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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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First post2015-07-28 16:09 -0500
Last post2015-07-30 04:10 -0400
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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:09 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-29 03:55 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:23 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:08 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 15:18 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:00 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:08 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:29 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:17 -0600
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:38 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 09:56 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 11:27 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:17 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 19:33 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 10:39 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-02 11:51 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 12:04 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 12:18 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-02 14:01 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 15:05 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 16:12 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-02 10:15 -0600
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:19 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-03 03:11 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-03 09:04 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:42 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-03 18:39 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:01 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-04 15:36 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-03 17:56 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:02 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-04 18:54 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:57 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-05 12:56 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-06 19:27 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-06 17:44 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:23 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:04 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:49 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:12 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:17 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:48 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:41 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:11 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:51 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:19 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 11:48 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:01 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:26 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:03 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:48 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:44 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:59 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:06 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:51 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:19 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:19 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:54 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:46 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:15 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:53 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:15 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:18 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:02 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:43 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 01:10 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 20:42 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 22:28 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:07 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:14 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:45 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-07 09:18 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:16 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 16:19 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:21 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:26 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:46 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-08 04:57 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 08:32 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 14:58 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-08 18:12 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:13 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:13 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 08:16 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:11 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-08 14:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 14:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:38 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 00:00 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:19 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 12:22 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 15:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-07 15:48 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:26 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:42 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:58 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 12:59 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:21 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:54 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 13:14 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:31 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:47 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:22 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:55 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:17 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 11:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:00 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:19 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-16 12:24 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:03 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:45 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-20 12:40 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-20 17:58 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:50 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 13:58 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:46 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:38 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:44 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-23 16:28 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 08:51 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 06:50 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "NotTroll2Ol5" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-08-21 10:50 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 11:53 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "NotTroll2Ol5" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-08-21 16:14 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-21 16:39 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 17:35 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:27 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:09 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:52 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 03:34 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 07:01 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 05:13 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-23 05:43 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:31 -0700
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:53 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 14:38 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 05:08 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-24 03:22 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:22 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-23 17:50 -0700
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 18:09 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 07:57 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:30 -0700
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 13:38 -0500
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 13:52 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 16:06 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 16:06 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 16:09 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 15:36 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 11:07 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 11:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:23 -0700
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 12:54 -0500
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 11:03 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 13:39 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 13:14 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 16:04 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 16:06 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. RedAcer <rredacer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:57 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 07:02 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. RedAcer <rredacer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 15:13 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:51 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. RedAcer <rredacer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:44 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-25 09:08 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:52 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:52 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 14:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 05:12 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-24 03:14 -0700
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:23 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:51 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:57 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:35 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:24 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-25 16:00 -0500
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:38 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-26 10:34 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:43 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-27 07:01 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:30 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-28 15:14 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 04:58 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-29 07:39 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 09:45 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 09:39 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 10:50 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 22:12 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 09:42 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:27 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-31 07:08 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 10:19 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:55 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-09-02 10:35 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-03 04:47 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:03 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-22 12:39 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:53 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:11 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:37 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 07:41 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-25 16:02 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-29 07:32 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-29 16:23 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 09:56 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 09:55 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-23 11:19 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:39 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:46 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 04:40 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 08:21 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:56 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 12:59 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:40 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 07:55 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-25 16:03 -0500
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-25 18:34 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 00:52 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:59 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-26 10:42 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 13:19 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-27 07:18 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 08:42 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-28 15:19 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-28 15:43 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-28 18:30 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-29 07:45 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-29 07:44 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 06:58 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-29 07:46 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-29 05:56 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 09:58 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-30 10:48 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 09:47 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:02 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:42 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-29 07:24 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:03 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:18 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 13:56 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 11:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:29 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 11:03 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:08 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 12:52 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 11:04 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 13:40 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:55 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:41 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 13:22 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:40 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 07:57 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-04 05:16 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:03 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:46 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:07 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:35 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:48 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:23 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:16 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-16 12:25 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-18 13:27 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-18 19:04 +0000
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 12:33 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:17 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:47 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:42 +0000
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:19 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-19 18:30 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 21:52 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 08:56 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 21:55 +0800
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 10:14 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 23:00 +0800
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 12:12 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 01:28 +0800
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:07 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:02 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:38 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-18 13:28 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:48 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:20 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:49 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:09 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:49 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-21 09:39 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:26 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 13:57 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:45 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:36 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:39 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:33 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:16 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-25 15:57 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:33 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-26 10:33 -0500
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:36 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-27 06:55 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:19 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-29 11:15 -0600
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-29 13:56 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-29 18:59 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-30 06:43 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:11 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-30 11:38 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-31 04:14 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:34 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:19 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-31 12:06 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-31 21:52 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 00:56 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-31 22:22 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-31 22:32 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 01:55 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-01 12:39 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:39 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:38 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:10 -0400

