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1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
Last post2016-10-05 13:25 -0500
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  1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 19:50 -0500
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 20:43 -0500
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:16 -0500
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:22 -0500
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 22:47 -0500
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-10-01 13:48 +0000
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 15:27 +0100
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:53 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 21:53 +0100
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:06 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 13:31 -0700
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-01 15:03 -0700
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-02 14:54 -0700
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-02 00:18 -0400
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 09:31 -0500
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:57 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 08:11 -0700
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 18:03 +0000
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:47 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:10 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 21:15 +0000
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:21 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:12 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 17:28 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 22:51 +0000
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:26 -0500
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 05:32 +0000
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 13:59 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:20 -0700
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:11 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:27 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:26 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:12 +0000
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:16 -0400
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:28 +0000
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-02 02:18 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:47 -0400
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 19:44 -0400
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:50 +0000
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:29 -0700
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:15 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:47 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 14:40 -0500
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:24 +0000
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 20:43 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:48 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-03 11:57 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:37 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:17 -0500
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:30 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 20:17 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-02 20:48 -0500
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 21:10 -0500
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 05:14 +0000
                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-03 14:45 -0500
                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 00:12 +0000
                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 12:32 -0500
                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 18:41 +0000
                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-04 14:59 -0400
                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 19:44 +0000
                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 16:04 -0400
                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-04 21:45 +0000
                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 22:12 +0000
                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 16:13 -0700
                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 00:06 +0000
                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 19:39 -0700
                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:06 +0000
                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 23:07 -0500
                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:24 +0000
                                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:28 -0500
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-05 19:55 -0700
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:29 +0000
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 08:01 -0500
                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:29 +0000
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:19 +0000
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-06 18:02 +0000
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:30 +0000
                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-08 00:38 +1100
                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 21:51 +0000
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-10-07 00:33 +0200
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 11:28 -0700
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 12:00 -0700
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:46 +0000
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                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 20:29 +0000
                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:40 -0700
                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 20:58 +0000
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                                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 04:54 +0000
                                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 22:11 -0700
                                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 23:10 -0700
                                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 09:15 -0700
                                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-07 10:12 -0700
                                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:15 -0700
                                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 14:29 -0500
                                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-08 01:32 -0400
                                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 21:55 +0000
                                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:43 -0700
                                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 22:55 +0000
                                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 16:23 -0700
                                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 01:47 +0000
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                                                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 05:34 +0000
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 17:31 -0500
                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 18:48 -0500
                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 12:04 -0500
                                                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:15 -0700
                                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 14:37 -0500
                                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 17:30 -0500
                                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:45 -0700
                                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 22:22 -0500
                                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:25 -0700
                                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 13:43 -0500
                                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-07 22:01 -0700
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-06 20:42 -0400
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-06 06:53 +0000
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 07:58 -0500
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 08:08 -0500
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:38 +0000
                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 15:56 -0700
                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 00:14 +0000
                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 19:39 -0700
                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:25 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 11:00 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:20 -0500
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 22:07 -0500
                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 13:45 -0700
                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 21:13 +0000
                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 21:22 -0500
                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 04:59 +0000
                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 12:17 -0500
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 00:26 +0000
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 17:35 -0700
                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 21:12 -0500
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-02 22:32 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 05:15 +0000
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 17:23 -0500
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-08 12:20 -0700
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 05:30 +0000
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 09:35 -0500
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:17 +0300
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 18:12 +0000
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-02 01:17 +0300
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 19:08 -0400
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 00:11 +0000
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:50 -0400
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:26 +0000
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 20:47 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 00:09 +0000
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-02 22:06 +0300
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:54 -0400
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:40 +0000
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 08:29 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 20:46 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 21:27 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:56 -0400
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 18:07 +0000
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#599938

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-07 15:43 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA69A9FE9D2690taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#599926
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 

> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>> 
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>> 
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "on the land portions of Earth". And we haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even gotten to my first choice yet, which would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfy the latter. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to live there? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's
>>>>>>>>>>>> no large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nearest store for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you in this context? How about a "Torricellian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum"? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> how close to the surface one needs to be to use one,
>>>>>>>>>>>> please. Sheesh. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water on Earth. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up
>>>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems
>>>>>>>>>>>> to not have ever encountered. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump
>>>>>>>>>>> and a pushing pump? 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater
>>>>>>>>>>> than 18,000 psi. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is
>>>>>>>>>>> underwater. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by
>>>>>>>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are
>>>>>>>>>> so many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme
>>>>>>>>>> depths under water that we don't spend much time there.
>>>>>>>>>> Those who do go down deep spend years in specialized
>>>>>>>>>> training, and boatloads of money in specialized
>>>>>>>>>> equipment. For a reason. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a
>>>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of
>>>>>>>>> the original discussion. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme
>>>>>>>> depths for short periods. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of
>>>>> the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to
>>>>> North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>> 
>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to 
>>>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - various
>>>> endeavours in the area.
>>> 
>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>> people. 
>> 
>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>> 
>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at things
>>> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the crime
>>> rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list.
>>> 
>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, different,
>> exotic, *exciting* way of life.
> 
> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't that
> popular. 

That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living 
underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
> 
> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life would
> be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be like Star
> Trek? 
> 
I expect more of them understand the risks than you understand 
living underwater. Or the difference between your ass and a hole in 
the ground.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#599943

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-07 22:55 +0000
Message-ID<mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599938
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
> 
>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>> 
>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "on the land portions of Earth". And we haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even gotten to my first choice yet, which would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfy the latter. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to live there? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nearest store for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you in this context? How about a "Torricellian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum"? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how close to the surface one needs to be to use one,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please. Sheesh. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under water on Earth. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to not have ever encountered. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump
>>>>>>>>>>>> and a pushing pump? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater
>>>>>>>>>>>> than 18,000 psi. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> underwater. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation - by
>>>>>>>>>>> eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There are
>>>>>>>>>>> so many issues stemming from the pressure at extreme
>>>>>>>>>>> depths under water that we don't spend much time there.
>>>>>>>>>>> Those who do go down deep spend years in specialized
>>>>>>>>>>> training, and boatloads of money in specialized
>>>>>>>>>>> equipment. For a reason. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a
>>>>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of
>>>>>>>>>> the original discussion. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme
>>>>>>>>> depths for short periods. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of
>>>>>> the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to
>>>>>> North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to 
>>>>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of - various
>>>>> endeavours in the area.
>>>> 
>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>>> people. 
>>> 
>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>> 
>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at things
>>>> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the crime
>>>> rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list.
>>>> 
>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, different,
>>> exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>> 
>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't that
>> popular. 
> 
> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living 
> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.

As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you expect?

>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life would
>> be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be like Star
>> Trek? 
>> 
> I expect more of them understand the risks than you understand 
> living underwater. Or the difference between your ass and a hole in 
> the ground.

I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be had
off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and that it
would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries.

What else would one need to know?
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599949

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-07 16:23 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA69AA6AF25949taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#599943
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 

> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>> 
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>> 
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "on the land portions of Earth". And we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would satisfy the latter. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to live there? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nearest store for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how close to the surface one needs to be to use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, please. Sheesh. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to not have ever encountered. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a pushing pump? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 18,000 psi. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> underwater. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation -
>>>>>>>>>>>> by eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There
>>>>>>>>>>>> are so many issues stemming from the pressure at
>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths under water that we don't spend much
>>>>>>>>>>>> time there. Those who do go down deep spend years in
>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized training, and boatloads of money in
>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized equipment. For a reason. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a
>>>>>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of
>>>>>>>>>>> the original discussion. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme
>>>>>>>>>> depths for short periods. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>>>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of
>>>>>>> the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to
>>>>>>> North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to
>>>>>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of -
>>>>>> various endeavours in the area.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>>>> people. 
>>>> 
>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at things
>>>>> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the
>>>>> crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list.
>>>>> 
>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, different,
>>>> exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>> 
>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't that
>>> popular. 
>> 
>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living 
>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
> 
> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you expect?

