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  Are Ghosts Real? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 06:04 -0800
    Re: Are Ghosts Real? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 09:59 -0500
      Re: Are Ghosts Real? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-03 13:57 -0600
        Re: Are Ghosts Real? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 23:45 -0500
          Re: Are Ghosts Real? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-03 23:06 -0600
          Re: Are Ghosts Real? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 04:45 -0800
      Re: Are Ghosts Real? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 17:24 -0800
    Are Ghosts Real? Ayaz Siddiqi <ayaz.s.siddiqi@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 07:26 -0800
      Re: Are Ghosts Real? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 09:50 -0800
    Re: Are Ghosts Real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 12:08 -0800
      Re: Are Ghosts Real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 17:42 -0800
        Re: Are Ghosts Real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 22:34 -0800
    Re: Are Ghosts Real? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 14:36 -0800
      Re: Are Ghosts Real? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 16:40 -0800
        Re: Are Ghosts Real? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 21:23 -0500
          Re: Are Ghosts Real? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 06:48 -0800
            Re: Are Ghosts Real? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 08:25 -0800
              Re: Are Ghosts Real? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 10:04 -0800
                Re: Are Ghosts Real? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 14:06 -0500
                  Re: Are Ghosts Real? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 15:04 -0800
                    Re: Are Ghosts Real? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-06 05:35 -0800
                      Re: Are Ghosts Real? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-06 09:06 -0500
                      Re: Are Ghosts Real? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-06 06:08 -0800
                        Re: Are Ghosts Real? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-06 08:20 -0800
                          Re: Are Ghosts Real? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-06 09:17 -0800
                          Re: Are Ghosts Real? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 01:51 -0500
                        Re: Are Ghosts Real? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 01:49 -0500
            Re: Are Ghosts Real? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 10:02 -0800
              Re: Are Ghosts Real? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 14:04 -0500

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#537115 — Are Ghosts Real?

The distinguished poster, BJ, says they are. However, he stubbornly refuses to post ANY evidence as to their existence. Who else believes in ghosts and why. What evidence can you present?

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#537126

On 12/03/2015 09:04 AM, HVAC wrote:
>
> The distinguished poster, BJ, says they are. However, he stubbornly
> refuses to post ANY evidence as to their existence. Who else believes
> in ghosts and why. What evidence can you present?

Lies.

Said Ghost phenomena is real. People actually believe they are seeing 
things. Every time I post references to books with evidence HVAC 
pretends nothing happened. I'm guessing he can only read at the comic 
book level like Wormley.

People experiencing ghost phenomena does not provide an explanation of 
what it is. HVAC thinks science is a religion and he wants everyone in 
science to believe the dogma of his Atheist religion. Fundies are all 
the same no matter what their religion. Science is not about belief. 
Science is about experiments and data. HVAC is a about ignorance, 
superstition and fantasy.

Who else here understands what I'm saying about H&V?

(And H&V is also gay. Come out of the closet, HVAC!)

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#537194

On 12/3/2015 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
> On 12/03/2015 09:04 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>
>> The distinguished poster, BJ, says they are. However, he stubbornly
>> refuses to post ANY evidence as to their existence. Who else believes
>> in ghosts and why. What evidence can you present?

> Lies.
>
> Said Ghost phenomena is real. People actually believe they are seeing
> things. Every time I post references to books with evidence HVAC
> pretends nothing happened. I'm guessing he can only read at the comic
> book level like Wormley.

> People experiencing ghost phenomena does not provide an explanation of
> what it is. HVAC thinks science is a religion and he wants everyone in
> science to believe the dogma of his Atheist religion. Fundies are all
> the same no matter what their religion. Science is not about belief.
> Science is about experiments and data. HVAC is a about ignorance,
> superstition and fantasy.

> Who else here understands what I'm saying about H&V?
>
> (And H&V is also gay. Come out of the closet, HVAC!)
>

.....which brings up the following almost scientific questions,

Are Ghost pheromones real ?

are there male and female ghosts ?
	do they have baby ghosts ?
	do they have to be married ?

If they got married, there has to be ghost judges and ghost lawyers, and 
ghost law, ghost law books, etc.

could their be any gay ghosts ?
Is a gay ghost hitting on your wifey/hubby right now ?
How would you know ?

do ghosts get drunk? become vampires? or become zombies?
	(stay why or how, or why not, and who excluded them)

