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  How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-12 08:10 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 10:17 -0600
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-01-12 10:37 -0600
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-14 11:47 -0800
    How Did God Create The Universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 08:26 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-01-12 17:36 +0100
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-01-12 17:25 +0000
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:53 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? "walkslaone" <no@one.here> - 2016-01-12 12:24 -0600
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 13:08 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2016-01-13 05:00 -0800
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2016-01-13 13:53 -0600
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-01-15 08:44 -0500
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-01-12 12:31 -0600
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 04:39 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2016-01-13 04:28 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-01-13 05:38 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 09:24 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 09:45 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 18:00 -0500
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 15:15 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-01-15 06:59 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-14 11:07 +1100
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 19:17 -0500
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-14 16:23 +1100
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 16:27 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-14 00:32 +0000
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-14 00:34 +0000
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-14 00:44 +0000
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2016-01-14 12:51 +1100
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-01-14 04:49 -0700
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-14 11:49 -0800
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-01-15 00:58 -0600
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-14 16:27 +1100
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-13 22:21 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? emptypost@hotmail.com - 2016-01-13 21:56 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-13 22:09 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-13 22:40 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-13 22:49 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-14 12:12 -0800
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-14 22:12 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 12:37 -0800

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#545208

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 9:24:37 AM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 5:38:09 AM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 11:10:15 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > How Did God Create The Universe?
> > > 
> > > This is a question everybody seems to
> > > want to know...
> > > How Did God Create The Universe?
> > 
> > God Created the universe as described in the following link:
> > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2011unverse.pdf
> > 
> > > 
> > > They want to know what materials He used.
> > > They want to know did He used computers?
> > > They want to know did He used machines to
> > > create the earth and the universe?
> > > They want to know exactly what process He used
> > > to create the earth and everything in it, including
> > > the whole entire universe!
> > > 
> > > They want to know...
> > > How Did God Create The Universe?
> > > 
> > > They want to know...
> > > How Did He Create The Universe?
> > > 
> > > They want you to explain it all how He did it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To be continued...
> 
> Universe created by compression of energy.Thus BB was an implosion.TreBert

Universes are gems,and all gems are created with pressure.Getr thge picture  TreBert

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#545615

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 11:10:15 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> > 
> > This is a question everybody seems to
> > want to know...
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> 
> God Created the universe as described in the following link:
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2011unverse.pdf

I don't know why the above link doesn't work. The exact same link below works fine.
http://www.modelmechanics.org/2011universe.pdf


> 
> > 
> > They want to know what materials He used.
> > They want to know did He used computers?
> > They want to know did He used machines to
> > create the earth and the universe?
> > They want to know exactly what process He used
> > to create the earth and everything in it, including
> > the whole entire universe!
> > 
> > They want to know...
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> > 
> > They want to know...
> > How Did He Create The Universe?
> > 
> > They want you to explain it all how He did it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To be continued...

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#545216

On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> How Did God Create The Universe?
>
> This is a question everybody seems to
> want to know...

I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did 
not create the universe.

Sylvia.

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#545218

On 01/13/2016 07:07 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>
>> This is a question everybody seems to
>> want to know...
>
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.
>
> Sylvia.
>
Well, Shit! "Sylvia" is "pretty sure" that there is no God and I think 
that pretty much settles it for everybody, right?

Well everybody except thinkers. The supposition is that any "God" would 
be outside of time. Hence the entire question of any "Creation" is total 
nonsense.  I think it was starfaker, or maybe Rolf, who likened the 
universe and "God's" view of it as to a large roll of video tape where 
you've spliced the beginning to then end. We see the tape as it plays 
and take it to be "life" and our "universe". God however, being outside 
of time sees the entire roll in it's entirety where "our" time is 
irrelevant to that view.

-- 

       ___           ___           ___            ___
      /\  \         /\  \         /\__\          /\  \
     /::\  \       /::\  \       /::|  |         \:\  \
    /:/\:\  \     /:/\:\  \     /:|:|  |     ___ /::\__\
   /::\~\:\__\   /::\~\:\  \   /:/|:|  |__  /\  /:/\/__/
  /:/\:\ \:|__| /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\ \:\/:/  /
  \:\~\:\/:/  / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/  /  \::/  /
   \:\ \::/  /   \:\ \:\__\       |:/:/  /    \/__/
    \:\/:/  /     \:\ \/__/       |::/  /
     \::/__/       \:\__\         /:/  /
      ~~            \/__/         \/__/

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#545278

On 14/01/2016 11:17 AM, benj wrote:
> On 01/13/2016 07:07 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>>
>>> This is a question everybody seems to
>>> want to know...
>>
>> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
>> not create the universe.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
> Well, Shit! "Sylvia" is "pretty sure" that there is no God and I think
> that pretty much settles it for everybody, right?
>
> Well everybody except thinkers. The supposition is that any "God" would
> be outside of time. Hence the entire question of any "Creation" is total
> nonsense.  I think it was starfaker, or maybe Rolf, who likened the
> universe and "God's" view of it as to a large roll of video tape where
> you've spliced the beginning to then end. We see the tape as it plays
> and take it to be "life" and our "universe". God however, being outside
> of time sees the entire roll in it's entirety where "our" time is
> irrelevant to that view.
>

I think you've rather missed the point. The OP's assertion was that 
"everybody seems to want to know." I was merely providing a counter-example.

