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FAITH

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-06-17 00:33 -0700
Last post2016-06-21 14:06 -0400
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  FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-17 00:33 -0700
    Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-17 11:47 +0000
      Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 08:14 -0400
        Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 05:23 -0700
          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 08:33 -0400
            Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 05:41 -0700
              Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 09:04 -0400
                Re: FAITH bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-17 10:36 -0500
                Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 18:26 -0700
                  Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 23:17 -0400
                    Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 20:42 -0700
                      Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 23:47 -0400
                        Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 20:58 -0700
                          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 08:30 -0400
                            Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 06:23 -0700
                              Re: FAITH Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 06:33 -0700
                              Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 09:48 -0400
                                Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 12:17 -0700
                                Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 15:01 -0700
                                  Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 20:08 -0400
                                    Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-18 18:21 -0600
                                      Re: FAITH James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 17:30 -0700
                                      Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 20:38 -0400
                                        Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-18 21:11 -0600
                                          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:03 -0400
                                          Re: FAITH James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 07:42 -0700
                                        Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:16 -0700
                                          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:06 -0400
                                            Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:53 -0700
                                              Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:57 -0400
                                      Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:16 -0700
                                        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 20:24 -0700
                                          Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 23:14 -0700
                                            Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-19 08:37 +0100
                                        Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:11 -0400
                                          Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:57 -0700
                                            Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 04:03 -0400
                                    Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:15 -0700
                                      Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:25 -0400
                                        Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:58 -0700
                                          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 04:05 -0400
                                  Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 23:05 -0700
              Re: FAITH Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-17 13:54 -0500
              Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-17 19:46 +0000
            Re: FAITH bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-17 10:34 -0500
            Re: FAITH Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-06-17 23:28 -0400
        Re: FAITH bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-17 10:33 -0500
      Re: FAITH duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-06-17 17:41 -0500
        Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-18 02:03 +0000
          Re: FAITH duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-06-18 11:10 -0500
    Re: FAITH Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 02:54 +0000
      Re: FAITH djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-18 03:12 +0000
    Re: FAITH Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 09:34 -0700
      Re: FAITH pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-06-18 12:45 -0700
        Re: FAITH James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 17:13 -0700
    Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 12:51 -0700
    Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 07:14 -0700
      Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-20 19:51 +0000
        Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-20 21:59 +0100
          Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-21 00:55 +0000
            Re: FAITH Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-20 20:26 -0500
              Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-21 08:08 +0100
              Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-21 11:01 +0000
        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 17:53 -0700
          Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-21 08:05 +0100
            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 00:51 -0700
              Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-22 10:56 +0100
                Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 23:52 -0700
                  Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-23 14:33 +0100
                  Re: FAITH Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-06-23 11:22 -0600
                    Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-24 00:19 +0000
                  Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-24 00:24 +0000
      Re: FAITH WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2016-06-21 14:10 -0400
        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-21 15:09 -0700
          Re: FAITH Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-21 20:57 -0500
            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-21 19:21 -0700
          Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-22 08:09 +0100
          Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 01:07 -0700
            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 23:44 -0700
              Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-23 11:24 -0600
                Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-23 22:54 -0700
                  Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-24 09:07 -0600
                    Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-24 11:14 -0700
                      Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-24 12:51 -0600
                        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-24 13:38 -0700
                          Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-24 16:45 -0600
                            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-24 16:44 -0700
                              Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-24 18:03 -0600
                Re: FAITH "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 10:28 -0700
    Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 11:09 -0700
      Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-20 19:55 +0000
        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 18:16 -0700
          Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-21 11:04 +0000
            Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-21 05:10 -0700
              Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-21 22:00 -0400
              Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 00:56 -0700
            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 00:54 -0700
              Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-22 10:58 +0100
                Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-22 12:29 +0000
                Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 23:55 -0700
                  Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-23 14:16 +0100
    Re: FAITH little brother <andronicus451@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 04:17 -0700
    Re: FAITH WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2016-06-21 14:06 -0400

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#586375

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-23 22:54 -0700
Message-ID<576CCAFD.2975@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#586336
Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> 
> For example, to know that God does exist would require a perfect
> knowledge of all things.


isn't that what I wrote?


