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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-10-05 13:25 -0500 |
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1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 19:50 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 20:43 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:16 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:22 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 22:47 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-10-01 13:48 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 15:27 +0100
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:53 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 21:53 +0100
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:06 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 13:31 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-01 15:03 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-02 14:54 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-02 00:18 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 09:31 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:57 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 08:11 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 18:03 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:47 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:10 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 21:15 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:21 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:12 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 17:28 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 22:51 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:26 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 05:32 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 20:25 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-09 03:14 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 13:59 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-09 00:44 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 22:30 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:20 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:11 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:27 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:26 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:12 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:16 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:28 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-02 02:18 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:47 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 19:44 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:50 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:29 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:15 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:47 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 14:40 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:24 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 20:43 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:48 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-03 11:57 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:37 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:17 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:30 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 20:17 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-02 20:48 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 21:10 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 05:14 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-03 14:45 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 00:12 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 12:32 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 18:41 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-04 14:59 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 19:44 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 16:04 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-04 21:45 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 22:12 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 16:13 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 00:06 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 19:39 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:06 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 23:07 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:24 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:28 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-05 19:55 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:29 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 08:01 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:29 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:39 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:19 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-06 18:02 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:30 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-08 00:38 +1100
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 21:51 +0000
Re: Gary R. Schmidt's sig. "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-28 00:11 +1100
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-10-07 00:33 +0200
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 11:28 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 12:00 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:46 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:05 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 20:29 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:40 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 20:58 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 19:24 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 04:54 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 22:11 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 23:10 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 09:15 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-07 10:12 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:15 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 14:29 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-08 01:32 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 14:33 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 21:55 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:43 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 22:55 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 16:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 01:47 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:25 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 05:34 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 14:34 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-09 00:25 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 18:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-09 03:15 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 23:46 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-09 12:07 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-09 14:41 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:44 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-10-09 11:25 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:43 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-09 14:44 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <throbbingsausage@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:45 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 20:53 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 20:39 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lifer <lifer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 00:53 +0200
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-10 01:16 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 18:52 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-14 19:12 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 23:27 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 21:37 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-14 22:09 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-09 17:52 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 17:31 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:14 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 18:48 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:53 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 12:04 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:15 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 14:37 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:14 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 17:30 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:45 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 22:22 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:25 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 13:43 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 14:34 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 16:46 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 15:55 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 12:19 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 11:23 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 18:39 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 20:39 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-09 23:00 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 08:27 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 09:08 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 11:21 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 14:45 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 19:57 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 18:51 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 09:07 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 11:24 -0500
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 14:45 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-10 20:01 -0500
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-07 09:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA69A5E40DCF60taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #599816 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:57F73C64.6D0E@ix.netcom.com:
> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>> > In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> > <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> >> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>> >>
>> >>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> >>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> >>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> >>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> >>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> >>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> >>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>> >>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> >>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth".
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not "on the land portions of Earth". And we
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> would satisfy the latter.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would
>> >>>>>>>>>>> want to live there?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's
>> >>>>>>>>>> no large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nearest store for beer and other sundries?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to you in this context? How about a "Torricellian
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum"?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to
>> >>>>>>>>>>> you?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and
>> >>>>>>>>>> how close to the surface one needs to be to use one,
>> >>>>>>>>>> please. Sheesh.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>> >>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> surface works?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up
>> >>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems
>> >>>>>>>>>> to not have ever encountered.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump
>> >>>>>>>>> and a pushing pump?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater
>> >>>>>>>>> than 18,000 psi.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>> >>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is
>> >>>>>>>>> underwater.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation -
>> >>>>>>>> by eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There
>> >>>>>>>> are so many issues stemming from the pressure at
>> >>>>>>>> extreme depths under water that we don't spend much
>> >>>>>>>> time there. Those who do go down deep spend years in
>> >>>>>>>> specialized training, and boatloads of money in
>> >>>>>>>> specialized equipment. For a reason.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a
>> >>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of
>> >>>>>>> the original discussion.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>> >>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme
>> >>>>>> depths for short periods.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>> >>>> reason it isn't done already.
>> >>>
>> >>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of
>> >>> the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to
>> >>> North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>> >>
>> >> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to
>> >> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of -
>> >> various endeavours in the area.
>> >
>> > Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>> > people.
>>
>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>> >
>> > When most people look at places to live, they look at things
>> > like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the
>> > crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list.
>> >
>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, different,
>> exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>
>> Dumbass.