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#537308

On 12/03/2015 02:57 PM, gilber34 wrote:
> On 12/3/2015 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 12/03/2015 09:04 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>>
>>> The distinguished poster, BJ, says they are. However, he stubbornly
>>> refuses to post ANY evidence as to their existence. Who else believes
>>> in ghosts and why. What evidence can you present?
>
>> Lies.
>>
>> Said Ghost phenomena is real. People actually believe they are seeing
>> things. Every time I post references to books with evidence HVAC
>> pretends nothing happened. I'm guessing he can only read at the comic
>> book level like Wormley.
>
>> People experiencing ghost phenomena does not provide an explanation of
>> what it is. HVAC thinks science is a religion and he wants everyone in
>> science to believe the dogma of his Atheist religion. Fundies are all
>> the same no matter what their religion. Science is not about belief.
>> Science is about experiments and data. HVAC is a about ignorance,
>> superstition and fantasy.
>
>> Who else here understands what I'm saying about H&V?
>>
>> (And H&V is also gay. Come out of the closet, HVAC!)
>>
>
> .....which brings up the following almost scientific questions,
>
> Are Ghost pheromones real ?
>
> are there male and female ghosts ?
>      do they have baby ghosts ?
>      do they have to be married ?
>
> If they got married, there has to be ghost judges and ghost lawyers, and
> ghost law, ghost law books, etc.
>
> could their be any gay ghosts ?
> Is a gay ghost hitting on your wifey/hubby right now ?
> How would you know ?
>
> do ghosts get drunk? become vampires? or become zombies?
>      (stay why or how, or why not, and who excluded them)

Are you really as stooopid as you pretend or is it not an act?

If (as I already theorized) Ghosts are just an Echo of past emotional 
events, then obviously anything that exists in the universe can appear 
as an echo. You need to study under Glazier to learn how to be an 
imperial thinker.



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#537312

On 12/3/2015 10:45 PM, benj wrote:
> On 12/03/2015 02:57 PM, gilber34 wrote:
>> On 12/3/2015 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 12/03/2015 09:04 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The distinguished poster, BJ, says they are. However, he stubbornly
>>>> refuses to post ANY evidence as to their existence. Who else believes
>>>> in ghosts and why. What evidence can you present?
>>
>>> Lies.

>>> Said Ghost phenomena is real. People actually believe they are seeing
>>> things. Every time I post references to books with evidence HVAC
>>> pretends nothing happened. I'm guessing he can only read at the comic
>>> book level like Wormley.
>>
>>> People experiencing ghost phenomena does not provide an explanation of
>>> what it is. HVAC thinks science is a religion and he wants everyone in
>>> science to believe the dogma of his Atheist religion. Fundies are all
>>> the same no matter what their religion. Science is not about belief.
>>> Science is about experiments and data. HVAC is a about ignorance,
>>> superstition and fantasy.

>>> Who else here understands what I'm saying about H&V?
>>>
>>> (And H&V is also gay. Come out of the closet, HVAC!)
>>>

>> .....which brings up the following almost scientific questions,
>>
>> Are Ghost pheromones real ?
>>
>> are there male and female ghosts ?
>>      do they have baby ghosts ?
>>      do they have to be married ?

>> If they got married, there has to be ghost judges and ghost lawyers, and
>> ghost law, ghost law books, etc.
>>
>> could their be any gay ghosts ?
>> Is a gay ghost hitting on your wifey/hubby right now ?
>> How would you know ?

>> do ghosts get drunk? become vampires? or become zombies?
>>      (stay why or how, or why not, and who excluded them)
>
> Are you really as stooopid as you pretend or is it not an act?

no, these are true questions that pop into my head when you say ghosts 
exist.



>
> If (as I already theorized) Ghosts are just an Echo of past emotional
> events, then obviously anything that exists in the universe can appear
> as an echo. You need to study under Glazier to learn how to be an
> imperial thinker.

so if it is a HUGE emotional event, you will have strong armed Ghost.

and if it is minor event, you have Wimpy Ghost.

and if you have girly like ghost named Olive Oil,  where is Bluto ?

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#537331

If (as I already theorized) Ghosts are just an Echo of past emotional 
events, then obviously anything that exists in the universe can appear 
as an echo.
--------

'Theorized'. 

And you have the balls to claim you're into science?

What type of energy powers these ghost echos? How is it stored? How  does emotion translate into a lasting physical phenomenon?

Of course the answer is that it doesn't.

There is zero evidence that it does, much less any modality which would allow such events to occur.

So I ask you once again, Mr scientist, why do you believe?

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#537263

People experiencing ghost phenomena does not provide an explanation of 
what it is. 
----

Of course they do! GHOSTS



HVAC thinks science is a religion and he wants everyon
science to believe the dogma of his Atheist religion.
------

The dogma of the atheist religion is that no longer will your belief in that for which no evidence exists be tolerated.

That includes your ghosts. Your ESP. Your god. And all the other hogwash you believe in.





 

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#537141

Women blow their heart valves during birth and transform into ghosts unless they get lucky. But their loved ones are usually not so lucky because either the dead wife does them in by pumping their hearts or the lovely society does that job, thereby transforming the world from living happy people into dead salivating vampires ghosts werewolves and through dementia also zombies. Then we begin to appreciate the value of craft freemasonry and religion that redeems our belligerent and extreme tendencies into constructive benign behaviours. But of course all human endeavour is about controlling the minds of men and so you get corruption and slavery and robbery and murder in order to secure a slight personal advantage in a world of limited resources. Therefore good education is hard to find because the world would sooner stamp on your face than assist the widow's son.

