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Is the universe curved or flat?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-12-11 13:56 -0800
Last post2015-12-17 13:28 -0800
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  Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 13:56 -0800
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-11 14:02 -0800
      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 22:39 -0600
        Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 21:38 -0800
          Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-13 12:59 -0800
            Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 15:05 -0600
              Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-13 21:52 +0000
              Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-13 22:54 +0100
              Re: Is the universe curved or flat? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 02:26 -0500
            Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-13 18:40 -0800
            Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-14 13:04 -0800
              Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 14:24 -0800
                Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 15:16 -0800
                  Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 15:34 -0800
                    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-16 23:15 -0800
                  Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 18:59 -0600
                    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 16:20 -0800
                      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 18:44 -0600
                        Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 17:43 -0800
                Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 18:46 -0600
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-11 16:34 -0600
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 15:16 -0800
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 15:58 -0800
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-11 18:40 -0600
      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-12 17:37 +0100
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 16:40 -0800
      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 19:06 -0600
        Re: Is the universe curved or flat? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 20:49 -0500
          Re: Is the universe curved or flat? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-13 20:41 -0600
            Re: Is the universe curved or flat? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 19:06 -0800
      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 17:43 -0800
        Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 20:26 -0600
        Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-15 14:20 -0800
          Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 14:34 -0800
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 13:17 -0800
      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 13:28 -0800

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#538662 — Is the universe curved or flat?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-11 13:56 -0800
SubjectIs the universe curved or flat?
Message-ID<566B467D.3BA1@ix.netcom.com>
if you say both, i'll shoot myself!

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#538666

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-12-11 14:02 -0800
Message-ID<9e104241-bd34-499a-ae13-d21c6f5aa6f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#538662
On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!


Flat.

Double-A

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#538727

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-11 22:39 -0600
Message-ID<K6ydnaSGP5l3OfbLnZ2dnUU7-aGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#538666
On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
>> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
>
>
> Flat.
>
> Double-A
>


   Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
   within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.





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#538736

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-11 21:38 -0800
Message-ID<566BB2D3.53B6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#538727
Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
> >
> >
> > Flat.
> >
> > Double-A
> >
> 
>    Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
>    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.
> 


I don't understand what you are saying, is space curve or flat? It has to be either one or the other.


Is space curve or flat?

Is space 

A. curve

or

B. flat


Which is the correct answer? A or B?

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#538927

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-13 12:59 -0800
Message-ID<566DDC37.7057@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#538736
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> >
> > On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
> > >
> > >
> > > Flat.
> > >
> > > Double-A
> > >
> >
> >    Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
> >    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.
> >
> 
> I don't understand what you are saying, is space curve or flat? It has to be either one or the other.
> 
> Is space curve or flat?
> 
> Is space
> 
> A. curve
> 
> or
> 
> B. flat
> 
> Which is the correct answer? A or B?


Didn't Einstein say space is curved not flat???

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#538930

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-13 15:05 -0600
Message-ID<jK6dnT8RsYnjQPDLnZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#538927
On 12/13/15 2:59 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Didn't Einstein say space is curved not flat???


   Einstein's general theory of relativity says that mass warps
   spacetime. Verified with many tests.

   On the cosmic scale, WMAP nailed down the curvature of space
   to within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.

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#538940

FromJason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org>
Date2015-12-13 21:52 +0000
Message-ID<n4kpaf$k42$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#538930
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Sam Wormley wrote:

> On 12/13/15 2:59 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Didn't Einstein say space is curved not flat???
> 
>    Einstein's general theory of relativity says that mass warps
>    spacetime. Verified with many tests.
>    On the cosmic scale, WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
>    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.

This scares me, since that number can only get smaller and smaller. Right 
after Big Bang took place, that must had been 100% curved. Hence also, at 
the time humans were created that number were say down to 60%. But still, 
imagine how much Relativity those people knew at that time. Much more than 
Einstein and the nowadays relativity promoters know.

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#538941

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-12-13 22:54 +0100
Message-ID<n4kpfa$jjr$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#538930

Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:jK6dnT8RsYnjQPDLnZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@giganews.com...


|   Einstein's general theory of relativity says that mass warps
|   spacetime. Verified with many tests.

And it says that going through a forest from your
point of view you're seeing you're stationary
and trees are runing around.
Verified by zilions of test.

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#539018

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-14 02:26 -0500
Message-ID<tauby.53498$051.13437@fx28.iad>
In reply to#538930
On 12/13/2015 04:05 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/13/15 2:59 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Didn't Einstein say space is curved not flat???
>
>
>    Einstein's general theory of relativity says that mass warps
>    spacetime. Verified with many tests.
>
>    On the cosmic scale, WMAP nailed down the curvature of space
>    to within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.

So genius. Here's an interesting Freshman problem for you. Given that 
"space" is observed to be 0.4% deviated from "flat", what is the 
smallest diameter of a hypersphere universe that can be found due to 
this measurement?

We'll wait right here for your answer.