You are, indeed, silly.
> 
>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life would
>>> be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be like
>>> Star Trek? 
>>> 
>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you understand 
>> living underwater. Or the difference between your ass and a
>> hole in the ground.
> 
> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be
> had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and
> that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries.
> 
> What else would one need to know?
> 
That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows that 
already.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#599957

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-08 01:47 +0000
Message-ID<opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599949
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
> 
>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>> 
>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not "on the land portions of Earth". And we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't even gotten to my first choice yet, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would satisfy the latter. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to live there? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear. There's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no large native mammals, if that helps you any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface and an air pump for air and a boat to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nearest store for beer and other sundries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how close to the surface one needs to be to use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, please. Sheesh. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet", up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there, to him? It's basic physics... which he seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to not have ever encountered. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking pump
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a pushing pump? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 18,000 psi. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> underwater. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by eveyrone - I don't even know where to start. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are so many issues stemming from the pressure at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths under water that we don't spend much
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time there. Those who do go down deep spend years in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized training, and boatloads of money in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized equipment. For a reason. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond a
>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of hundred feet, but that is not the subject of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the original discussion. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to extreme
>>>>>>>>>>> depths for short periods. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>>>>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many of
>>>>>>>> the same reasons few people, except for refugees, move to
>>>>>>>> North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like to
>>>>>>> believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of -
>>>>>>> various endeavours in the area.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>>>>> people. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at things
>>>>>> like the schools, shopping, recreation, local taxes, the
>>>>>> crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually on the list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new, different,
>>>>> exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>>> 
>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't that
>>>> popular. 
>>> 
>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living 
>>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
>> 
>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you expect?
> 
> You are, indeed, silly.
>> 
>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life would
>>>> be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be like
>>>> Star Trek? 
>>>> 
>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you understand 
>>> living underwater. Or the difference between your ass and a
>>> hole in the ground.
>> 
>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be
>> had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and
>> that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries.
>> 
>> What else would one need to know?
>> 
> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows that 
> already.
 
Yet more arm waving and insults.

What did I just say that is untrue?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599965

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-07 21:25 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA69AD9E59AA60taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#599957
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 

> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>> 
>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>> 
>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we haven't even gotten to my first choice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet, which would satisfy the latter. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to live there? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that helps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you any. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface and an air pump for air and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat to the nearest store for beer and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sundries? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and how close to the surface one needs to be to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use one, please. Sheesh. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up there, to him? It's basic physics... which he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to not have ever encountered. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pump and a pushing pump? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is underwater. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - by eveyrone - I don't even know where to start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are so many issues stemming from the pressure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at extreme depths under water that we don't spend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much time there. Those who do go down deep spend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years in specialized training, and boatloads of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money in specialized equipment. For a reason. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of hundred feet, but that is not the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject of the original discussion. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths for short periods. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>>>>>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many
>>>>>>>>> of the same reasons few people, except for refugees,
>>>>>>>>> move to North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like
>>>>>>>> to believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of -
>>>>>>>> various endeavours in the area.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>>>>>> people. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at
>>>>>>> things like the schools, shopping, recreation, local
>>>>>>> taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually
>>>>>>> on the list. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>>>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new,
>>>>>> different, exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't
>>>>> that popular. 
>>>> 
>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living 
>>>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
>>> 
>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you
>>> expect? 
>> 
>> You are, indeed, silly.
>>> 
>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life
>>>>> would be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be
>>>>> like Star Trek? 
>>>>> 
>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you
>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between your
>>>> ass and a hole in the ground.
>>> 
>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be
>>> had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and
>>> that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries.
>>> 
>>> What else would one need to know?
>>> 
>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows
>> that already.
>  
> Yet more arm waving and insults.

I know you are, but what am I?
> 
> What did I just say that is untrue?
> 
Who cares?

-- 
Terry Austin

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https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#599976