>
>
> There is no "way of life." on Mars... 'Prepare to Die'. Dumbass.
>
>
> When you were born your mother said "He looks just like your
> Fther, except with more asshole."
>
> And when you came home from school and told your mother "Look
> Mom, I got an A!" She said, "I bet I know what the A stands
> for."
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Terry Austin
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 10:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F7D77E.34E8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #599867 |
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: > > Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! > After many months your mom and dad trying to make ends meet, your father and mother decided that the only way they were going to get any extra cash was to have your mom start hooking. Early the next morning your mom comes home looking very haggard and worn out. The your father asks how she did, and your mom replied that she earned four hundred dollars and ten cents. "That`s great!" your father replies. "But who gave you the ten cents?" Your mom said..."Everybody!" .
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 10:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA69A686636767taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #599874 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:57F7D77E.34E8@ix.netcom.com:
> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>
>
>> Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark!
>> Bark!
>>
>
>
>
> After many months your mom and dad trying to make ends meet,
> your father and mother decided that the only way they were going
> to get any extra cash was to have your mom start hooking. Early
> the next morning your mom comes home looking very haggard and
> worn out. The your father asks how she did, and your mom replied
> that she earned four hundred dollars and ten cents. "That`s
> great!" your father replies. "But who gave you the ten cents?"
> Your mom said..."Everybody!" .
>
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--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 14:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nt8t38$1c4b$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #599877 |
On 10/7/2016 12:15 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in > news:57F7D77E.34E8@ix.netcom.com: > >> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: >> >>> Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! >>> Bark! >>> >> >> >> After many months your mom and dad trying to make ends meet, >> your father and mother decided that the only way they were going >> to get any extra cash was to have your mom start hooking. Early >> the next morning your mom comes home looking very haggard and >> worn out. The your father asks how she did, and your mom replied >> that she earned four hundred dollars and ten cents. "That`s >> great!" your father replies. "But who gave you the ten cents?" >> Your mom said..."Everybody!" . > > Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! > Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! > Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! > Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! 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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 01:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <t51hvb5tjh004s5e27pm945sf2mm1pl0so@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #599877 |
On Fri, 07 Oct 2016 10:15:46 -0700, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in >news:57F7D77E.34E8@ix.netcom.com: > >> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: >>> >> >>> Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! >>> Bark! >> >> After many months your mom and dad trying to make ends meet, >> your father and mother decided that the only way they were going >> to get any extra cash was to have your mom start hooking. Early >> the next morning your mom comes home looking very haggard and >> worn out. The your father asks how she did, and your mom replied >> that she earned four hundred dollars and ten cents. "That`s >> great!" your father replies. "But who gave you the ten cents?" >> Your mom said..."Everybody!" . >> > >Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! >Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! >Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! >Bark! 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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 14:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA69B94250925Etaustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #599970 |
Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote in
news:t51hvb5tjh004s5e27pm945sf2mm1pl0so@reader80.eternal-
september.org:
> Huh. You were surprisingly brief that time.
>
Yeah, well, Dumbass has a short attention span.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 21:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #599807 |
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". Not >>>>>>>>>>>>> "on the land portions of Earth". And we haven't even >>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to my first choice yet, which would satisfy >>>>>>>>>>>>> the latter. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would want >>>>>>>>>>>> to live there? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's no >>>>>>>>>>> large native mammals, if that helps you any. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nearest store for beer and other sundries? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything to >>>>>>>>>>>>> you in this context? How about a "Torricellian >>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum"? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to >>>>>>>>>>>> you? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and how >>>>>>>>>>> close to the surface one needs to be to use one, >>>>>>>>>>> please. Sheesh. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 knots >>>>>>>>>> folds the tube. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being >>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water on Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than >>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the surface >>>>>>>>>>>> works? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up >>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems to >>>>>>>>>>> not have ever encountered. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump and >>>>>>>>>> a pushing pump? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater than >>>>>>>>>> 18,000 psi. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero >>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is >>>>>>>>>> underwater. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by >>>>>>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are so >>>>>>>>> many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme depths >>>>>>>>> under water that we don't spend much time there. Those >>>>>>>>> who do go down deep spend years in specialized training, >>>>>>>>> and boatloads of money in specialized equipment. For a >>>>>>>>> reason. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a >>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of the >>>>>>>> original discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme >>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme >>>>>>> depths for short periods. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope, just living underwater. >>>>> >>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a >>>>> reason it isn't done already. >>>> >>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of the >>>> same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to North >>>> Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming? >>> >>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to >>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - various >>> endeavours in the area. >> >> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most people. > > It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and significant > effort has to be put into not dying. >> >> When most people look at places to live, they look at things >> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the crime >> rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list. >> > The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers. There's > no lack of people willing to try any new, different, exotic, > *exciting* way of life. That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't that popular. Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life would be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be like Star Trek? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-07 15:43 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #599926 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "on the land portions of Earth". And we haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even gotten to my first choice yet, which would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfy the latter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to live there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's
>>>>>>>>>>>> no large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nearest store for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you in this context? How about a "Torricellian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> how close to the surface one needs to be to use one,
>>>>>>>>>>>> please. Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water on Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up
>>>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems
>>>>>>>>>>>> to not have ever encountered.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump
>>>>>>>>>>> and a pushing pump?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater
>>>>>>>>>>> than 18,000 psi.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is
>>>>>>>>>>> underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by
>>>>>>>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are
>>>>>>>>>> so many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme
>>>>>>>>>> depths under water that we don't spend much time there.