Sylvia.

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#545221

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 4:07:38 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> >
> > This is a question everybody seems to
> > want to know...
> 
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did 
> not create the universe.
> 
> Sylvia.

Not so sure shows honesty.Time will tell. Gems are created with great pressure.So are all types of stars.BHs are of the greatest.Implosions gave matter.TreBert

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#545223

reber g=emc^2 wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 4:07:38 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > How Did God Create The Universe?
>> >
>> > This is a question everybody seems to want to know...
>> 
>> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore
>> did not create the universe.

Hmmm, give us a free miracle, Big Bang, then we'll explain the rest.

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#545225

Sylvia Else wrote:

> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>
>> This is a question everybody seems to want to know...
> 
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.

A limited case of credibility. If you believe that you can believe 
everything.

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#545228

Carmine Portacio wrote:

> Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
>> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>>
>>> This is a question everybody seems to want to know...
>> 
>> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore
>> did not create the universe.
> 
> A limited case of credibility. If you believe that you can believe
> everything.

credulity, of course. If you can swallow that, you can swallow everything.

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#545232

On 2016-Jan-14 11:07, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>
>> This is a question everybody seems to
>> want to know...
> 
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.

Ah, but there's plenty of documentation to show that the universe was
created multiple times, in many different ways, by many different gods.

-- 
Peter Moylan                           http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

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#545309

Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 2016-Jan-14 11:07, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>>
>>> This is a question everybody seems to
>>> want to know...
>> 
>> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
>> not create the universe.
>
>Ah, but there's plenty of documentation to show that the universe was
>created multiple times, in many different ways, by many different gods.

I used to be a corporate programmer.  The documentation never does
match the actual project.
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#545429

Greg Goss wrote:
> 
> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >On 2016-Jan-14 11:07, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> How Did God Create The Universe?
> >>>
> >>> This is a question everybody seems to
> >>> want to know...
> >>
> >> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> >> not create the universe.
> >
> >Ah, but there's plenty of documentation to show that the universe was
> >created multiple times, in many different ways, by many different gods.
> 
> I used to be a corporate programmer.  The documentation never does
> match the actual project.



Who reads documentations anymore?


I'm up and running!


I can fly an airplane....i don't need a manual.

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#545574

On 2016-01-14, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>Ah, but there's plenty of documentation to show that the universe was
>>created multiple times, in many different ways, by many different gods.
>
> I used to be a corporate programmer.  The documentation never does
> match the actual project.

And, to boot, new discoveries and postulations force the uncountably infinite
numbers of spirits that form the mythic background FOR the universe to retcon
so that This Was Always so, so the origin's changing every so often as well.
By the end of the War in Heaven, its beginning may well have become totally
unrecognizable.

Dave, and this doesn't even take into account the various discussions going on
 OUTSIDE Creation in sundry ways
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/	-net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#545279

On 14/01/2016 11:07 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>
>> This is a question everybody seems to
>> want to know...
>
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.
>
> Sylvia.
>

Sheesh - they're all at it. Guys - you really need to read, and think, 
rather then getting all hot and bothered about an issue I'm not 
discussing at all.

I'm not saying anything about God. I'm saying something about me, 
because I'm a person, and therefore part of "everybody". The OP's 
assertion (notwithstanding the weasel word "seems") is false, because I 
am a counter-example.

Sylvia.

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#545287

Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> >
> > This is a question everybody seems to
> > want to know...
> 
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.
> 
> Sylvia.


Richard Dawkins is not pretty sure, he's unsure. How can you
be..."pretty sure"???

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#545282

"God" is a synonym for "Nature" or "Mother Nature". It makes nature an individual instead of a system. It's just a simple explanation of existence.

How does science explain existence ? At some level there is matter which has an unknown origin but that is contained in the universe. However, what contains the universe is not explained.

Furthermore, "science" and "nature" are not synonyms. Science is just a being's explanation of nature. Without the being, there is no science but only nature
.

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#545283

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> How Did God Create The Universe?
> 
> This is a question everybody seems to
> want to know...
> How Did God Create The Universe?
> 
> They want to know what materials He used.
> They want to know did He used computers?
> They want to know did He used machines to
> create the earth and the universe?
> They want to know exactly what process He used
> to create the earth and everything in it, including
> the whole entire universe!
> 
> They want to know...
> How Did God Create The Universe?
> 
> They want to know...
> How Did He Create The Universe?
> 
> They want you to explain it all how He did it.
> 
> To be continued...