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#516066

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-08-23 05:43 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-2A7FE0.05432723082015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#516055
In article 
<charlie-gordon1492-790244.05135823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
 je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:

> In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
>  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
> > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> > 
> > >In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
> > > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> > >
> > >> >What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the universe all 
> > >> >by 
> > >> >it's
> > >> >own self.
> > >> 
> > >> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
> > >
> > >Because it is here?
> > 
> > How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
> 
> Because it is not a void.

How is THAT evidence that it was created?

-- 

JD

Išve officially given up trying to find the bottom 
of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom 
Rosario, Addicting Info

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#516149

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2015-08-23 10:31 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-9B23D8.10315523082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#516066
In article <hlwdjsd2-2A7FE0.05432723082015@news.giganews.com>,
 Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article 
> <charlie-gordon1492-790244.05135823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
>  je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> 
> > In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
> >  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
> > > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
> > > > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> >What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the universe 
> > > >> >all 
> > > >> >by 
> > > >> >it's
> > > >> >own self.
> > > >> 
> > > >> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
> > > >
> > > >Because it is here?
> > > 
> > > How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
> > 
> > Because it is not a void.
> 
> How is THAT evidence that it was created?

Because it was not and then it is. That is generally refered to as a creation. 
Like when wind shear creates tornadoes.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#516271

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-23 16:53 -0400
Message-ID<2mcktal5u3mvghc93m3uv259co6tha9fti@4ax.com>
In reply to#516149
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:31:55 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
<charlie-gordon1492-9B23D8.10315523082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
wrote:

>In article <hlwdjsd2-2A7FE0.05432723082015@news.giganews.com>,
> Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article 
>> <charlie-gordon1492-790244.05135823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
>>  je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
>> >  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
>> > > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > >In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
>> > > > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> >What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the universe 
>> > > >> >all 
>> > > >> >by 
>> > > >> >it's
>> > > >> >own self.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
>> > > >
>> > > >Because it is here?
>> > > 
>> > > How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
>> > 
>> > Because it is not a void.
>> 
>> How is THAT evidence that it was created?
>
>Because it was not and then it is. That is generally refered to as a creation. 
>Like when wind shear creates tornadoes.

Where is your evidence that it ever was not?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#516296

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2015-08-23 14:38 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-207C1E.14380823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#516271
In article <2mcktal5u3mvghc93m3uv259co6tha9fti@4ax.com>,
 Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:31:55 -0700, je suis charly
> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <charlie-gordon1492-9B23D8.10315523082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <hlwdjsd2-2A7FE0.05432723082015@news.giganews.com>,
> > Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article 
> >> <charlie-gordon1492-790244.05135823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> >>  je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
> >> >  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
> >> > > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> >> > > 
> >> > > >In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
> >> > > > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the 
> >> > > >> >universe 
> >> > > >> >all 
> >> > > >> >by 
> >> > > >> >it's
> >> > > >> >own self.
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Because it is here?
> >> > > 
> >> > > How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
> >> > 
> >> > Because it is not a void.
> >> 
> >> How is THAT evidence that it was created?
> >
> >Because it was not and then it is. That is generally refered to as a 
> >creation. 
> >Like when wind shear creates tornadoes.
> 
> Where is your evidence that it ever was not?

