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INFINITY

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-11-10 23:55 -0800
Last post2015-11-16 16:47 -0800
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  INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-10 23:55 -0800
    Re: INFINITY HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-11-11 19:57 +1100
      Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 08:46 -0600
        Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 11:55 -0800
          Re: INFINITY David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-11-11 14:19 -0600
            Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 13:12 -0800
    INFINITY HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 06:20 -0800
      Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 08:40 -0600
        Re: INFINITY benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 12:01 -0500
          Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 13:16 -0800
            Re: INFINITY gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-11 21:21 -0600
              Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 19:40 -0800
              Re: INFINITY je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-11-12 02:02 -0800
                Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 09:39 -0800
                  Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 11:47 -0600
                    Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 23:25 -0800
                      Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 09:09 -0600
                        Re: INFINITY kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-13 15:52 -0500
                          Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 15:07 -0600
                          Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 15:11 -0600
                            Re: INFINITY kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-13 16:39 -0500
                              Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 16:11 -0600
                                Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 14:43 -0800
                                  Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 17:24 -0600
                                Re: INFINITY Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-13 23:44 +0100
                                Re: INFINITY kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-13 19:39 -0500
                                  Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 18:50 -0600
                                    Re: INFINITY kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-14 04:39 -0500
                              Re: INFINITY Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 14:48 -0800
                                Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 15:05 -0800
                      Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-13 15:59 -0800
                        Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-14 11:46 -0800
                          Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-14 12:04 -0800
                            Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 14:27 -0800
                              Re: INFINITY pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-15 14:35 -0800
                                Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 15:07 -0800
                                  Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 16:23 -0800
                                    Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 21:56 -0800
                                      Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-16 11:16 -0800
                                        Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:29 -0600
                                        Re: INFINITY dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-16 15:50 -0500
                                          Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-16 13:48 -0800
                                            Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-16 14:45 -0800
                                        Re: INFINITY HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 15:39 -0800
                                        Re: INFINITY pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-16 20:14 -0800
                          Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-15 14:57 -0800
                  Re: INFINITY benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 14:06 -0500
                    Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 11:42 -0800
                Re: INFINITY benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 13:15 -0500
                  Re: INFINITY Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-12 10:26 -0800
            Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 19:37 -0800
        Re: INFINITY HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 10:27 -0800
          Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 11:55 -0800
            Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 13:14 -0800
              Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. "Efftard J. Smith" <invalid@example.com> - 2015-11-12 18:10 -0800
                Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 08:15 -0800
                  Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 12:35 -0500
                    Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 04:15 -0800
                      Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 14:24 -0500
                        Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 18:21 -0800
                          Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 04:16 -0500
                            Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 03:10 -0800
                          Re: The _observable_ universe is finite. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:26 -0800
      Re: INFINITY benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 11:59 -0500
    Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 08:43 -0600
    Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-11 18:25 -0800
      Re: INFINITY David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-11-12 13:04 -0600
        Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 11:54 -0800
          Re: INFINITY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-12 22:51 -0800
    Re: INFINITY "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 10:16 -0800
      Re: INFINITY Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 15:12 -0600
    Re: INFINITY Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-16 15:58 -0800
      Re: INFINITY "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 16:47 -0800

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#533247 — Re: The _observable_ universe is finite.

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-15 04:16 -0500
SubjectRe: The _observable_ universe is finite.
Message-ID<H3Y1y.57950$dc2.44139@fx24.iad>
In reply to#533188
On 11/14/2015 09:21 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Well don't forget that you DID tell everyone that you had blocked me
> some months ago. Would you care to re parse that statement or appear
> as either a liar or a fool?

You talking to me, punk?

Just because you were blocked months ago doesn't mean you are blocked 
now. I understand that this kind of logical thinking is beyond your 
abilities.

Hey, I drove you out of this group once and can do it again if I so 
choose. For now, however, I'm just enjoying making fun of the mentally 
ill.  (You)

Saying you are moderator does not make it so.

If you are actually the gummint "moderator" of this newsgroup, then 
block all my posts about you to prove it. Bwahahaha! You can't! Your 
fantasy life meets reality with a thud!
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#533257 — Re: The _observable_ universe is finite.

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-15 03:10 -0800
SubjectRe: The _observable_ universe is finite.
Message-ID<562fe5d0-4736-479c-ac74-ca65ca51d13e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#533247
No. Only a coward would block someone.

