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Time AND Space is an Illusion

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First post2016-04-19 14:52 -0700
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  Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 14:52 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-19 16:57 -0500
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 15:38 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-19 17:44 -0500
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 19:20 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 14:39 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 23:56 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-22 12:09 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 15:58 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-20 19:31 +1000
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 11:48 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 12:27 +1000
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:10 -0400
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:26 -0700
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:44 -0400
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 23:11 -0700
                  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 23:47 -0700
                    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-22 11:57 -0700
                      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 22:55 -0700
                        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 23:29 -0700
                          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 11:58 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 15:17 +1000
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 22:56 -0700
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 02:00 -0400
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 20:52 +1000
                  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 11:23 -0400
                    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-23 13:25 +1000
                      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 01:14 -0400
                        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-23 15:32 +1000
                          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 02:19 -0400
                            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 03:43 -0700
                              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 04:11 -0700
                                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 04:25 -0700
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 15:52 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 22:35 -0700
                  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 23:36 -0700
                    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 11:53 -0700
                      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 14:49 -0700
                        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-27 00:07 -0700
                          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 00:54 -0700
                          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 11:08 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:28 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:45 -0400
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 23:18 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 11:46 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion platopes <mitchperkins7@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 19:58 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:31 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:47 -0400
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-04-20 14:00 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 22:11 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 00:27 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 02:13 -0700

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#574002

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-28 11:08 -0700
Message-ID<572251A7.7B9C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#573646
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > what you people don't understand is...
> >
> > Einstein made a mistake when he came out with the first
> > theory of relativity..
> > he corrected it with the second theory of relativity.
> >
> > The first one is based on Philosophy..
> >
> > The second one is based on Physics.
> >
> > Answer this question...Which theory of relativity is Albert Einstein's greatest work, the first one, or the second one?
> 
> tough question, eh?
> 
> How about
> Which theory of relativity does einstein thoughts go with...the people (philosophy) one or the other one?
> 
> "twins paradox"
> 
> if a man falls freely, he does not feel his own weight.
> 
> “Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.”.
> 
> Even Einstein himself would admit Time is an illusion...that would make his first theory...an illusion.
> 
> It's possible..that Einstein didn't learn physics until *after* his first theory. He first learn Kant...then learn Newton, right?
> 
> Kant is the first theory
> Newton is the second theory.
> 
> if a man falls freely, he does not *feel* his own weight.
> 
> Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it *seems* like a minute.
> 
> This is Philosophy, not Physics.
> 
> When are you ever going to learn?
> 
> The Starmaker
> 
> seem
> sem/
> verb
> 3rd person present: seems
> 
>     give the impression or sensation of being something.
> 
> feel
> fel/
> verb
> verb: feel; 3rd person present: feels; past tense: felt; past participle: felt; gerund or present participle: feeling
> 
> 
>     experience (an emotion or sensation).


Now,after einstein came up with the first theory, it took him ten years
to come up with the second theory...

What was he doing in those ten yers? Probably tryin to learn
physics...and math....finally he came upon, Newton.

What is the connection between Newton and einstein's second theory?

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#572009

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-20 21:28 -0700
Message-ID<571856FA.6690@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#571982
Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>
> >> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> >>>
> >>> and that's that!
> >>>
> >>> any questions?
> >>>
> >>
> >> What are you on?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> >
> > Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else?
> >
> 
> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an
> appearance that differs significantly from its reality.
> 
> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question.
> 
> Sylvia.


The reality is...it's an illusion.

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#572015

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-21 00:45 -0400
Message-ID<57185af0$0$46736$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#572009
On 04/21/2016 12:28 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>
>> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> and that's that!
>>>>>
>>>>> any questions?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What are you on?
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else?
>>>
>>
>> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an
>> appearance that differs significantly from its reality.
>>
>> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
>
> The reality is...it's an illusion.
>
The reality, Starfaker, is your intelligence is an illusion.

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#572036

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-20 23:18 -0700
Message-ID<571870D0.83F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#571982
Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>
> >> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> >>>
> >>> and that's that!
> >>>
> >>> any questions?
> >>>
> >>
> >> What are you on?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> >
> > Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else?
> >
> 
> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an
> appearance that differs significantly from its reality.

So, your name Sylvia differs significantly from its reality...



> 
> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question.
> 
> Sylvia.


If time is an illusion...spacetime is an illusion. You cannot seperate
space from time.


So, space and time don't exist.

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#571904

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-20 11:46 -0700
Message-ID<5717CE71.2594@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#571686
mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> 
> W dniu wtorek, 19 kwietnia 2016 23:51:40 UTC+2 użytkownik The Starmaker napisał:
> > Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> >
> > and that's that!
> >
> > any questions?
> 
> No, they're not. You can see an illusion, but
> You've never seen time or space.


"You can see an illusion"????


per·cep·tion
p?r'sepSH(?)n/
noun
noun: perception; plural noun: perceptions

    the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses.


il·lu·sion
i'lo?oZH?n/
noun
noun: illusion; plural noun: illusions

    a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses.




I'm trying to give physics lessons, but I find myself having to constantly give English lessons...



you guys in the science class skip all the other courses in skool...probably gym too!

