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1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
Last post2016-10-05 13:25 -0500
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  1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 19:50 -0500
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 20:43 -0500
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:16 -0500
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 21:22 -0500
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-30 22:47 -0500
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-10-01 13:48 +0000
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 15:27 +0100
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:53 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-10-01 21:53 +0100
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:06 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 13:31 -0700
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-01 15:03 -0700
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-02 14:54 -0700
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-02 00:18 -0400
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 09:31 -0500
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 09:57 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 08:11 -0700
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 18:03 +0000
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:47 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:10 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 21:15 +0000
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 16:21 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:12 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 17:28 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 22:51 +0000
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:26 -0500
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 05:32 +0000
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 13:59 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:20 -0700
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:11 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:27 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:26 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:12 +0000
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:16 -0400
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 22:28 +0000
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-02 02:18 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:47 -0400
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 19:44 -0400
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:50 +0000
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:29 -0700
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:15 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 10:47 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 14:40 -0500
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:24 +0000
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 20:43 -0500
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-02 23:17 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:48 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-03 11:57 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:37 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:17 -0500
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 22:30 +0000
                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 20:17 -0500
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-02 20:48 -0500
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 21:10 -0500
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 05:14 +0000
                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-03 14:45 -0500
                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 00:12 +0000
                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 12:32 -0500
                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 18:41 +0000
                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-04 14:59 -0400
                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 19:44 +0000
                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 16:04 -0400
                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-04 21:45 +0000
                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 22:12 +0000
                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 16:13 -0700
                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 00:06 +0000
                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 19:39 -0700
                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:06 +0000
                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 23:07 -0500
                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:24 +0000
                                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:28 -0500
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-05 19:55 -0700
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:29 +0000
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 08:01 -0500
                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:29 +0000
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 04:19 +0000
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-06 18:02 +0000
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:30 +0000
                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-08 00:38 +1100
                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 21:51 +0000
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-10-07 00:33 +0200
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 11:28 -0700
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 12:00 -0700
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:46 +0000
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                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 20:29 +0000
                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:40 -0700
                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 20:58 +0000
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                                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 04:54 +0000
                                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 22:11 -0700
                                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-06 23:10 -0700
                                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 09:15 -0700
                                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-07 10:12 -0700
                                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:15 -0700
                                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 14:29 -0500
                                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-08 01:32 -0400
                                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 21:55 +0000
                                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:43 -0700
                                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 22:55 +0000
                                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 16:23 -0700
                                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 01:47 +0000
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                                                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 05:34 +0000
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 17:31 -0500
                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 18:48 -0500
                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 12:04 -0500
                                                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:15 -0700
                                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 14:37 -0500
                                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 17:30 -0500
                                                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:45 -0700
                                                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 22:22 -0500
                                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:25 -0700
                                                                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-08 13:43 -0500
                                                                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-07 22:01 -0700
                                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-06 20:42 -0400
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-06 06:53 +0000
                                                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 07:58 -0500
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 08:08 -0500
                                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 18:38 +0000
                                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 15:56 -0700
                                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 00:14 +0000
                                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-04 19:39 -0700
                                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 05:25 +0000
                            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 11:00 -0700
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:20 -0500
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 22:07 -0500
                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 13:45 -0700
                                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-06 21:13 +0000
                                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 21:22 -0500
                                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-07 04:59 +0000
                                          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 12:17 -0500
                              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-04 00:26 +0000
                                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 17:35 -0700
                                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 21:12 -0500
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-02 22:32 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-03 05:15 +0000
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 17:23 -0500
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-08 12:20 -0700
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 05:30 +0000
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 09:35 -0500
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:17 +0300
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 18:12 +0000
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-02 01:17 +0300
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 19:08 -0400
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 00:11 +0000
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:50 -0400
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:26 +0000
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 20:47 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 00:09 +0000
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-02 22:06 +0300
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:54 -0400
                      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 23:40 +0000
                        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 08:29 -0500
                  Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 20:46 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 21:27 -0500
                    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:56 -0400
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-01 18:07 +0000
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 19:24 -0700
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 11:38 -0700
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 11:53 -0700
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-01 15:20 -0500
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 12:00 -0700
    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-10-02 09:02 -0400
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:26 -0400
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 16:56 +0000
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-10-02 19:53 -0400
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 08:30 -0500
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 13:41 +0000
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "Peter Bender" <pbender@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-04 07:00 +0200
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-04 10:25 -0500
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:34 -0700
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:29 -0500
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-03 13:41 -0700
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-05 17:37 +0200
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-05 11:20 -0700
                Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-05 14:11 -0500
          lift-off noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 20:08 -0700
            Re: lift-off Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 08:32 -0500
              Re: lift-off edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 11:07 -0700
                Re: lift-off rbrteline@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 12:45 -0700
                Re: lift-off Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 17:31 -0500
                  Re: lift-off edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 13:41 -0700
                    Re: lift-off Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-06 21:40 -0500
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-05 17:36 +0200
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 10:41 -0700
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-05 13:25 -0500

