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Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No?

Started byAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
First post2016-03-09 13:53 -0800
Last post2016-03-16 14:46 -0500
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  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-09 13:53 -0800
    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-10 17:02 -0600
      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-11 01:25 -0800
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-11 11:36 -0800
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-12 07:38 -0600
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-13 09:57 -0700
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Earle Jones27 <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2016-03-13 11:32 -0700
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-14 16:33 -0500
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-14 14:42 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-15 07:00 -0500
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-15 12:07 -0400
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-16 14:46 -0500
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-16 17:23 -0400
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-17 12:32 -0500
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-17 16:30 -0400
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-18 15:46 -0500
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-19 04:14 -0400
                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-19 08:10 -0500
                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-19 17:21 -0400
                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-20 09:47 -0500
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-20 11:06 -0400
                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-20 15:49 -0500
                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-20 23:28 -0400
                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-21 17:35 -0500
                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-22 04:12 -0400
                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-22 07:02 -0500
                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-22 20:49 +0000
                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-23 07:01 -0500
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-23 18:20 +0000
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-24 08:16 -0500
                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-24 18:17 +0000
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-24 15:57 -0500
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-25 19:09 +0000
                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-26 12:08 -0500
                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-26 19:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-03-26 13:50 -0600
                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-28 16:20 -0500
                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-29 22:39 +0000
                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-30 11:15 -0500
                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-30 18:11 +0000
                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-31 07:03 -0500
                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-31 17:45 +0000
                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-31 15:16 -0500
                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-01 20:59 +0000
                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-01 16:13 -0500
                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-01 16:23 -0500
                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-01 16:22 -0500
                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-01 23:21 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-02 19:38 +0000
                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-03 08:30 -0500
                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-03 23:46 +0000
                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-04 13:19 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-05 00:54 +0000
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                                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-05 17:16 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-05 13:50 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-05 19:23 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-05 15:35 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-06 11:31 -0500
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                                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-05 15:25 -0500
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                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-08 13:01 -0500
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                                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-05 18:44 +0000
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-24 15:53 -0700
                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-27 04:16 -0400
                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-27 04:15 -0700
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-28 04:01 -0400
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-28 13:59 -0700
                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-28 16:23 -0500
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-28 16:57 -0700
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-29 14:17 -0500
                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-28 18:47 -0400
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-28 16:56 -0700
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-29 04:40 -0400
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                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-30 04:58 -0400
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                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:41 -0400
                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-31 07:04 -0500
                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 17:11 -0400
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                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-01 23:25 -0400
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                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-02 10:59 -0400
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                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-05 13:52 -0400
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                                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-04-08 16:28 -0500
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                                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-09 07:54 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-10 05:34 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-10 15:01 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-11 05:17 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-11 16:27 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-11 18:42 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-12 07:45 -0500
                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> - 2016-04-06 15:25 +0100
                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-06 11:36 -0500
                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-09 07:57 -0500
                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 14:33 -0600
                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 09:20 -0500
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-28 16:23 -0500
                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 16:22 -0600
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-29 14:21 -0500
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> - 2016-04-06 15:26 +0100
                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-06 11:36 -0500
                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-28 18:50 -0400
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-28 17:02 -0700
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-29 04:43 -0400
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-28 16:22 -0500
                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-28 16:21 -0500
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-28 18:52 -0400
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-29 14:22 -0500
                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-30 05:02 -0400
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-30 11:25 -0500
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 09:50 -0700
                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-31 07:11 -0500
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:47 -0400
                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-31 07:12 -0500
                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-31 17:26 +0000
                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-31 17:26 +0000
                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-31 15:22 -0500
                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-01 20:46 +0000
                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-01 15:55 -0500
                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-01 16:32 -0500
                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-01 16:30 -0500
                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-01 23:17 +0000
                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-02 07:38 -0500
                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-02 19:32 +0000
                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-03 08:37 -0500
                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-03 17:07 +0000
                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-04 13:24 -0500
                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-05 00:46 +0000
                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-05 00:07 -0700
                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-05 00:23 -0700
                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-09 16:54 -0700
                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-05 08:34 -0500
                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-05 18:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-08 17:11 +0000
                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-08 13:51 -0500
                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-09 19:02 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 09:26 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Ted Street <ted.smasher@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 14:38 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 14:39 -0500
                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-31 17:30 +0000
                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 17:17 -0400
                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-01 16:32 -0500
                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-01 23:27 -0400
                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-04-02 04:25 -0700
                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-02 07:39 -0500
                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-02 11:03 -0400
                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-04-02 09:48 -0700
                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-02 16:14 -0400
                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-02 23:16 +0000
                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-02 21:43 -0500
                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Apollo <nowhere@def.com> - 2016-04-02 22:17 -0600
                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-03 00:09 -0500
                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-04-02 23:30 -0600
                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-03 00:45 -0500
                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-04-02 23:39 -0700
                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Apollo <nowhere@def.com> - 2016-04-03 03:01 -0600
                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-03 08:40 -0500
                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-03 17:00 +0000
                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-03 08:38 -0500
                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-03 17:18 -0400
                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-02 07:38 -0500
                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-02 11:06 -0400
                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-03 08:40 -0500
                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-03 17:19 -0400
                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-04 13:24 -0500
                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-04 15:20 -0400
                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-05 08:35 -0500
                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-05 15:11 -0400
                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-06 11:37 -0500
                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-07 04:54 -0400
                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-07 12:09 -0500
                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-08 04:16 -0400
                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-08 13:51 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-09 04:50 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-09 07:58 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-10 05:35 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 09:27 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-10 15:02 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 14:40 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-11 05:19 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-11 16:28 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-11 18:43 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-12 07:49 -0500
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-15 10:00 -0700
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 11:19 -0700
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-16 14:46 -0500

