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  The Einstein Shift Fraud Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-06 01:21 -0700
    Re: The Einstein Shift Fraud The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-06 10:51 -0700
      Re: The Einstein Shift Fraud The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-08 11:20 -0700
        Re: The Einstein Shift Fraud The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-08 11:51 -0700
          Re: The Einstein Shift Fraud Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-08-08 13:01 -0700
            Re: The Einstein Shift Fraud The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-08 14:17 -0700
          Re: The Einstein Shift Fraud The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-10 02:05 -0700
            Re: The Einstein Shift Fraud The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-10 10:56 -0700
    Re: The Einstein Shift Fraud Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-07 06:07 -0700

#592066 — The Einstein Shift Fraud

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_redshift 
 "In astrophysics, gravitational redshift or Einstein shift is the process by which electromagnetic radiation originating from a source that is in a gravitational field is reduced in frequency, or redshifted, when observed in a region at a higher gravitational potential. This is a direct result of gravitational time dilation - if one is outside of an isolated gravitational source, the rate at which time passes increases as one moves away from that source. [...] A number of experimenters initially claimed to have identified the effect using astronomical measurements, and the effect was eventually considered to have been finally identified in the spectral lines of the star Sirius B by W.S. Adams in 1925. However, measurements of the effect before the 1960s have been critiqued by (e.g., by C.M. Will), and the effect is now considered to have been definitively verified by the experiments of Pound, Rebka and Snider between 1959 and 1965."

Both - Adams and Pound-Rebka - experiments are downright fraud (gravitational time dilation is an idiotic nonexistent effect fabricated by Einstein in 1911):

http://www.einstein-online.info/spotlights/redshift_white_dwarfs 
 Albert Einstein Institute: "One of the three classical tests for general relativity is the gravitational redshift of light or other forms of electromagnetic radiation. However, in contrast to the other two tests - the gravitational deflection of light and the relativistic perihelion shift -, you do not need general relativity to derive the correct prediction for the gravitational redshift. A combination of Newtonian gravity, a particle theory of light, and the weak equivalence principle (gravitating mass equals inertial mass) suffices. [...] The gravitational redshift was first measured on earth in 1960-65 by Pound, Rebka, and Snider at Harvard University..."

http://preterism.ning.com/forum/topics/can-we-trust-the-data 
 "Consider the case of astronomer Walter Adams. In 1925 he tested Einstein's theory of relativity by measuring the red shift of the binary companion of Sirius, brightest star in the sky. Einstein's theory predicted a red shift of six parts in a hundred thousand; Adams found just such an effect. A triumph for relativity. However, in 1971, with updated estimates of the mass and radius of Sirius, it was found that the predicted red shift should have been much larger - 28 parts in a hundred thousand. Later observations of the red shift did indeed measure this amount, showing that Adams' observations were flawed. He "saw" what he had expected to see." 

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2010AAS...21530404H 
 "In January 1924 Arthur Eddington wrote to Walter S. Adams at the Mt. Wilson Observatory suggesting a measurement of the "Einstein shift" in Sirius B and providing an estimate of its magnitude. Adams' 1925 published results agreed remarkably well with Eddington's estimate. Initially this achievement was hailed as the third empirical test of General Relativity (after Mercury's anomalous perihelion advance and the 1919 measurement of the deflection of starlight). It has been known for some time that both Eddington's estimate and Adams' measurement underestimated the true Sirius B gravitational redshift by a factor of four." 

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1980QJRAS..21..246H 
 "...Eddington asked Adams to attempt the measurement. [...] ...Adams reported an average differential redshift of nineteen kilometers per second, very nearly the predicted gravitational redshift. Eddington was delighted with the result... [...] In 1928 Joseph Moore at the Lick Observatory measured differences between the redshifts of Sirius and Sirius B... [...] ...the average was nineteen kilometers per second, precisely what Adams had reported. [...] More seriously damaging to the reputation of Adams and Moore is the measurement in the 1960s at Mount Wilson by Jesse Greenstein, J.Oke, and H.Shipman. They found a differential redshift for Sirius B of roughly eighty kilometers per second." 

