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Re: Where is the center of the universe?

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  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 17:45 -0600
    Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 16:09 -0800
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 20:51 -0500
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 22:02 -0500
    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-20 23:48 -0800
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 10:27 +0100
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 05:13 -0500
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 12:57 +0100
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:44 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 20:01 +0100
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:17 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 20:01 +0100
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:22 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 11:18 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:26 -0500
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 11:33 -0800
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:32 -0500
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 12:01 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 12:24 -0800
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 12:54 -0800
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:36 -0500
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 13:43 -0800
                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:57 -0800
                        Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 15:26 -0800
                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-11-21 23:01 +0000
                        Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 17:07 -0600
                        Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 15:27 -0800
                          Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 15:58 -0800
                            Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 17:16 -0800
                              Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 17:32 -0800
                              Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 00:58 -0500
                                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-21 23:27 -0800
                                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:40 -0500
                                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:01 -0600
                                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-22 12:45 -0800
                          Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 00:47 -0500
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:43 -0500
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 08:05 -0600
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbertopal.org> - 2015-11-21 14:18 +0000
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:48 -0500
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-23 10:21 -0600
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-23 17:34 +0100
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 08:44 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 13:02 -0500
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 11:31 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 15:54 -0500
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 13:43 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 16:49 -0500
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 16:17 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 13:54 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-24 16:52 -0500
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-24 22:24 +0000
    Re: Where is the center of the universe? dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-21 06:43 -0500
      Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:45 -0500
        Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". "Notroll2015" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-11-21 12:51 -0600
        Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". Edward Stansfield <stansfield5REM6@linuxmail.org> - 2015-11-21 14:11 -0500
          Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:51 -0500
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 11:27 -0800
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:42 -0500
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 17:01 -0800
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-21 21:16 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Gatuzo <Gatuzo@gallaxial.com> - 2015-11-22 00:23 -0500
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 01:20 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 01:18 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:06 -0600
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 06:36 -0800
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 00:54 -0500
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-21 20:37 +0000
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-21 21:06 -0800
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-22 11:43 +0000
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 09:01 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-22 14:59 +0000
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-22 14:02 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 16:32 -0600
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-22 22:52 +0000
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-23 10:51 -0600
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-24 17:07 -0500
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-24 22:48 +0000
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-24 21:47 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-25 10:32 +0000
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 09:47 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-25 23:31 +0000
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 21:36 -0800
                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-26 14:22 -0800
                        Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-26 14:27 -0800
                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-26 17:34 -0800
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-01 21:52 -0800
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-25 09:59 -0600
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 11:16 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 08:40 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-25 11:02 -0600
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbBertopal.org> - 2015-11-25 17:37 +0000
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-25 18:47 +0100
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbBertopal.org> - 2015-11-25 18:11 +0000
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 10:06 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 14:04 -0600
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-25 17:50 +0100
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 10:01 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 14:05 -0600
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 12:42 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 13:18 -0800
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-01 22:16 -0800
                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 08:31 -0600
                        Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 08:11 -0800
                          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 10:21 -0600
                            Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 09:23 -0800
                            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 10:19 -0800
                              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 16:35 -0600
                                Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 14:51 -0800
                                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 17:30 -0600
                                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 18:16 -0800
                                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 20:23 -0600
                                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 21:23 -0800
                                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 21:31 -0800
                                        Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 09:25 -0600
                                          Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 12:03 -0800
                                            Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 14:50 -0600
                                              Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 16:43 -0800
                                                Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 17:12 -0800
                                                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 17:35 -0800
                                                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 19:36 -0600
                                                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 22:40 -0800
                                                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 23:10 -0800
                                                        Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 07:45 -0600
                                                          Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-04 13:13 -0800
                                                            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-04 21:31 -0800
                                                              Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-04 23:17 -0800
                                                                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 00:04 -0800
                                                                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-05 17:28 -0800
                                                                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 23:14 -0800
                                                            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 12:14 -0800
                                                              Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 18:08 -0800
                                                                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-06 17:50 -0800
                                                                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-06 20:04 -0600
                                                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 07:39 -0600
                                                        Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 15:09 -0500
                                                          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-07 21:50 +0100
                                                Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 19:33 -0600
                                                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 10:34 -0800
                                                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 13:26 -0600
                                                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 14:49 -0500
                                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 09:21 -0600
                                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-02 22:01 -0800
                                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 23:04 -0800