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#567573

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-04-02 23:16 +0000
Message-ID<ndpjsi$15fs$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#567498
On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:

> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> 
>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
>> attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of supporting
>> evidence is that of non-existence.
> 
> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted position in
> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of knowledge.
> Unless you are compelled to make a decision on incomplete information,
> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.

Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the bottom of 
your garden?

> You leap ahead, pronouncing your truth with no evidence, completely
> oblivious, even to this point, that you do exactly what Duke does.

It is the falsifiable position, unlike Duke's.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#567590

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-04-02 21:43 -0500
Message-ID<g401gb1305o5gvrkq24e452fk5jj1ml1n7@4ax.com>
In reply to#567573
On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:
>
>> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
>>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> 
>>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
>>> attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of supporting
>>> evidence is that of non-existence.
>> 
>> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted position in

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaha...........

This moron lacks the skill set to understand why he is wrong.

>> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of knowledge.
>> Unless you are compelled to make a decision on incomplete information,
>> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.
>
>Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the bottom of 
>your garden?

The moron is too stupid to understand that it is merely somebody
else's baseless belief, and that the only rational position is treat
it as false until demonstrated to be true.

He also stupidly assigns "don't know" to everything that isn't an
absolute certainty, however improbable it is.

>> You leap ahead, pronouncing your truth with no evidence, completely
>> oblivious, even to this point, that you do exactly what Duke does.

What a fuckiing moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>It is the falsifiable position, unlike Duke's.

The loonies are either too sttupid to understand this, or they pretend
they don't because they are trolling and picking arguments with people
who have more important things to do.

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#567599

FromApollo <nowhere@def.com>
Date2016-04-02 22:17 -0600
Message-ID<nowhere-4F3013.22173702042016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#567590
In article <g401gb1305o5gvrkq24e452fk5jj1ml1n7@4ax.com>,
 Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:
> >
> >> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
> >>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
> >>> attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of supporting
> >>> evidence is that of non-existence.
> >> 
> >> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted position in
> 
> Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaha...........
> 
> This moron lacks the skill set to understand why he is wrong.
> 
> >> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of knowledge.
> >> Unless you are compelled to make a decision on incomplete information,
> >> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.
> >
> >Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the bottom of 
> >your garden?
> 
> The moron is too stupid to understand that it is merely somebody
> else's baseless belief, and that the only rational position is treat
> it as false until demonstrated to be true.

The only rational position is treat any claim, and its negation as 
UNPROVEN, but not necessarily as false, until one of them is supported 
by enough evidence to justify its acceptance!