http://irfu.cea.fr/Phocea/file.php?file=Ast/2774/RELATIVITE-052-456.pdf 
 Jean-Marc Bonnet-Bidaud: "Le monde entier a cru pendant plus de cinquante ans à une théorie non vérifiée. Car, nous le savons aujourd'hui, les premières preuves, issues notamment d'une célèbre éclipse de 1919, n'en étaient pas. Elles reposaient en partie sur des manipulations peu avouables visant à obtenir un résultat connu à l'avance, et sur des mesures entachées d'incertitudes, quand il ne s'agissait pas de fraudes caractérisées. [...] Autour de l'étoile brillante Sirius, on découvre une petite étoile, Sirius B, à la fois très chaude et très faiblement lumineuse. Pour expliquer ces deux particularités, il faut supposer que l'étoile est aussi massive que le Soleil et aussi petite qu'une planète comme la Terre. C'est Eddington lui-même qui aboutit à cette conclusion dont il voit vite l'intérêt : avec de telles caractéristiques, ces naines blanches sont extrêmement denses et leur gravité très puissante. Le décalage vers le rouge de la gravitation est donc 100 fois plus élevé que sur le Soleil. Une occasion inespérée pour mesurer enfin quelque chose d'appréciable. Eddington s'adresse aussitôt à Walter Adams, directeur de l'observatoire du mont Wilson, en Californie, afin que le télescope de 2,5 m de diamètre Hooker entreprenne les vérifications. Selon ses estimations, basées sur une température de 8 000 degrés de Sirius B, mesurée par Adams lui-même, le décalage vers le rouge prédit par la relativité, en s'élevant à 20 km/s, devrait être facilement mesurable. Adams mobilise d'urgence le grand télescope et expose 28 plaques photographiques pour réaliser la mesure. Son rapport, publié le 18 mai 1925, est très confus car il mesure des vitesses allant de 2 à 33 km/s. Mais, par le jeu de corrections arbitraires dont personne ne comprendra jamais la logique, le décalage passe finalement à 21 km/s, plus tard corrigé à 19 km/s, et Eddington de conclure : "Les résultats peuvent être considérés comme fournissant une preuve directe de la validité du troisième test de la théorie de la relativité générale." Adams et Eddington se congratulent, ils viennent encore de "prouver" Einstein. Ce résultat, pourtant faux, ne sera pas remis en cause avant 1971. Manque de chance effectivement, la première mesure de température de Sirius B était largement inexacte : au lieu des 8 000 degrés envisagés par Eddington, l'étoile fait en réalité près de 30 000 degrés. Elle est donc beaucoup plus petite, sa gravité est plus intense et le décalage vers le rouge mesurable est de 89 km/s. C'est ce qu'aurait dû trouver Adams sur ses plaques s'il n'avait pas été "influencé" par le calcul erroné d'Eddington. L'écart est tellement flagrant que la suspicion de fraude a bien été envisagée."

Pentcho Valev

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#592089

If you really want to know about Einstein fraud...
what about his fraud that the Germans were buiding an atomic bomb?

Even Richard Feynman realized that it was just a ...fraud.

I bet you people didn't know that...


there is a video with Richard Feynman talking about it...about the
reason for the atomic bomb...did you see it?

and when he gets to the part about Why was he helping build an atomic
bomb...his eyes rolls when he mentions Germany.


I think he says something to the effect..."Oh yeah right (eyes roll) the
Germans were building one!"


I never seen so many deluded people here....and everywhere.

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#592348

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> If you really want to know about Einstein fraud...
> what about his fraud that the Germans were buiding an atomic bomb?
> 
> Even Richard Feynman realized that it was just a ...fraud.
> 
> I bet you people didn't know that...
> 
> there is a video with Richard Feynman talking about it...about the
> reason for the atomic bomb...did you see it?
> 
> and when he gets to the part about Why was he helping build an atomic
> bomb...his eyes rolls when he mentions Germany.
> 
> I think he says something to the effect..."Oh yeah right (eyes roll) the
> Germans were building one!"
> 


In other words...
when Richard Feynman ...realized, that he was
defrauded by Albert Einstein, by Albert Einstein inducting him
to build the atomic bomb to beat the Germans..then Feynman realized
he was just suckered in to build Einstein's bomb which was just
'an experiment' to prove e=mc2.


Now, if you feel you're working on something...in your life that
you feel it's important...in your career, and then all of a sudden you
get drafted to do somebody's else important work...you're going to be
a little angry.

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#592352

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > If you really want to know about Einstein fraud...
> > what about his fraud that the Germans were buiding an atomic bomb?
> >
> > Even Richard Feynman realized that it was just a ...fraud.
> >
> > I bet you people didn't know that...
> >
> > there is a video with Richard Feynman talking about it...about the
> > reason for the atomic bomb...did you see it?
> >
> > and when he gets to the part about Why was he helping build an atomic
> > bomb...his eyes rolls when he mentions Germany.
> >
> > I think he says something to the effect..."Oh yeah right (eyes roll) the
> > Germans were building one!"
> >
> 
> In other words...
> when Richard Feynman ...realized, that he was
> defrauded by Albert Einstein, by Albert Einstein inducting him
> to build the atomic bomb to beat the Germans..then Feynman realized
> he was just suckered in to build Einstein's bomb which was just
> 'an experiment' to prove e=mc2.
> 
> Now, if you feel you're working on something...in your life that
> you feel it's important...in your career, and then all of a sudden you
> get drafted to do somebody's else important work...you're going to be
> a little angry.