-- 

       ___           ___           ___            ___
      /\  \         /\  \         /\__\          /\  \
     /::\  \       /::\  \       /::|  |         \:\  \
    /:/\:\  \     /:/\:\  \     /:|:|  |     ___ /::\__\
   /::\~\:\__\   /::\~\:\  \   /:/|:|  |__  /\  /:/\/__/
  /:/\:\ \:|__| /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\ \:\/:/  /
  \:\~\:\/:/  / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/  /  \::/  /
   \:\ \::/  /   \:\ \:\__\       |:/:/  /    \/__/
    \:\/:/  /     \:\ \/__/       |::/  /
     \::/__/       \:\__\         /:/  /
      ~~            \/__/         \/__/

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#538966

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-13 18:40 -0800
Message-ID<566E2C23.2448@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#538927
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > >
> > > On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Flat.
> > > >
> > > > Double-A
> > > >
> > >
> > >    Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
> > >    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.
> > >
> >
> > I don't understand what you are saying, is space curve or flat? It has to be either one or the other.
> >
> > Is space curve or flat?
> >
> > Is space
> >
> > A. curve
> >
> > or
> >
> > B. flat
> >
> > Which is the correct answer? A or B?
> 
> Didn't Einstein say space is curved not flat???


or is it everybody disagrees with Einstein?


I mean, Albert Einstein said: space is curved not flat.


Was he wrong?

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#539166

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-14 13:04 -0800
Message-ID<566F2EF7.26E6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#538927
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > >
> > > On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Flat.
> > > >
> > > > Double-A
> > > >
> > >
> > >    Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
> > >    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.
> > >


this wmac cmb jazz was created by a couple of radio DJ's...i don't trust those drug addicts.


there is no proof that the cmb was cause by a big bang. that's just...speculation.


it couldda been somthin else.

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#539474

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-15 14:24 -0800
Message-ID<5670932A.75CB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#539166
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Flat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Double-A
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >    Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
> > > >    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.
> > > >
> 
> this wmac cmb jazz was created by a couple of radio DJ's...i don't trust those drug addicts.
> 
> there is no proof that the cmb was cause by a big bang. that's just...speculation.
> 
> it couldda been somthin else.


For example...

this thing called WMAP or CMB...

microwave background????

We are talking about 'radio dj's'!


The background is not 'microwave'...it's RADIO waves.


That's why there is no heat...it's music, not fire.


That stuff in the backgound is just a lot of noise.

You gotta ask yourself a question...
Why am I the only one
in the world bringing this up????


Radio waves, not microwaves.


You guys gotta go back to the drawing board and start all over again...



come back when you're ready.

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#539482

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-15 15:16 -0800
Message-ID<56709F5F.39BC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#539474
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Flat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >    Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
> > > > >    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.
> > > > >
> >
> > this wmac cmb jazz was created by a couple of radio DJ's...i don't trust those drug addicts.
> >
> > there is no proof that the cmb was cause by a big bang. that's just...speculation.
> >
> > it couldda been somthin else.
> 
> For example...
> 
> this thing called WMAP or CMB...
> 
> microwave background????
> 
> We are talking about 'radio dj's'!
> 
> The background is not 'microwave'...it's RADIO waves.
> 
> That's why there is no heat...it's music, not fire.
> 
> That stuff in the backgound is just a lot of noise.


"While working on a new type of antenna at Bell Labs in Holmdel
Township, New Jersey, they found a source of noise in the atmosphere
that they could not explain."



Notice the word "noise"?  "noise in the atmosphere"...


noise


    1.
    a sound, especially one that is loud or unpleasant or that causes
disturbance. Like a big bang!



That music they are playing on the radio sounds like a lot of noise...


but if you smoke grass....it sounds like Pink Floyd music.

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#539484

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-15 15:34 -0800
Message-ID<5670A3A0.41C0@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#539482
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Flat.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
> > > > > >    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > this wmac cmb jazz was created by a couple of radio DJ's...i don't trust those drug addicts.
> > >
> > > there is no proof that the cmb was cause by a big bang. that's just...speculation.
> > >
> > > it couldda been somthin else.
> >
> > For example...
> >
> > this thing called WMAP or CMB...
> >
> > microwave background????
> >
> > We are talking about 'radio dj's'!
> >
> > The background is not 'microwave'...it's RADIO waves.
> >
> > That's why there is no heat...it's music, not fire.
> >
> > That stuff in the backgound is just a lot of noise.
> 
> "While working on a new type of antenna at Bell Labs in Holmdel
> Township, New Jersey, they found a source of noise in the atmosphere
> that they could not explain."
> 
> Notice the word "noise"?  "noise in the atmosphere"...
> 
> noise
> 
>     1.
>     a sound, especially one that is loud or unpleasant or that causes
> disturbance. Like a big bang!


In other words, somebody...took all the noise (radio waves is what it
really is) and changed it to 'microwave waves'.


Why? Who knows with 'these people' anymore? They fudge, they tweak, they
change the facts to fit the theory.