 
They...want to know
how God went about
creating a universe..
you know..the details,
the tools he used..
the step by step
process He used from
begining to end...

They want to know
how He first went
about creating
life on earth...

I mean...
this information
is too dangerous
for yous to know.

You're liable to
build an atomic bomb
or something to kill people
for personal reasons.


You might even build
volcanos and asteroids
to destroy your enemies...


Sorry, you're not ready.

You're just going
to have to accept the brute fact
that God did it.

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#545291

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> >
> > This is a question everybody seems to
> > want to know...
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> >
> > They want to know what materials He used.
> > They want to know did He used computers?
> > They want to know did He used machines to
> > create the earth and the universe?
> > They want to know exactly what process He used
> > to create the earth and everything in it, including
> > the whole entire universe!
> >
> > They want to know...
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> >
> > They want to know...
> > How Did He Create The Universe?
> >
> > They want you to explain it all how He did it.
> >
> > To be continued...
> 
> 
> They...want to know
> how God went about
> creating a universe..
> you know..the details,
> the tools he used..
> the step by step
> process He used from
> begining to end...
> 
> They want to know
> how He first went
> about creating
> life on earth...
> 
> I mean...
> this information
> is too dangerous
> for yous to know.
> 
> You're liable to
> build an atomic bomb
> or something to kill people
> for personal reasons.
> 
> You might even build
> volcanos and asteroids
> to destroy your enemies...
> 
> Sorry, you're not ready.
> 
> You're just going
> to have to accept the brute fact
> that God did it.


What's really ridiculous
is that They
expect Christians
who believe in God
to explain it all.

To explain
How God did it.


This information
is too dangerous for
humans to aquire.

You'll start
building women in
your basements..

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#545294

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> >
> > This is a question everybody seems to
> > want to know...
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> >
> > They want to know what materials He used.
> > They want to know did He used computers?
> > They want to know did He used machines to
> > create the earth and the universe?
> > They want to know exactly what process He used
> > to create the earth and everything in it, including
> > the whole entire universe!
> >
> > They want to know...
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> >
> > They want to know...
> > How Did He Create The Universe?
> >
> > They want you to explain it all how He did it.
> >
> > To be continued...
> 
> 
> They...want to know
> how God went about
> creating a universe..
> you know..the details,
> the tools he used..
> the step by step
> process He used from
> begining to end...
> 
> They want to know
> how He first went
> about creating
> life on earth...
> 
> I mean...
> this information
> is too dangerous
> for yous to know.
> 
> You're liable to
> build an atomic bomb
> or something to kill people
> for personal reasons.
> 
> You might even build
> volcanos and asteroids
> to destroy your enemies...
> 
> Sorry, you're not ready.
> 
> You're just going
> to have to accept the brute fact
> that God did it.


I want to know how God created this world - Albert Einstein

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#545437

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > How Did God Create The Universe?
> > >
> > > This is a question everybody seems to
> > > want to know...
> > > How Did God Create The Universe?
> > >
> > > They want to know what materials He used.
> > > They want to know did He used computers?
> > > They want to know did He used machines to
> > > create the earth and the universe?
> > > They want to know exactly what process He used
> > > to create the earth and everything in it, including
> > > the whole entire universe!
> > >
> > > They want to know...
> > > How Did God Create The Universe?
> > >
> > > They want to know...
> > > How Did He Create The Universe?
> > >
> > > They want you to explain it all how He did it.
> > >
> > > To be continued...
> >
> >
> > They...want to know
> > how God went about
> > creating a universe..
> > you know..the details,
> > the tools he used..
> > the step by step
> > process He used from
> > begining to end...
> >
> > They want to know
> > how He first went
> > about creating
> > life on earth...
> >
> > I mean...
> > this information
> > is too dangerous
> > for yous to know.
> >
> > You're liable to
> > build an atomic bomb
> > or something to kill people
> > for personal reasons.
> >
> > You might even build
> > volcanos and asteroids
> > to destroy your enemies...
> >
> > Sorry, you're not ready.
> >
> > You're just going
> > to have to accept the brute fact
> > that God did it.
> 
> I want to know how God created this world - Albert Einstein


Albert Einstein really wanted to know the WHY did God created the world...the rest according to him were just little details.


The problem with Albert Einsten was he waited a little too late to be asking WHY questions...

as you can tell by the book he was reading:

https://timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/001151112.jpg

http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/slideshow/2013/03/14/celebrating-albert-einstein/_jcr_content/slideshow-par/slide_image4/image.img.jpg/0/0/1422517608937.jpg?ve=1&tl=1



Do you want to know ...WHY God created the Universe, instead of How?


Which do you prefer, How or Why?

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