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#599101

FromCryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-01 21:27 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA694E46FEE1FDmelchizedek@216.166.97.131>
In reply to#599099
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:nspot8$rmn$2@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 10/1/2016 5:17 PM, Juho Julkunen wrote:
>> In article <7ta5cd-ctl.ln1@mail.specsol.com>,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com says...
>>>
>>> In sci.physics Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <XnsA6946BC9E98CAmelchizedek@216.166.97.131>,
>>>> treifamily@gmail.com says...
> 
>>>>>
>>>>> Musk thinks that about a million people are the minimum needed to
>>>>> create a self-sustaining colony. I'm a bit sceptical of that - the
>>>>> variety of skills and machinery that keeps first-world culture
>>>>> going is mindboggling.
>>>>
>>>> They wouldn't need the entire breadth of that, though. Colony laser
>>>> focused on the parts that are needed to sustain it on Mars might
>>>> get away with less.
> 
>>> Yes, there are some finished goods manufacturing you wouldn't need
>>> on Mars such as boat builders and bicycle makers, but you need just
>>> about all of the material stock and piece makers, i.e. wire,
>>> insulation, electronic parts, PC boards, metal stock, screws, nuts,
>>> bolts, etc. 
>>
>> Some stuff on that list can be delivered by a village. Integrated
>> circuits not so much, but I'm not sure a colony couldn't get by with
>> a more rudimentary computing technology.
> 
>> We would have to rebuild the know-how for it. Maybe invent a new
>> field of easily supportable technology.
>>
>> Then again, if they don't have a considerable logistics support in
>> place on Earth, shipping a million colonists to Mars shouldn't even
>> be on the table.
>>
> 
> they could be the "excess people" on earth,
> why should prizoners be doomed to watching TV 24/7 on earth when they 
> can help colonize Mars ?
> 
> Colony Mars needs a Leader, either Hillary or Trump.
> 

That's for the 'B Ark'.

pt

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#599155

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-02 16:56 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.325b3e6470ae58df98a5d8@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#599099
In article <nspot8$rmn$2@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
> 
> On 10/1/2016 5:17 PM, Juho Julkunen wrote:
> > In article <7ta5cd-ctl.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> In sci.physics Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> In article <XnsA6946BC9E98CAmelchizedek@216.166.97.131>,
> >>> treifamily@gmail.com says...
> 
> >>>>
> >>>> Musk thinks that about a million people are the minimum needed to
> >>>> create a self-sustaining colony. I'm a bit sceptical of that - the
> >>>> variety of skills and machinery that keeps first-world culture going
> >>>> is mindboggling.
> >>>
> >>> They wouldn't need the entire breadth of that, though. Colony laser
> >>> focused on the parts that are needed to sustain it on Mars might get
> >>> away with less.
> 
> >> Yes, there are some finished goods manufacturing you wouldn't need on
> >> Mars such as boat builders and bicycle makers, but you need just about
> >> all of the material stock and piece makers, i.e. wire, insulation, electronic
> >> parts, PC boards, metal stock, screws, nuts, bolts, etc.
> >
> > Some stuff on that list can be delivered by a village. Integrated
> > circuits not so much, but I'm not sure a colony couldn't get by with a
> > more rudimentary computing technology.
> 
> > We would have to rebuild the know-how for it. Maybe invent a new field
> > of easily supportable technology.
> >
> > Then again, if they don't have a considerable logistics support in
> > place on Earth, shipping a million colonists to Mars shouldn't even be
> > on the table.
> >
> 
> they could be the "excess people" on earth,
> why should prizoners be doomed to watching TV 24/7 on earth when they 
> can help colonize Mars ?
> 
> Colony Mars needs a Leader, either Hillary or Trump.