This is the position taken by both mathematics and science!
 
But unfortunately not by religions.

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#567604

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-04-03 00:09 -0500
Message-ID<c391gbhp8m29c1mdngmgtr8ivlmq80ojod@4ax.com>
In reply to#567599
On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 22:17:37 -0600, Apollo <nowhere@def.com> wrote:

>In article <g401gb1305o5gvrkq24e452fk5jj1ml1n7@4ax.com>,
> Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
>> >>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
>> >>> attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of supporting
>> >>> evidence is that of non-existence.
>> >> 
>> >> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted position in
>> 
>> Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaha...........
>> 
>> This moron lacks the skill set to understand why he is wrong.
>> 
>> >> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of knowledge.
>> >> Unless you are compelled to make a decision on incomplete information,
>> >> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.
>> >
>> >Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the bottom of 
>> >your garden?
>> 
>> The moron is too stupid to understand that it is merely somebody
>> else's baseless belief, and that the only rational position is treat
>> it as false until demonstrated to be true.
>
>The only rational position is treat any claim, and its negation as 
>UNPROVEN, but not necessarily as false, until one of them is supported 
>by enough evidence to justify its acceptance!

Except that this treats the highly improbable and the highly probable,
equally - because they're both unproven.
 
>This is the position taken by both mathematics and science!
> 
>But unfortunately not by religions.

Never heard of Popperian falsifiability?

Which simply formalised the "no, it isnt - prove it" people who aren't
gullible have been using for a long time.

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#567609

FromVirgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com>
Date2016-04-02 23:30 -0600
Message-ID<VIRGIL-F445ED.23304702042016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#567604
In article <c391gbhp8m29c1mdngmgtr8ivlmq80ojod@4ax.com>,
 Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 22:17:37 -0600, Apollo <nowhere@def.com> wrote:
> 
> >In article <g401gb1305o5gvrkq24e452fk5jj1ml1n7@4ax.com>,
> > Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
> >> >>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
> >> >>> attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of 
> >> >>> supporting
> >> >>> evidence is that of non-existence.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted position 
> >> >> in
> >> 
> >> Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaha...........
> >> 
> >> This moron lacks the skill set to understand why he is wrong.
> >> 
> >> >> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of knowledge.
> >> >> Unless you are compelled to make a decision on incomplete information,
> >> >> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.
> >> >
> >> >Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the bottom 
> >> >of 
> >> >your garden?
> >> 
> >> The moron is too stupid to understand that it is merely somebody
> >> else's baseless belief, and that the only rational position is treat
> >> it as false until demonstrated to be true.
> >
> >The only rational position is treat any claim, and its negation as 
> >UNPROVEN, but not necessarily as false, until one of them is supported 
> >by enough evidence to justify its acceptance!
> 
> Except that this treats the highly improbable and the highly probable,
> equally - because they're both unproven.

Each is treated by scientists, quite properly, according to the amount 
of evidence for it or against it. If others choose to apply different 
and less sensible standards, that is their loss.
>  
> >This is the position taken by both mathematics and science!
> > 
> >But unfortunately not by religions.
> 
> Never heard of Popperian falsifiability?

It is one, but not the only, form of disproof.
A clear rule is disproved by a single clearly contrary instance!
But is not proved merely by absence of such an instance, but requires 
also confirming evidence.
-- 
Virgil
"Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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#567617

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-04-03 00:45 -0500
Message-ID<1va1gb5c0gqhovjudsn1v15lcf6d8vh8ag@4ax.com>
In reply to#567609
On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 23:30:47 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