Oh wait... How long did you block me for?

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#533616 — Re: The _observable_ universe is finite.

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-16 13:26 -0800
SubjectRe: The _observable_ universe is finite.
Message-ID<270820c5-abf6-42db-bfdc-27cd4dc34fff@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#533188
in deed, Universe is finitely observable;
known equals finitey

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#532103

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-11 11:59 -0500
Message-ID<5uK0y.57105$WF.53459@fx30.iad>
In reply to#532076
On 11/11/2015 09:20 AM, HVAC wrote:
> The universe is finite yet unbounded. Since objects near the end of our ability to see are moving away from us at speeds approaching light, this effectively makes the universe, to us, infinite
>
Garbage! Infinity and "infinite" things do not exist. They are total 
fantasy. But H&V's world is total fantasy. To him is fantasies are hi 
reality. You are as dumb as Glazier! He thinks he's a great thinker too!

Einstein said the only thing he was sure was infinite was human stupidity.

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#532078

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-11 08:43 -0600
Message-ID<R4CdnVDxCtuCyd7LnZ2dnUU7-TkAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#532033
On 11/11/15 1:55 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...

   It's just a concept...

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#532254

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-11 18:25 -0800
Message-ID<5643F89D.4D8F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#532033
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
> 
> Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
> 
> Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
> 
> If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
> 
> I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
> you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
> 
> or
> 
>  a/one google page is determined by google's entire network.


Even Isaac Newton (the last smartest guy on earth) wasn't sure
about...infinity.


what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than them
both???



The Starmaker


after Isaac Newton died (the last smartest guy on earth), there was no
one smartest since..
it's downhill for you guys, ain't it?



Born: January 4, 1643

371 years
10 months
12 days ago
18 hours
23 minutes
58 seconds
ago, to be precise.

was the last smartest guy on earth.

It's over for you guys, ain't it?

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#532398

FromDavid Staup <dstaup@charter.net>
Date2015-11-12 13:04 -0600
Message-ID<n22nnr$e13$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#532254
On 11/11/2015 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
>>
>> Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
>>
>> Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
>>
>> If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
>>
>> I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
>> you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
>>
>> or
>>
>>   a/one google page is determined by google's entire network.
>
>
> Even Isaac Newton (the last smartest guy on earth) wasn't sure
> about...infinity.
>
>
> what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than them
> both???
>
>
>
> The Starmaker
>
>
> after Isaac Newton died (the last smartest guy on earth), there was no
> one smartest since..
> it's downhill for you guys, ain't it?
>
>
>
> Born: January 4, 1643
>
> 371 years
> 10 months
> 12 days ago
> 18 hours
> 23 minutes
> 58 seconds
> ago, to be precise.
>
> was the last smartest guy on earth.
>
> It's over for you guys, ain't it?
>
chuckle
idiotic dribble

having prostrate  problems?

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#532430

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-12 11:54 -0800
Message-ID<5644EE73.3E4@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#532398
David Staup wrote:
> 
> On 11/11/2015 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
> >>
> >> Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
> >>
> >> Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
> >>
> >> If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
> >>
> >> I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
> >> you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >>   a/one google page is determined by google's entire network.
> >
> >
> > Even Isaac Newton (the last smartest guy on earth) wasn't sure
> > about...infinity.
> >
> >
> > what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than them
> > both???
> >
> >
> >
> > The Starmaker
> >
> >
> > after Isaac Newton died (the last smartest guy on earth), there was no
> > one smartest since..
> > it's downhill for you guys, ain't it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Born: January 4, 1643
> >
> > 371 years
> > 10 months
> > 12 days ago
> > 18 hours
> > 23 minutes
> > 58 seconds
> > ago, to be precise.
> >
> > was the last smartest guy on earth.
> >
> > It's over for you guys, ain't it?
> >
> chuckle
> idiotic dribble
> 
> having prostrate  problems?

371 years pass by and this is the best you got?