So how many "excess people" have skills that would be useful on Mars?

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#599055

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-01 18:07 +0000
Message-ID<fja5cd-ctl.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599040
In sci.physics Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in news:g8u3cd-nu9.ln1@mail.specsol.com:

<snip>
 
>> Yep, all it takes is a continuous supply of technology, spare parts,
>> food, and water.
> 
> Given that you send the right tech, getting water growing food locally
> should be possible. 
> 
> Musk thinks that about a million people are the minimum needed to
> create a self-sustaining colony. I'm a bit sceptical of that - the
> variety of skills and machinery that keeps first-world culture going
> is mindboggling. 

Exactly the point, expecially when you concider there are zero readily
available resources needed to survive.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599015

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-30 19:24 -0700
Message-ID<57EF1E4C.2CA6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#599004
Serigo wrote:
> 
> On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
> > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
> >
> 
> no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars.


you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the
odds on that????


then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds
on that????



Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint

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#599058

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-01 11:38 -0700
Message-ID<57F0029A.6DCE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#599015
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Serigo wrote:
> >
> > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
> > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
> > >
> >
> > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars.
> 
> you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the
> odds on that????
> 
> then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds
> on that????
> 
> Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint



So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct?




I mean, if you ask Elon Musk "Would you go on the first flight to Mars?" He would probably say..


"ARE YOU FUCKIN NUTS! DO YOU THINK I'M FUCKING STUPID!!!"


"I'M NOT FUCKIN PREPARED TO DIE!!!!"

.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/51-l/docs/rogers-commission/Appendix-F.txt

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#599059

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-01 11:53 -0700
Message-ID<57F00640.6617@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#599058
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Serigo wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
> > > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
> > > >
> > >
> > > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars.
> >
> > you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the
> > odds on that????
> >
> > then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds
> > on that????
> >
> > Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint
> 
> So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct?


and no fat people

and bring your own snacks..



and since by now most of yous believe every planet has an underground/subsurface/underneath/underthere/lookunder

an underground ocean..

that means just dig a hole
and live underground..there is plenty of oxygen
there from the ocean's plants.


...thata means any aliens from outer space would have to
be stupid too.

First thing they'll ask, "How do you taste?"

I'll tell them, "Go to China, you'll like Chineese food."

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#599066

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-01 15:20 -0500
Message-ID<nsp5rf$4iu$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599059
On 10/1/2016 1:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> Serigo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
>>>>> http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars.
>>>
>>> you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the
>>> odds on that????
>>>
>>> then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds
>>> on that????
>>>
>>> Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint
>>
>> So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct?
>
>
> and no fat people
>
> and bring your own snacks..
>
>
>
> and since by now most of yous believe every planet has an underground/subsurface/underneath/underthere/lookunder
>
> an underground ocean..
>
> that means just dig a hole
> and live underground..there is plenty of oxygen
> there from the ocean's plants.
>

Transporting anything to the space station is extremely 
expensive—launching a SpaceX rocket into orbit costs more than $1800 per 
pound. And you know what’s really heavy? Water.

to Mars it is $180,000 per pound

When astronauts travel into space, NASA scientists determine how much 
food will be needed for each mission. For example, an astronaut on the 
ISS uses about 1.83 pounds (0.83 kilograms) of food per meal each day. 
About 0.27 pounds (0.12 kilograms) of this weight is packaging material. 
Longer-duration missions will require much more food.

