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  scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-16 10:59 -0800
    Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 14:08 -0600
      Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-16 15:33 -0500
        Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 14:48 -0600
        Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-16 20:59 +0000
      Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:34 -0800
    Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-16 16:11 -0600
    Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-16 19:10 -0800
      Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 21:15 -0600
        Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-16 22:27 -0500
        Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-17 03:48 +0000
        Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 23:25 -0500
        Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-17 07:52 -0600
          Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-17 16:57 -0800
            Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:14 -0600
              Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-18 02:14 +0000
        Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-11-17 19:42 -0600
        Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Puppet_Sock <puppet_sock@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-19 07:09 -0800
          Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 09:50 -0600
            Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-19 23:37 -0500
              Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-20 11:49 -0500
          Re: scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 21:53 +0100

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#533550 — scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-16 10:59 -0800
Subjectscientists-to-be-grilled-by-congress
Message-ID<564A2774.303D@ix.netcom.com>
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/16/climate-scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congressional-investigators-but-their-e-mails-are-still-off-limits/



It's about time they go after those crooks....You're next!

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#533584

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-16 14:08 -0600
Message-ID<kIOdndlUDbc9qtfLnZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#533550

   Which do you hole in higher esteem, people, in general,
   or congressmen?


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#533596

Fromkefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com>
Date2015-11-16 15:33 -0500
Message-ID<dafk4btbenq5sp3vbajhfu8ve391dql9m7@4ax.com>
In reply to#533584
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 14:08:00 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
wrote:

>   Which do you hole in higher esteem, people, in general,
>   or congressmen?

         Are you using a speech recognition device?   :-)


        Why would emails be "off limits"?





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#533601

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-16 14:48 -0600
Message-ID<kIOdndtUDbeK3NfLnZ2dnUU7-VEAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#533596
On 11/16/15 2:33 PM, kefischer wrote:
>
>           Are you using a speech recognition device?   :-)
>

    Sorry about that -- The question to staramaker was, "Which do you
    hold in higher esteem, people, in general, or congressmen?


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#533604

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-11-16 20:59 +0000
Message-ID<olsphc-3om.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#533596
In sci.physics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 14:08:00 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>   Which do you hole in higher esteem, people, in general,
>>   or congressmen?
> 
>          Are you using a speech recognition device?   :-)
> 
> 
>         Why would emails be "off limits"?

Looking behind the curtain is not allowed.


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#533858

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-17 14:34 -0800
Message-ID<4bf0b7cc-f4f3-432f-ae4d-521ae6db5ed6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#533584
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:08:05 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Which do you hole in higher esteem, people, in general,
>    or congressmen?
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Best the ask NASA to show its books.Best they ask Rick Scott to show his books.See where 1`3,5 trillion the banks did with all that money.How to stop Progress Enerrgy from killing children.Keep Severn Trent Avatar from shooting black children in the back.etc  TreBert

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#533639

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-11-16 16:11 -0600
Message-ID<n2dka0$pfm$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#533550
On 11/16/2015 12:59 PM, The Starmaker wrote:

>
>
> It's about time they go after those crooks....You're next!
>

grilled ?
like shrimp on the barbie ?
with flava beans ?

they put out false religion,

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#533702

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-16 19:10 -0800
Message-ID<564A9AA0.4424@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#533550
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/16/climate-scientists-to-be-grilled-by-congressional-investigators-but-their-e-mails-are-still-off-limits/
> 
> It's about time they go after those crooks....You're next!



Okay, mabye yous don't understand what it means...

it means, by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
kaput.

Yous crooks are gonna have to come up with a new crises for next year...


wadagot?

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#533703

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-16 21:15 -0600
Message-ID<Bb6dnQkC6_lcBtfLnZ2dnUU7-U2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#533702
On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
> kaput


   There's a problem -- Energy Imbalance

   The earth is absorbing more energy from the sun than it's giving
   up due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. The excess
   energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous. The total energy
   imbalance now is 0.58 ± 0.15 W/m^2.

   By the laws of Thermodynamics, the earth has to warm, probably for
   centuries.