>In article <c391gbhp8m29c1mdngmgtr8ivlmq80ojod@4ax.com>,
> Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 22:17:37 -0600, Apollo <nowhere@def.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <g401gb1305o5gvrkq24e452fk5jj1ml1n7@4ax.com>,
>> > Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
>> >> >>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
>> >> >>> attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of 
>> >> >>> supporting
>> >> >>> evidence is that of non-existence.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted position 
>> >> >> in
>> >> 
>> >> Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaha...........
>> >> 
>> >> This moron lacks the skill set to understand why he is wrong.
>> >> 
>> >> >> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of knowledge.
>> >> >> Unless you are compelled to make a decision on incomplete information,
>> >> >> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.
>> >> >
>> >> >Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the bottom 
>> >> >of 
>> >> >your garden?
>> >> 
>> >> The moron is too stupid to understand that it is merely somebody
>> >> else's baseless belief, and that the only rational position is treat
>> >> it as false until demonstrated to be true.
>> >
>> >The only rational position is treat any claim, and its negation as 
>> >UNPROVEN, but not necessarily as false, until one of them is supported 
>> >by enough evidence to justify its acceptance!
>> 
>> Except that this treats the highly improbable and the highly probable,
>> equally - because they're both unproven.
>
>Each is treated by scientists, quite properly, according to the amount 
>of evidence for it or against it. If others choose to apply different 
>and less sensible standards, that is their loss.

But they're the ones accusing those who take this into account, of
being unreasonable - they're simplistic thinkers who see everything in
terms of black and white with a single shade of grey that is a
mid-point "don't know". 

It's the "don't know" which is the problem - because it is then taken
as "we don't know anything".
   
>> >This is the position taken by both mathematics and science!
>> > 
>> >But unfortunately not by religions.
>> 
>> Never heard of Popperian falsifiability?
>
>It is one, but not the only, form of disproof.

It doesn't attempt to prove or disprove anything. The disproof comes
later, and the "no it isn't" stands until then.

It's the default for unsupported claims.

Because while you can't (in the general case) prove a negative, you
can prove the positive.

So new claims are rephrased in the negative, and falsified by
"proving" the positive.

But the Liars For God tell you this is faith.

>A clear rule is disproved by a single clearly contrary instance!
>But is not proved merely by absence of such an instance, but requires 
>also confirming evidence.

And?

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#567626

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 23:39 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-F9BC4A.23392102042016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#567599
In article <nowhere-4F3013.22173702042016@news.giganews.com>,
 Apollo <nowhere@def.com> wrote:

> In article <g401gb1305o5gvrkq24e452fk5jj1ml1n7@4ax.com>,
>  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
> > >>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
> > >>> attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of supporting
> > >>> evidence is that of non-existence.
> > >> 
> > >> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted position in
> > 
> > Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaha...........
> > 
> > This moron lacks the skill set to understand why he is wrong.
> > 
> > >> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of knowledge.
> > >> Unless you are compelled to make a decision on incomplete information,
> > >> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.
> > >
> > >Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the bottom of 
> > >your garden?
> > 
> > The moron is too stupid to understand that it is merely somebody
> > else's baseless belief, and that the only rational position is treat
> > it as false until demonstrated to be true.
> 
> The only rational position is treat any claim, and its negation as 
> UNPROVEN, but not necessarily as false, until one of them is supported 
> by enough evidence to justify its acceptance!
> 
> This is the position taken by both mathematics and science!
>  
> But unfortunately not by religions.

It's exactly the position taken by most atheists.

-- 

JD

"If ANYONE will not welcome you or listen to 
your words, LEAVE that home or town and shake 
the dust off your feet." Matthew 10:14

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#567658

FromApollo <nowhere@def.com>
Date2016-04-03 03:01 -0600
Message-ID<nowhere-6E5E87.03011703042016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#567626
In article <hlwdjsd2-F9BC4A.23392102042016@news.giganews.com>,
 Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article <nowhere-4F3013.22173702042016@news.giganews.com>,
>  Apollo <nowhere@def.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <g401gb1305o5gvrkq24e452fk5jj1ml1n7@4ax.com>,
> >  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > >On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
> > > >>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
> > > >>> attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of 
> > > >>> supporting
> > > >>> evidence is that of non-existence.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted position 
> > > >> in
> > > 
> > > Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaha...........
> > > 
> > > This moron lacks the skill set to understand why he is wrong.
> > > 
> > > >> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of knowledge.
> > > >> Unless you are compelled to make a decision on incomplete information,
> > > >> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.
> > > >
> > > >Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the bottom 
> > > >of 
> > > >your garden?
> > > 
> > > The moron is too stupid to understand that it is merely somebody
> > > else's baseless belief, and that the only rational position is treat
> > > it as false until demonstrated to be true.
> > 
> > The only rational position is treat any claim, and its negation as 
> > UNPROVEN, but not necessarily as false, until one of them is supported 
> > by enough evidence to justify its acceptance!
> > 
> > This is the position taken by both mathematics and science!
> >  
> > But unfortunately not by religions.
> 
> It's exactly the position taken by most atheists. 