For example, to know that God does not exist would require a perfect
knowledge of all things.


Why did you remove the "not", when not means A??


For an atheist to claim God does not exist, would require of that atheist to have a
perfect knowledge of ...all things. That atheist would have to be an omniscient being.


Has anyone ever proved that Leprecauns don't exist????

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#586388

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-06-24 09:07 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-2491D9.09072524062016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#586375
In article <576CCAFD.2975@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> For an atheist to claim God does not exist, would require of that atheist to 
> have a
> perfect knowledge of ...all things. That atheist would have to be an 
> omniscient being.

Then, equally, for a theist to claim God does exist, would require of 
that theist to have a perfect knowledge of ... all things. That theist 
would have to be an omniscient being, a god him-or-her-self.

So does "Starmaker" claim that he or she is a god him-or-her-self?

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#586398

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-24 11:14 -0700
Message-ID<576D788D.3F4C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#586388
Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> 
> In article <576CCAFD.2975@ix.netcom.com>,
>  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> > For an atheist to claim God does not exist, would require of that atheist to
> > have a
> > perfect knowledge of ...all things. That atheist would have to be an
> > omniscient being.
> 
> Then, equally, for a theist to claim God does exist, would require of
> that theist to have a perfect knowledge of ... all things. That theist
> would have to be an omniscient being, a god him-or-her-self.
> 
> So does "Starmaker" claim that he or she is a god him-or-her-self?



What claim have I ever made???

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#586401

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-06-24 12:51 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-FD4213.12511824062016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#586398
In article <576D788D.3F4C@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > 
> > In article <576CCAFD.2975@ix.netcom.com>,
> >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > For an atheist to claim God does not exist, would require of that atheist 
> > > to
> > > have a
> > > perfect knowledge of ...all things. That atheist would have to be an
> > > omniscient being.
> > 
> > Then, equally, for a theist to claim God does exist, would require of
> > that theist to have a perfect knowledge of ... all things. That theist
> > would have to be an omniscient being, a god him-or-her-self.
> > 
> > So does "Starmaker" claim that he or she is a god him-or-her-self?
> 
> 
> 
> What claim have I ever made???

You have falsely claimed that "For an atheist to claim God does not 
exist, would require of that atheist to have a perfect knowledge of 
...all things."

Since atheists have been claiming that for years, without any "perfect 
knowledge of ...all things", but merely using common sense, you are 
lying!

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#586404

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-24 13:38 -0700
Message-ID<576D9A56.4F03@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#586401
Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> 
> In article <576D788D.3F4C@ix.netcom.com>,
>  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> > Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <576CCAFD.2975@ix.netcom.com>,
> > >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > For an atheist to claim God does not exist, would require of that atheist
> > > > to
> > > > have a
> > > > perfect knowledge of ...all things. That atheist would have to be an
> > > > omniscient being.
> > >
> > > Then, equally, for a theist to claim God does exist, would require of
> > > that theist to have a perfect knowledge of ... all things. That theist
> > > would have to be an omniscient being, a god him-or-her-self.
> > >
> > > So does "Starmaker" claim that he or she is a god him-or-her-self?
> >
> >
> >
> > What claim have I ever made???
> 
> You have falsely claimed that "For an atheist to claim God does not
> exist, would require of that atheist to have a perfect knowledge of
> ...all things."
> 
> Since atheists have been claiming that for years, without any "perfect
> knowledge of ...all things", but merely using common sense, you are
> lying!


'common sense'???? Common sense is just..an opinion.


Are you saying an atheist claiming that God does not exist' is just an 'opinion' of theirs???


I thought those guys were soooo sure!


Their opinions don't matter. It's garbage!


Either you know or you don't know...which one is it?

