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FAITH

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-06-17 00:33 -0700
Last post2016-06-21 14:06 -0400
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  FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-17 00:33 -0700
    Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-17 11:47 +0000
      Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 08:14 -0400
        Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 05:23 -0700
          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 08:33 -0400
            Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 05:41 -0700
              Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 09:04 -0400
                Re: FAITH bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-17 10:36 -0500
                Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 18:26 -0700
                  Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 23:17 -0400
                    Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 20:42 -0700
                      Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 23:47 -0400
                        Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 20:58 -0700
                          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 08:30 -0400
                            Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 06:23 -0700
                              Re: FAITH Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 06:33 -0700
                              Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 09:48 -0400
                                Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 12:17 -0700
                                Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 15:01 -0700
                                  Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 20:08 -0400
                                    Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-18 18:21 -0600
                                      Re: FAITH James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 17:30 -0700
                                      Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 20:38 -0400
                                        Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-18 21:11 -0600
                                          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:03 -0400
                                          Re: FAITH James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 07:42 -0700
                                        Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:16 -0700
                                          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:06 -0400
                                            Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:53 -0700
                                              Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:57 -0400
                                      Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:16 -0700
                                        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 20:24 -0700
                                          Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 23:14 -0700
                                            Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-19 08:37 +0100
                                        Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:11 -0400
                                          Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:57 -0700
                                            Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 04:03 -0400
                                    Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:15 -0700
                                      Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:25 -0400
                                        Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:58 -0700
                                          Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 04:05 -0400
                                  Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 23:05 -0700
              Re: FAITH Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-17 13:54 -0500
              Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-17 19:46 +0000
            Re: FAITH bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-17 10:34 -0500
            Re: FAITH Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-06-17 23:28 -0400
        Re: FAITH bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-17 10:33 -0500
      Re: FAITH duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-06-17 17:41 -0500
        Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-18 02:03 +0000
          Re: FAITH duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-06-18 11:10 -0500
    Re: FAITH Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 02:54 +0000
      Re: FAITH djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-18 03:12 +0000
    Re: FAITH Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 09:34 -0700
      Re: FAITH pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-06-18 12:45 -0700
        Re: FAITH James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 17:13 -0700
    Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 12:51 -0700
    Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 07:14 -0700
      Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-20 19:51 +0000
        Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-20 21:59 +0100
          Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-21 00:55 +0000
            Re: FAITH Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-20 20:26 -0500
              Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-21 08:08 +0100
              Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-21 11:01 +0000
        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 17:53 -0700
          Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-21 08:05 +0100
            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 00:51 -0700
              Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-22 10:56 +0100
                Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 23:52 -0700
                  Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-23 14:33 +0100
                  Re: FAITH Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-06-23 11:22 -0600
                    Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-24 00:19 +0000
                  Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-24 00:24 +0000
      Re: FAITH WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2016-06-21 14:10 -0400
        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-21 15:09 -0700
          Re: FAITH Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-21 20:57 -0500
            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-21 19:21 -0700
          Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-22 08:09 +0100
          Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 01:07 -0700
            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 23:44 -0700
              Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-23 11:24 -0600
                Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-23 22:54 -0700
                  Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-24 09:07 -0600
                    Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-24 11:14 -0700
                      Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-24 12:51 -0600
                        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-24 13:38 -0700
                          Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-24 16:45 -0600
                            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-24 16:44 -0700
                              Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-24 18:03 -0600
                Re: FAITH "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 10:28 -0700
    Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 11:09 -0700
      Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-20 19:55 +0000
        Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 18:16 -0700
          Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-21 11:04 +0000
            Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-21 05:10 -0700
              Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-21 22:00 -0400
              Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 00:56 -0700
            Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 00:54 -0700
              Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-22 10:58 +0100
                Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-22 12:29 +0000
                Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 23:55 -0700
                  Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-23 14:16 +0100
    Re: FAITH little brother <andronicus451@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 04:17 -0700
    Re: FAITH WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2016-06-21 14:06 -0400

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#586314

FromLes Hellawell <les@shant.tell>
Date2016-06-23 14:16 +0100
Message-ID<3lnnmb195gsj6cfade8lh16s0pijjo6oe1@4ax.com>
In reply to#586284
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:55:16 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Les Hellawell wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:54:11 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Smiler wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Smiler wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Faith
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> faith
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> noun: faith
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>     1.
>> >> >> >>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Like for example...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on
>> >> >> >> Mars.
>> >> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in
>> >> >> >> the universe.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Have they found any Martians yet?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why do you want to know?
>> >> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them?
>> >> >
>> >> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???
>> >>
>> >> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you.
>> >
>> >
>> >Well, if i need to search for knowledge, I'm suppose to dig a hole in
>> >the ground???
>> >
>> >
>> >What knowledge can you get from a rock????
>> 
>> Quite a lot as it happens
>
>
>"Quite a lot" is not an acceptable answer.

Don't accept it then and stay ignorant. 

Being religious you will most likely prefer it that way anyway
>
>
>
>What knowledge can you get from a rock????
>
>Take your monitor and keyboard and plug it into your rock and see how
>much information you get...

I know exactly how much information I would get but that is not how
I would go about studying rocks. 



Les Hellawell
Greeting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Martin Luther wrote:
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

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#585974

Fromlittle brother <andronicus451@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-21 04:17 -0700
Message-ID<81e08d0e-6d5c-4d3b-91c7-825bf6a6842a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585250
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 9:32:00 AM UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
> Faith
> 
> faith
> 
> 
> noun: faith
> 
>     1.
>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
> 
> 
> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith
> 
> 
> 
> Like for example...
> 
> Science has faith that there is water on Mars.
> 
> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on Mars.
> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. 
> 
> 
> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in the universe.
> 
> 
> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith.
> 
> 
> Deep in the heart of all science is faith...science is based on faith.
> 
> 
> Religion too is based on faith.
> 
> 
> Faith in God? Sounds ...reasonable.

It remains to be seen if we can get space VISA, let alone citizenship ...

lb

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#586034

FromWangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com>
Date2016-06-21 14:06 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.31d34c236ed00b98c1aa@news.east.earthlink.net>
In reply to#585250
In article <5763A7C6.1F1C@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com 
says...
> 
> Faith
> 
> faith
> 
> 
> noun: faith
> 
>     1.
>     complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
> 
> 
> 
You forgot the religious version.
What you posted is the colloquial definition.

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