>>>>>>>>>> Those who do go down deep spend years in specialized
>>>>>>>>>> training, and boatloads of money in specialized
>>>>>>>>>> equipment. For a reason.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a
>>>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of
>>>>>>>>> the original discussion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme
>>>>>>>> depths for short periods.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of
>>>>> the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to
>>>>> North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to
>>>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - various
>>>> endeavours in the area.
>>>
>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>> people.
>>
>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>
>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at things
>>> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the crime
>>> rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list.
>>>
>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, different,
>> exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>
> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't that
> popular.
That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living
underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
>
> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life would
> be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be like Star
> Trek?
>
I expect more of them understand the risks than you understand
living underwater. Or the difference between your ass and a hole in
the ground.
--
Terry Austin
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 22:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #599938 |
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "on the land portions of Earth". And we haven't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even gotten to my first choice yet, which would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfy the latter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to live there? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's >>>>>>>>>>>>> no large native mammals, if that helps you any. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nearest store for beer and other sundries? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you in this context? How about a "Torricellian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> how close to the surface one needs to be to use one, >>>>>>>>>>>>> please. Sheesh. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water on Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up >>>>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems >>>>>>>>>>>>> to not have ever encountered. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump >>>>>>>>>>>> and a pushing pump? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater >>>>>>>>>>>> than 18,000 psi. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero >>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is >>>>>>>>>>>> underwater. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by >>>>>>>>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are >>>>>>>>>>> so many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme >>>>>>>>>>> depths under water that we don't spend much time there. >>>>>>>>>>> Those who do go down deep spend years in specialized >>>>>>>>>>> training, and boatloads of money in specialized >>>>>>>>>>> equipment. For a reason. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a >>>>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of >>>>>>>>>> the original discussion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme >>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme >>>>>>>>> depths for short periods. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a >>>>>>> reason it isn't done already. >>>>>> >>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of >>>>>> the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to >>>>>> North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming? >>>>> >>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to >>>>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - various >>>>> endeavours in the area. >>>> >>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most >>>> people. >>> >>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and >>> significant effort has to be put into not dying. >>>> >>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at things >>>> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the crime >>>> rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list. >>>> >>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers. >>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, different, >>> exotic, *exciting* way of life. >> >> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't that >> popular. > > That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living > underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever. As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you expect? >> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life would >> be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be like Star >> Trek? >> > I expect more of them understand the risks than you understand > living underwater. Or the difference between your ass and a hole in > the ground. I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries. What else would one need to know? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-07 16:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA69AA6AF25949taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #599943 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "on the land portions of Earth". And we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would satisfy the latter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to live there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nearest store for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how close to the surface one needs to be to use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, please. Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to not have ever encountered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a pushing pump?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 18,000 psi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation -
>>>>>>>>>>>> by eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There
>>>>>>>>>>>> are so many issues stemming from the pressure at
>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths under water that we don't spend much
>>>>>>>>>>>> time there. Those who do go down deep spend years in
>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized training, and boatloads of money in
>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized equipment. For a reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a
>>>>>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of
>>>>>>>>>>> the original discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme
>>>>>>>>>> depths for short periods.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>>>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of
>>>>>>> the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to
>>>>>>> North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to
>>>>>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of -
>>>>>> various endeavours in the area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>>>> people.
>>>>
>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>>>
>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at things
>>>>> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the
>>>>> crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list.
>>>>>
>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, different,
>>>> exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>>
>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't that
>>> popular.