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#586415

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-06-24 16:45 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-9FEF82.16451924062016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#586404
In article <576D9A56.4F03@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > 
> > In article <576D788D.3F4C@ix.netcom.com>,
> >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <576CCAFD.2975@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For an atheist to claim God does not exist, would require of that 
> > > > > atheist
> > > > > to
> > > > > have a
> > > > > perfect knowledge of ...all things. That atheist would have to be an
> > > > > omniscient being.
> > > >
> > > > Then, equally, for a theist to claim God does exist, would require of
> > > > that theist to have a perfect knowledge of ... all things. That theist
> > > > would have to be an omniscient being, a god him-or-her-self.
> > > >
> > > > So does "Starmaker" claim that he or she is a god him-or-her-self?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What claim have I ever made???
> > 
> > You have falsely claimed that "For an atheist to claim God does not
> > exist, would require of that atheist to have a perfect knowledge of
> > ...all things."
> > 
> > Since atheists have been claiming that for years, without any "perfect
> > knowledge of ...all things", but merely using common sense, you are
> > lying!
> 
> 
> 'common sense'???? Common sense is just..an opinion. 

That may be your opinion, but your opinions are uncommonly nonsensical.

> Either you know or you don't know...which one is it?

"It ain't what you don't know that hurts you most, its what you know for 
sure that jest ain't so."   Mark Twain

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#586447

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-24 16:44 -0700
Message-ID<576DC5EE.6E28@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#586415
Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> 
> In article <576D9A56.4F03@ix.netcom.com>,
>  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> > Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <576D788D.3F4C@ix.netcom.com>,
> > >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <576CCAFD.2975@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > > >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > For an atheist to claim God does not exist, would require of that
> > > > > > atheist
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > have a
> > > > > > perfect knowledge of ...all things. That atheist would have to be an
> > > > > > omniscient being.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then, equally, for a theist to claim God does exist, would require of
> > > > > that theist to have a perfect knowledge of ... all things. That theist
> > > > > would have to be an omniscient being, a god him-or-her-self.
> > > > >
> > > > > So does "Starmaker" claim that he or she is a god him-or-her-self?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What claim have I ever made???
> > >
> > > You have falsely claimed that "For an atheist to claim God does not
> > > exist, would require of that atheist to have a perfect knowledge of
> > > ...all things."
> > >
> > > Since atheists have been claiming that for years, without any "perfect
> > > knowledge of ...all things", but merely using common sense, you are
> > > lying!
> >
> >
> > 'common sense'???? Common sense is just..an opinion.
> 
> That may be your opinion, 

It is not my opinion...it is the definition of the words "common sense"

https://www.google.com/#q=define+common+sense

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/judgment

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#586464

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-06-24 18:03 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-78F003.18031724062016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#586447
In article <576DC5EE.6E28@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > 
> > In article <576D9A56.4F03@ix.netcom.com>,
> >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <576D788D.3F4C@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In article <576CCAFD.2975@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > > > >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > For an atheist to claim God does not exist, would require of that
> > > > > > > atheist
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > perfect knowledge of ...all things. That atheist would have to be 
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > omniscient being.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then, equally, for a theist to claim God does exist, would require 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > that theist to have a perfect knowledge of ... all things. That 
> > > > > > theist
> > > > > > would have to be an omniscient being, a god him-or-her-self.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So does "Starmaker" claim that he or she is a god him-or-her-self?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What claim have I ever made???
> > > >
> > > > You have falsely claimed that "For an atheist to claim God does not
> > > > exist, would require of that atheist to have a perfect knowledge of
> > > > ...all things."
> > > >
> > > > Since atheists have been claiming that for years, without any "perfect
> > > > knowledge of ...all things", but merely using common sense, you are
> > > > lying!
> > >
> > >
> > > 'common sense'???? Common sense is just..an opinion.
> > 
> > That may be your opinion, 
> 
> It is not my opinion.
 
Then why claim it?

