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"picture" it

Started by	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post	2015-11-27 13:05 -0800
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  "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-27 13:05 -0800
    Re: "picture" it Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-27 15:11 -0600
      Re: "picture" it Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-27 22:22 +0100
    Re: "picture" it pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-27 13:43 -0800
    Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-27 23:09 -0800
      Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-27 23:58 -0800
        Re: "picture" it benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 03:33 -0500
        Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 17:02 -0800
          Re: "picture" it Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 19:59 -0600
          Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-01 22:09 -0800
      Re: "picture" it benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 03:32 -0500
        Re: "picture" it Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-28 09:13 -0700
          Re: "picture" it benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 13:53 -0500
        Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 16:49 -0800
          Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 23:12 -0800
            Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 23:19 -0800
            Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 23:22 -0800
              Re: "picture" it Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-29 07:33 -0600
                Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-29 08:14 -0800
              Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-01 22:00 -0800
            Re: "picture" it Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-29 07:31 -0600
              Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-29 08:15 -0800
                Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-29 08:21 -0800
              Re: "picture" it David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-01 09:19 -0600
    Re: "picture" it "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 01:05 -0800
    "picture" it HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-01 08:01 -0800
      Re: "picture" it benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-01 18:20 -0500

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#536334

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-11-29 07:31 -0600
Message-ID	<XcSdnX3AkLikY8fLnZ2dnUU7-QcAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to	#536307

On 11/29/15 1:12 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Over 1,400 pages of investigation by the Federal Bureau of
> Investigation, released recently under the Freedom of Information Act,
> into the background of Einstein revealed that he was was a member,
> sponsor, or affiliated with 34 communist fronts and served as honorary
> chairman for three communist organizations. The report has the baffling
> conclusion that Albert Einstein had more Communist affiliations than the
> Soviet dictator Josef Stalin!

> https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%205%20of%2014

Total Sham:

General Information
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Hostname:	104.16.94.235
Country:	US
AS:	13335
AS Name:	CLOUDFLARENET - CloudFlare, Inc.,US
Network:	104.16.0.0/12 (104.16.0.0-104.31.255.255) 104.32.0.0
Reports:	
Targets:	
First Reported:	
Most Recent Report:	

Whois Info

NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12
NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET
NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1
Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Direct Assignment
OriginAS:       AS13335
Organization:   CloudFlare, Inc. (CLOUD14)
RegDate:        2014-03-28
Updated:        2015-10-01
Comment:        https://www.cloudflare.com
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-16-0-0-1


OrgName:        CloudFlare, Inc.
OrgId:          CLOUD14
Address:        101 Townsend Street
City:           San Francisco
StateProv:      CA
PostalCode:     94107
Country:        US
RegDate:        2010-07-09
Updated:        2015-10-08
Comment:        http://www.cloudflare.com/
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CLOUD14


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#536350

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-29 08:15 -0800
Message-ID	<565B24B7.EF3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#536334

site: https://www.fbi.gov/ vault

The Vault is our new FOIA Library, containing 6,700 documents and other media ... FBI.gov is an official site of the U.S. government, U.S. Department of Justice.

https://vault.fbi.gov/Federal Bureau of Investigation


it's no sham...you're just mistaken, again.


Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 11/29/15 1:12 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Over 1,400 pages of investigation by the Federal Bureau of
> > Investigation, released recently under the Freedom of Information Act,
> > into the background of Einstein revealed that he was was a member,
> > sponsor, or affiliated with 34 communist fronts and served as honorary
> > chairman for three communist organizations. The report has the baffling
> > conclusion that Albert Einstein had more Communist affiliations than the
> > Soviet dictator Josef Stalin!
> 
> > https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%205%20of%2014
> 
> Total Sham:
> 
> General Information
> IP Address (click for more detail):     104.16.94.235
> Hostname:       104.16.94.235
> Country:        US
> AS:     13335
> AS Name:        CLOUDFLARENET - CloudFlare, Inc.,US
> Network:        104.16.0.0/12 (104.16.0.0-104.31.255.255) 104.32.0.0
> Reports:
> Targets:
> First Reported:
> Most Recent Report:
> 
> Whois Info
> 
> NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
> CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12
> NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET
> NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1
> Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)
> NetType:        Direct Assignment
> OriginAS:       AS13335
> Organization:   CloudFlare, Inc. (CLOUD14)
> RegDate:        2014-03-28
> Updated:        2015-10-01
> Comment:        https://www.cloudflare.com
> Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-16-0-0-1
> 
> OrgName:        CloudFlare, Inc.
> OrgId:          CLOUD14
> Address:        101 Townsend Street
> City:           San Francisco
> StateProv:      CA
> PostalCode:     94107
> Country:        US
> RegDate:        2010-07-09
> Updated:        2015-10-08
> Comment:        http://www.cloudflare.com/
> Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CLOUD14
> 
> OrgTechHandle: ADMIN2521-ARIN
> OrgTechName:   Admin
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> 
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#536351