Space Shuttle food tray
Image above: A space shuttle food tray. Credit: NASA

A trip to Mars and back, for instance, may take more than three years 
and require the provision of thousands of kilograms of food. A crew of 
four on a three-year martian mission eating only three meals each day 
would need to carry more than 24,000 pounds (10,886 kilograms) of food.

cost for food launch to Mars is $4,320,000,000  NO toilet paper.

What Rocket can carry 24,000 pounds to mars ???

Today, the types of foods available include rehydratable, 
temperature-stabilized, irradiated and natural-form foods. Most foods 
are ready to eat simply by adding water or by heating. All food is 
precooked and processed so it requires no refrigeration. The only 
exceptions are fresh fruits and vegetables.

No refrigeration is available on the space shuttle so fresh foods must 
be eaten within the first few days of flight or they will spoil. Food 
for the ISS is similar to that on the space shuttle except that fewer 
foods require rehydration because of the limited amount of water 
available on the station.

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#599061

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-01 12:00 -0700
Message-ID<57F007EB.7031@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#599058
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Serigo wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
> > > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
> > > >
> > >
> > > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars.
> >
> > you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the
> > odds on that????
> >
> > then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds
> > on that????
> >
> > Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint
> 
> So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct?
> 
> I mean, if you ask Elon Musk "Would you go on the first flight to Mars?" He would probably say..
> 
> "ARE YOU FUCKIN NUTS! DO YOU THINK I'M FUCKING STUPID!!!"
> 
> "I'M NOT FUCKIN PREPARED TO DIE!!!!"
> 
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/51-l/docs/rogers-commission/Appendix-F.txt



What I don't understand is
how can people want to go
to Mars after seeing the rocket
blow up before it even gets off the ground? 

If American Airlines planes would blow up all the time, would you book a
flight on AA????



I don't get it?


i must be missing something...

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#599122

FromSteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net>
Date2016-10-02 09:02 -0400
Message-ID<mq02vblom4hti99qkblhv09rkcearjqlqg@4ax.com>
In reply to#598993
Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or
even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too
impractical. You need something as big as the statue of liberty just
to get a few pounds to and back from the Moon. If something much
better is discovered or developed, then maybe. Get real guys !

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#599123

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-02 11:26 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.325af1245349933c98a5d2@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#599122
In article <mq02vblom4hti99qkblhv09rkcearjqlqg@4ax.com>, 
casagiannoni@optonline.net says...
> 
> Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or
> even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too
> impractical. You need something as big as the statue of liberty just
> to get a few pounds to and back from the Moon. If something much
> better is discovered or developed, then maybe. Get real guys !

So you need something as big as that statue of liberty, so what?  As 
ocean liners go that would be a very tiny one.

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#599127

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-02 16:56 +0000
Message-ID<arq7cd-pa1.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#599123
In sci.physics J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <mq02vblom4hti99qkblhv09rkcearjqlqg@4ax.com>, 
> casagiannoni@optonline.net says...
>> 
>> Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or
>> even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too
>> impractical. You need something as big as the statue of liberty just
>> to get a few pounds to and back from the Moon. If something much
>> better is discovered or developed, then maybe. Get real guys !
> 
> So you need something as big as that statue of liberty, so what?  As 
> ocean liners go that would be a very tiny one.

You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
you build the infrastructure.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#599172

FromSteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net>
Date2016-10-02 19:53 -0400
Message-ID<pb73vbhhqpqjvevbme7jc6d2kg2b89s3d2@4ax.com>
In reply to#599127
>
>You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
>needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
>you build the infrastructure.
>
Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.

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#599229

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-03 08:30 -0500
Message-ID<nstmi3$g9m$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599172
On 10/2/2016 6:53 PM, SteveGG wrote:
>>
>> You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
>> needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
>> you build the infrastructure.
>>
> Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.
>

next we will be hearing about building the Space Elevator, sigh.

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#599231

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2016-10-03 13:41 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnv4nvu.1c0.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#599229
Serigo wrote:

----snip----

> next we will be hearing about building the Space Elevator, sigh.

Wot? Wot? It's not gonna happen?