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#586440

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-24 10:28 -0700
Message-ID<24a76436-a122-403c-943e-4ca4cd0c288f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#586336
On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 10:24:55 AM UTC-7, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> For example, to know that God does exist would require a perfect
> knowledge of all things.

An Atheist can not become president of USA  TreBert

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#585842

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-20 11:09 -0700
Message-ID<5768316F.7706@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#585250
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Faith
> 
> faith
> 
> noun: faith
> 
>     1.
>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
> 
> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
> 
> Like for example...
> 
> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
> 
> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on Mars.
> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
> 
> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in the universe.
> 
> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.


Have they found any Martians yet?

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#585863

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-06-20 19:55 +0000
Message-ID<nk9hn3$264$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#585842
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> Faith
>> 
>> faith
>> 
>> noun: faith
>> 
>>     1.
>>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
>> 
>> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
>> 
>> Like for example...
>> 
>> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
>> 
>> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
>> Mars.
>> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
>> 
>> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in the
>> universe.
>> 
>> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
> 
> Have they found any Martians yet?

Why do you want to know?
Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#585916

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-20 18:16 -0700
Message-ID<5768957E.79DC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#585863
Smiler wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> Faith
> >>
> >> faith
> >>
> >> noun: faith
> >>
> >>     1.
> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
> >>
> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
> >>
> >> Like for example...
> >>
> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
> >>
> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
> >> Mars.
> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
> >>
> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in the
> >> universe.
> >>
> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
> >
> > Have they found any Martians yet?
> 
> Why do you want to know?
> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?


What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???

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#585973

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-06-21 11:04 +0000
Message-ID<nkb70n$ahv$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#585916
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> Smiler wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Faith
>> >>
>> >> faith
>> >>
>> >> noun: faith
>> >>
>> >>     1.
>> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
>> >>
>> >> Like for example...
>> >>
>> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
>> >>
>> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
>> >> Mars.
>> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
>> >>
>> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in
>> >> the universe.
>> >>
>> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
>> >
>> > Have they found any Martians yet?
>> 
>> Why do you want to know?
>> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?
> 
> What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???

The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#585979

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-06-21 05:10 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-4884C4.05103521062016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#585973
In article <nkb70n$ahv$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> 
wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > Smiler wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> 
> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Faith
> >> >>
> >> >> faith
> >> >>
> >> >> noun: faith
> >> >>
> >> >>     1.
> >> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
> >> >>
> >> >> Like for example...
> >> >>
> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
> >> >>
> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
> >> >> Mars.
> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
> >> >>
> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in
> >> >> the universe.
> >> >>
> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
> >> >
> >> > Have they found any Martians yet?
> >> 
> >> Why do you want to know?
> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?
> > 
> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???

To see what's there. What other possible reason could there be?


> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#586111

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2016-06-21 22:00 -0400
Message-ID<pqrjmblubf62nbon8iikrau7uuu7mgm1hu@4ax.com>
In reply to#585979
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 05:10:35 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

>In article <nkb70n$ahv$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> 
>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> > Smiler wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Faith
>> >> >>
>> >> >> faith
>> >> >>
>> >> >> noun: faith
>> >> >>
>> >> >>     1.
>> >> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Like for example...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
>> >> >> Mars.
>> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in
>> >> >> the universe.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
>> >> >
>> >> > Have they found any Martians yet?
>> >> 
>> >> Why do you want to know?
>> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?
>> > 
>> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???
>
>To see what's there. What other possible reason could there be?

Why must there be only one reason?

Other possibilities:
1. The voices in your head told you to go.
2. To build a launch platform to go farther.
3. To get what one already knows to be there.
4. Pride ... I was first!
5. George Mallory: Because it's there.
6. To live in 0.38 g because 1.0 g has been soooo done.

Ask here if you want more reasons:
http://www.marssociety.org/

>
>
>> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you.