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-29 08:21 -0800
Message-ID	<565B2620.2265@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#536350

https://www.fbi.gov/fbi-search#output=xml_no_dtd&client=google-csbe&cx=005240866907727249433%3Afryflkwxx8u&cof=FORID%3A10%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&siteurl=www.fbi.gov%2Fsite-map&q=vault


or,
for a step by step search:

go to:  https://www.fbi.gov/

in Search Site type: vault

https://www.fbi.gov/fbi-search#output=xml_no_dtd&client=google-csbe&cx=005240866907727249433%3Afryflkwxx8u&cof=FORID%3A10%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&siteurl=www.fbi.gov%2F&q=vault


you see....it's okay.






The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> site: https://www.fbi.gov/ vault
> 
> The Vault is our new FOIA Library, containing 6,700 documents and other media ... FBI.gov is an official site of the U.S. government, U.S. Department of Justice.
> 
> https://vault.fbi.gov/Federal Bureau of Investigation
> 
> it's no sham...you're just mistaken, again.
> 
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> >
> > On 11/29/15 1:12 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Over 1,400 pages of investigation by the Federal Bureau of
> > > Investigation, released recently under the Freedom of Information Act,
> > > into the background of Einstein revealed that he was was a member,
> > > sponsor, or affiliated with 34 communist fronts and served as honorary
> > > chairman for three communist organizations. The report has the baffling
> > > conclusion that Albert Einstein had more Communist affiliations than the
> > > Soviet dictator Josef Stalin!
> >
> > > https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%205%20of%2014
> >
> > Total Sham:
> >
> > General Information
> > IP Address (click for more detail):     104.16.94.235
> > Hostname:       104.16.94.235
> > Country:        US
> > AS:     13335
> > AS Name:        CLOUDFLARENET - CloudFlare, Inc.,US
> > Network:        104.16.0.0/12 (104.16.0.0-104.31.255.255) 104.32.0.0
> > Reports:
> > Targets:
> > First Reported:
> > Most Recent Report:
> >
> > Whois Info
> >
> > NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
> > CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12
> > NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET
> > NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1
> > Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)
> > NetType:        Direct Assignment
> > OriginAS:       AS13335
> > Organization:   CloudFlare, Inc. (CLOUD14)
> > RegDate:        2014-03-28
> > Updated:        2015-10-01
> > Comment:        https://www.cloudflare.com
> > Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-16-0-0-1
> >
> > OrgName:        CloudFlare, Inc.
> > OrgId:          CLOUD14
> > Address:        101 Townsend Street
> > City:           San Francisco
> > StateProv:      CA
> > PostalCode:     94107
> > Country:        US
> > RegDate:        2010-07-09
> > Updated:        2015-10-08
> > Comment:        http://www.cloudflare.com/
> > Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CLOUD14
> >
> > OrgTechHandle: ADMIN2521-ARIN
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> >
> > RNOCHandle: NOC11962-ARIN
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> > RNOCEmail:  noc@cloudflare.com
> > RNOCRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC11962-ARIN
> >
> > --
> >
> > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
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#536720

From	David Staup <dstaup@charter.net>
Date	2015-12-01 09:19 -0600
Message-ID	<n3kdma$f9h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#536334