>>
>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living
>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
>
> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you expect?
You are, indeed, silly.
>
>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life would
>>> be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be like
>>> Star Trek?
>>>
>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you understand
>> living underwater. Or the difference between your ass and a
>> hole in the ground.
>
> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be
> had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and
> that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries.
>
> What else would one need to know?
>
That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows that
already.
--
Terry Austin
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 01:47 +0000 |
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In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "on the land portions of Earth". And we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would satisfy the latter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to live there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no large native mammals, if that helps you any. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nearest store for beer and other sundries? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how close to the surface one needs to be to use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, please. Sheesh. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to not have ever encountered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a pushing pump? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 18,000 psi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero >>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> underwater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - >>>>>>>>>>>>> by eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There >>>>>>>>>>>>> are so many issues stemming from the pressure at >>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths under water that we don't spend much >>>>>>>>>>>>> time there. Those who do go down deep spend years in >>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized training, and boatloads of money in >>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized equipment. For a reason. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a >>>>>>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of >>>>>>>>>>>> the original discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme >>>>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme >>>>>>>>>>> depths for short periods. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a >>>>>>>>> reason it isn't done already. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of >>>>>>>> the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to >>>>>>>> North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to >>>>>>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - >>>>>>> various endeavours in the area. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most >>>>>> people. >>>>> >>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and >>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying. >>>>>> >>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at things >>>>>> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the >>>>>> crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list. >>>>>> >>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers. >>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, different, >>>>> exotic, *exciting* way of life. >>>> >>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't that >>>> popular. >>> >>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living >>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever. >> >> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you expect? > > You are, indeed, silly. >> >>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life would >>>> be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be like >>>> Star Trek? >>>> >>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you understand >>> living underwater. Or the difference between your ass and a >>> hole in the ground. >> >> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be >> had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and >> that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries. >> >> What else would one need to know? >> > That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows that > already. Yet more arm waving and insults. What did I just say that is untrue? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-07 21:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA69AD9E59AA60taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #599957 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we haven't even gotten to my first choice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet, which would satisfy the latter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to live there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that helps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface and an air pump for air and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat to the nearest store for beer and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and how close to the surface one needs to be to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use one, please. Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up there, to him? It's basic physics... which he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to not have ever encountered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pump and a pushing pump?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - by eveyrone - I don't even know where to start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are so many issues stemming from the pressure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at extreme depths under water that we don't spend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much time there. Those who do go down deep spend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years in specialized training, and boatloads of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money in specialized equipment. For a reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of hundred feet, but that is not the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject of the original discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths for short periods.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>>>>>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many
>>>>>>>>> of the same reasons few people, except for refugees,
>>>>>>>>> move to North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like
>>>>>>>> to believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of -
>>>>>>>> various endeavours in the area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at
>>>>>>> things like the schools, shopping, recreation, local
>>>>>>> taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually
>>>>>>> on the list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>>>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new,
>>>>>> different, exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't
>>>>> that popular.
>>>>
>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living
>>>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
>>>
>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you
>>> expect?
>>
>> You are, indeed, silly.
>>>
>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life
>>>>> would be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be
>>>>> like Star Trek?
>>>>>
>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you
>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between your
>>>> ass and a hole in the ground.
>>>
>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be
>>> had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and
>>> that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries.
>>>
>>> What else would one need to know?
>>>
>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows
>> that already.
>
> Yet more arm waving and insults.
I know you are, but what am I?
>
> What did I just say that is untrue?
>
Who cares?
