have to guess the speed of light slows down to more than half
> > > it's speed when it is passing through something.
> >
> > I'm willing to bet that nobody today is trying to find out what is the speed of light. Because you'll discover that
> > your numbers will be different and that means you would have to go against the mafia of the 'scientific community'...
> >
> > ..and the mafia of the 'scientific community' instills FEAR in others.
> >
> > Truth is it's over 300,000,000 but somebody in the the mafia of the 'scientific community' wrote down 299,792,458.
> >
> > What is the name of the person that came up with the number 299,792,458???? There's your Mafia guy.
> 
> Now, I'm going to prove to everyone that the speed of light is a FAKE number.
> 
> You don't have to look it up to see it's a fake number
> You don't have to be a math whiz
> You don't need to a rocket scientist
> 
> Your own common sense with verify it.
> 
> Here is the value given: the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s
> 
> https://www.google.com/#q=the+speed+of+light
> 
> Now here is the proof it's a FAKE number....
> 
> Look at the number:  299 792 458
> 
> the first three digits is proof it's a fake number:
> 
> 299
> 
> it ends like a 99.9  percent ( how these guys think when they are unsure)
> 
> 299...just short of 300
> 
> keeping it under the true value of over 300,000,000.
> 
> If you want to fix the number not to go past 300...
> you just write 299.
> 
> 299 792 458 was created as a fixed number to prevent it from going past 300,000,000 or 400,000,000 or 500,000,000
> 
> 299 792 458 m / s is a FAKE number
> 
> Now, why didn't they just changed it to 299 792 459  or 299 799 459  or 299 799 499 or 299 999 959 ??? To obvious. There would be too many number 9's.
> 
> It wouldn't look...natural.

So, I suspect...whoever came up with a fixed set speed of light of "299 792 458" probably wrote: 299 792 459..

and then his friends looked at that fixed number and told him..


"Did you know that all the numbers total to "9"s???"

"People are going to get suspicous and ask "Why are all the numbers total nine????"

"You're going to have to change that number so it does'n all total to "9"s!!!"


So he said, "Okay, I'll change the last number to 8."



Google, what is the speed of light?

https://www.google.com/#q=what+is+speed+of+light?



Okay, truth is...nobody knows what the speed of light is. Not even Albert Einstein *ever* knew what the speed of light is or was.

Albert Einstein never mentioned anywhere what the speed of light is. He simply didn't know...


which is evident in his ...formular E=Mc^2.


Since Albert Einstein didn't know the speed of light, he didn't know how big the atomic bomb would be. He miscalculated.



He wrote: "A single bomb of this

type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory."

http://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first



Albert Einstein could have blown up the whole planet because he miscalculated the speed of light. 


"might very well destroy

the whole port"



How big is a port?




"Stand back, no telling how big this thing is going to get!"

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#637468

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-06-23 11:12 -0700
Message-ID<594D5A04.325E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#637332
If you ask Albert Einstein "What is the speed of light?" He'll probably say..


"How the hell do I know. I don't know how the can opener works."


Then he'll tell me, "Why do you bother me with these stupid question? Can you not see I'm fuckin busy
designing a new bomb????"


And I look over his shoulder and ask him .."What kind of bomb is that?"


He says, "Oh, it's fuckin beautiful! This fuckin bomb will blow up a whole fuckin ship, kill all the motherfuckers on it!"

I ask, "How does it work?"


He says, "Oh, it's fuckin beautiful! This fuckin bomb will blow up a whole fuckin ship, kill all the motherfuckers on it!"


I say, "You said that already." "Where are your friends, how come they are not helping you with this new bomb?"


He says, "Oh, those fuckin motherfuckers are too afraid to be seen around me..FBI is bothering them, I mention bomb
and they all run the other way!"


I say to him, "Don't you want to do something else? Maybe find a cure for cancer??"


He says, "Are you fuckin kidding me? I LOVE THIS STUFF! I love building bombs and watching all these stupid motherfuckers die. They
call me Mr. BadASSSSSSSS."

"What?"

BadASSSSSSSS.


"What?"


Mr. BadASSSSSSSS!!!


http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/bomb1.jpg
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/bomb2.jpg
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/bomb3.jpg

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