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Atheism is Witchcraft

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First post2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
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  Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
    Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 14:02 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-11 16:16 -0600
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Normal Human <NH@....> - 2016-09-12 08:01 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 15:24 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-11 16:28 -0600
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 16:49 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:26 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-16 18:57 -0500
              Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-16 22:06 -0600
                "Wisely Non-Theist" "Billy_Ray_Ferrell_USA-VP_2016" <billyrferrell@minpin.mshome.net> - 2016-09-17 00:32 -0500
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:27 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:34 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:07 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:21 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:42 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 10:21 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 14:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 12:06 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 09:10 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-13 17:21 -0600
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:59 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 03:15 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 20:33 -0500
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:09 -0400
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:55 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 20:47 +1000
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-14 01:16 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:01 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 21:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:32 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-18 13:26 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 21:01 -0600
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:49 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 17:31 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:16 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 21:38 -0700
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-19 23:37 -0600
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 23:58 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:36 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 09:59 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:11 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:28 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:34 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 18:38 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:14 -0400
                                            Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-20 13:46 -0600
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 20:46 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 17:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 17:15 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 21:57 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 04:23 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:11 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 21:00 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 01:56 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:30 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 19:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:50 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:24 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:14 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 15:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-30 06:33 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:27 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:10 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:42 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:54 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 02:06 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 14:07 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 23:11 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-01 08:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-01 05:00 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 07:39 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 02:24 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 11:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 09:01 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 18:02 +0200
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 11:02 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:27 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 17:26 +0000
                                    Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 11:48 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 12:54 -0500
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 12:47 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 20:50 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:31 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:41 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:36 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:00 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:32 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 22:27 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-18 06:35 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-18 07:49 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:35 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 01:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:21 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 20:04 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 13:09 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:50 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 20:44 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 17:49 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 02:49 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:47 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 05:57 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:12 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:22 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 19:00 +0200
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 03:58 -0400

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#596863

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-09-14 09:10 +1000
Message-ID<nra10c$1n5t$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#596584
On 12/09/16 05:43, The Starmaker wrote:
> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.

A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either by 
misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence that it 
will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will one day 
be given a second chance at life.

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#596866

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-09-13 17:21 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-1C4B35.17213813092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#596863
On 12/09/16 05:43, The Starmaker wrote:
> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.

But there is no such thing as witchcraft, especially to atheists,
while there appears to be atheism to witches like Starmaker!

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#596877

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-13 19:59 -0400
Message-ID<57d892de$0$62266$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#596863
On 9/13/2016 7:10 PM, HGW wrote:
> On 12/09/16 05:43, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>
> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either by
> misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence that it
> will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will one day
> be given a second chance at life.

True. Especially deeply religious atheisst who are convinced that 
ethics, morality, honesty and anything but animal instinct is nothing 
but delusion. They keep hoping to meet a stronger animal that will kill 
them and end their miserable existence. Sad.

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#596887

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-14 03:15 +0200
Message-ID<e3rmmjFm0omU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#596877
Am 14.09.2016 01:59, schrieb benj:

>>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>>
>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either by
>> misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence that it
>> will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will one day
>> be given a second chance at life.
>
> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst who are convinced that
> ethics, morality, honesty and anything but animal instinct is nothing
> but delusion. They keep hoping to meet a stronger animal that will kill
> them and end their miserable existence. Sad.

The people, who do not believe in religion or supernatural beings are 
not called 'Atheists' but 'Agnostics'.

Atheism require believe, but also attempts to oppose divine authority. 
This could eventually lead to obscure rituals, which are an attempt to 
violate assumed laws as far as possible.

The agnostic would never ever do anything alike, since he bases its 
doings on the own understanding of ethics and moral, which he would like 
to keep as high as possible.

The occultists tries - on  the other hand - to find ways, by which he 
could eventually violate assumed laws. So he believes in divine laws and 
is in fact the greater believer than the agnostic.