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#533704

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2015-11-16 22:27 -0500
Message-ID<td7l4bpnpelcer3v57l1fet11aepcqfi5o@4ax.com>
In reply to#533703
Snipped groups that need this silliness even less than sci.physics
does ... they have other charters, Sam.

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:15:13 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

>On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
>> kaput
>
>
>   There's a problem -- 

Stupidity overload.

With all the media in Paris looking for a story ... any story ... be
on the lookout for a "Greenies Gone Wild" exposé.

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#533707

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-11-17 03:48 +0000
Message-ID<1mkqhc-r4p.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#533703
In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
>> kaput
> 
> 
>   There's a problem -- Energy Imbalance
> 
>   The earth is absorbing more energy from the sun than it's giving
>   up due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. The excess
>   energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous. The total energy
>   imbalance now is 0.58 ? 0.15 W/m^2.

How does this stay constant to two decimal places year after year?


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#533712

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-16 23:25 -0500
Message-ID<V_x2y.82904$qL.38794@fx15.iad>
In reply to#533703
On 11/16/2015 10:15 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
>> kaput
>
>
>    There's a problem -- Energy Imbalance
>
>    The earth is absorbing more energy from the sun than it's giving
>    up due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. The excess
>    energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous. The total energy
>    imbalance now is 0.58 ± 0.15 W/m^2.
>
>    By the laws of Thermodynamics, the earth has to warm, probably for
>    centuries.

In Wormley physics earth is absorbing "enormous" energy but temperature 
is not going up! Oh well, maybe it will warm centuries later! Sam knows 
a lot about science!

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#533757

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-11-17 07:52 -0600
Message-ID<n2fbfr$9pq$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#533703
On 11/16/2015 9:15 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
>> kaput
>
>
>    There's a problem -- Energy Imbalance
>
>    The earth is absorbing more energy from the sun than it's giving
>    up due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. The excess
>    energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous. The total energy
>    imbalance now is 0.58 ± 0.15 W/m^2.
>

and that *estimate* is yet to be verified, new sattilite at L1 will be 
able to measure the energy outflow.



the center of the earth is about 6,000 C

The Earth’s Centre is 1000 Degrees Hotter than Previously Thought

http://www.esrf.eu/news/general/Earth-Center-Hotter

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#533878

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-17 16:57 -0800
Message-ID<564BCD0E.2CBD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#533757
gilber34 wrote:
> 
> On 11/16/2015 9:15 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
> >> kaput
> >
> >
> >    There's a problem -- Energy Imbalance
> >
> >    The earth is absorbing more energy from the sun than it's giving
> >    up due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. The excess
> >    energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous. The total energy
> >    imbalance now is 0.58 ± 0.15 W/m^2.
> >
> 
> and that *estimate* is yet to be verified, new sattilite at L1 will be
> able to measure the energy outflow.
> 
> the center of the earth is about 6,000 C
> 
> The Earth’s Centre is 1000 Degrees Hotter than Previously Thought
> 
> http://www.esrf.eu/news/general/Earth-Center-Hotter


Well, they shouldn't use a "Previously Thought" to determine the tempature of the earth's centre...don't
they have machines to measure this stuff...i don't trust their thoughts.

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#533880

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-17 19:14 -0600
Message-ID<VLWdnaONmqidTNbLnZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#533878
On 11/17/15 6:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> new sattilite at L1 will be
>>able to measure the energy outflow.

   You must be daft, as L1 is many time further out than the moon.


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#533893

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-11-18 02:14 +0000
Message-ID<3i3thc-434.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#533880
In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/15 6:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> new sattilite at L1 will be
>>>able to measure the energy outflow.
> 
>   You must be daft, as L1 is many time further out than the moon.
 
So what, do you think the clouds between the Earth and L1 would get
in the way?