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#537266

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-03 19:36 -0600
Message-ID	<zJadnYrQvbepc_3LnZ2dnUU7-WUAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to	#537265

On 12/3/15 7:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> They need to be connected to the pipeline to have more hydrogen and
> helium.


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#537318

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-03 22:40 -0800
Message-ID	<56613561.1E12@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#537265

it appears to me
that most of yous
in the
'scientific community'
believe that..
Stars come with energy.

The biggest star on earth is
Humphrey Bogart.






The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 4:43:09 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > > There is plenty of hydrogen and helium in the universe.
> > >
> > > Stars make hydrogen and helium all the time.
> >
> > Not even close. Stars fuse hydrogen into helium, but they do not generate hydrogen.
> >
> > <rest of "pipeline" fiction snipped>
> 
> Once a star's pipeline is disconnected...they run out of hydrogen.
> 
> They need to be connected to the pipeline to have more hydrogen and
> helium.
> 
> In other words...stars get their energy from outside sources.
> 
> The Starmaker
> 
> A movie star doesn't become a star or a major star without a source of
> energy from outside itself.
> 
> In celestrial worlds, the principles are the same.
> 
> > I don't think you know what you're talking about...let me help you again.
> >
> > There is plenty of hydrogen and helium in the universe.
> >
> > Stars make hydrogen and helium all the time.
> >
> > What others don't know is
> > how stars get more hydrogen and helium...
> >
> > there is a pipeline..
> > this pipline connects
> > to all the stars in the universe...
> > that is where all the stars get their
> > hydrogen and helium..
> > through the pipeline.
> >
> > If the pipeline does not reach
> > or gets disconnected from a star
> > then that stars begins to die.
> >
> > If you look closely at the first 3 minutes after the big bang you can see very faintly the pipeline delivering the
> > hydrogen and helium and other ingredients to all the stars.
> >
> > http://s1114.photobucket.com/user/TheStarmaker1/slideshow/?albumview=slideshow
> >
> > All stars are connected to the pipeline.
> >
> > It's how stars are manufactured.
> >
> > I should know...I'm
> >
> > The Starmaker

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#537319

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-03 23:10 -0800
Message-ID	<56613C49.34D4@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#537318

i forgot to mention the 'pipelines' are gas pipelines.

stars get their fuel from the gas pipelines.

the big bang is the central force of the pipeline.





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> it appears to me
> that most of yous
> in the
> 'scientific community'
> believe that..
> Stars come with energy.
> 
> The biggest star on earth is
> Humphrey Bogart.
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 4:43:09 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is plenty of hydrogen and helium in the universe.
> > > >
> > > > Stars make hydrogen and helium all the time.
> > >
> > > Not even close. Stars fuse hydrogen into helium, but they do not generate hydrogen.
> > >
> > > <rest of "pipeline" fiction snipped>
> >
> > Once a star's pipeline is disconnected...they run out of hydrogen.
> >
> > They need to be connected to the pipeline to have more hydrogen and
> > helium.
> >
> > In other words...stars get their energy from outside sources.
> >
> > The Starmaker
> >
> > A movie star doesn't become a star or a major star without a source of
> > energy from outside itself.
> >
> > In celestrial worlds, the principles are the same.
> >
> > > I don't think you know what you're talking about...let me help you again.
> > >
> > > There is plenty of hydrogen and helium in the universe.
> > >
> > > Stars make hydrogen and helium all the time.
> > >
> > > What others don't know is
> > > how stars get more hydrogen and helium...
> > >
> > > there is a pipeline..
> > > this pipline connects
> > > to all the stars in the universe...
> > > that is where all the stars get their
> > > hydrogen and helium..
> > > through the pipeline.
> > >
> > > If the pipeline does not reach
> > > or gets disconnected from a star
> > > then that stars begins to die.
> > >
> > > If you look closely at the first 3 minutes after the big bang you can see very faintly the pipeline delivering the
> > > hydrogen and helium and other ingredients to all the stars.
> > >
> > > http://s1114.photobucket.com/user/TheStarmaker1/slideshow/?albumview=slideshow
> > >
> > > All stars are connected to the pipeline.
> > >
> > > It's how stars are manufactured.
> > >
> > > I should know...I'm
> > >
> > > The Starmaker

