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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Started byChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
First post2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
Last post2015-08-12 12:35 +0800
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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 10:14 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 13:01 -0400
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:26 +0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:24 +0800
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:58 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:23 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:48 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:13 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 20:57 +0800
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:39 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:48 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 15:26 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:26 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 12:51 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:03 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-12 17:49 -0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 18:08 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-13 00:27 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 10:19 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:11 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:31 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:25 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:02 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:46 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:45 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:48 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:15 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:15 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 00:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:22 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:30 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 10:27 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:50 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:28 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:32 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:49 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:48 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:00 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:24 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:45 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:33 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:35 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 11:40 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:12 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:53 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:57 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:59 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 08:10 +0800
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:42 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:26 +0800
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:17 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 10:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 00:44 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 13:19 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:29 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 00:18 -0700
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:39 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 12:23 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:57 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:30 +0800
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:31 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 07:47 +0800
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:40 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:19 +0800
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:58 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0800
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:00 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 12:58 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 12:56 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 12:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 14:34 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:33 +0800
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:47 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:34 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:36 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-13 13:10 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:25 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:49 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-18 11:55 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:38 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:00 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:41 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:08 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:04 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 15:38 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:57 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:29 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:44 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:23 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:14 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:55 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:00 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:49 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:46 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:18 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-14 03:19 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:25 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:34 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:30 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:59 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 15:03 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:30 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:19 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:36 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:53 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:20 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-12 10:01 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:16 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 20:22 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:49 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 14:38 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:53 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:51 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800

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#515520

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
Message-ID<53qdta53m563c5sf1n46vlekejo9a023br@4ax.com>
In reply to#515442
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:11:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<ih9ctalcbfnt9vhgm2be2tr49b4jhcumiv@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:56:46 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:23:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><se0atatjtci96j7u46mm4ch5kk9qjippb4@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>niunian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things.
>>>>
>>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported
>>>>function to deities.
>>>>
>>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who
>>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  The
>>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if
>>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve.
>>>
>>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. 
>>>
>>>God is creator of all things.
>
>>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever
>>existed.
>
>At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head.
>

You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and
get a ladder.  And a shovel.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#515832

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-22 14:12 -0500
Message-ID<8bihtadv49h557d3h9p8mbnn2umk7nv5hh@4ax.com>
In reply to#515520
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:00:21 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:11:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><ih9ctalcbfnt9vhgm2be2tr49b4jhcumiv@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:56:46 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:23:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><se0atatjtci96j7u46mm4ch5kk9qjippb4@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>niunian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things.
>>>>>
>>>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported
>>>>>function to deities.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who
>>>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  The
>>>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if
>>>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve.
>>>>
>>>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. 
>>>>
>>>>God is creator of all things.
>>
>>>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever
>>>existed.
>>
>>At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head.

>You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and
>get a ladder.  And a shovel.

You're in a hole.  Where are you going to get a ladder and a shovel?

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#516003

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-23 03:53 -0400
Message-ID<ptuita5c6iamfmv34399clveq3q1ibik5t@4ax.com>
In reply to#515832
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:12:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<8bihtadv49h557d3h9p8mbnn2umk7nv5hh@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:00:21 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:11:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><ih9ctalcbfnt9vhgm2be2tr49b4jhcumiv@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:56:46 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:23:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><se0atatjtci96j7u46mm4ch5kk9qjippb4@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported
>>>>>>function to deities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who
>>>>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  The
>>>>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if
>>>>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve.
>>>>>
>>>>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. 
>>>>>
>>>>>God is creator of all things.
>>>
>>>>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever
>>>>existed.
>>>
>>>At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head.
>
>>You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and
>>get a ladder.  And a shovel.
>
>You're in a hole.

Not at all.

>  Where are you going to get a ladder and a shovel?
>

The same place you got your god.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#516103

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-23 10:57 -0500
Message-ID<sarjtadalabjesdhv3q5i1qohoqa4a0bjl@4ax.com>
In reply to#516003
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:53:00 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:12:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><8bihtadv49h557d3h9p8mbnn2umk7nv5hh@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:00:21 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:11:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><ih9ctalcbfnt9vhgm2be2tr49b4jhcumiv@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:56:46 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:23:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><se0atatjtci96j7u46mm4ch5kk9qjippb4@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported
>>>>>>>function to deities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who
>>>>>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  The
>>>>>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if
>>>>>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>God is creator of all things.
>>>>
>>>>>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever
>>>>>existed.
>>>>
>>>>At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head.
>>
>>>You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and
>>>get a ladder.  And a shovel.
>>
>>You're in a hole.
>
>Not at all.

You just accepted that you were.

>>  Where are you going to get a ladder and a shovel?
>>
>
>The same place you got your god.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#516276

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-23 16:59 -0400
Message-ID<cucktap7p83rcnckm0loasjh592e85fd1c@4ax.com>
In reply to#516103
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:57:56 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<sarjtadalabjesdhv3q5i1qohoqa4a0bjl@4ax.com> wrote:



>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported
>>>>>>>>function to deities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who
>>>>>>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  The
>>>>>>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if
>>>>>>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>God is creator of all things.
>>>>>
>>>>>>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever
>>>>>>existed.
>>>>>
>>>>>At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head.
>>>
>>>>You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and
>>>>get a ladder.  And a shovel.
>>>
>>>You're in a hole.
>>
>>Not at all.
>
>You just accepted that you were.

Amusing.

I was discussing what you pile so high and deep.  That smelly stuff.

>
>>>  Where are you going to get a ladder and a shovel?
>>>
>>
>>The same place you got your god.
>

No snappy comeback?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#514136

Fromwdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
Message-ID<mqp6u5$ah8$1@panix2.panix.com>
In reply to#513481
In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:

> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>
>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>
>> Um, what definition is that?
>
> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
> world of death.