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#537172

On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 7:26:58 AM UTC-8, Ayaz Siddiqi wrote:
> Women blow their heart valves during birth and transform into ghosts unless they get lucky. But their loved ones are usually not so lucky because either the dead wife does them in by pumping their hearts or the lovely society does that job, thereby transforming the world from living happy people into dead salivating vampires ghosts werewolves and through dementia also zombies. Then we begin to appreciate the value of craft freemasonry and religion that redeems our belligerent and extreme tendencies into constructive benign behaviours. But of course all human endeavour is about controlling the minds of men and so you get corruption and slavery and robbery and murder in order to secure a slight personal advantage in a world of limited resources. Therefore good education is hard to find because the world would sooner stamp on your face than assist the widow's son.

Only in your attic  TreBert

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#537197

HVAC wrote:
> 
> The distinguished poster, BJ, says they are. However, he stubbornly refuses to post ANY evidence as to their existence. Who else believes in ghosts and why. What evidence can you present?


Yes, a ghost is real...it is a spirit, and image sort of...but it isn't
dead. 

In other words, there are no dead ghost.

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#537268

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> HVAC wrote:
> >
> > The distinguished poster, BJ, says they are. However, he stubbornly refuses to post ANY evidence as to their existence. Who else believes in ghosts and why. What evidence can you present?
> 
> Yes, a ghost is real...it is a spirit, and image sort of...but it isn't
> dead.
> 
> In other words, there are no dead ghost.



le me put it a different way...

if you have an out of body experience...
and you're floating above yourself..
looking down at yourself..

isn't that a spirit in front of you?


In other words..to put it simply,

a ghost is just yourself.


Is that you in the mirror?

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#537317

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > HVAC wrote:
> > >
> > > The distinguished poster, BJ, says they are. However, he stubbornly refuses to post ANY evidence as to their existence. Who else believes in ghosts and why. What evidence can you present?
> >
> > Yes, a ghost is real...it is a spirit, and image sort of...but it isn't
> > dead.
> >
> > In other words, there are no dead ghost.
> 
> le me put it a different way...
> 
> if you have an out of body experience...
> and you're floating above yourself..
> looking down at yourself..
> 
> isn't that a spirit in front of you?
> 
> In other words..to put it simply,
> 
> a ghost is just yourself.
> 
> Is that you in the mirror?



most people are not aware that
when people die
their soul goes through
their pores and leaves the body..

that is why older people,
pores...get larger when they get older
to prepare the soul to leave...to make it
easier to exit...anyway.

Younger peoples pores are smaller to make it harder
for their soul to leave early on their own.

A ghost is just your present image self...in front of you.

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#537437

On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 6:04:58 AM UTC-8, HVAC wrote:
> The distinguished poster, BJ, says they are. However, he stubbornly refuses to post ANY evidence as to their existence. Who else believes in ghosts and why. What evidence can you present?

No one has ever camped out in a family vault for a year.That would be a good experiment.TreBert

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#537465

No one has ever camped out in a family vault for a year.That would be a good experiment.TreBert
---------

Bert great idea! Marshmallows cooked over a toasty cadaver... The scent of death... Good times

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#537472

On 12/04/2015 07:40 PM, HVAC wrote:
> No one has ever camped out in a family vault for a year.That would be a good experiment.TreBert
> ---------
>
> Bert great idea! Marshmallows cooked over a toasty cadaver... The scent of death... Good times
>
Hey crypt camping is only ONE step down from a Walmart parking lot!

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#537519

There is organization possible at every level
because there is energy at every level.
Electrons expend and accrue energy
in the same cycle as galaxies shred old
stars and spawn new ones. This energy
cycle happens again and again at smaller
and smaller levels. Infinite patterns are
possible. Patterns = knowledge.
Intelligence has no correlation with size.
What don't you know?

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#537525

Patterns can be as small as you can
make them.
Knowing is knowing at any level.
The only difference is frequency: i.e. the
level's relationship to Universal Time.
And size.

So- if some of the Carbon Atom/Galaxies
that are part of my body
have evolved to contain Time and Space
travelling Wizards that choose to dip into 
and out of my reality in order to 
help things along, well, you can call them
ghosts. Whatever 

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#537545

So- if some of the Carbon Atom/Galaxies 
that are part of my body 
have evolved to contain Time and Space 
travelling Wizards that choose to dip into 
and out of my reality in order to 
help things along, well, you can call them 
ghosts. Whatever 
--------

Glad to see that both John and BJ agree that ghosts are real.

John, by any chance do you believe in ESP?

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#537553

On 12/05/2015 01:04 PM, HVAC wrote:
>
> So- if some of the Carbon Atom/Galaxies
> that are part of my body
> have evolved to contain Time and Space
> travelling Wizards that choose to dip into
> and out of my reality in order to
> help things along, well, you can call them
> ghosts. Whatever
> --------
>
> Glad to see that both John and BJ agree that ghosts are real.
>
> John, by any chance do you believe in ESP?

HVAC thinks science is about what you "believe". Idiot Lib writes have 
not a clue about science. For them all reality is their fantasies.

HVAC believes in astrology, ghosts and that on Fridays he's Napoleon.
He is also Gay.



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#537580

That's how there can be different dimensions;
simply by using higher frequency/smaller
scales

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