"to protect civilization"

"odd-job"

http://www.military.com/video/nuclear-bombs/nuclear-weapons/the-man-who-helped-make-the-atomic-bomb/1158173173001



Albert Einstein: "Hey Feynman stop what you're doing, I got an odd job for you."

Richard Feynman: "What?"

Albert Einstein: "To PROTECT CIVILIZATION!!!"

Richard Feynman: "How?"

Albert Einstein: "Build a fuckin bomb and kill all those fuckin germans!!!!

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#592360

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 11:51:15 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > If you really want to know about Einstein fraud...
> > > what about his fraud that the Germans were buiding an atomic bomb?
> > >
> > > Even Richard Feynman realized that it was just a ...fraud.
> > >
> > > I bet you people didn't know that...
> > >
> > > there is a video with Richard Feynman talking about it...about the
> > > reason for the atomic bomb...did you see it?
> > >
> > > and when he gets to the part about Why was he helping build an atomic
> > > bomb...his eyes rolls when he mentions Germany.
> > >
> > > I think he says something to the effect..."Oh yeah right (eyes roll) the
> > > Germans were building one!"
> > >
> > 
> > In other words...
> > when Richard Feynman ...realized, that he was
> > defrauded by Albert Einstein, by Albert Einstein inducting him
> > to build the atomic bomb to beat the Germans..then Feynman realized
> > he was just suckered in to build Einstein's bomb which was just
> > 'an experiment' to prove e=mc2.
> > 
> > Now, if you feel you're working on something...in your life that
> > you feel it's important...in your career, and then all of a sudden you
> > get drafted to do somebody's else important work...you're going to be
> > a little angry.
> 
> 
> 
> "to protect civilization"
> 
> "odd-job"
> 
> http://www.military.com/video/nuclear-bombs/nuclear-weapons/the-man-who-helped-make-the-atomic-bomb/1158173173001
> 
> 
> 
> Albert Einstein: "Hey Feynman stop what you're doing, I got an odd job for you."
> 
> Richard Feynman: "What?"
> 
> Albert Einstein: "To PROTECT CIVILIZATION!!!"
> 
> Richard Feynman: "How?"
> 
> Albert Einstein: "Build a fuckin bomb and kill all those fuckin germans!!!!


And after all the work all those exiled Jews put in on them, those bombs didn't kill a single German!

Double-A

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#592377

Double-A wrote:
> 
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 11:51:15 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you really want to know about Einstein fraud...
> > > > what about his fraud that the Germans were buiding an atomic bomb?
> > > >
> > > > Even Richard Feynman realized that it was just a ...fraud.
> > > >
> > > > I bet you people didn't know that...
> > > >
> > > > there is a video with Richard Feynman talking about it...about the
> > > > reason for the atomic bomb...did you see it?
> > > >
> > > > and when he gets to the part about Why was he helping build an atomic
> > > > bomb...his eyes rolls when he mentions Germany.
> > > >
> > > > I think he says something to the effect..."Oh yeah right (eyes roll) the
> > > > Germans were building one!"
> > > >
> > >
> > > In other words...
> > > when Richard Feynman ...realized, that he was
> > > defrauded by Albert Einstein, by Albert Einstein inducting him
> > > to build the atomic bomb to beat the Germans..then Feynman realized
> > > he was just suckered in to build Einstein's bomb which was just
> > > 'an experiment' to prove e=mc2.
> > >
> > > Now, if you feel you're working on something...in your life that
> > > you feel it's important...in your career, and then all of a sudden you
> > > get drafted to do somebody's else important work...you're going to be
> > > a little angry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "to protect civilization"
> >
> > "odd-job"
> >
> > http://www.military.com/video/nuclear-bombs/nuclear-weapons/the-man-who-helped-make-the-atomic-bomb/1158173173001
> >
> >
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "Hey Feynman stop what you're doing, I got an odd job for you."
> >
> > Richard Feynman: "What?"
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "To PROTECT CIVILIZATION!!!"
> >
> > Richard Feynman: "How?"
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "Build a fuckin bomb and kill all those fuckin germans!!!!
> 
> And after all the work all those exiled Jews put in on them, those bombs didn't kill a single German!
> 
> Double-A



Albert Einstein never had any intentions to kill any Germans..it was
just an 'experiment' he was working on.