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#537352

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-04 07:45 -0600
Message-ID	<0rmdnTlh-NpCBfzLnZ2dnUU7-bOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#537319

On 12/4/15 1:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> i forgot to mention the 'pipelines' are gas pipelines.
>
> stars get their fuel from the gas pipelines.

   Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
   hydrogen and helium. They get hot enough to initiate and sustain
   hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
   further collapse due to gravity.

> http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter17/17f02.html

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#537425

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-04 13:13 -0800
Message-ID	<566201DD.323@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#537352

Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 12/4/15 1:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > i forgot to mention the 'pipelines' are gas pipelines.
> >
> > stars get their fuel from the gas pipelines.
> 
>    Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
>    hydrogen and helium. They get hot enough to initiate and sustain
>    hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
>    further collapse due to gravity.
> 
> > http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter17/17f02.html
> 


Let me help you from a different perpective..

Instead of looking at the night sky..

look at the earth at night from space: do an image serach on google: "earth at night from space"


https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=871&q=earth+at+night+from+space&oq=earth+at+night+from+space&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.135016.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.13.1465.Vlup3xiWcqw



Now, where do all those star lights on earth get their energy from? pipelines...from a machine that works like our Sun.

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#537493

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-04 21:31 -0800
Message-ID	<56627696.5A6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#537425

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> >
> > On 12/4/15 1:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > i forgot to mention the 'pipelines' are gas pipelines.
> > >
> > > stars get their fuel from the gas pipelines.
> >
> >    Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
> >    hydrogen and helium. They get hot enough to initiate and sustain
> >    hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
> >    further collapse due to gravity.
> >
> > > http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter17/17f02.html
> >
> 
> Let me help you from a different perpective..
> 
> Instead of looking at the night sky..
> 
> look at the earth at night from space: do an image search on google: "earth at night from space"
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=871&q=earth+at+night+from+space&oq=earth+at+night+from+space&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.135016.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.13.1465.Vlup3xiWcqw
> 
> Now, where do all those star lights on earth get their energy from? pipelines...from a machine that works like our Sun.


Now how does Humphrey Boart becomes a star? Or the biggest star on
earth???


Some stars (celestrial) big and small never get the hydrogen they
need..but they are still a star.

(pipeline must have got busted somewhere..)

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#537500

From	pnalsing@gmail.com
Date	2015-12-04 23:17 -0800
Message-ID	<f0d6a0a1-1648-4c86-a555-97e0341d763f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#537493

On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 9:30:15 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > >
> > > On 12/4/15 1:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > i forgot to mention the 'pipelines' are gas pipelines.
> > > >
> > > > stars get their fuel from the gas pipelines.
> > >
> > >    Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
> > >    hydrogen and helium. They get hot enough to initiate and sustain
> > >    hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
> > >    further collapse due to gravity.
> > >
> > > > http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter17/17f02.html
> > >
> > 
> > Let me help you from a different perpective..
> > 
> > Instead of looking at the night sky..
> > 
> > look at the earth at night from space: do an image search on google: "earth at night from space"
> > 
> > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=871&q=earth+at+night+from+space&oq=earth+at+night+from+space&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.135016.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.13.1465.Vlup3xiWcqw
> > 
> > Now, where do all those star lights on earth get their energy from? pipelines...from a machine that works like our Sun.
> 
> 
> Now how does Humphrey Boart becomes a star? Or the biggest star on
> earth???
> 
> 
> Some stars (celestrial) big and small never get the hydrogen they
> need..but they are still a star.
> 
> (pipeline must have got busted somewhere..)