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#586143

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-22 00:56 -0700
Message-ID<576A44A5.66FE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#585979
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> 
> In article <nkb70n$ahv$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > > Smiler wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Faith
> > >> >>
> > >> >> faith
> > >> >>
> > >> >> noun: faith
> > >> >>
> > >> >>     1.
> > >> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Like for example...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
> > >> >> Mars.
> > >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in
> > >> >> the universe.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
> > >> >
> > >> > Have they found any Martians yet?
> > >>
> > >> Why do you want to know?
> > >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?
> > >
> > > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???
> 
> To see what's there. What other possible reason could there be?


i see rocks.


There are no other possible reasons there could be..

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#586142

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-22 00:54 -0700
Message-ID<576A4423.33D9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#585973
Smiler wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > Smiler wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Faith
> >> >>
> >> >> faith
> >> >>
> >> >> noun: faith
> >> >>
> >> >>     1.
> >> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
> >> >>
> >> >> Like for example...
> >> >>
> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
> >> >>
> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
> >> >> Mars.
> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
> >> >>
> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in
> >> >> the universe.
> >> >>
> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
> >> >
> >> > Have they found any Martians yet?
> >>
> >> Why do you want to know?
> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?
> >
> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???
> 
> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you.


Well, if i need to search for knowledge, I'm suppose to dig a hole in
the ground???


What knowledge can you get from a rock????

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#586150

FromLes Hellawell <les@shant.tell>
Date2016-06-22 10:58 +0100
Message-ID<c6okmb5qefid1uj60vgedvh31uc655fq4v@4ax.com>
In reply to#586142
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:54:11 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Smiler wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> > Smiler wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Faith
>> >> >>
>> >> >> faith
>> >> >>
>> >> >> noun: faith
>> >> >>
>> >> >>     1.
>> >> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Like for example...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
>> >> >> Mars.
>> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in
>> >> >> the universe.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
>> >> >
>> >> > Have they found any Martians yet?
>> >>
>> >> Why do you want to know?
>> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?
>> >
>> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???
>> 
>> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you.
>
>
>Well, if i need to search for knowledge, I'm suppose to dig a hole in
>the ground???
>
>
>What knowledge can you get from a rock????

Quite a lot as it happens

Les Hellawell
Greeting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Martin Luther wrote:
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

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#586157

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-06-22 12:29 +0000
Message-ID<nke0bk$ck5$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#586150
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:58:28 +0100, Les Hellawell wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:54:11 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
>>Smiler wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Smiler wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Faith
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> faith
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> noun: faith
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>     1.
>>> >> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Like for example...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water
>>> >> >> on Mars.
>>> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere
>>> >> >> in the universe.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Have they found any Martians yet?
>>> >>
>>> >> Why do you want to know?
>>> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?
>>> >
>>> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???
>>> 
>>> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you.
>>
>>Well, if i need to search for knowledge, I'm suppose to dig a hole in
>>the ground???
>>
>>What knowledge can you get from a rock????
> 
> Quite a lot as it happens

Proves my point, knowledge is quite alien to him.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#586284

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-22 23:55 -0700
Message-ID<576B87D4.1A7F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#586150
Les Hellawell wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:54:11 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Smiler wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> > Smiler wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Faith
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> faith
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> noun: faith
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>     1.
> >> >> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Like for example...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
> >> >> >> Mars.
> >> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in
> >> >> >> the universe.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Have they found any Martians yet?
> >> >>
> >> >> Why do you want to know?
> >> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?
> >> >
> >> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???
> >>
> >> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you.
> >
> >
> >Well, if i need to search for knowledge, I'm suppose to dig a hole in
> >the ground???
> >
> >
> >What knowledge can you get from a rock????
> 
> Quite a lot as it happens


"Quite a lot" is not an acceptable answer.



What knowledge can you get from a rock????

Take your monitor and keyboard and plug it into your rock and see how
much information you get...

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