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-08 05:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <a3dmcd-g3k.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #599965 |
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of Earth". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we haven't even gotten to my first choice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet, which would satisfy the latter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to live there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that helps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you any. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface and an air pump for air and a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat to the nearest store for beer and other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sundries? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and how close to the surface one needs to be to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use one, please. Sheesh. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than "there's no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up there, to him? It's basic physics... which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to not have ever encountered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pump and a pushing pump? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is underwater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - by eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are so many issues stemming from the pressure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at extreme depths under water that we don't spend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much time there. Those who do go down deep spend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years in specialized training, and boatloads of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money in specialized equipment. For a reason. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of hundred feet, but that is not the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject of the original discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme >>>>>>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to >>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths for short periods. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a >>>>>>>>>>> reason it isn't done already. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many >>>>>>>>>> of the same reasons few people, except for refugees, >>>>>>>>>> move to North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like >>>>>>>>> to believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - >>>>>>>>> various endeavours in the area. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most >>>>>>>> people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and >>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at >>>>>>>> things like the schools, shopping, recreation, local >>>>>>>> taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually >>>>>>>> on the list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers. >>>>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, >>>>>>> different, exotic, *exciting* way of life. >>>>>> >>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't >>>>>> that popular. >>>>> >>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living >>>>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever. >>>> >>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you >>>> expect? >>> >>> You are, indeed, silly. >>>> >>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life >>>>>> would be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be >>>>>> like Star Trek? >>>>>> >>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you >>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between your >>>>> ass and a hole in the ground. >>>> >>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be >>>> had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and >>>> that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries. >>>> >>>> What else would one need to know? >>>> >>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows >>> that already. >> >> Yet more arm waving and insults. > > I know you are, but what am I? >> >> What did I just say that is untrue? >> > Who cares? Apparently you. So exactly what did I just say that is untrue? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-08 14:34 -0700 |
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jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
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> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we haven't even gotten to my first choice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet, which would satisfy the latter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to live there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that helps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface and an air pump for air and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat to the nearest store for beer and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and how close to the surface one needs to be to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use one, please. Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 knots folds the tube.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up there, to him? It's basic physics... which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he seems to not have ever encountered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pump and a pushing pump?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation - by eveyrone - I don't even know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where to start. There are so many issues stemming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the pressure at extreme depths under water
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we don't spend much time there. Those who do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go down deep spend years in specialized training,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and boatloads of money in specialized equipment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond a couple of hundred feet, but that is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the subject of the original discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths. This is more challenging than going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to extreme depths for short periods.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still
>>>>>>>>>>>> a reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for
>>>>>>>>>>> many of the same reasons few people, except for
>>>>>>>>>>> refugees, move to North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would
>>>>>>>>>> like to believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a
>>>>>>>>>> lot of - various endeavours in the area.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at
>>>>>>>>> things like the schools, shopping, recreation, local
>>>>>>>>> taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't
>>>>>>>>> usually on the list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>>>>>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new,
>>>>>>>> different, exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't
>>>>>>> that popular.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living
>>>>>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
>>>>>
>>>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you
>>>>> expect?
>>>>
>>>> You are, indeed, silly.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life
>>>>>>> would be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT
>>>>>>> be like Star Trek?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you
>>>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between
>>>>>> your ass and a hole in the ground.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can
>>>>> be had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive,
>>>>> and that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get
>>>>> groceries.
>>>>>
>>>>> What else would one need to know?
>>>>>
>>>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows
>>>> that already.
>>>
>>> Yet more arm waving and insults.
>>
>> I know you are, but what am I?
>>>
>>> What did I just say that is untrue?
>>>
>> Who cares?
>
> Apparently you.
You're projecting, son.
>
> So exactly what did I just say that is untrue?
>
Who cares?
--
Terry Austin
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| Date | 2016-10-09 00:25 +0000 |
