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For third graders only

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-08-19 13:57 -0700
Last post2016-08-24 07:10 -0400
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  For third graders only The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-19 13:57 -0700
    Re: For third graders only Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-19 16:52 -0500
      Re: For third graders only The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-19 22:43 -0700
        Re: For third graders only Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-20 09:12 -0500
          Re: For third graders only The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-20 11:56 -0700
            Re: For third graders only Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-20 17:09 -0500
        Re: For third graders only The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-20 11:06 -0700
          Re: For third graders only The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-20 11:45 -0700
            Re: For third graders only Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-20 17:15 -0500
              Re: For third graders only Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-20 19:43 -0500
      Re: For third graders only "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-08-20 08:31 -0400
        Re: For third graders only "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-08-20 22:46 +0100
          Re: For third graders only "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-08-21 05:48 -0400
            Re: For third graders only "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-08-21 12:15 +0100
              Re: For third graders only "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-08-21 10:32 -0400
                Re: For third graders only "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-08-21 22:30 +0100
        Re: For third graders only Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-21 12:29 -0700
          Re: For third graders only The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-21 12:41 -0700
          Re: For third graders only Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-21 17:04 -0500
            Re: For third graders only "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-08-22 15:12 -0400
              Re: For third graders only "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 09:21 -0500
                Re: For third graders only "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-08-24 07:10 -0400

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#594312

From"Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-23 09:21 -0500
Message-ID<nphm4l$t9c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#594215
On 2016-08-22 14:12, Bast wrote:
> Sergio wrote:
>> On 8/21/2016 2:29 PM, Hägar wrote:
>>> "Bast"  wrote in message news:np9ij8$ar5$1@dont-email.me...
>>> Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 8/19/2016 3:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:

>>>> But, how can an air conditioner work in space?
>>>> there is no air to push around
>>
>>> How do you get rid of heat, in a vacuum ?
>>
>> you radiate it out, black body radiation into space,
>> everyone knows that
>> proportional to  the 4th power of the difference in Kelvin
>>
>> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/radiation-heat-transfer-d_431.html
>
> But you have to radiate it out faster than it coming in.
> And how does a sealed system radiate heat ?

Sergio gave you the answer to that question: blackbody radiation,
which radiates power proportionally to the fourth power of
absolute temperature.

> Look for yourself at any apollo spacesuit picture, and then you tell me how
> anything can be radiated (in very simple terms) WITHOUT a radiator ?

Are you even aware that most so-called "radiators":
<http://achildgrows.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/radiator.jpg>
<http://www.celmesrl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/120019501-2.jpg>
don't actually radiate, but work via convection, which only happens
when there is a surrounding fluid, such as air or water?

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
The name of the story is "A Sound of Thunder".
It was written by Ray Bradbury. You're welcome.

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#594471

From"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
Date2016-08-24 07:10 -0400
Message-ID<npjvfl$s4i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#594312

Michael F. Stemper wrote:
> On 2016-08-22 14:12, Bast wrote:
>> Sergio wrote:
>>> On 8/21/2016 2:29 PM, Hägar wrote:
>>>> "Bast"  wrote in message news:np9ij8$ar5$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> Sergio wrote:
>>>>> On 8/19/2016 3:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>>>>> But, how can an air conditioner work in space?
>>>>> there is no air to push around
>>>
>>>> How do you get rid of heat, in a vacuum ?
>>>
>>> you radiate it out, black body radiation into space,
>>> everyone knows that
>>> proportional to  the 4th power of the difference in Kelvin
>>>
>>> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/radiation-heat-transfer-d_431.html
>>
>> But you have to radiate it out faster than it coming in.
>> And how does a sealed system radiate heat ?
>
> Sergio gave you the answer to that question: blackbody radiation,
> which radiates power proportionally to the fourth power of
> absolute temperature.
>
>> Look for yourself at any apollo spacesuit picture, and then you tell
>> me how anything can be radiated (in very simple terms) WITHOUT a
>> radiator ?
>
> Are you even aware that most so-called "radiators":
> <http://achildgrows.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/radiator.jpg>
> <http://www.celmesrl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/120019501-2.jpg>
> don't actually radiate, but work via convection, which only happens
> when there is a surrounding fluid, such as air or water?




Are you claiming there was water and air on the moon in the late 60's ? 

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