And what definition is _that_?

-- wds

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#514200

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
Message-ID<mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#514136
On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>
>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>
>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>
>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>
>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>> world of death.
>
> And what definition is _that_?

It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all 
living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of 
living will cease to exist.

>
> -- wds
>

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#514275

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
Message-ID<d3bj8sFag85U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#514200
On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>
>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>
>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>> world of death.
>>
>> And what definition is _that_?
>
> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
> living will cease to exist.

<looks around>

No god, and everything is still here...

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#514529

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
Message-ID<mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#514275
On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>
>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>> world of death.
>>>
>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>
>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>> living will cease to exist.
>
> <looks around>
>
> No god, and everything is still here...

The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, 
there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's 
called a realization from the within.

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#514596

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
Message-ID<itb3tapsfbkti28g2cgndc14k19p0dkfda@4ax.com>
In reply to#514529
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>> world of death.
>>>>
>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>
>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>> living will cease to exist.
>>
>> <looks around>
>>
>> No god, and everything is still here...
>
>The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, 
>there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's 
>called a realization from the within.

It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#514615

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
Message-ID<mqsjdi$7bt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#514596
On 2015-08-17 05:56 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>
>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>
>>> <looks around>
>>>
>>> No god, and everything is still here...
>>
>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around,
>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's
>> called a realization from the within.
>
> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.

Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was 
from the within?

>
> --
> Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
>
> Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially
> those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.
>
> Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
> guaranteed above average income for every person.
>
> Every illegal alien is a criminal.
> No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
> Deportation upon identification as the only option.
>
> If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
> before you run into me.
>

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#514911

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
Message-ID<v7p4talkqbn8j31s961hmht11oikhaoek8@4ax.com>
In reply to#514615
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:49:19 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdi$7bt$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-17 05:56 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>>
>>>> <looks around>
>>>>
>>>> No god, and everything is still here...
>>>
>>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around,
>>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's
>>> called a realization from the within.
>>
>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>
>Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was 
>from the within?

I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#514993

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
Message-ID<mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#514911
On 2015-08-18 06:50 AM, Attila < wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:49:19 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdi$7bt$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-17 05:56 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> <looks around>
>>>>>
>>>>> No god, and everything is still here...
>>>>
>>>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around,
>>>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's
>>>> called a realization from the within.
>>>
>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>
>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>from the within?
>
> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.

I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same 
way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The 
spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.

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#514999

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
Message-ID<5fn5tahgjehhh0o2ip3hbkffu90qvri5m8@4ax.com>
In reply to#514993
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>
>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>from the within?
>>
>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>
>I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same 
>way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The 
>spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.

As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
existed.  That still holds true.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#515143

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
Message-ID<mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#514999
On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>
>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>> >from the within?
>>>
>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>
>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>
> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
> existed.  That still holds true.

I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.

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#515180

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
Message-ID<4sf8tap9a9com2ur4ta9ro498p65vl0frl@4ax.com>
In reply to#515143
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>> >from the within?
>>>>
>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>>
>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>>
>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
>> existed.  That still holds true.
>
>I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.

But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying.  For most of
history I would have long since been executed for heresy.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#515205

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
Message-ID<mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#515180
On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>>> >from the within?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>>>
>>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
>>> existed.  That still holds true.
>>
>> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.
>
> But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying.  For most of
> history I would have long since been executed for heresy.

Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here 
by being wilfully blind?


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#515381

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
Message-ID<vi5btal4pmc4pcmcbn5en5rqrco730i6lr@4ax.com>
In reply to#515205
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:41:05 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>>>> >from the within?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>>>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>>>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
>>>> existed.  That still holds true.
>>>
>>> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.
>>
>> But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying.  For most of
>> history I would have long since been executed for heresy.
>
>Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here 
>by being wilfully blind?
>
>

Not at all.  It would be a bit difficult to do anything to me since I
am not here physically.  

I am far from blind.  I simply have not been brainwashed to accept
that which has no supporting evidence.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#515404

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
Message-ID<mr4p1l$2oe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#515381
On 2015-08-20 04:58 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:41:05 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>>>>> >from the within?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>>>>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>>>>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
>>>>> existed.  That still holds true.
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.
>>>
>>> But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying.  For most of
>>> history I would have long since been executed for heresy.
>>
>> Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here
>> by being wilfully blind?
>>
>>
>
> Not at all.  It would be a bit difficult to do anything to me since I
> am not here physically.
>
> I am far from blind.  I simply have not been brainwashed to accept
> that which has no supporting evidence.
>

And yet, you don't appear to be able to understand my rather simple 
philosophical point of view. To me, that counts as wilful blindness on 
your part.

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#515521

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
Message-ID<m5qdtatq3aj72102pnfn39g7lhv6oj4gte@4ax.com>
In reply to#515404
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:44:13 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mr4p1l$2oe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-20 04:58 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:41:05 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>>>>>> >from the within?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>>>>>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>>>>>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
>>>>>> existed.  That still holds true.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.
>>>>
>>>> But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying.  For most of
>>>> history I would have long since been executed for heresy.
>>>
>>> Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here
>>> by being wilfully blind?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not at all.  It would be a bit difficult to do anything to me since I
>> am not here physically.
>>
>> I am far from blind.  I simply have not been brainwashed to accept
>> that which has no supporting evidence.
>>
>
>And yet, you don't appear to be able to understand my rather simple 
>philosophical point of view. To me, that counts as wilful blindness on 
>your part.

You are free to count anything whatever you like.  That has nothing to
do with either accuracy or reality.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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