A big experiment...

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#592646

Arc Michael wrote:
> 
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 11:51:13 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you really want to know about Einstein fraud...
> > > > what about his fraud that the Germans were buiding an atomic bomb?
> > > >
> > > > Even Richard Feynman realized that it was just a ...fraud.
> > > >
> > > > I bet you people didn't know that...
> > > >
> > > > there is a video with Richard Feynman talking about it...about the
> > > > reason for the atomic bomb...did you see it?
> > > >
> > > > and when he gets to the part about Why was he helping build an atomic
> > > > bomb...his eyes rolls when he mentions Germany.
> > > >
> > > > I think he says something to the effect..."Oh yeah right (eyes roll) the
> > > > Germans were building one!"
> > > >
> > >
> > > In other words...
> > > when Richard Feynman ...realized, that he was
> > > defrauded by Albert Einstein, by Albert Einstein inducting him
> > > to build the atomic bomb to beat the Germans..then Feynman realized
> > > he was just suckered in to build Einstein's bomb which was just
> > > 'an experiment' to prove e=mc2.
> > >
> > > Now, if you feel you're working on something...in your life that
> > > you feel it's important...in your career, and then all of a sudden you
> > > get drafted to do somebody's else important work...you're going to be
> > > a little angry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "to protect civilization"
> >
> > "odd-job"
> >
> > http://www.military.com/video/nuclear-bombs/nuclear-weapons/the-man-who-helped-make-the-atomic-bomb/1158173173001
> >
> >
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "Hey Feynman stop what you're doing, I got an odd job for you."
> >
> > Richard Feynman: "What?"
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "To PROTECT CIVILIZATION!!!"
> >
> > Richard Feynman: "How?"
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "Build a fuckin bomb and kill all those fuckin germans!!!!
> 
> wow



Then Richard Feynman asks: "But Why?"

Albert Einstein: "Hey Man, they were fucking trying to kill me, ...and my people!!!!"


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/07/05/2003262351


Richard Feynman: "YOUR PEOPLE??? What people are you talking about???"


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/07/05/2003262351


Richard Feynman: "And didn't you write that you were a pacifist??"

Albert Einstein: "I didn't write that I was an absolute pacifist but that I have always been a convinced pacifist. 
That means there are circumstances in which in my opinion it is necessary to use *force*."


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/07/05/2003262351



http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html

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#592668

TB wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 2:04:01 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Arc Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 11:51:13 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you really want to know about Einstein fraud...
> > > > > > what about his fraud that the Germans were buiding an atomic bomb?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Even Richard Feynman realized that it was just a ...fraud.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I bet you people didn't know that...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > there is a video with Richard Feynman talking about it...about the
> > > > > > reason for the atomic bomb...did you see it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and when he gets to the part about Why was he helping build an atomic
> > > > > > bomb...his eyes rolls when he mentions Germany.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think he says something to the effect..."Oh yeah right (eyes roll) the
> > > > > > Germans were building one!"
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words...
> > > > > when Richard Feynman ...realized, that he was
> > > > > defrauded by Albert Einstein, by Albert Einstein inducting him
> > > > > to build the atomic bomb to beat the Germans..then Feynman realized
> > > > > he was just suckered in to build Einstein's bomb which was just
> > > > > 'an experiment' to prove e=mc2.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, if you feel you're working on something...in your life that
> > > > > you feel it's important...in your career, and then all of a sudden you
> > > > > get drafted to do somebody's else important work...you're going to be
> > > > > a little angry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "to protect civilization"
> > > >
> > > > "odd-job"
> > > >
> > > > http://www.military.com/video/nuclear-bombs/nuclear-weapons/the-man-who-helped-make-the-atomic-bomb/1158173173001
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein: "Hey Feynman stop what you're doing, I got an odd job for you."
> > > >
> > > > Richard Feynman: "What?"
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein: "To PROTECT CIVILIZATION!!!"
> > > >
> > > > Richard Feynman: "How?"
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein: "Build a fuckin bomb and kill all those fuckin germans!!!!
> > >
> > > wow
> >
> >
> >
> > Then Richard Feynman asks: "But Why?"
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "Hey Man, they were fucking trying to kill me, ...and my people!!!!"
> >
> >
> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/07/05/2003262351
> >
> >
> > Richard Feynman: "YOUR PEOPLE??? What people are you talking about???"
> 
> So Einstein was concerned that something like the Holocaust might occur?