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-08 05:34 +0000
Message-ID<a3dmcd-g3k.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599965
In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
> news:opvlcd-eri.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
> 
>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>> news:mollcd-7rh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>> 
>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>> news:u7ilcd-beh.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>> news:vdmjcd-gab.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:ehqicd-5f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:dqoicd-8b8.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:soiicd-0i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a00hcd-432.ln1@mail.specsol.com: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sure, move the goalposts. You said "on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth". Not "on the land portions of Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we haven't even gotten to my first choice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet, which would satisfy the latter. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be where and how many people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to live there? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd be just as ignorant about it, I fear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no large native mammals, if that helps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you any. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information free arm waving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is difficult about running a pipe to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the surface and an air pump for air and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat to the nearest store for beer and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sundries? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, does the distance "32 feet" mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to you in this context? How about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Torricellian vacuum"? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in the context of an underwater structure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the term "submarine snorkel" mean anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... Go look up how long submarine snorkels ARE,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and how close to the surface one needs to be to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use one, please. Sheesh. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, because submarines MOVE and much over 5 or 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knots folds the tube. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fixed habitat does not have that issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have yet to define any real challenge to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being under water on Earth. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to clue him in on the ones OTHER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than "there's no AIR there, dude"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain how an air pump on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface works? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain WHY I invoked "32 feet",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up there, to him? It's basic physics... which he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to not have ever encountered. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to explain the difference a sucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pump and a pushing pump? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the shelf compressors can easily achive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 18,000 psi. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is 18,000 psi in feet of water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pressure inside a closed container has zero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation with the depth of the container if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is underwater. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bathyspheres go down to 3,000 feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is so much cluelessness in this conversation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - by eveyrone - I don't even know where to start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are so many issues stemming from the pressure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at extreme depths under water that we don't spend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much time there. Those who do go down deep spend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years in specialized training, and boatloads of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money in specialized equipment. For a reason. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, when one is doing research at depths far beyond
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of hundred feet, but that is not the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject of the original discussion. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original discussion seems to be living at extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>> depths. This is more challenging than going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme depths for short periods. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, just living underwater.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer obstacles, if one is shallow, but there's still a
>>>>>>>>>>> reason it isn't done already.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Like maybe very few people would want to do it for many
>>>>>>>>>> of the same reasons few people, except for refugees,
>>>>>>>>>> move to North Dakota, Alaska, and Wyoming?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's more difficult than some people would like
>>>>>>>>> to believe. It's not like there hasn't been - a lot of -
>>>>>>>>> various endeavours in the area.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Or maybe it is expensive and not very attractive to most
>>>>>>>> people. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's very expensive because it's very dangerous, and
>>>>>>> significant effort has to be put into not dying.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When most people look at places to live, they look at
>>>>>>>> things like the schools, shopping, recreation, local
>>>>>>>> taxes, the crime rate; heavy duty airlocks aren't usually
>>>>>>>> on the list. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The one-way trip to Mars project drew 200,000 volunteers.
>>>>>>> There's no lack of people willing to try any new,
>>>>>>> different, exotic, *exciting* way of life.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That is 0.0027% of the population, so it obviously isn't
>>>>>> that popular. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's 200,000 people. There aren't 200,000 people living 
>>>>> underwater, nor is anyone proposing there will be, ever.
>>>> 
>>>> As the idea is silly from the start, what else would you
>>>> expect? 
>>> 
>>> You are, indeed, silly.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Of those 200,000, how many actually understand what life
>>>>>> would be like, what the dangers are and that it would NOT be
>>>>>> like Star Trek? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I expect more of them understand the risks than you
>>>>> understand living underwater. Or the difference between your
>>>>> ass and a hole in the ground.
>>>> 
>>>> I understand that everything needed to live underwater can be
>>>> had off the shelf, that doing so would be very expensive, and
>>>> that it would be a giant pain in the ass to get groceries.
>>>> 
>>>> What else would one need to know?
>>>> 
>>> That you're full of shit. But everybody other than you knows
>>> that already.
>>  
>> Yet more arm waving and insults.
> 
> I know you are, but what am I?
>> 
>> What did I just say that is untrue?
>> 
> Who cares?
 
Apparently you.

So exactly what did I just say that is untrue?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599770

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-06 17:31 -0500
Message-ID<9f6dneVMnt44TWvKnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#599723
On 2016-10-06, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> If it were easy, Discovery Channel would have a reality show with D 
> list actors in a dance contest at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

SUB,
SCIRBE!!1!

Dave, yes, we have no Marianas - we have no Marianas to-day!
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
website on VIC is down,	probably for good - oh well/ I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#599776

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-06 16:14 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA699A54CAB92Ataustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#599770
David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:9f6dneVMnt44TWvKnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@earthlink.com: 

> On 2016-10-06, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> If it were easy, Discovery Channel would have a reality show
>> with D list actors in a dance contest at the bottom of the
>> Marianas Trench. 
> 
> SUB,
> SCIRBE!!1!

I'll admit it would be more intereseting than 99% of what's being 
made today. Reality television is always better with sea monsters.
> 
> Dave, yes, we have no Marianas - we have no Marianas to-day!



-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#599783

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-06 18:48 -0500
Message-ID<nt6nso$1hhj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599776
On 10/6/2016 6:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:9f6dneVMnt44TWvKnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>
>> On 2016-10-06, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If it were easy, Discovery Channel would have a reality show
>>> with D list actors in a dance contest at the bottom of the
>>> Marianas Trench.
>>
>> SUB,
>> SCIRBE!!1!
>
> I'll admit it would be more intereseting than 99% of what's being
> made today. Reality television is always better with sea monsters.