 

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#533887

FromDavid Staup <dstaup@charter.net>
Date2015-11-17 19:42 -0600
Message-ID<n2gkt7$jpl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#533703
On 11/16/2015 9:15 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
>> kaput
>
>
>    There's a problem -- Energy Imbalance
>
>    The earth is absorbing more energy from the sun than it's giving
>    up due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. The excess
>    energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous. The total energy
>    imbalance now is 0.58 ± 0.15 W/m^2.
>
>    By the laws of Thermodynamics, the earth has to warm, probably for
>    centuries.
>
>
chuckle, vat an idiot

you think that the laws of thermodynamics are the only thing in play here!

look again dim whit

chaos

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#534039

FromPuppet_Sock <puppet_sock@hotmail.com>
Date2015-11-19 07:09 -0800
Message-ID<c12eac29-e209-43a2-b1c2-887346ea3392@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#533703
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 10:15:17 PM UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
> > kaput
> 
> 
>    There's a problem -- Energy Imbalance
> 
>    The earth is absorbing more energy from the sun than it's giving
>    up due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. The excess
>    energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous. The total energy
>    imbalance now is 0.58 ± 0.15 W/m^2.
> 
>    By the laws of Thermodynamics, the earth has to warm, probably for
>    centuries.

Sammmy Sammy Sammy.

You obviously are stating this wrong. If the net energy
imbalance of the Earth were 0.5 W/m^2 it would be 15 MJ
per square meter per year. 15 MJ of "imbalance" would
do a lot more than warm the surface by some tiny fraction
of a degree.

Of course, you want to say something else. But you don't
understand it well enough to explain what it is. You
got that number off some web site where you looked at
the words but did not comprehend them.

And you won't comprehend them. Your activity here is not
one that involves comprehension.

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#534044

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-19 09:50 -0600
Message-ID<HICdnQ7q1vddctDLnZ2dnUU7-SmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#534039
On 11/19/15 9:09 AM, Puppet_Sock wrote:
> On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 10:15:17 PM UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
>>> kaput
>>
>>
>>     There's a problem -- Energy Imbalance
>>
>>     The earth is absorbing more energy from the sun than it's giving
>>     up due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. The excess
>>     energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous. The total energy
>>     imbalance now is 0.58 ± 0.15 W/m^2.
>>
>>     By the laws of Thermodynamics, the earth has to warm, probably for
>>     centuries.
>
> Sammmy Sammy Sammy.
>
> You obviously are stating this wrong. If the net energy
> imbalance of the Earth were 0.5 W/m^2 it would be 15 MJ
> per square meter per year. 15 MJ of "imbalance" would
> do a lot more than warm the surface by some tiny fraction
> of a degree.

   I wonder what thickness you envisioning for the surface
   of the earth, and the thermal conductivity of water, ice,
   snow, soil and rock.

>
> Of course, you want to say something else. But you don't
> understand it well enough to explain what it is. You
> got that number off some web site where you looked at
> the words but did not comprehend them.
>
> And you won't comprehend them. Your activity here is not
> one that involves comprehension.
>


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#534161

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2015-11-19 23:37 -0500
Message-ID<uq8t4b5f7pdu0ka9e0dqcp02grntjcc13h@4ax.com>
In reply to#534044
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 09:50:24 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

>On 11/19/15 9:09 AM, Puppet_Sock wrote:
>> On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 10:15:17 PM UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 11/16/15 9:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> by January...the global warming crises will be over, gone,
>>>> kaput
>>>
>>>
>>>     There's a problem -- Energy Imbalance
>>>
>>>     The earth is absorbing more energy from the sun than it's giving
>>>     up due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. The excess
>>>     energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous. The total energy
>>>     imbalance now is 0.58 ± 0.15 W/m^2.
>>>
>>>     By the laws of Thermodynamics, the earth has to warm, probably for
>>>     centuries.
>>
>> Sammmy Sammy Sammy.
>>
>> You obviously are stating this wrong. If the net energy
>> imbalance of the Earth were 0.5 W/m^2 it would be 15 MJ
>> per square meter per year. 15 MJ of "imbalance" would
>> do a lot more than warm the surface by some tiny fraction
>> of a degree.
>
>   I wonder what thickness you envisioning for the surface
>   of the earth, and the thermal conductivity of water, ice,
>   snow, soil and rock.

And *you* would do *what* with this information?

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