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In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:a3dmcd-g3k.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of Earth". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we haven't even gotten to my first choice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet, which would satisfy the latter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to live there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that helps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you any. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface and an air pump for air and a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat to the nearest store for beer and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other sundries? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and how close to the surface one needs to be to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use one, please. Sheesh. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 knots folds the tube. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than "there's no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up there, to him? It's basic physics... which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he seems to not have ever encountered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pump and a pushing pump? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is underwater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation - by eveyrone - I don't even know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where to start. There are so many issues stemming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the pressure at extreme depths under water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we don't spend much time there. Those who do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go down deep spend years in specialized training, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and boatloads of money in specialized equipment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a reason. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond a couple of hundred feet, but that is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the subject of the original discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths. This is more challenging than going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to extreme depths for short periods. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still >>>>>>>>>>>>> a reason it isn't done already. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for >>>>>>>>>>>> many of the same reasons few people, except for >>>>>>>>>>>> refugees, move to North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would >>>>>>>>>>> like to believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a >>>>>>>>>>> lot of - various endeavours in the area. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most >>>>>>>>>> people. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and >>>>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at >>>>>>>>>> things like the schools, shopping, recreation, local >>>>>>>>>> taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't >>>>>>>>>> usually on the list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers. >>>>>>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, >>>>>>>>> different, exotic, *exciting* way of life. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't >>>>>>>> that popular. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living >>>>>>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever. >>>>>> >>>>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you >>>>>> expect? >>>>> >>>>> You are, indeed, silly. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life >>>>>>>> would be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT >>>>>>>> be like Star Trek? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you >>>>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between >>>>>>> your ass and a hole in the ground. >>>>>> >>>>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can >>>>>> be had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, >>>>>> and that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get >>>>>> groceries. >>>>>> >>>>>> What else would one need to know? >>>>>> >>>>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows >>>>> that already. >>>> >>>> Yet more arm waving and insults. >>> >>> I know you are, but what am I? >>>> >>>> What did I just say that is untrue? >>>> >>> Who cares? >> >> Apparently you. > > You're projecting, son. >> >> So exactly what did I just say that is untrue? >> > Who cares? Apparently you as you keep posting. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-08 18:23 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #600059 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:ubfocd-5tq.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:a3dmcd-g3k.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first choice yet, which would satisfy the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to live there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the surface and an air pump for air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a boat to the nearest store for beer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ARE, and how close to the surface one needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be to use one, please. Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or 6 knots folds the tube.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to being under water on Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OTHER than "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface works?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet", up there, to him? It's basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physics... which he seems to not have ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encountered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sucking pump and a pushing pump?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zero correlation with the depth of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> container if it is underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation - by eveyrone - I don't even know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where to start. There are so many issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stemming from the pressure at extreme depths
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water that we don't spend much time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. Those who do go down deep spend years in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized training, and boatloads of money in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized equipment. For a reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond a couple of hundred feet, but that is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the subject of the original discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths. This is more challenging than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to extreme depths for short periods.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still a reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> many of the same reasons few people, except for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees, move to North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would
>>>>>>>>>>>> like to believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a
>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of - various endeavours in the area.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to
>>>>>>>>>>> most people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>>>>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at
>>>>>>>>>>> things like the schools, shopping, recreation, local
>>>>>>>>>>> taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't
>>>>>>>>>>> usually on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000
>>>>>>>>>> volunteers. There's no lack of people willing to try
>>>>>>>>>> any new, different, exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't
>>>>>>>>> that popular.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living
>>>>>>>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you
>>>>>>> expect?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are, indeed, silly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life
>>>>>>>>> would be like, what the dangers are and that it would
>>>>>>>>> NOT be like Star Trek?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you
>>>>>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between
>>>>>>>> your ass and a hole in the ground.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can
>>>>>>> be had off the shelf, that doing so would be very
>>>>>>> expensive, and that it would be a giant pain in the ass to
>>>>>>> get groceries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What else would one need to know?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you
>>>>>> knows that already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet more arm waving and insults.
>>>>
>>>> I know you are, but what am I?
>>>>>
>>>>> What did I just say that is untrue?
>>>>>
>>>> Who cares?
>>>
>>> Apparently you.
>>
>> You're projecting, son.
>>>
>>> So exactly what did I just say that is untrue?
>>>
>> Who cares?
>
> Apparently you as you keep posting.
>
You're projecting again, son.
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
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| Date | 2016-10-09 03:15 +0000 |