Trump, for sure

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#599784

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-06 16:53 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA699ABCA18C27taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#599783
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:nt6nso$1hhj$1
@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 10/6/2016 6:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
>> news:9f6dneVMnt44TWvKnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>
>>> On 2016-10-06, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If it were easy, Discovery Channel would have a reality show
>>>> with D list actors in a dance contest at the bottom of the
>>>> Marianas Trench.
>>>
>>> SUB,
>>> SCIRBE!!1!
>>
>> I'll admit it would be more intereseting than 99% of what's being
>> made today. Reality television is always better with sea monsters.
> 
> Trump, for sure
> 
I think I'll need a little more context than that. Trump is more 
interesting than 99% of the television being made today? Trump is a 
sea monster? Reality television is better with Trump? Trump a laser 
on his frickn' head? Sea monsters are trump cards in reality 
television? Seriously, dude, context.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#599872

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-07 12:04 -0500
Message-ID<nt8kij$rj9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599784
On 10/6/2016 6:53 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:nt6nso$1hhj$1
> @gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 10/6/2016 6:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:9f6dneVMnt44TWvKnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>
>>>> On 2016-10-06, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> If it were easy, Discovery Channel would have a reality show
>>>>> with D list actors in a dance contest at the bottom of the
>>>>> Marianas Trench.
>>>>
>>>> SUB,
>>>> SCIRBE!!1!
>>>
>>> I'll admit it would be more intereseting than 99% of what's being
>>> made today. Reality television is always better with sea monsters.
>>
>> Trump, for sure
>>
> I think I'll need a little more context than that. Trump is more
> interesting than 99% of the television being made today? Trump is a
> sea monster? Reality television is better with Trump? Trump a laser
> on his frickn' head? Sea monsters are trump cards in reality
> television? Seriously, dude, context.
>

I thought lack of context is OK with Trump, the guy is unhinged, lacks 
context himself.  Reality TV, monster, sort of apply, (like Trump, sort 
of applies)  but not interesting =>  insulting, the kind of boss you 
would like to kick in the nuts.  Hillary too.

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#599876

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-07 10:15 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA69A6855796F5taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#599872
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
news:nt8kij$rj9$1@gioia.aioe.org: 

> On 10/6/2016 6:53 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:nt6nso$1hhj$1
>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> On 10/6/2016 6:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>>> news:9f6dneVMnt44TWvKnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-10-06, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> If it were easy, Discovery Channel would have a reality
>>>>>> show with D list actors in a dance contest at the bottom of
>>>>>> the Marianas Trench.
>>>>>
>>>>> SUB,
>>>>> SCIRBE!!1!
>>>>
>>>> I'll admit it would be more intereseting than 99% of what's
>>>> being made today. Reality television is always better with
>>>> sea monsters. 
>>>
>>> Trump, for sure
>>>
>> I think I'll need a little more context than that. Trump is
>> more interesting than 99% of the television being made today?
>> Trump is a sea monster? Reality television is better with
>> Trump? Trump a laser on his frickn' head? Sea monsters are
>> trump cards in reality television? Seriously, dude, context.
>>
> 
> I thought lack of context is OK with Trump, the guy is unhinged,
> lacks context himself.  Reality TV, monster, sort of apply,
> (like Trump, sort of applies)  but not interesting => 
> insulting, the kind of boss you would like to kick in the nuts. 
> Hillary too. 
> 
Sill not enough context, but I would agree that the differences 
between the two are on the same order of importance as the 
difference between red and green cyanide laced Kool-Aid. Sure, the 
food coloring gives it a little different taste, but it'll still 
kill you.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#599896

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-07 14:37 -0500
Message-ID<nt8thd$1dh8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599876
On 10/7/2016 12:15 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
> news:nt8kij$rj9$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 10/6/2016 6:53 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:nt6nso$1hhj$1
>>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> On 10/6/2016 6:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>>> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:9f6dneVMnt44TWvKnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-10-06, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> If it were easy, Discovery Channel would have a reality
>>>>>>> show with D list actors in a dance contest at the bottom of
>>>>>>> the Marianas Trench.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SUB,
>>>>>> SCIRBE!!1!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll admit it would be more intereseting than 99% of what's
>>>>> being made today. Reality television is always better with
>>>>> sea monsters.