Boart?

Celestrial?

Spellcheck is your friend...

BTW... NO star can be created without a shload of hydrogen... end of discussion.

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#537502

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-05 00:04 -0800
Message-ID	<56629A88.2F29@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#537500

pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 9:30:15 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 12/4/15 1:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > i forgot to mention the 'pipelines' are gas pipelines.
> > > > >
> > > > > stars get their fuel from the gas pipelines.
> > > >
> > > >    Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
> > > >    hydrogen and helium. They get hot enough to initiate and sustain
> > > >    hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
> > > >    further collapse due to gravity.
> > > >
> > > > > http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter17/17f02.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > Let me help you from a different perpective..
> > >
> > > Instead of looking at the night sky..
> > >
> > > look at the earth at night from space: do an image search on google: "earth at night from space"
> > >
>     https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=871&q=earth+at+night+from+space&oq=earth+at+night+from+space&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.135016.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.13.1465.Vlup3xi
> > >
> > > Now, where do all those star lights on earth get their energy from? pipelines...from a machine that works like our Sun.
> >
> >
> > Now how does Humphrey Boart becomes a star? Or the biggest star on
> > earth???
> >
> >
> > Some stars (celestrial) big and small never get the hydrogen they
> > need..but they are still a star.
> >
> > (pipeline must have got busted somewhere..)
> 
> Boart?
> 
> Celestrial?
> 
> Spellcheck is your friend...
> 
> BTW... NO star can be created without a shload of hydrogen... end of discussion.


Hydrogen-Deficient Stars

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#537595

From	pnalsing@gmail.com
Date	2015-12-05 17:28 -0800
Message-ID	<a0b16410-6fcf-4b99-903d-bab6a9ca820c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#537502

On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 12:04:23 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> pnal...@gmail.com wrote:

> > BTW... NO star can be created without a shload of hydrogen... end of discussion.

> Hydrogen-Deficient Stars

What about them? They are rare. Educate yourself.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1996ASPC...96..433S

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#537627

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-05 23:14 -0800
Message-ID	<5663E06E.425@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#537595

pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 12:04:23 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > > BTW... NO star can be created without a shload of hydrogen... end of discussion.
> 
> > Hydrogen-Deficient Stars
> 
> What about them? They are rare. Educate yourself.
> 
> http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1996ASPC...96..433S


Rareare, of course, that is what I wrote...I wrote:

> > Some stars (celestrial) big and small never get the hydrogen they
> > need..but they are still a star.

I wrote; "Some stars". Out of the billions that exist, "Some stars".


rare
 'not found in large numbers' 
https://www.google.com/#q=define+rare 


some
at least a small amount or number
https://www.google.com/#q=define+some

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#537563

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-05 12:14 -0800
Message-ID	<566345B9.674B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#537425

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> >
> > On 12/4/15 1:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > i forgot to mention the 'pipelines' are gas pipelines.
> > >
> > > stars get their fuel from the gas pipelines.
> >
> >    Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
> >    hydrogen and helium. They get hot enough to initiate and sustain
> >    hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
> >    further collapse due to gravity.
> >
> > > http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter17/17f02.html
> >
> 
> Let me help you from a different perpective..
> 
> Instead of looking at the night sky..
> 
> look at the earth at night from space: do an image serach on google: "earth at night from space"
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=871&q=earth+at+night+from+space&oq=earth+at+night+from+space&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.135016.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.13.1465.Vlup3xiWcqw
> 
> Now, where do all those star lights on earth get their energy from? pipelines...from a machine that works like our Sun.