But Arthur Clarke said .., ,,,

<whimoer>

Ned

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#599354

From"Peter Bender" <pbender@yahoo.com>
Date2016-10-04 07:00 +0200
Message-ID<024988a122fe958af90627200e17794d@dizum.com>
In reply to#599229
In article <nstmi3$g9m$3@gioia.aioe.org>
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/2/2016 6:53 PM, SteveGG wrote:
> >>
> >> You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
> >> needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
> >> you build the infrastructure.
> >>
> > Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.
> >
>
> next we will be hearing about building the Space Elevator, sigh.

I'd like to hear about candidates to send to Mars.

We could start with negroes, homosexuals, "transgenders" and 
liberal democrats.  Assign Barack Obama as the pilot, first 
negro to Mars.

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#599389

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-04 10:25 -0500
Message-ID<nt0hks$1920$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599354
On 10/4/2016 12:00 AM, Peter Bender wrote:
> In article <nstmi3$g9m$3@gioia.aioe.org>
> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/2/2016 6:53 PM, SteveGG wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
>>>> needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
>>>> you build the infrastructure.
>>>>
>>> Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.
>>>
>>
>> next we will be hearing about building the Space Elevator, sigh.
>
> I'd like to hear about candidates to send to Mars.
>
> We could start with negroes, homosexuals, "transgenders" and
> liberal democrats.  Assign Barack Obama as the pilot, first
> negro to Mars.
>

the problem there is that the people would have to put labels on 
themselves to fit in those catagory.   A dictator could label them, but 
if done by themselves it avoids the "racist" "sexist", "bigotry" attacks.

you could screen via their names, for race labels, as the WSJ artical 
says Facebook does.

OR use their drivers license, most have race on it, New York requires 
sexual orentation on their DL,  beginning in 2017 for the Obama imposed 
transgendered bathroom checks, their are 7.5 catagories approved by EPA.

if you offered "free drugs on Mars, free trip too" you will pick up a 
lot of voulenteers.  Colorado is using "Mexican Medicine" carrot to 
attract more of the stoner crowd to their state.

this is THE CHANCE for Liberal Democrats to establish their own 
non-contamminated Utopia on Mars, they all need to go there and 
construct their future world by themselves, Hillary, Palosie, Kerry, 
Obumma, all of them, their wives and husbands, and childrens, all aboard 
the Mars express and save that planet, no global warming there!

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#599247

Fromedprochak@gmail.com
Date2016-10-03 10:34 -0700
Message-ID<4bc7e6b1-e944-4092-b46f-0937de85074c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599172
On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 7:53:09 PM UTC-4, SteveGG wrote:
> >
> >You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
> >needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
> >you build the infrastructure.
> >
> Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.

Musk has done the calculations to show that it CAN be done.

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#599325

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-10-03 17:29 -0500
Message-ID<nsum54$eo4$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#599247
On 10/3/2016 12:34 PM, edprochak@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 7:53:09 PM UTC-4, SteveGG wrote:
>>>
>>> You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
>>> needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
>>> you build the infrastructure.
>>>
>> Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.
>
> Musk has done the calculations to show that it CAN be done.
>

no,

Musk presented a *Marketing story* to congress to get Funding for R&D to 
support another one of his companies, just like Gov $$$ float Tesla and 
SolarCity

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#599304

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-03 13:41 -0700
Message-ID<57F2C279.5B6F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#599172
SteveGG wrote:
> 
> >
> >You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
> >needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
> >you build the infrastructure.
> >
> Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.


The problem is...
NASA doesn't know how to make
flying space vehicles to Mars.

You're suppose to fly horizontal, not
vertical.


and land horizontal, not vertical.


As you see in this video..
you land horizontal and take off horzontal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igMNkaxdCc4



you might have to swing back and forth like
an ant to get where you're going...


Why don't I just blow up the planet and
start from the beggining? You earthlings are hopeless...

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#599530

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2016-10-05 17:37 +0200
Message-ID<2001791.ElGaqSPkdT@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#599172
SteveGG wrote:

>> You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
>> needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
>> you build the infrastructure.
>
> Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.

Like I said, you are wrong, and repeating nonsense does not make it true.

F'up2 sci.space.tech

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