>>>> Trump, for sure
>>>>
>>> I think I'll need a little more context than that. Trump is
>>> more interesting than 99% of the television being made today?
>>> Trump is a sea monster? Reality television is better with
>>> Trump? Trump a laser on his frickn' head? Sea monsters are
>>> trump cards in reality television? Seriously, dude, context.

>>
>> I thought lack of context is OK with Trump, the guy is unhinged,
>> lacks context himself.  Reality TV, monster, sort of apply,
>> (like Trump, sort of applies)  but not interesting =>
>> insulting, the kind of boss you would like to kick in the nuts.
>> Hillary too.

> Sill not enough context, but I would agree that the differences
> between the two are on the same order of importance as the
> difference between red and green cyanide laced Kool-Aid. Sure, the
> food coloring gives it a little different taste, but it'll still
> kill you.
>

I gave you enough context,
you just cant connect the words together,
  you think just like Hillary,
"stop start stop start stuck pause", in jags, and jogs
she has short noodles in her skull.
try a coin, heads or tails,
Clinton on one side Donald on the other,
either way you lose.

No context needed for either. Donald is scrambled mess, Hillary is 
scrambled mess with holes in brain, them two only good for Soylent 
Green, thats all.



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#599907

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-07 13:14 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA69A86BB517E0taustingmail@69.16.179.43>
In reply to#599896
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
news:nt8thd$1dh8$1@gioia.aioe.org: 

> On 10/7/2016 12:15 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
>> news:nt8kij$rj9$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> On 10/6/2016 6:53 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:nt6nso$1hhj$1
>>>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/6/2016 6:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>>>> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:9f6dneVMnt44TWvKnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-06, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
>>>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> If it were easy, Discovery Channel would have a reality
>>>>>>>> show with D list actors in a dance contest at the bottom
>>>>>>>> of the Marianas Trench.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SUB,
>>>>>>> SCIRBE!!1!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll admit it would be more intereseting than 99% of what's
>>>>>> being made today. Reality television is always better with
>>>>>> sea monsters.
> 
>>>>> Trump, for sure
>>>>>
>>>> I think I'll need a little more context than that. Trump is
>>>> more interesting than 99% of the television being made today?
>>>> Trump is a sea monster? Reality television is better with
>>>> Trump? Trump a laser on his frickn' head? Sea monsters are
>>>> trump cards in reality television? Seriously, dude, context.
> 
>>>
>>> I thought lack of context is OK with Trump, the guy is
>>> unhinged, lacks context himself.  Reality TV, monster, sort of
>>> apply, (like Trump, sort of applies)  but not interesting =>
>>> insulting, the kind of boss you would like to kick in the
>>> nuts. Hillary too.
> 
>> Sill not enough context, but I would agree that the differences
>> between the two are on the same order of importance as the
>> difference between red and green cyanide laced Kool-Aid. Sure,
>> the food coloring gives it a little different taste, but it'll
>> still kill you.
>>
> 
> I gave you enough context,

No, you really didn't.

> you just cant connect the words together,
>   you think just like Hillary,
> "stop start stop start stuck pause", in jags, and jogs
> she has short noodles in her skull.
> try a coin, heads or tails,
> Clinton on one side Donald on the other,
> either way you lose.
> 
> No context needed for either. Donald is scrambled mess, Hillary
> is scrambled mess with holes in brain, them two only good for
> Soylent Green, thats all.
> 
You failed third grade English, didn't you? In addition to lack of
conext, your writing is nearly incomprehensible. 

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#599936

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-07 17:30 -0500
Message-ID<nt97mg$9p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599907
On 10/7/2016 3:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in

>> I gave you enough context,
>
> No, you really didn't.
>
>> you just cant connect the words together,
>>   you think just like Hillary,
>> "stop start stop start stuck pause", in jags, and jogs
>> she has short noodles in her skull.
>> try a coin, heads or tails,
>> Clinton on one side Donald on the other,
>> either way you lose.
>>
>> No context needed for either. Donald is scrambled mess, Hillary
>> is scrambled mess with holes in brain, them two only good for
>> Soylent Green, thats all.
>>
> You failed third grade English, didn't you? In addition to lack of
> conext, your writing is nearly incomprehensible.
>

you Engrlish Teacher, pupa ?   one with sufficient intelligence can 
assemble meaning from few well chosen words.  we tells you no gottum 
sufficient intelligence,  you spoon-feeder,  you have-um must spell out 
the WHOLE enchilada and plate, or you remain clueless sluggie.