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#532657

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-12 22:51 -0800
Message-ID<56458889.68E6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#532430
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> David Staup wrote:
> >
> > On 11/11/2015 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
> > >>
> > >> Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
> > >>
> > >> Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
> > >>
> > >> If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
> > >>
> > >> I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
> > >> you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
> > >>
> > >> or
> > >>
> > >>   a/one google page is determined by google's entire network.
> > >
> > >
> > > Even Isaac Newton (the last smartest guy on earth) wasn't sure
> > > about...infinity.
> > >
> > >
> > > what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than them
> > > both???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Starmaker
> > >
> > >
> > > after Isaac Newton died (the last smartest guy on earth), there was no
> > > one smartest since..
> > > it's downhill for you guys, ain't it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Born: January 4, 1643
> > >
> > > 371 years
> > > 10 months
> > > 12 days ago
> > > 18 hours
> > > 23 minutes
> > > 58 seconds
> > > ago, to be precise.
> > >
> > > was the last smartest guy on earth.
> > >
> > > It's over for you guys, ain't it?
> > >
> > chuckle
> > idiotic dribble
> >
> > having prostrate  problems?
> 
> 371 years pass by and this is the best you got?



i mean, can anybody give me the name of one person who is smarter than
Isaac Newton?

No such person exist..right?

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#532776

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-13 10:16 -0800
Message-ID<912f9092-d01b-4b2c-b1a2-3f9263eb4d4f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#532033
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:54:47 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
> 
> 
> Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
> 
> 
> Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
> 
> If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
> 
> 
> I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
> you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
> 
> 
> or
> 
> on a google page is determined by google's entire network.

In Reality there are two universes.Call them "INNER and OUTER" Inner universe is infinite.We live in the outer and it is finite.Crazy thing is Einstein for 50 years would not go with the quantum universe.Was it that curved space did not fit well with Planck sizes and energies? Good thinking tells us quantum universe needed no big bang.It had infinite time going for it before it created the macro realm. Bohr in my thinking was better in science than Einstein,and QM is man's best theory. It is a particle theory.It will tell us how all that is came to be. In quantum universe it came as a wimper.It produced wimps. It needed only space virtual particle and the constant force of gravity.These sub particles became real when given spin.A spin that created wobble,and thus space waves in every direction.  Gravity was the force,so you know why G=EMC^2  I am working on the source of gravity.I know inertia fits.Acceleration fits.Circular motion fits.   Well if you study this post 5 of my best theories are in it. Will add to it,and you too. TreBert

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#532824

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-13 15:12 -0600
Message-ID<qNOdnRJ18rWyz9vLnZ2dnUU7-eWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#532776
On 11/13/15 12:16 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> In Reality there are two universes.

   No.

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#533665

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-11-16 15:58 -0800
Message-ID<3be52759-09c6-4279-8d66-4ada616e5c46@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#532033
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:54:47 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
> 
> 
> Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
> 
> 
> Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
> 
> If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
> 
> 
> I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
> you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
> 
> 
> or
> 
> on a google page is determined by google's entire network.


"Actual infinity does not exist."  -  Poincare.

Double-A

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#533675

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-16 16:47 -0800
Message-ID<4cfcf5c4-8642-4329-8c53-4155d4d97d91@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#533665
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 3:58:28 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:54:47 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Okay, you guys seem to get this "infinity" thing all wrong...
> > 
> > 
> > Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "...I'm not sure about the universe."
> > 
> > 
> > Im other words, Einstein is "not sure" that the universe is infinite.
> > 
> > If he ain't sure, what makes you guys who are dumber than him.. more surer than him???
> > 
> > 
> > I mean, if you look that way..all the way,
> > you will see the back of your head. that is finite.
> > 
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > on a google page is determined by google's entire network.
> 
> 
> "Actual infinity does not exist."  -  Poincare.
> 
> Double-A

How many real numbers are 
there between zero and one?

All of them!

For a mathematical Platonist, 
of a variety, "numbers" exist, 
and, for some formalists, 
"infinite" numbers (in quantity 
and magnitude) exist.  For some 
physicists, a mathematical universe 
hypothesis has physical objects 
are most concretely "mathematical".  
As mathematical objects, the functions 
between the physical objects are 
physical object, from any point to 
any point and etcetera ad infinitum.

The universe is infinite or you'd 
be a dot!  And:  you are not a dot.

(Flexes, points.)

The universe is infinite 
and infinite sets are equivalent.

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