Someone from outer space might look and say "My Gawd, it's full of stars!"

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/712129main_8247975848_88635d38a1_o.jpg


Did all the star lights appear all at once...or did it take a few hundred or thousand years? 

Where did all the star lights get their energy from?

Closer examination reveals...pipelines.


How did Humphrey Bogart become such a big star? And all the other stars?? Where is the pipeline???

It might not be visible...but it exist.

It's about How Stars Are Made...


The Starmaker

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#537603

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-05 18:08 -0800
Message-ID	<566398B8.356D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#537563

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > >
> > > On 12/4/15 1:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > i forgot to mention the 'pipelines' are gas pipelines.
> > > >
> > > > stars get their fuel from the gas pipelines.
> > >
> > >    Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
> > >    hydrogen and helium. They get hot enough to initiate and sustain
> > >    hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
> > >    further collapse due to gravity.
> > >
> > > > http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter17/17f02.html
> > >
> >
> > Let me help you from a different perpective..
> >
> > Instead of looking at the night sky..
> >
> > look at the earth at night from space: do an image serach on google: "earth at night from space"
> >
>   https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=871&q=earth+at+night+from+space&oq=earth+at+night+from+space&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.135016.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.13.1465.Vlup3xiWc
> >
> > Now, where do all those star lights on earth get their energy from? pipelines...from a machine that works like our Sun.
> 
> Someone from outer space might look and say "My Gawd, it's full of stars!"
> 
> https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/712129main_8247975848_88635d38a1_o.jpg
> 
> Did all the star lights appear all at once...or did it take a few hundred or thousand years?
> 
> Where did all the star lights get their energy from?
> 
> Closer examination reveals...pipelines.
> 
> How did Humphrey Bogart become such a big star? And all the other stars?? Where is the pipeline???
> 
> It might not be visible...but it exist.
> 
> It's about How Stars Are Made...
> 
> The Starmaker

...and the connection between stars and their outside source of energy.

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#537754

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-06 17:50 -0800
Message-ID	<5664E603.5F20@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#537603

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 12/4/15 1:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > i forgot to mention the 'pipelines' are gas pipelines.
> > > > >
> > > > > stars get their fuel from the gas pipelines.
> > > >
> > > >    Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
> > > >    hydrogen and helium. They get hot enough to initiate and sustain
> > > >    hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
> > > >    further collapse due to gravity.
> > > >
> > > > > http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter17/17f02.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > Let me help you from a different perpective..
> > >
> > > Instead of looking at the night sky..
> > >
> > > look at the earth at night from space: do an image serach on google: "earth at night from space"
> > >
>     https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=871&q=earth+at+night+from+space&oq=earth+at+night+from+space&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.135016.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.13.1465.Vlup3
> > >
> > > Now, where do all those star lights on earth get their energy from? pipelines...from a machine that works like our Sun.
> >
> > Someone from outer space might look and say "My Gawd, it's full of stars!"
> >
> > https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/712129main_8247975848_88635d38a1_o.jpg
> >
> > Did all the star lights appear all at once...or did it take a few hundred or thousand years?
> >
> > Where did all the star lights get their energy from?
> >
> > Closer examination reveals...pipelines.
> >
> > How did Humphrey Bogart become such a big star? And all the other stars?? Where is the pipeline???
> >
> > It might not be visible...but it exist.
> >
> > It's about How Stars Are Made...
> >
> > The Starmaker
> 
> ...and the connection between stars and their outside source of energy.


It's also about...the mechanism..how energy is passed through the
pipelines depending on the type of star.

Whether it's movie stars or celestrial stars, the principle is the same.

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#537756

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-06 20:04 -0600
Message-ID	<9didnc-cQYeFdPnLnZ2dnUU7-U-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#537754

On 12/6/15 7:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> It's also about...the mechanism..how energy is passed through the
> pipelines depending on the type of star.