And one notes that the proportion of scientists and mathematicians who 
are atheistic, or at least not theistic, is much higher than the 
proportion in more general populations!

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#567672

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-04-03 08:40 -0500
Message-ID<c772gb5b1jhle5bkubkeshqmruio5mkjht@4ax.com>
In reply to#567658
On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 03:01:17 -0600, Apollo <nowhere@def.com> wrote:

>In article <hlwdjsd2-F9BC4A.23392102042016@news.giganews.com>,
> Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <nowhere-4F3013.22173702042016@news.giganews.com>,
>>  Apollo <nowhere@def.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <g401gb1305o5gvrkq24e452fk5jj1ml1n7@4ax.com>,
>> >  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > >On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
>> > > >>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> > > >> 
>> > > >>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
>> > > >>> attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of 
>> > > >>> supporting
>> > > >>> evidence is that of non-existence.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted position 
>> > > >> in
>> > > 
>> > > Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaha...........
>> > > 
>> > > This moron lacks the skill set to understand why he is wrong.
>> > > 
>> > > >> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of knowledge.
>> > > >> Unless you are compelled to make a decision on incomplete information,
>> > > >> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.
>> > > >
>> > > >Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the bottom 
>> > > >of 
>> > > >your garden?
>> > > 
>> > > The moron is too stupid to understand that it is merely somebody
>> > > else's baseless belief, and that the only rational position is treat
>> > > it as false until demonstrated to be true.
>> > 
>> > The only rational position is treat any claim, and its negation as 
>> > UNPROVEN, but not necessarily as false, until one of them is supported 
>> > by enough evidence to justify its acceptance!
>> > 
>> > This is the position taken by both mathematics and science!
>> >  
>> > But unfortunately not by religions.
>> 
>> It's exactly the position taken by most atheists. 
>
>And one notes that the proportion of scientists and mathematicians who 
>are atheistic, or at least not theistic, is much higher than the 
>proportion in more general populations!

None of which are God.  No man has ever seen or defined God.  So I don't see
scientists trying to address that which is not-knowing.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#567702

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-04-03 17:00 +0000
Message-ID<ndri6o$1vf1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#567672
On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 08:40:11 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 03:01:17 -0600, Apollo <nowhere@def.com> wrote:
> 
>>In article <hlwdjsd2-F9BC4A.23392102042016@news.giganews.com>,
>> Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <nowhere-4F3013.22173702042016@news.giganews.com>,
>>>  Apollo <nowhere@def.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > In article <g401gb1305o5gvrkq24e452fk5jj1ml1n7@4ax.com>,
>>> >  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:16:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > 
>>> > > >On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:48:55 -0700, je suis charly wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> In article <ujnvfbl7q0ja07lefag5amrl1fo2p2fv5f@4ax.com>,
>>> > > >>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>> > > >> 
>>> > > >>> No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic'
>>> > > >>> you may attempt the fact is that the best position in the
>>> > > >>> absence of supporting evidence is that of non-existence.
>>> > > >> 
>>> > > >> Actually, my sad Dunning-Kruger victim, the least convoluted
>>> > > >> position in
>>> > > 
>>> > > Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaha...........
>>> > > 
>>> > > This moron lacks the skill set to understand why he is wrong.
>>> > > 
>>> > > >> the absence of knowledge is to acknowledge the absence of
>>> > > >> knowledge. Unless you are compelled to make a decision on
>>> > > >> incomplete information,
>>> > > >> wisdom dictates defering the decision. You have no wisdom.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >Do you defer the decision as to whether there are fairies at the
>>> > > >bottom of your garden?
>>> > > 
>>> > > The moron is too stupid to understand that it is merely somebody
>>> > > else's baseless belief, and that the only rational position is
>>> > > treat it as false until demonstrated to be true.
>>> > 
>>> > The only rational position is treat any claim, and its negation as
>>> > UNPROVEN, but not necessarily as false, until one of them is
>>> > supported by enough evidence to justify its acceptance!
>>> > 
>>> > This is the position taken by both mathematics and science!
>>> >  
>>> > But unfortunately not by religions.
>>> 
>>> It's exactly the position taken by most atheists.
>>
>>And one notes that the proportion of scientists and mathematicians who
>>are atheistic, or at least not theistic, is much higher than the
>>proportion in more general populations!
> 
> None of which are God.  No man has ever seen or defined God.