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In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in > news:ubfocd-5tq.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:a3dmcd-g3k.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>> news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dakidd@sonic.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first choice yet, which would satisfy the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to live there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps you any. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the surface and an air pump for air >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a boat to the nearest store for beer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other sundries? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "Torricellian vacuum"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ARE, and how close to the surface one needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be to use one, please. Sheesh. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or 6 knots folds the tube. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to being under water on Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OTHER than "there's no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface works? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet", up there, to him? It's basic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physics... which he seems to not have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encountered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sucking pump and a pushing pump? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zero correlation with the depth of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> container if it is underwater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation - by eveyrone - I don't even know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where to start. There are so many issues >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stemming from the pressure at extreme depths >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water that we don't spend much time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. Those who do go down deep spend years in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized training, and boatloads of money in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized equipment. For a reason. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond a couple of hundred feet, but that is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the subject of the original discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths. This is more challenging than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to extreme depths for short periods. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still a reason it isn't done already. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> many of the same reasons few people, except for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees, move to North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would >>>>>>>>>>>>> like to believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of - various endeavours in the area. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to >>>>>>>>>>>> most people. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and >>>>>>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at >>>>>>>>>>>> things like the schools, shopping, recreation, local >>>>>>>>>>>> taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't >>>>>>>>>>>> usually on the list. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 >>>>>>>>>>> volunteers. There's no lack of people willing to try >>>>>>>>>>> any new, different, exotic, *exciting* way of life. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't >>>>>>>>>> that popular. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living >>>>>>>>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you >>>>>>>> expect? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are, indeed, silly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life >>>>>>>>>> would be like, what the dangers are and that it would >>>>>>>>>> NOT be like Star Trek? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you >>>>>>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between >>>>>>>>> your ass and a hole in the ground. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can >>>>>>>> be had off the shelf, that doing so would be very >>>>>>>> expensive, and that it would be a giant pain in the ass to >>>>>>>> get groceries. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What else would one need to know? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you >>>>>>> knows that already. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yet more arm waving and insults. >>>>> >>>>> I know you are, but what am I? >>>>>> >>>>>> What did I just say that is untrue? >>>>>> >>>>> Who cares? >>>> >>>> Apparently you. >>> >>> You're projecting, son. >>>> >>>> So exactly what did I just say that is untrue? >>>> >>> Who cares? >> >> Apparently you as you keep posting. >> > You're projecting again, son. You're the one that keeps up the baiting. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-08 23:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA69BF1CAA5A82taustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #600089 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:sapocd-8sr.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:ubfocd-5tq.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:a3dmcd-g3k.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first choice yet, which would satisfy the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people would want to live there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the surface and an air pump for air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a boat to the nearest store for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about a "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ARE, and how close to the surface one needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be to use one, please. Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or 6 knots folds the tube.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenge to being under water on Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OTHER than "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface works?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet", up there, to him? It's basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physics... which he seems to not have ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encountered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sucking pump and a pushing pump?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zero correlation with the depth of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> container if it is underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation - by eveyrone - I don't even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know where to start. There are so many issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stemming from the pressure at extreme depths
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water that we don't spend much time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. Those who do go down deep spend years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in specialized training, and boatloads of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money in specialized equipment. For a reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond a couple of hundred feet, but that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the subject of the original discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths. This is more challenging than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to extreme depths for short periods.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still a reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many of the same reasons few people, except for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees, move to North Dakota, Alaska, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wyoming?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to believe. It's not like there hasn't been -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of - various endeavours in the area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> most people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at things like the schools, shopping, recreation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> local taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't usually on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000
>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteers. There's no lack of people willing to try
>>>>>>>>>>>> any new, different, exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously
>>>>>>>>>>> isn't that popular.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people
>>>>>>>>>> living underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will
>>>>>>>>>> be, ever.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you
>>>>>>>>> expect?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are, indeed, silly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what
>>>>>>>>>>> life would be like, what the dangers are and that it
>>>>>>>>>>> would NOT be like Star Trek?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you
>>>>>>>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between
>>>>>>>>>> your ass and a hole in the ground.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater
>>>>>>>>> can be had off the shelf, that doing so would be very
>>>>>>>>> expensive, and that it would be a giant pain in the ass
>>>>>>>>> to get groceries.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What else would one need to know?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you
>>>>>>>> knows that already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet more arm waving and insults.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you are, but what am I?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What did I just say that is untrue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who cares?
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently you.
>>>>
>>>> You're projecting, son.
>>>>>
>>>>> So exactly what did I just say that is untrue?
>>>>>
>>>> Who cares?
>>>
>>> Apparently you as you keep posting.
>>>
>> You're projecting again, son.
>
> You're the one that keeps up the baiting.
>
You're the one dangling on the hook, utterly unable to free
yoruself.
