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NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2017-03-29 09:43 -0800
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  NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-29 09:43 -0800
    Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-29 12:09 -0800
    Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-30 09:27 +1100
      Re: Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-29 15:59 -0800
        Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-30 10:01 +1100
          Re: Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-29 20:27 -0800
            Re: Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-29 22:29 -0800
              Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-30 08:38 -0800
                Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2017-03-30 13:11 -0400
                  Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-30 11:15 -0800
                    Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2017-03-30 15:09 -0400
                      Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-30 12:52 -0800
                        Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2017-03-31 09:11 -0400
                          Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-31 10:07 -0800
                            Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2017-03-31 16:56 -0400
                              Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-31 14:36 -0800
                                Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-02 23:51 -0700
                          Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-31 15:00 -0700
                            Re: NASA tells artist... Don't ever use the color green "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-31 15:19 -0700
          Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-03-29 21:26 -0600
            Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-03-30 06:44 +0200
          Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 08:34 -0700
      Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-03-29 21:07 -0600
      Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green Awa Idayumi <auu@wayyaw.yi> - 2017-03-30 22:11 +0000
    Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-30 16:22 -0800
      Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-30 16:33 -0800
        Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-31 13:32 -0800
          Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-31 14:07 -0800
            Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-01 20:47 -0800
              Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-02 23:57 -0700

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#625901 — Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2017-03-30 06:44 +0200
SubjectRe: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green
Message-ID<1776133.oMNUckLgyt@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#625892
Joe Pfeiffer amok-crossposted across 4 newsgroups without Followup-To:

> Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> writes:
>> On 30/03/2017 10:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> Green may hint at chlorophyll, but the evolution of plants to use the
>>>> red (low energy) end of the spectrum, and reflect the green, seems to
>>>> have been because their ancestors lived in the sea below other
>>>> photosynthetic life (now extinct) that absorbed the green (high energy)
>>>> end of the spectrum.
>>>>
>>>> So there's nothing about "green" that really says "life" any more than
>>>> red does, or even black.
>>>
>>> Red, too hot
>>>
>>> Blue, too cold
>>>
>>> Green...just right.
>>
>> Those have nothing to do with the relationship between photon energy
>> and colour.
> 
> Wow.  Someone who can make starmaker's posts look rational.
> 
> Of *course* they have nothing to do with photon energy.  This is about
> evoking desired perceptions.

I am not entirely sure what you clueless troll-feeding amok-crossposters are 
talking about, but as you have crossposted to sci.physics.ALL too, JFTR & 
JFYI:

The energy of a single photon is E = ℎ f.  It depends only on the frequency 
f of the electromagnetic radiation it belongs to (ℎ is Planck’s *constant*).  
Frequency/wavelength (where wavelength λ = c∕f) do have something to do with 
color: Color and visible light itself are human concept based on the energy 
of the photons required to activate specialized cone photoreceptor cells in 
the human retina.

See also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_vision>

They do not necessarily have something to do with temperature, contrary to 
common misconception and what the “Starmaker” troll suggested.

BTW, black is not really a color, it is basically the absence of light
with energies/frequencies/wavelengths corresponding to the visible light 
part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

F'up2 sci.physics

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#626820 — Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-04 08:34 -0700
SubjectRe: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green
Message-ID<9b754a4b-614b-49ed-bedb-b13343176272@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#625865
vision is the canonical octave, although
the colors around purple\magenta are percieved
quite differently; see
"the apparent trichromacy of vision," and
there certainly are not three pigments;
just rhodopsin for nightvision/warmth

> Those have nothing to do with the relationship between photon energy and 
> colour.
> 
> Sylvia.

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#625888

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2017-03-29 21:07 -0600
Message-ID<ek3b36Fjsq6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#625860
Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

>On 30/03/2017 4:43 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Don’t make the ocean too azure blue, lest it seem too much like Earth. Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
>> “We try to avoid anything that might imply there is life,” Mr. Pyle says.
>>
>>
>
>Green may hint at chlorophyll, but the evolution of plants to use the 
>red (low energy) end of the spectrum, and reflect the green, seems to 
>have been because their ancestors lived in the sea below other 
>photosynthetic life (now extinct) that absorbed the green (high energy) 
>end of the spectrum.
>
>So there's nothing about "green" that really says "life" any more than 
>red does, or even black.