TH

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#596890

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-09-13 20:33 -0500
Message-ID<6r9htb1oktvh8n00i8tcciupcbclarlg7t@4ax.com>
In reply to#596887
On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 03:15:56 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:

>Am 14.09.2016 01:59, schrieb benj:
>
>>>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>>>
>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either by
>>> misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence that it
>>> will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will one day
>>> be given a second chance at life.
>>
>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst who are convinced that
>> ethics, morality, honesty and anything but animal instinct is nothing
>> but delusion. They keep hoping to meet a stronger animal that will kill
>> them and end their miserable existence. Sad.
>
>The people, who do not believe in religion or supernatural beings are 
>not called 'Atheists' but 'Agnostics'.
>
>Atheism require believe, but also attempts to oppose divine authority. 
>This could eventually lead to obscure rituals, which are an attempt to 
>violate assumed laws as far as possible.

Go fuck yourself, arrogantly nasty, in-your-face liar.

You're not a mind-reader.

So what makes you "think" you know what it means to be atheist, better
than we atheists do ourselves?

>The agnostic would never ever do anything alike, since he bases its 
>doings on the own understanding of ethics and moral, which he would like 
>to keep as high as possible.

So why don't you, hypocrite, instead of making up bullshit about
atheists?

>The occultists tries - on  the other hand - to find ways, by which he 
>could eventually violate assumed laws. So he believes in divine laws and 
>is in fact the greater believer than the agnostic.

Yet another pig-ignorant, arrogantly stupid, nasty sociopath who can't
think outside the theist box, lies about atheists to our faces.

All because he is incapable of understanding that to those who don't
share them, the theists' gods are merely somebody else's religious
belief - not something that could or could not exist.

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#596895

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-13 22:09 -0400
Message-ID<57d8b175$0$1233$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#596887
On 9/13/2016 9:15 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 14.09.2016 01:59, schrieb benj:
>
>>>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>>>
>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either by
>>> misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence that it
>>> will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will one day
>>> be given a second chance at life.
>>
>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst who are convinced that
>> ethics, morality, honesty and anything but animal instinct is nothing
>> but delusion. They keep hoping to meet a stronger animal that will kill
>> them and end their miserable existence. Sad.
>
> The people, who do not believe in religion or supernatural beings are
> not called 'Atheists' but 'Agnostics'.
>
> Atheism require believe, but also attempts to oppose divine authority.
> This could eventually lead to obscure rituals, which are an attempt to
> violate assumed laws as far as possible.
>
> The agnostic would never ever do anything alike, since he bases its
> doings on the own understanding of ethics and moral, which he would like
> to keep as high as possible.
>
> The occultists tries - on  the other hand - to find ways, by which he
> could eventually violate assumed laws. So he believes in divine laws and
> is in fact the greater believer than the agnostic.

Atheists deny religion or supernatural beings. They do not believe in 
them. They believe they do not exist. Agnostics on the other hand try to 
have no opinion on these subjects. They are the original da da crowd. 
Such makes them less of a religion than atheists but nevertheless saying 
that one can't decide on anything is indeed still a system of belief and 
hence a kind of half-asses religion. Sort of like anarchists are kind of 
half-assed politicians.

However, this group (sci.physics) is about science. Science is not about 
belief. Science is about observations and evidence and measurements. 
Belief plays no role (unless you believe someone is faking data like say 
AGW "scientists") But Science is not agnosticism because the goal of 
science is to find out, not deny that anyone can know or decide.

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#596901

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-13 20:55 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-FEDB84.20551013092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#596887
In article <e3rmmjFm0omU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 14.09.2016 01:59, schrieb benj:
> 
> >>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
> >>
> >> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either by
> >> misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence that it
> >> will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will one day
> >> be given a second chance at life.
> >
> > True. Especially deeply religious atheisst who are convinced that
> > ethics, morality, honesty and anything but animal instinct is nothing
> > but delusion. They keep hoping to meet a stronger animal that will kill
> > them and end their miserable existence. Sad.
> 
> The people, who do not believe in religion or supernatural beings are 
> not called 'Atheists' but 'Agnostics'.

Wrong.


> Atheism require believe, but also attempts to oppose divine authority. 
> This could eventually lead to obscure rituals, which are an attempt to 
> violate assumed laws as far as possible.

Care to translate that word salad into English.


> The agnostic would never ever do anything alike, since he bases its 
> doings on the own understanding of ethics and moral, which he would like 
> to keep as high as possible.
> 
> The occultists tries - on  the other hand - to find ways, by which he 
> could eventually violate assumed laws. So he believes in divine laws and 
> is in fact the greater believer than the agnostic.

What the fuck do cultists have to do with atheism or agnosticism?