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#571993

Fromplatopes <mitchperkins7@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-20 19:58 -0700
Message-ID<986a4a5f-fe22-49b9-936b-d3ede5b84095@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571904
> > > Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> > >
> > > and that's that!
> > >
> > > any questions?
> > 
> > No, they're not. You can see an illusion, but
> > You've never seen time or space.
> 
> 
> "You can see an illusion"????
> 
> 
> per·cep·tion
> p?r'sepSH(?)n/
> noun
> noun: perception; plural noun: perceptions
> 
>     the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses.
> 
> 
> il·lu·sion
> i'lo?oZH?n/
> noun
> noun: illusion; plural noun: illusions
> 
>     a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses.
> 

What's the difference between "seeing" and "perceiving"?

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#572010

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-20 21:31 -0700
Message-ID<571857A5.40FB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#571993
platopes wrote:
> 
> > > > Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> > > >
> > > > and that's that!
> > > >
> > > > any questions?
> > >
> > > No, they're not. You can see an illusion, but
> > > You've never seen time or space.
> >
> >
> > "You can see an illusion"????
> >
> >
> > per·cep·tion
> > p?r'sepSH(?)n/
> > noun
> > noun: perception; plural noun: perceptions
> >
> >     the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses.
> >
> >
> > il·lu·sion
> > i'lo?oZH?n/
> > noun
> > noun: illusion; plural noun: illusions
> >
> >     a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses.
> >
> 
> What's the difference between "seeing" and "perceiving"?


"the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the
senses."


a blind person can perceiving.

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#572016

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-21 00:47 -0400
Message-ID<57185b5d$0$46736$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#572010
On 04/21/2016 12:31 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> platopes wrote:
>>
>>>>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> and that's that!
>>>>>
>>>>> any questions?
>>>>
>>>> No, they're not. You can see an illusion, but
>>>> You've never seen time or space.
>>>
>>>
>>> "You can see an illusion"????
>>>
>>>
>>> per·cep·tion
>>> p?r'sepSH(?)n/
>>> noun
>>> noun: perception; plural noun: perceptions
>>>
>>>      the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses.
>>>
>>>
>>> il·lu·sion
>>> i'lo?oZH?n/
>>> noun
>>> noun: illusion; plural noun: illusions
>>>
>>>      a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses.
>>>
>>
>> What's the difference between "seeing" and "perceiving"?
>
>
> "the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the
> senses."
>
>
> a blind person can perceiving.

Are you REALLY this stooopid? What are you doing trying to post in a 
science newsgroup? The "journalist", "media" and "Trekie" groups are 
over there.

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#571919

Frompcardinale@volcanomail.com
Date2016-04-20 14:00 -0700
Message-ID<7ef54529-503e-4fd4-bfe5-fb387bd29b29@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571686
On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 2:51:42 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> 
> and that's that!
> 
> any questions?

You're either taking too many drugs, or not enough.  Ask your doctor.

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#572019

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-20 22:11 -0700
Message-ID<c9b31b2a-9e1c-4a2d-9b4f-fb356dfa3e51@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571686
On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 12:51:42 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> 
> and that's that!
> 
> any questions?
====================================
time and space are not an illusion 
YET 
**CURVED SPACE TIME ''
IS A F EN  HARMFUL 


see 
the y Circlon revolutionary idea 
instead !!

space has no   properties whatsoever
except hosting mass 
while 
mass is the main 'hero ' of all  physics 

ATB
Y.Porat
=====================================

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#572040

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-21 00:27 -0700
Message-ID<571880FC.1D70@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#572019
Y.Porat wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 12:51:42 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> >
> > and that's that!
> >
> > any questions?
> ====================================
> time and space are not an illusion
> YET
> **CURVED SPACE TIME ''
> IS A F EN  HARMFUL
> 
> see
> the y Circlon revolutionary idea
> instead !!
> 
> space has no   properties whatsoever
> except hosting mass
> while
> mass is the main 'hero ' of all  physics
> 
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> =====================================


That which you call 'curved spacetime' is actually curved gravity, which is what
the properties of space is made of.

Space is made of little particles smaller than any particles seen on earth.


To say "space has no   properties whatsoever" is just the...illusion.


Just as a fish believes the world it swims in (water) has no properties whatsoever...

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#572321

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-22 02:13 -0700
Message-ID<d57b6bbe-db31-4f23-acc0-b39b4857fd54@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#572040
On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 10:27:29 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Y.Porat wrote:
> > 
> > On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 12:51:42 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> > >
> > > and that's that!
> > >
> > > any questions?
> > ====================================
> > time and space are not an illusion
> > YET
> > **CURVED SPACE TIME ''
> > IS A F EN  HARMFUL
> > 
> > see
> > the y Circlon revolutionary idea
> > instead !!
> > 
> > space has no   properties whatsoever
> > except hosting mass
> > while
> > mass is the main 'hero ' of all  physics
> > 
> > ATB
> > Y.Porat
> > =====================================
> 
> 
> That which you call 'curved spacetime' is actually curved gravity, which is what
> the properties of space is made of.
> 
> Space is made of little particles smaller than any particles seen on earth.
> 
> 
> To say "space has no   properties whatsoever" is just the...illusion.
> 
> 
> Just as a fish believes the world it swims in (water) has no properties whatsoever...


=======================
space is completely nothing by definition 

the main hero of physics 
IS THE **MASS ***THAT IS IN SPACE !!
SPADE HAS NO PROPERTIES WHATSOEVER
EXCEPT  ** HOSTING MASS *!
2
HAD THERE NOT BEEN COMPLETE EMPTY!!  LOCATIONS OF  SPACE
**NO MOTION WHATSOEVER COULD BE DONE !!!
----
no need to be a genius in order to understand it
---
old copyright s 
Y.Porat
====================

if you don t understand it
i will explain  

TIA
Y.Porat
==========================

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