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#599939

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-07 15:45 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA69AA0437EAFAtaustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#599936
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
news:nt97mg$9p$1@gioia.aioe.org: 

> On 10/7/2016 3:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
> 
>>> I gave you enough context,
>>
>> No, you really didn't.
>>
>>> you just cant connect the words together,
>>>   you think just like Hillary,
>>> "stop start stop start stuck pause", in jags, and jogs
>>> she has short noodles in her skull.
>>> try a coin, heads or tails,
>>> Clinton on one side Donald on the other,
>>> either way you lose.
>>>
>>> No context needed for either. Donald is scrambled mess,
>>> Hillary is scrambled mess with holes in brain, them two only
>>> good for Soylent Green, thats all.
>>>
>> You failed third grade English, didn't you? In addition to lack
>> of conext, your writing is nearly incomprehensible.
>>
> 
> you Engrlish Teacher, pupa ?   one with sufficient intelligence
> can assemble meaning from few well chosen words.  we tells you
> no gottum sufficient intelligence,  you spoon-feeder,  you
> have-um must spell out the WHOLE enchilada and plate, or you
> remain clueless sluggie. 

QED. Incoherent. If you can't be bothered to use common English to 
communicate effectively, I can't be bothered to give a flying fuck 
at a rolling donut what you're babbling about.

Plus, it's pretty clear *you* have no idea what you're babbling 
about, either.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#599964

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-07 22:22 -0500
Message-ID<nt9oqt$l9o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599939
On 10/7/2016 5:45 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
> news:nt97mg$9p$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 10/7/2016 3:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in

>> have-um must spell out the WHOLE enchilada and plate, or you
>> remain clueless sluggie.
>
> QED. Incoherent. If you can't be bothered to use common English to
> communicate effectively, I can't be bothered to give a flying fuck
> at a rolling donut what you're babbling about.
>

you way off topic, which is what you do when you have nothing to 
contribute, as usual.

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#599966

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-07 21:25 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA69AD9FEBA084taustingmail@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#599964
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:nt9oqt$l9o$1
@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 10/7/2016 5:45 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
>> news:nt97mg$9p$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> On 10/7/2016 3:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
> 
>>> have-um must spell out the WHOLE enchilada and plate, or you
>>> remain clueless sluggie.
>>
>> QED. Incoherent. If you can't be bothered to use common English to
>> communicate effectively, I can't be bothered to give a flying fuck
>> at a rolling donut what you're babbling about.
>>
> 
> you way off topic, which is what you do when you have nothing to 
> contribute, as usual.
> 
I know you are, but what am I?

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#599985

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-08 13:43 -0500
Message-ID<ntbeo5$15bj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599966
On 10/7/2016 11:25 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:nt9oqt$l9o$1
> @gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 10/7/2016 5:45 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
>>> news:nt97mg$9p$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> On 10/7/2016 3:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
>>
>>>> have-um must spell out the WHOLE enchilada and plate, or you
>>>> remain clueless sluggie.

>>> QED. Incoherent. If you can't be bothered to use common English to
>>> communicate effectively, I can't be bothered to give a flying fuck
>>> at a rolling donut what you're babbling about.
>>>
>>
>> you way off topic, which is what you do when you have nothing to
>> contribute, as usual.
>>
> I know you are, but what am I?
>

you'er "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy", does that help things for you?

try taking notes with pen and paper, when you read this newsgroup, that 
way you wont get so easily lost.

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#599967

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-07 22:01 -0700
Message-ID<57F87DB4.42D7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#599964
Serigo wrote:
> 
> On 10/7/2016 5:45 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
> > news:nt97mg$9p$1@gioia.aioe.org:
> >
> >> On 10/7/2016 3:14 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> >>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in
> 
> >> have-um must spell out the WHOLE enchilada and plate, or you
> >> remain clueless sluggie.
> >
> > QED. Incoherent. If you can't be bothered to use common English to
> > communicate effectively, I can't be bothered to give a flying fuck
> > at a rolling donut what you're babbling about.
> >
> 
> you way off topic, which is what you do when you have nothing to
> contribute, as usual.


i gave his mother ten cents.

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