Green isn't the END of the spectrum.  Those weird coloured grow lights
have both ends of the spectrum.
I found this graph
https://www.supergrowled.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/PAR-Spectrum-Graph---Chili.jpg
under the text "Even within this spectrum, not all light is equal for
chilies, which utilize light with wavelengths primarily in the red and
blue regions for growth, photosynthesis and flowering. Green light is
of little use to chilies and other plants, and is mostly reflected,
resulting in the green leaves and stems we see in our gardens."
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#626016 — Re: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green

FromAwa Idayumi <auu@wayyaw.yi>
Date2017-03-30 22:11 +0000
SubjectRe: NASA tells artist... Don’t ever use the color green
Message-ID<objvqg$1v1j$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#625860
Sylvia Else wrote:

> Green may hint at chlorophyll, but the evolution of plants to use the
> red (low energy) end of the spectrum, and reflect the green, seems to
> have been because their ancestors lived in the sea below other
> photosynthetic life (now extinct) that absorbed the green (high energy)
> end of the spectrum.So there's nothing about "green" that really says
> "life" any more than red does, or even black. Sylvia.

They are probably again starting using green screens. Overlapping two 
green screens cannot be indicated.

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#626026

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-03-30 16:22 -0800
Message-ID<58DDA148.221D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#625807
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Don’t make the ocean too azure blue, lest it seem too much like Earth. Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> “We try to avoid anything that might imply there is life,” Mr. Pyle says.
> 
>  So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide.
> 
> “We are one step closer to the science fiction we all grew up on,” says Mr. Delgado.
> 
> That's strange...I didn't grow up on "science fiction". Did yous guys grow up on science fiction????
> 
> It's best to keep your children away from reading science fiction, give them pot instead.
> 
> Then, when they grow up instead of searching for water they will be searching for grass.
> 
> I always wondered Why NASA's illustrations didn't have trees...
> 
> God forbid that they "imply there is life"...
> 
> "So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide."
> 
> Oh, it has oceans, that means there is no life.
> 
> So, NASA has a Rule:
> Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.


So, does that mean there are no planets other than earth with the color Green on it's surface????

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#626029

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-03-30 16:33 -0800
Message-ID<58DDA3C4.2E6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#626026
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Don’t make the ocean too azure blue, lest it seem too much like Earth. Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> > “We try to avoid anything that might imply there is life,” Mr. Pyle says.
> >
> >  So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide.
> >
> > “We are one step closer to the science fiction we all grew up on,” says Mr. Delgado.
> >
> > That's strange...I didn't grow up on "science fiction". Did yous guys grow up on science fiction????
> >
> > It's best to keep your children away from reading science fiction, give them pot instead.
> >
> > Then, when they grow up instead of searching for water they will be searching for grass.
> >
> > I always wondered Why NASA's illustrations didn't have trees...
> >
> > God forbid that they "imply there is life"...
> >
> > "So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide."
> >
> > Oh, it has oceans, that means there is no life.
> >
> > So, NASA has a Rule:
> > Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> 
> So, does that mean there are no planets other than earth with the color Green on it's surface????


Okay...so there are no planets other than Earth with a Blue surface..and there are no other Green planets,

then what Colors are left, Red????


So, let me get this straight...yous're saying that there is only Black, White and Red surface planets out there?? That's it.