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#596919

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-09-14 20:47 +1000
Message-ID<nrb9sn$1kaj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#596901
On 14/09/16 13:55, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <e3rmmjFm0omU1@mid.individual.net>,

>>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst who are convinced that
>>> ethics, morality, honesty and anything but animal instinct is nothing
>>> but delusion. They keep hoping to meet a stronger animal that will kill
>>> them and end their miserable existence. Sad.
>>
>> The people, who do not believe in religion or supernatural beings are
>> not called 'Atheists' but 'Agnostics'.
>
> Wrong.

Thomas gets a little confused about English terminology sometimes. He 
considers the 'A' before Theist as meaning ANTITHEIST when it really 
means "Opposite of a theist" , the latter being a believer in that 
imaginary concept.

Thomas thinks an atheist is a person who accepts the existence of a 'god 
thing' but fights against whatever it is supposed to stand for...
He thinks that to oppose this god thing, one must first accept its 
existence, ie., believe in it...which would be logically correct if his 
definition of the word was valid.
Because Thomas is under the misguided impression that religion is a 
highly respectable and charitable movement rather than the sinister, 
male dominated haven for sadistic, sex, power and money hungry cheats, 
pedophiles and warmongers that history and current investigations reveal 
it to be, he thinks that anyone opposing it is naturally devoid of 
feeling and principle.

>> Atheism require believe, but also attempts to oppose divine authority.
>> This could eventually lead to obscure rituals, which are an attempt to
>> violate assumed laws as far as possible.
>
> Care to translate that word salad into English.

Thomas is very confused. That's why lives deep in remote cave somewhere 
in Europe.



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#596888

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-14 01:16 +0000
Message-ID<nra8d0$1v51$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#596877
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:59:14 -0400, benj wrote:

> On 9/13/2016 7:10 PM, HGW wrote:
>> On 12/09/16 05:43, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>>
>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either
>> by misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence
>> that it will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will
>> one day be given a second chance at life.
> 
> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst 

As rare as hirsute bald men.

<snip even more lies>

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#596894

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-13 22:01 -0400
Message-ID<57d8af6e$0$61807$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#596888
On 9/13/2016 9:16 PM, Smiler wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:59:14 -0400, benj wrote:
>
>> On 9/13/2016 7:10 PM, HGW wrote:
>>> On 12/09/16 05:43, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>>>
>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either
>>> by misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence
>>> that it will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will
>>> one day be given a second chance at life.
>>
>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst
>
> As rare as hirsute bald men.
>
> <snip even more lies>
>
Obviously we are in the presence of an atheist of great faith!

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#596897

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-09-13 21:12 -0500
Message-ID<qdchtblmmqk6avre1vk5g6hhp7cvj37t1f@4ax.com>
In reply to#596894
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 22:01:06 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:

>On 9/13/2016 9:16 PM, Smiler wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:59:14 -0400, benj wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/13/2016 7:10 PM, HGW wrote:
>>>> On 12/09/16 05:43, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>>>>
>>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either
>>>> by misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence
>>>> that it will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will
>>>> one day be given a second chance at life.
>>>
>>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst
>>
>> As rare as hirsute bald men.
>>
>> <snip even more lies>
>>
>Obviously we are in the presence of an atheist of great faith!

Obviously we are in the presence of a deliberately and arrogantly
nasty, lying theist.

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#596992

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-09-15 09:32 +1000
Message-ID<nrcmm5$evj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#596897
On 14/09/16 12:12, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 22:01:06 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>

>>>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either
>>>>> by misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence
>>>>> that it will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will
>>>>> one day be given a second chance at life.
>>>>
>>>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst
>>>
>>> As rare as hirsute bald men.
>>>
>>> <snip even more lies>
>>>
>> Obviously we are in the presence of an atheist of great faith!
>
> Obviously we are in the presence of a deliberately and arrogantly
> nasty, lying theist.

The main difference between a religious preacher and a used car salesman 
is that the latter's product actually exists, at least until the money 
has been paid.



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#596993

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-513863.17382714092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#596992
Atheists are the only ones who are free from witchcraft

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#597002

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
Message-ID<57da1643$0$30253$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#596993
On 09/14/2016 07:38 PM, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> Atheists are the only ones who are free from witchcraft
>
Obviously an atheist who does not understand the power of the mind.