You guys are all a bunch of crooks if you ask me.



The Starmaker





go back to making blue boxes...

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#539772

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-16 23:15 -0800
Message-ID<567260FC.6090@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#539484
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Flat.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
> > > > > > >    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > this wmac cmb jazz was created by a couple of radio DJ's...i don't trust those drug addicts.
> > > >
> > > > there is no proof that the cmb was cause by a big bang. that's just...speculation.
> > > >
> > > > it couldda been somthin else.
> > >
> > > For example...
> > >
> > > this thing called WMAP or CMB...
> > >
> > > microwave background????
> > >
> > > We are talking about 'radio dj's'!
> > >
> > > The background is not 'microwave'...it's RADIO waves.
> > >
> > > That's why there is no heat...it's music, not fire.
> > >
> > > That stuff in the backgound is just a lot of noise.
> >
> > "While working on a new type of antenna at Bell Labs in Holmdel
> > Township, New Jersey, they found a source of noise in the atmosphere
> > that they could not explain."
> >
> > Notice the word "noise"?  "noise in the atmosphere"...
> >
> > noise
> >
> >     1.
> >     a sound, especially one that is loud or unpleasant or that causes
> > disturbance. Like a big bang!
> 
> In other words, somebody...took all the noise (radio waves is what it
> really is) and changed it to 'microwave waves'.



Now...just because there was a lot of noise in the universe...radio waves...
a big bang if you will...doesn't mean it was caused by an explosion.


What I mean is...picture it if you will...what else could cause
a lot of noise in the universe detected by those radio guys?

'They say'...by they i mean 'the scientific community', says only an explosion
could have caused all that racket/waves...

a big bang.

But there is something else they haven't thought of...

all that noise/raidowaves in the universe didn't have to be caused by an explosion...

just the opposite..

something very calm and silent could cause all that big bang noise radio waves in the universe...


something very calm and silent..

like the soft touch of a piano key...

or the gentle blow on the tuba.

a soft touch on a harp...

a blow of air on a trumpet
can make a ear pericing sound
yet it is caused by quiet air.


In other words, not a big bang explosion...
but a simple gentle air on the tuba.


The CMB is just the sound of music.

The Starmaker

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#539490

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-15 18:59 -0600
Message-ID<t-2dnRiOhsYVKu3LnZ2dnUU7-acAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#539482
On 12/15/15 5:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> a sound, especially one that is loud or unpleasant or that causes
> disturbance. Like a big bang!


   Sounds of the BB
> http://faculty.washington.edu/jcramer/BBSound.html
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyJ8Xjllzk
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa2DYSu0E78





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#539702

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 16:20 -0800
Message-ID<b519bade-c07c-47a6-8c80-82963a846d9f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#539490
On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 4:59:56 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/15/15 5:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > a sound, especially one that is loud or unpleasant or that causes
> > disturbance. Like a big bang!
> 
> 
>    Sounds of the BB
> > http://faculty.washington.edu/jcramer/BBSound.html
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyJ8Xjllzk
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa2DYSu0E78
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The two guys got Nobel prizes,and yet at first they thought bird shit got into the wooden horn. They lucked out.Me I have better thinking but no luck.Go figure TreBert

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#539711

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 18:44 -0600
Message-ID<QMydnRKvwsH_mO_LnZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#539702
On 12/16/15 6:20 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> The two guys got Nobel prizes,and yet at first they thought bird shit
> got into the wooden horn. They lucked out.Me I have better thinking
> but no luck.Go figure TreBert


   You're drunker than a skunk, reber. Penzias and Wilson DID have to
   clean pigeon dropping out of their microwave horn antenna. They DID
   discover the predicted CMB, and analysis of the CMB does show the
   universe to be flat (Euclidean).



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#539722

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 17:43 -0800
Message-ID<ea0c4e07-f901-454d-a926-b5f3886ba458@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#539711
On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/16/15 6:20 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > The two guys got Nobel prizes,and yet at first they thought bird shit
> > got into the wooden horn. They lucked out.Me I have better thinking
> > but no luck.Go figure TreBert
> 
> 
>    You're drunker than a skunk, reber. Penzias and Wilson DID have to
>    clean pigeon dropping out of their microwave horn antenna. They DID
>    discover the predicted CMB, and analysis of the CMB does show the
>    universe to be flat (Euclidean).
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Sam Skunks do not drink Bud.You are a loony bird to think I drink to get drunk.You are a cross between a loony bird and a parrot.Both have no brains and chirp to the tune of others.Think before you speak,and add thoughts to your life.Bad mouthing you are good at.Thinking is beyond you.  Try being nice   TreBert

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#539488

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-15 18:46 -0600
Message-ID<t-2dnRmOhsYeKe3LnZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#539474
On 12/15/15 4:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The background is not 'microwave'...it's RADIO waves.



Surprise -- Microwaves are in the short end of the radio spectrum
> http://planck.caltech.edu/epo/images/COBE_CMB_spectrum.jpg




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