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#626120

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-03-31 13:32 -0800
Message-ID<58DECAE3.2D57@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#626029
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Don’t make the ocean too azure blue, lest it seem too much like Earth. Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> > > “We try to avoid anything that might imply there is life,” Mr. Pyle says.
> > >
> > >  So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide.
> > >
> > > “We are one step closer to the science fiction we all grew up on,” says Mr. Delgado.
> > >
> > > That's strange...I didn't grow up on "science fiction". Did yous guys grow up on science fiction????
> > >
> > > It's best to keep your children away from reading science fiction, give them pot instead.
> > >
> > > Then, when they grow up instead of searching for water they will be searching for grass.
> > >
> > > I always wondered Why NASA's illustrations didn't have trees...
> > >
> > > God forbid that they "imply there is life"...
> > >
> > > "So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide."
> > >
> > > Oh, it has oceans, that means there is no life.
> > >
> > > So, NASA has a Rule:
> > > Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> >
> > So, does that mean there are no planets other than earth with the color Green on it's surface????
> 
> Okay...so there are no planets other than Earth with a Blue surface..and there are no other Green planets,
> 
> then what Colors are left, Red????
> 
> So, let me get this straight...yous're saying that there is only Black, White and Red surface planets out there?? That's it.


If you understand ...Colors, then you will discover that all planets surface other than Earth are either the Color Red, or the color black and white.

For example, that would mean the planet Pluto surface color is Red. That's a fact.


ALL planets surface colors other than Earth Red, B&W.


Only Earth has a Blue surface in the universe.


Mars is Red. Why? because it ain't blue or green.


You don't need No physics books or math books, you just need to know what the Primary Colors are...fuck the spectrum. I'm not interested in Purple.

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#626122

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-03-31 14:07 -0800
Message-ID<58DED339.5B1E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#626120
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don’t make the ocean too azure blue, lest it seem too much like Earth. Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> > > > “We try to avoid anything that might imply there is life,” Mr. Pyle says.
> > > >
> > > >  So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide.
> > > >
> > > > “We are one step closer to the science fiction we all grew up on,” says Mr. Delgado.
> > > >
> > > > That's strange...I didn't grow up on "science fiction". Did yous guys grow up on science fiction????
> > > >
> > > > It's best to keep your children away from reading science fiction, give them pot instead.
> > > >
> > > > Then, when they grow up instead of searching for water they will be searching for grass.
> > > >
> > > > I always wondered Why NASA's illustrations didn't have trees...
> > > >
> > > > God forbid that they "imply there is life"...
> > > >
> > > > "So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide."
> > > >
> > > > Oh, it has oceans, that means there is no life.
> > > >
> > > > So, NASA has a Rule:
> > > > Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> > >
> > > So, does that mean there are no planets other than earth with the color Green on it's surface????
> >
> > Okay...so there are no planets other than Earth with a Blue surface..and there are no other Green planets,
> >
> > then what Colors are left, Red????
> >
> > So, let me get this straight...yous're saying that there is only Black, White and Red surface planets out there?? That's it.
> 
> If you understand ...Colors, then you will discover that all planets surface other than Earth are either the Color Red, or the color black and white.
> 
> For example, that would mean the planet Pluto surface color is Red. That's a fact.
> 
> ALL planets surface colors other than Earth Red, B&W.
> 
> Only Earth has a Blue surface in the universe.
> 
> Mars is Red. Why? because it ain't blue or green.
> 
> You don't need No physics books or math books, you just need to know what the Primary Colors are...fuck the spectrum. I'm not interested in Purple.


And if you're are those who believe Black or White is not a color...then every single planet surface color in the universe (other than earth) is just one color...Red.


That's a fact, Jack!