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#597019

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-B31CE1.23154214092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597002
In article <57da1643$0$30253$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com>,
 benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 09/14/2016 07:38 PM, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > Atheists are the only ones who are free from witchcraft
> >
> Obviously an atheist who does not understand the power of the mind.

The mind power of atheists is not witchcraft!
Except in the eyes of witches!

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#597027

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
Message-ID<hmjktb5qje1j4m1l3msmdmo3hng4dviqe1@4ax.com>
In reply to#597002
On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 23:32:17 -0400, benj <nobody@gmail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<57da1643$0$30253$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> wrote:

>On 09/14/2016 07:38 PM, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
>> Atheists are the only ones who are free from witchcraft
>>
>Obviously an atheist who does not understand the power of the mind.

Elaborate.  What does that mean?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#597003

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
Message-ID<57da172e$0$61822$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#596992
On 09/14/2016 07:32 PM, HGW wrote:
> On 14/09/16 12:12, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 22:01:06 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>
>
>>>>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either
>>>>>> by misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence
>>>>>> that it will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> one day be given a second chance at life.
>>>>>
>>>>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst
>>>>
>>>> As rare as hirsute bald men.
>>>>
>>>> <snip even more lies>
>>>>
>>> Obviously we are in the presence of an atheist of great faith!
>>
>> Obviously we are in the presence of a deliberately and arrogantly
>> nasty, lying theist.
>
> The main difference between a religious preacher and a used car salesman
> is that the latter's product actually exists, at least until the money
> has been paid.

So you are saying that psychologists, psychiatrists,, analysts, lawyers, 
and "libs who give "needed" counseling" are all basically used care 
salesmen liars only they have no product to sell. You sound like some 
Lib due to your lack of thinking.

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#597025

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
Message-ID<e3uup5Ff2bcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#597003
Am 15.09.2016 05:36, schrieb benj:

>> The main difference between a religious preacher and a used car salesman
>> is that the latter's product actually exists, at least until the money
>> has been paid.
>
> So you are saying that psychologists, psychiatrists,, analysts, lawyers,
> and "libs who give "needed" counseling" are all basically used care
> salesmen liars only they have no product to sell. You sound like some
> Lib due to your lack of thinking.
>
>

Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not 
necessarily contain material objects.

This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.

Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact 
commercial, while a church is not.

Most religions are strictly non-commercial.

The mixture of commercial interests and believe was somehow a speciality 
of the medieval Catholic Church.

On the other end of the same scale we had Hinduist monks, who had to beg 
for food.

Most religions of today are more in the middle and collect some money, 
but mainly to maintain the life of the priests and to run the system of 
the church.




TH

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#597028

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
Message-ID<nrdkhf$1lme$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#597025
On 15/09/16 16:52, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 15.09.2016 05:36, schrieb benj:
>
>>> The main difference between a religious preacher and a used car salesman
>>> is that the latter's product actually exists, at least until the money
>>> has been paid.

> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
> necessarily contain material objects.
>
> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
>
> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
> commercial, while a church is not.
>
> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.

HAHAHHHAHHAHA! That's a joke, surely. They are all in it for the money 
and sex under the guise of respectability and honesty. The best way to 
lose your friends is to criticize a charity worker even if you know they 
are fiddling the till to buy their grog..

> The mixture of commercial interests and believe was somehow a speciality
> of the medieval Catholic Church.
>
> On the other end of the same scale we had Hinduist monks, who had to beg
> for food.
>
> Most religions of today are more in the middle and collect some money,
> but mainly to maintain the life of the priests and to run the system of
> the church.

Now that homosexuality is legal in many countries, the church is having 
a lot of trouble enlisting priests.

I wonder why...


> TH


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#597029

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-DBC024.02505215092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597025
In article <e3uup5Ff2bcU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 15.09.2016 05:36, schrieb benj:
> 
> >> The main difference between a religious preacher and a used car salesman
> >> is that the latter's product actually exists, at least until the money
> >> has been paid.
> >
> > So you are saying that psychologists, psychiatrists,, analysts, lawyers,
> > and "libs who give "needed" counseling" are all basically used care
> > salesmen liars only they have no product to sell. You sound like some
> > Lib due to your lack of thinking.
> >
> >
> 
> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not 
> necessarily contain material objects.
> 
> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
> 
> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact 
> commercial, while a church is not.
> 
> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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