Which are excellent grounds for denying its supposed existence.

> So I don't see scientists trying to address that which is not-knowing.

Scientists don't address you, Earl, because you are not knowing.

> the dukester, The Not Knowing American

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#567671

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-04-03 08:38 -0500
Message-ID<c572gb9u2offsli15fn0baigcp9srq8se7@4ax.com>
In reply to#567457
On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 11:03:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 04:25:00 -0700, je suis charly
><charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
><charlie-gordon1492-A7934F.04250002042016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <queufb970qfk8slsfshrupv29uvpqpkjda@4ax.com>,
>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>> Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>>> they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>>> should be ignored.
>>
>>Non sequitur. Absence of evidence means absence of evidence. It does not mean 
>>nonexistence. However due to the Dunning-Kruger effect you lack the logic to 
>>understand how your logic is lacking. You are incapable learning from your error.
>
>No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
>attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of
>supporting evidence is that of non-existence.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.  You really think you're going to escape the flames, don't you.

>The lack of evidence does not prove non-existence, but the claim of
>existence with no supporting evidence does zero as far as supporting
>that existence is concerned.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#567729

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-04-03 17:18 -0400
Message-ID<d323gb5vmdr8o86vimbblssg7u3v0b0bp4@4ax.com>
In reply to#567671
On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 08:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<c572gb9u2offsli15fn0baigcp9srq8se7@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 11:03:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 04:25:00 -0700, je suis charly
>><charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
>><charlie-gordon1492-A7934F.04250002042016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <queufb970qfk8slsfshrupv29uvpqpkjda@4ax.com>,
>>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>>>> they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>>>> should be ignored.
>>>
>>>Non sequitur. Absence of evidence means absence of evidence. It does not mean 
>>>nonexistence. However due to the Dunning-Kruger effect you lack the logic to 
>>>understand how your logic is lacking. You are incapable learning from your error.
>>
>>No error is involved.  No matter how much convoluted 'logic' you may
>>attempt the fact is that the best position in the absence of
>>supporting evidence is that of non-existence.
>
>Tsk, tsk, tsk.  You really think you're going to escape the flames, don't you.

I have seen no evidence they exist.

>
>>The lack of evidence does not prove non-existence, but the claim of
>>existence with no supporting evidence does zero as far as supporting
>>that existence is concerned.
>


--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#567421

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-04-02 07:38 -0500
Message-ID<u9fvfbtpat6m9mm9gc1ve0h8cq79pmdedp@4ax.com>
In reply to#567365
On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:27:27 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:32:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><s6qtfb1pueel5llf85k8292kv5b43ggvsr@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>>>You actually have the most damning of them all - that you won't be judged by God
>>>>for your support of murdering the human unborn.
>>>>
>>>
>>>As I haves said many times, threats based upon your superstitions mean
>>>nothing to me.  No matter how many times you repeat them.
>>
>>They are not threats.  They are promises from God.
>
>Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>should be ignored.

I have.  And you sure can't show me I'm wrong.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#567458

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-04-02 11:06 -0400
Message-ID<qrnvfbd9pd7cd3fenovdl1eq8j39dutjur@4ax.com>
In reply to#567421
On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:38:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<u9fvfbtpat6m9mm9gc1ve0h8cq79pmdedp@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:27:27 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:32:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><s6qtfb1pueel5llf85k8292kv5b43ggvsr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>You actually have the most damning of them all - that you won't be judged by God
>>>>>for your support of murdering the human unborn.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As I haves said many times, threats based upon your superstitions mean
>>>>nothing to me.  No matter how many times you repeat them.
>>>
>>>They are not threats.  They are promises from God.
>>
>>Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>>they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>>should be ignored.
>
>I have.  And you sure can't show me I'm wrong.
>