No, there was no such thing as the word "Holocaust" at that time...it was just 'a little persercution'.






> >
> >
> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/07/05/2003262351
> >
> >
> > Richard Feynman: "And didn't you write that you were a pacifist??"
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "I didn't write that I was an absolute pacifist but that I have always been a convinced pacifist.
> > That means there are circumstances in which in my opinion it is necessary to use *force*."
> 
> So Einstein would favor using force to stop ISIS from slaughtering anyone not of their brand of Islam?


Einstein would favor using the atomic bomb on Germans. He would never sign a ptition against it.


But, you see how Albert Einstein is just like those 'other science guys', making up new words when they get wishy washy.

I never knew there were so many different versions of the word 'pacifist..."absolute pacifist", "convinced pacifist"..

He just makes up new words as he goes along to get himslf out of a mess. A fucking fruad that Einstein is, isn't he?


No wonder Germany put out a contract on him to kill him....he was a problem.



Then you have stupid people here today that say..."Oh, they would have built a atom bomb if einstien didn't exist."



They never heard the expression, "Why didn't I think of it?" ....because you didn't, einstein did.









> >
> >
> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/07/05/2003262351
> >
> >
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html

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#592185

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hanoch-gutfreund/relatively-speaking_1_b_7314788.html 
 Hanoch Gutfreund: "The general theory of relativity predicts that time progresses slower in a stronger gravitational field than in a weaker one." 

Actually the prediction is much more idiotic than that: General relativity predicts that gravitational time dilation occurs even in a HOMOGENEOUS gravitational field:

http://cds.cern.ch/record/538836/files/0202058.pdf 
 "the homogeneous gravitational field is the gravitational field which, in every point, has the same gradient of the potential. Such a field is produced by an infinite material plane with the constant surface density of mass."

This means that two clocks at different heights are in EXACTLY THE SAME immediate environment (experience EXACTLY THE SAME gravitational field) and yet one of them ticks faster than the other. That is, according to general relativity, the effect (gravitational time dilation) has no physical cause. 

"Effect without cause" is not a problem in Einstein's schizophrenic world but clever Einsteinians feel uncomfortable from time to time and admit that there is no gravitational time dilation: 

http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Its-Roots-Banesh-Hoffmann/dp/0486406768 
 Banesh Hoffmann: "In an accelerated sky laboratory, and therefore also in the corresponding earth laboratory, the frequence of arrival of light pulses is lower than the ticking rate of the upper clocks even though all the clocks go at the same rate. [...] As a result the experimenter at the ceiling of the sky laboratory will see with his own eyes that the floor clock is going at a slower rate than the ceiling clock - even though, as I have stressed, both are going at the same rate. [...] The gravitational red shift does not arise from changes in the intrinsic rates of clocks. It arises from what befalls light signals as they traverse space and time in the presence of gravitation." 

What "befalls" light signals as they traverse space and time in the presence of gravitation? They accelerate of course, just as ordinary falling objects do, and this variation of the speed of light causes the gravitational redshift (or blueshift): 

http://courses.physics.illinois.edu/phys419/sp2013/Lectures/l13.pdf 
 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign: "Consider a falling object. ITS SPEED INCREASES AS IT IS FALLING. Hence, if we were to associate a frequency with that object the frequency should increase accordingly as it falls to earth. Because of the equivalence between gravitational and inertial mass, WE SHOULD OBSERVE THE SAME EFFECT FOR LIGHT. So lets shine a light beam from the top of a very tall building. If we can measure the frequency shift as the light beam descends the building, we should be able to discern how gravity affects a falling light beam. This was done by Pound and Rebka in 1960. They shone a light from the top of the Jefferson tower at Harvard and measured the frequency shift. The frequency shift was tiny but in agreement with the theoretical prediction." 

http://www.einstein-online.info/spotlights/redshift_white_dwarfs 
 Albert Einstein Institute: "One of the three classical tests for general relativity is the gravitational redshift of light or other forms of electromagnetic radiation. However, in contrast to the other two tests - the gravitational deflection of light and the relativistic perihelion shift -, you do not need general relativity to derive the correct prediction for the gravitational redshift. A combination of Newtonian gravity, a particle theory of light, and the weak equivalence principle (gravitating mass equals inertial mass) suffices. [...] The gravitational redshift was first measured on earth in 1960-65 by Pound, Rebka, and Snider at Harvard University..."  x 

And since there is no gravitational time dilation, there are no gravitational waves either (LIGO fraudsters will have serious problems sooner or later). 

Pentcho Valev

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