On 11/29/2015 7:31 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 11/29/15 1:12 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Over 1,400 pages of investigation by the Federal Bureau of
>> Investigation, released recently under the Freedom of Information Act,
>> into the background of Einstein revealed that he was was a member,
>> sponsor, or affiliated with 34 communist fronts and served as honorary
>> chairman for three communist organizations. The report has the baffling
>> conclusion that Albert Einstein had more Communist affiliations than the
>> Soviet dictator Josef Stalin!
>
>> https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%205%20of%2014
>>
>
> Total Sham:
>
> General Information
> IP Address (click for more detail):    104.16.94.235
> Hostname:    104.16.94.235
> Country:    US
> AS:    13335
> AS Name:    CLOUDFLARENET - CloudFlare, Inc.,US
> Network:    104.16.0.0/12 (104.16.0.0-104.31.255.255) 104.32.0.0
> Reports:
> Targets:
> First Reported:
> Most Recent Report:
>
> Whois Info
>
> NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
> CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12
> NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET
> NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1
> Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)
> NetType:        Direct Assignment
> OriginAS:       AS13335
> Organization:   CloudFlare, Inc. (CLOUD14)
> RegDate:        2014-03-28
> Updated:        2015-10-01
> Comment:        https://www.cloudflare.com
> Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-16-0-0-1
>
>
> OrgName:        CloudFlare, Inc.
> OrgId:          CLOUD14
> Address:        101 Townsend Street
> City:           San Francisco
> StateProv:      CA
> PostalCode:     94107
> Country:        US
> RegDate:        2010-07-09
> Updated:        2015-10-08
> Comment:        http://www.cloudflare.com/
> Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CLOUD14
>
>
> OrgTechHandle: ADMIN2521-ARIN
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>
> RAbuseHandle: ABUSE2916-ARIN
> RAbuseName:   Abuse
> RAbusePhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> RAbuseEmail:  abuse@cloudflare.com
> RAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE2916-ARIN
>
> RNOCHandle: NOC11962-ARIN
> RNOCName:   NOC
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> RNOCRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC11962-ARIN
>
>
Sam you must understand one thing

when you debate an idiot, it pretty much makes you an idiot

but we already knew that

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#536061

From	"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date	2015-11-28 01:05 -0800
Message-ID	<027d4b32-7330-4ac3-9a3a-8d4f40ada838@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#535964

On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 11:05:00 PM UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
> For some reason..
> it appears to me
> that the
> 'scientific community'
> don't understand..
> or don't know
> how to use other tools
> to understand
> how the universe works.
> 
> They seem to be
> limited by using
> just mathematics.
> 
> There are other tools.
> 
> I'll explain what came before
> or existed before the big bang
> and what cause of the big bang clearly.
> 
> The Bang Bang was simply
> an explosion of...
> 'MORE Space'.
> 
> Before the big bang
> the small space that
> existed before was filled
> with stars to a point that
> if you looked at the night
> sky...it appeared that the stars
> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> from each other.
>  
> There was simply more stars
> that filled the night sky that you
> could barely see the night sky.
> 
> Trillion of years of stars being
> born and barely dying...
> an over population of stars
> in a small amount of space led
> to the explosion of the creation of
> MORE space.
> 
> It also created a continue expansion of
> more space, black holes to control
> star population, shorter life span
> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> 
> So, without using mathematics...
> you just simply..
> "picture" it.
> 
> You think in terms of a
> photograph.
> 
> Picture..a night sky
> with so many stars
> so close to each other
> you can barely can see
> the night dark black sky.
> 
> Like a crowded Japanese train.
> http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
> 
> But with stars.
> 
> 
> 
> The Starmaker

==============================
its more than time for you and others
TO STOP BOGGLING YOUR AND OTHERS  BALLS  
WITH SPACE 

JUST FORGET IT !!nd save your precious time 
we are not in voodoo  metaphysics
 
SPACE IS NOTHING EXCEPT HOSTING MASS !!
========================================
NO MASS - THE ONLY MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS !!!
=============================================
Y.Porat
=====================================

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#536721

From	HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-01 08:01 -0800
Message-ID	<e0a98e9b-878d-4f6f-91ac-0e63bae1ea66@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#535964

The Bang Bang was simply 
an explosion of... 
'MORE Space'. 
----

No. All space was present at the big bang

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#536838

From	benj <none@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-01 18:20 -0500
Message-ID	<vXp7y.126070$og6.62106@fx06.iad>
In reply to	#536721

On 12/01/2015 11:01 AM, HVAC wrote:
>
> The Bang Bang was simply
> an explosion of...
> 'MORE Space'.
> ----
>
> No. All space was present at the big bang
>
No Big Bang. BBB!

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