I have no interest in showing you right or wrong.  However, I have
shown that you have never ever provided any actual evidence to support
your position that is not so arbitrary and non-specific as to be
useless.   I expect to continue doing this.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#567673

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-04-03 08:40 -0500
Message-ID<2a72gbpltm6pgs1v71a3phv7q9ckf4ok7r@4ax.com>
In reply to#567458
On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 11:06:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:38:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><u9fvfbtpat6m9mm9gc1ve0h8cq79pmdedp@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:27:27 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:32:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><s6qtfb1pueel5llf85k8292kv5b43ggvsr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>You actually have the most damning of them all - that you won't be judged by God
>>>>>>for your support of murdering the human unborn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>As I haves said many times, threats based upon your superstitions mean
>>>>>nothing to me.  No matter how many times you repeat them.
>>>>
>>>>They are not threats.  They are promises from God.
>>>
>>>Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>>>they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>>>should be ignored.
>>
>>I have.  And you sure can't show me I'm wrong.
>>
>
>I have no interest in showing you right or wrong. 

But I am interested in trying to help you avoid the hellfires.

>However, I have
>shown that you have never ever provided any actual evidence to support
>your position that is not so arbitrary and non-specific as to be
>useless.   I expect to continue doing this.

Me too.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#567730

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-04-03 17:19 -0400
Message-ID<v423gblatjrffpoh9he03p9teeiubgbpta@4ax.com>
In reply to#567673
On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 08:40:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<2a72gbpltm6pgs1v71a3phv7q9ckf4ok7r@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 11:06:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:38:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><u9fvfbtpat6m9mm9gc1ve0h8cq79pmdedp@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:27:27 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:32:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><s6qtfb1pueel5llf85k8292kv5b43ggvsr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>You actually have the most damning of them all - that you won't be judged by God
>>>>>>>for your support of murdering the human unborn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As I haves said many times, threats based upon your superstitions mean
>>>>>>nothing to me.  No matter how many times you repeat them.
>>>>>
>>>>>They are not threats.  They are promises from God.
>>>>
>>>>Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>>>>they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>>>>should be ignored.
>>>
>>>I have.  And you sure can't show me I'm wrong.
>>>
>>
>>I have no interest in showing you right or wrong. 
>
>But I am interested in trying to help you avoid the hellfires.

I still have seen no evidence they even exist.

>
>>However, I have
>>shown that you have never ever provided any actual evidence to support
>>your position that is not so arbitrary and non-specific as to be
>>useless.   I expect to continue doing this.
>
>Me too.
>


--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#567881

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-04-04 13:24 -0500
Message-ID<mac5gb5onur06rkkcgdok9qesal55pmfud@4ax.com>
In reply to#567730
On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 17:19:17 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 08:40:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><2a72gbpltm6pgs1v71a3phv7q9ckf4ok7r@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 11:06:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:38:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><u9fvfbtpat6m9mm9gc1ve0h8cq79pmdedp@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:27:27 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:32:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><s6qtfb1pueel5llf85k8292kv5b43ggvsr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You actually have the most damning of them all - that you won't be judged by God
>>>>>>>>for your support of murdering the human unborn.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As I haves said many times, threats based upon your superstitions mean
>>>>>>>nothing to me.  No matter how many times you repeat them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They are not threats.  They are promises from God.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>>>>>they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>>>>>should be ignored.
>>>>
>>>>I have.  And you sure can't show me I'm wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I have no interest in showing you right or wrong. 
>>
>>But I am interested in trying to help you avoid the hellfires.
>
>I still have seen no evidence they even exist.
 