   Radiation and Convection
> http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter19/19f08.html

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#537350

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-04 07:39 -0600
Message-ID	<0rmdnT5h-NozCvzLnZ2dnUU7-bOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#537318

On 12/4/15 12:40 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> it appears to me that most of yous in the 'scientific community'
> believe that.. Stars come with energy.

   Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
   hydrogen and helium. The get hot enough to initiate and sustain
   hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
   further collapse due to gravity.

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#537417

From	benj <none@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-04 15:09 -0500
Message-ID	<7qm8y.248873$rM.234282@fx16.iad>
In reply to	#537350

On 12/04/2015 08:39 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/4/15 12:40 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> it appears to me that most of yous in the 'scientific community'
>> believe that.. Stars come with energy.
>
>
>    Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
>    hydrogen and helium. The get hot enough to initiate and sustain
>    hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
>    further collapse due to gravity.
>

Sam, all the free hydrogen in the universe was pulled by gravity to make 
all the stars. Herb told me so.


-- 

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    \:\/:/  /     \:\ \/__/       |::/  /
     \::/__/       \:\__\         /:/  /
      ~~            \/__/         \/__/

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#537895

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date	2015-12-07 21:50 +0100
Message-ID	<2029356.UzLC9pO7Wb@PointedEars.de>
In reply to	#537417

benj wrote:

> On 12/04/2015 08:39 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 12/4/15 12:40 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> it appears to me that most of yous in the 'scientific community'
>>> believe that.. Stars come with energy.
>>
>>
>>    Stars are born of the gravitational collapse of vast clouds of
>>    hydrogen and helium. The get hot enough to initiate and sustain
>>    hydrogen fusion (p-p chain). the out going radiation prevents
>>    further collapse due to gravity.
> 
> Sam, all the free hydrogen in the universe was pulled by gravity to make
> all the stars. Herb told me so.

If Herb would be correct, then there would not be any gas clouds left for us 
to observe that are *still* “making stars”.  Like the textbook “stellar 
nursery” in the Eagle Nebula (M16, NGC 6611, Sharpless 49, RCW 165, Gum 83).

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_formation#Stellar_nurseries> pp.

The “From” header field value of your posting is in violation of GMail 
rules, so you want to fix this.

PointedEars
-- 
Q: How many theoretical physicists specializing in general relativity
   does it take to change a light bulb?  
A: Two: one to hold the bulb and one to rotate the universe.
(from: WolframAlpha)

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#537264

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-03 19:33 -0600
Message-ID	<zJadnYvQvbfNcP3LnZ2dnUU7-WWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#537255

On 12/3/15 6:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Stars make hydrogen and helium all the time.

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   Stars convert, perhaps 10 percent of their hydrogen into helium.
   No hydrogen is created.



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#537392

From	"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-04 10:34 -0800
Message-ID	<46e73101-a36c-4325-8878-c2440f9cbdb1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#537264

On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 5:33:09 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/3/15 6:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Stars make hydrogen and helium all the time.
> 
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> 
> 
>    Stars convert, perhaps 10 percent of their hydrogen into helium.
>    No hydrogen is created.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Space at "once upon a time" was all free hydrogen.Over eons of time gravity's force used all this hydrogen to form the very first stars that had great density,and reached their critical mass state very fast,and exploded and imploded.From this smaller stars that could last 10 billion years and more were vcreated by the trillions.So many that the odds were good that some would have Earth life planets.Proof of this is my being here as of now typing this out to be read by my fellow humans. So be it.Its reality,or just a virtual dream.Take your pick.I always go with reality.I leave dreaming in bed when I get up,and out the window when I day dream.TreBert

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#537403

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-04 13:26 -0600
Message-ID	<O62dnYgZG4BLdfzLnZ2dnUU7-eUAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to	#537392

On 12/4/15 12:34 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Space at "once upon a time" was all free hydrogen

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