--
Terry Austin
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-09 12:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <0qqkvbh09qka2rnih0mr2g31rsifgibr6i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600094 |
On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 23:46:08 -0700, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: >jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >news:sapocd-8sr.ln1@mail.specsol.com: > >> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>> news:ubfocd-5tq.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>> news:a3dmcd-g3k.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>> news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dakidd@sonic.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". And we haven't even gotten to my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first choice yet, which would satisfy the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people would want to live there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps you any. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the surface and an air pump for air >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a boat to the nearest store for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beer and other sundries? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about a "Torricellian vacuum"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ARE, and how close to the surface one needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be to use one, please. Sheesh. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or 6 knots folds the tube. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenge to being under water on Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OTHER than "there's no AIR there, dude"? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface works? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet", up there, to him? It's basic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physics... which he seems to not have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encountered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sucking pump and a pushing pump? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zero correlation with the depth of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> container if it is underwater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation - by eveyrone - I don't even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know where to start. There are so many issues >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stemming from the pressure at extreme depths >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water that we don't spend much time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. Those who do go down deep spend years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in specialized training, and boatloads of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money in specialized equipment. For a reason. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond a couple of hundred feet, but that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the subject of the original discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths. This is more challenging than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to extreme depths for short periods. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still a reason it isn't done already. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many of the same reasons few people, except for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees, move to North Dakota, Alaska, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wyoming? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to believe. It's not like there hasn't been - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of - various endeavours in the area. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> most people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at things like the schools, shopping, recreation, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> local taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't usually on the list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 >>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteers. There's no lack of people willing to try >>>>>>>>>>>>> any new, different, exotic, *exciting* way of life. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously >>>>>>>>>>>> isn't that popular. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people >>>>>>>>>>> living underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will >>>>>>>>>>> be, ever. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you >>>>>>>>>> expect? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You are, indeed, silly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what >>>>>>>>>>>> life would be like, what the dangers are and that it >>>>>>>>>>>> would NOT be like Star Trek? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you >>>>>>>>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between >>>>>>>>>>> your ass and a hole in the ground. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater >>>>>>>>>> can be had off the shelf, that doing so would be very >>>>>>>>>> expensive, and that it would be a giant pain in the ass >>>>>>>>>> to get groceries. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What else would one need to know? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you >>>>>>>>> knows that already. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yet more arm waving and insults. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know you are, but what am I? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What did I just say that is untrue? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Who cares? >>>>>> >>>>>> Apparently you. >>>>> >>>>> You're projecting, son. >>>>>> >>>>>> So exactly what did I just say that is untrue? >>>>>> >>>>> Who cares? >>>> >>>> Apparently you as you keep posting. >>>> >>> You're projecting again, son. >> >> You're the one that keeps up the baiting. >> >You're the one dangling on the hook, utterly unable to free >yoruself. So you admit you are trolling.
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-09 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA69C73CE5C363taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #600114 |
Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote in
news:0qqkvbh09qka2rnih0mr2g31rsifgibr6i@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 23:46:08 -0700, Gutless Umbrella Carrying
> Sissy wrote:
>
>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>news:sapocd-8sr.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:ubfocd-5tq.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:a3dmcd-g3k.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "on Earth". Not "on the land portions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Earth". And we haven't even gotten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my first choice yet, which would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfy the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people would want to live there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear. There's no large native mammals, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pipe to the surface and an air pump
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a boat to the nearest store for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean anything to you in this context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about a "Torricellian vacuum"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snorkels ARE, and how close to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface one needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be to use one, please. Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 or 6 knots folds the tube.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenge to being under water on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OTHER than "there's no AIR there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the surface works?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet", up there, to him? It's basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physics... which he seems to not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever encountered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sucking pump and a pushing pump?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achive greater than 18,000 psi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zero correlation with the depth of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> container if it is underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation - by eveyrone - I don't even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know where to start. There are so many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues stemming from the pressure at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths under water that we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend much time there. Those who do go down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deep spend years in specialized training,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and boatloads of money in specialized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment. For a reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far beyond a couple of hundred feet, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is not the subject of the original
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths. This is more challenging than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to extreme depths for short periods.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still a reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for many of the same reasons few people, except
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for refugees, move to North Dakota, Alaska, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wyoming?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would like to believe. It's not like there hasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been - a lot of - various endeavours in the area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to most people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and significant effort has to be put into not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at things like the schools, shopping, recreation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't usually on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteers. There's no lack of people willing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try any new, different, exotic, *exciting* way of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously
>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't that popular.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people
>>>>>>>>>>>> living underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will
>>>>>>>>>>>> be, ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would
>>>>>>>>>>> you expect?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are, indeed, silly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> life would be like, what the dangers are and that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would NOT be like Star Trek?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference
>>>>>>>>>>>> between your ass and a hole in the ground.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater
>>>>>>>>>>> can be had off the shelf, that doing so would be very
>>>>>>>>>>> expensive, and that it would be a giant pain in the
>>>>>>>>>>> ass to get groceries.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What else would one need to know?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you
>>>>>>>>>> knows that already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet more arm waving and insults.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know you are, but what am I?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What did I just say that is untrue?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who cares?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're projecting, son.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So exactly what did I just say that is untrue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who cares?
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently you as you keep posting.
>>>>>
>>>> You're projecting again, son.
>>>
>>> You're the one that keeps up the baiting.
>>>
>>You're the one dangling on the hook, utterly unable to free
>>yoruself.
>
> So you admit you are trolling.
>
And you admit you're hooked, and *cannot* free yourself.
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