Light a match and put it under your wrist.  Then you'll know.


the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#567902

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-04-04 15:20 -0400
Message-ID<7ef5gbhng3q5vqekr33u42isn3vauiqivh@4ax.com>
In reply to#567881
On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 13:24:56 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<mac5gb5onur06rkkcgdok9qesal55pmfud@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 17:19:17 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 08:40:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><2a72gbpltm6pgs1v71a3phv7q9ckf4ok7r@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 11:06:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:38:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><u9fvfbtpat6m9mm9gc1ve0h8cq79pmdedp@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:27:27 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:32:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><s6qtfb1pueel5llf85k8292kv5b43ggvsr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You actually have the most damning of them all - that you won't be judged by God
>>>>>>>>>for your support of murdering the human unborn.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>As I haves said many times, threats based upon your superstitions mean
>>>>>>>>nothing to me.  No matter how many times you repeat them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They are not threats.  They are promises from God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>>>>>>they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>>>>>>should be ignored.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have.  And you sure can't show me I'm wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have no interest in showing you right or wrong. 
>>>
>>>But I am interested in trying to help you avoid the hellfires.
>>
>>I still have seen no evidence they even exist.
> 
>Light a match and put it under your wrist.  Then you'll know.
>
I freely admit combustion occurs.  It is this often mentioned but
elusive hellfire I question.  It apparently is another name for what
is used to light a cigarette and is available in paper packets of
twenty or so in many places.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#568030

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-04-05 08:35 -0500
Message-ID<jnf7gbl3b5torpaf4ja55t8ltkeabcq2e5@4ax.com>
In reply to#567902
On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 15:20:01 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 13:24:56 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><mac5gb5onur06rkkcgdok9qesal55pmfud@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 17:19:17 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 08:40:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><2a72gbpltm6pgs1v71a3phv7q9ckf4ok7r@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 11:06:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:38:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><u9fvfbtpat6m9mm9gc1ve0h8cq79pmdedp@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:27:27 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:32:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><s6qtfb1pueel5llf85k8292kv5b43ggvsr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You actually have the most damning of them all - that you won't be judged by God
>>>>>>>>>>for your support of murdering the human unborn.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>As I haves said many times, threats based upon your superstitions mean
>>>>>>>>>nothing to me.  No matter how many times you repeat them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>They are not threats.  They are promises from God.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>>>>>>>they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>>>>>>>should be ignored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have.  And you sure can't show me I'm wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have no interest in showing you right or wrong. 
>>>>
>>>>But I am interested in trying to help you avoid the hellfires.
>>>
>>>I still have seen no evidence they even exist.
>> 
>>Light a match and put it under your wrist.  Then you'll know.

>I freely admit combustion occurs.  It is this often mentioned but
>elusive hellfire I question.  It apparently is another name for what
>is used to light a cigarette and is available in paper packets of
>twenty or so in many places.

In hell, you don't need to bring your own matches.  After all, YOU.......are the
fuel.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#568088

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-04-05 15:11 -0400
Message-ID<vd38gbl2ajp8tjvt4p1kla1jqur5sfnv6i@4ax.com>
In reply to#568030
On Tue, 05 Apr 2016 08:35:40 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<jnf7gbl3b5torpaf4ja55t8ltkeabcq2e5@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 15:20:01 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 13:24:56 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><mac5gb5onur06rkkcgdok9qesal55pmfud@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 17:19:17 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 08:40:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><2a72gbpltm6pgs1v71a3phv7q9ckf4ok7r@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 11:06:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:38:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><u9fvfbtpat6m9mm9gc1ve0h8cq79pmdedp@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:27:27 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:32:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>><s6qtfb1pueel5llf85k8292kv5b43ggvsr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You actually have the most damning of them all - that you won't be judged by God
>>>>>>>>>>>for your support of murdering the human unborn.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>As I haves said many times, threats based upon your superstitions mean
>>>>>>>>>>nothing to me.  No matter how many times you repeat them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>They are not threats.  They are promises from God.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Since no one has ever provided any evidence that any god ever existed
>>>>>>>>they are obviously nothing more than the usual empty threats and
>>>>>>>>should be ignored.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have.  And you sure can't show me I'm wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have no interest in showing you right or wrong. 
>>>>>
>>>>>But I am interested in trying to help you avoid the hellfires.
>>>>
>>>>I still have seen no evidence they even exist.
>>> 
>>>Light a match and put it under your wrist.  Then you'll know.
>
>>I freely admit combustion occurs.  It is this often mentioned but
>>elusive hellfire I question.  It apparently is another name for what
>>is used to light a cigarette and is available in paper packets of
>>twenty or so in many places.
>
>In hell, you don't need to bring your own matches.  After all, YOU.......are the
>fuel.
>

More threats from your superstition.  That seems to be quite common.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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