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#626342

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-04-01 20:47 -0800
Message-ID<58E08260.55EE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#626122
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Don’t make the ocean too azure blue, lest it seem too much like Earth. Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> > > > > “We try to avoid anything that might imply there is life,” Mr. Pyle says.
> > > > >
> > > > >  So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide.
> > > > >
> > > > > “We are one step closer to the science fiction we all grew up on,” says Mr. Delgado.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's strange...I didn't grow up on "science fiction". Did yous guys grow up on science fiction????
> > > > >
> > > > > It's best to keep your children away from reading science fiction, give them pot instead.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then, when they grow up instead of searching for water they will be searching for grass.
> > > > >
> > > > > I always wondered Why NASA's illustrations didn't have trees...
> > > > >
> > > > > God forbid that they "imply there is life"...
> > > > >
> > > > > "So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide."
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, it has oceans, that means there is no life.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, NASA has a Rule:
> > > > > Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> > > >
> > > > So, does that mean there are no planets other than earth with the color Green on it's surface????
> > >
> > > Okay...so there are no planets other than Earth with a Blue surface..and there are no other Green planets,
> > >
> > > then what Colors are left, Red????
> > >
> > > So, let me get this straight...yous're saying that there is only Black, White and Red surface planets out there?? That's it.
> >
> > If you understand ...Colors, then you will discover that all planets surface other than Earth are either the Color Red, or the color black and white.
> >
> > For example, that would mean the planet Pluto surface color is Red. That's a fact.
> >
> > ALL planets surface colors other than Earth Red, B&W.
> >
> > Only Earth has a Blue surface in the universe.
> >
> > Mars is Red. Why? because it ain't blue or green.
> >
> > You don't need No physics books or math books, you just need to know what the Primary Colors are...fuck the spectrum. I'm not interested in Purple.
> 
> And if you're are those who believe Black or White is not a color...then every single planet surface color in the universe (other than earth) is just one color...Red.
> 
> That's a fact, Jack!


If you understand ...Colors


If you have Red, Green and Blue....

then all you have left is...Red.


So, why do they call Mars...the red planet????

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#626424

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-04-02 23:57 -0700
Message-ID<58E1F255.2920@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#626342
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don’t make the ocean too azure blue, lest it seem too much like Earth. Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> > > > > > “We try to avoid anything that might imply there is life,” Mr. Pyle says.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > “We are one step closer to the science fiction we all grew up on,” says Mr. Delgado.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's strange...I didn't grow up on "science fiction". Did yous guys grow up on science fiction????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's best to keep your children away from reading science fiction, give them pot instead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then, when they grow up instead of searching for water they will be searching for grass.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I always wondered Why NASA's illustrations didn't have trees...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > God forbid that they "imply there is life"...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "So the artists added oceans to their illustrations, which are posted on NASA websites and republished in newspapers and magazines world-wide."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, it has oceans, that means there is no life.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, NASA has a Rule:
> > > > > > Don’t ever use the color green, which hints at vegetation.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, does that mean there are no planets other than earth with the color Green on it's surface????
> > > >
> > > > Okay...so there are no planets other than Earth with a Blue surface..and there are no other Green planets,
> > > >
> > > > then what Colors are left, Red????
> > > >
> > > > So, let me get this straight...yous're saying that there is only Black, White and Red surface planets out there?? That's it.
> > >
> > > If you understand ...Colors, then you will discover that all planets surface other than Earth are either the Color Red, or the color black and white.
> > >
> > > For example, that would mean the planet Pluto surface color is Red. That's a fact.
> > >
> > > ALL planets surface colors other than Earth Red, B&W.
> > >
> > > Only Earth has a Blue surface in the universe.
> > >
> > > Mars is Red. Why? because it ain't blue or green.
> > >
> > > You don't need No physics books or math books, you just need to know what the Primary Colors are...fuck the spectrum. I'm not interested in Purple.
> >
> > And if you're are those who believe Black or White is not a color...then every single planet surface color in the universe (other than earth) is just one color...Red.
> >
> > That's a fact, Jack!
> 
> If you understand ...Colors
> 
> If you have Red, Green and Blue....
> 
> then all you have left is...Red.
> 
> So, why do they call Mars...the red planet????


In other words...all the planets 'out there' are only one color...Red!


That makes the earth, the center of the universe. 


In other words...if you have billions and billion of planets that are
all red and only one blue, the blue one is at the center of gravity.

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