Cosmic background radiation? Sorry, but some sort of Big Bang is the current 
accepted theory in physics. I realize that some of you find science and physics 
frightful, but they really are remarkable tools for advancing technology.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#516389

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-24 05:08 -0400
Message-ID<9fnltad2dpu26tt5lno98eq1hu3nktngtc@4ax.com>
In reply to#516296
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:38:08 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
<charlie-gordon1492-207C1E.14380823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
wrote:

>In article <2mcktal5u3mvghc93m3uv259co6tha9fti@4ax.com>,
> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:31:55 -0700, je suis charly
>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <charlie-gordon1492-9B23D8.10315523082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <hlwdjsd2-2A7FE0.05432723082015@news.giganews.com>,
>> > Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article 
>> >> <charlie-gordon1492-790244.05135823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
>> >>  je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
>> >> >  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
>> >> > > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > >In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
>> >> > > > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> >What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the 
>> >> > > >> >universe 
>> >> > > >> >all 
>> >> > > >> >by 
>> >> > > >> >it's
>> >> > > >> >own self.
>> >> > > >> 
>> >> > > >> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >Because it is here?
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
>> >> > 
>> >> > Because it is not a void.
>> >> 
>> >> How is THAT evidence that it was created?
>> >
>> >Because it was not and then it is. That is generally refered to as a 
>> >creation. 
>> >Like when wind shear creates tornadoes.
>> 
>> Where is your evidence that it ever was not?
>
>Cosmic background radiation? Sorry, but some sort of Big Bang is the current 
>accepted theory in physics. I realize that some of you find science and physics 
>frightful, but they really are remarkable tools for advancing technology.

I do not reject scientific theory and have never indicated I do.  At
the same time I do not accept the existence of any creator nor do I
automatically accept the requirement that existence alone proves
something must have been created.  Existence only proves itself and
does nothing toward any origin either to prove one existed or what
that origin was.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#516398

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2015-08-24 03:22 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-FFE6AD.03221624082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#516389
In article <9fnltad2dpu26tt5lno98eq1hu3nktngtc@4ax.com>,
 Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

> I do not reject scientific theory and have never indicated I do.  At
> the same time I do not accept the existence of any creator nor do I
> automatically accept the requirement that existence alone proves
> something must have been created.  Existence only proves itself and
> does nothing toward any origin either to prove one existed or what
> that origin was.

What you are is so combative that you cannot even cope with the verb "create". 
You are terrified that if you accept the normal meaning and use of the word, it 
will obligate you agree to concepts not even under discussion.

Do you have a problem with ever verb that allows but does not require an agent? 
Do you have a similar freak-out at "the Earth's core is made of iron and nickel" 
because allowing that Earth's core is "made" of anything forces you to accept 
that there must be a "maker"? You are pathetic.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#516664

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-24 20:22 -0400
Message-ID<k2dntattgl6htl41hrokkutgie1a31302j@4ax.com>
In reply to#516398
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:22:16 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
<charlie-gordon1492-FFE6AD.03221624082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
wrote:

>In article <9fnltad2dpu26tt5lno98eq1hu3nktngtc@4ax.com>,
> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>> I do not reject scientific theory and have never indicated I do.  At
>> the same time I do not accept the existence of any creator nor do I
>> automatically accept the requirement that existence alone proves
>> something must have been created.  Existence only proves itself and
>> does nothing toward any origin either to prove one existed or what
>> that origin was.
>
>What you are is so combative that you cannot even cope with the verb "create". 

I can cope with it, and I understand a creation does not require any
intelligent involvement.  In the context used here however there is
almost some god lurking in the corner somewhere and that I will not
accept.

>You are terrified that if you accept the normal meaning and use of the word, it 
>will obligate you agree to concepts not even under discussion.

Not at all.

>
>Do you have a problem with ever verb that allows but does not require an agent? 

Nope, just as I explained above.

>Do you have a similar freak-out at "the Earth's core is made of iron and nickel" 

I have not kept up with the latest in that area so I cannot comment.

>because allowing that Earth's core is "made" of anything forces you to accept 
>that there must be a "maker"? You are pathetic.

You do love your nonsense don't you?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#516337

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-08-23 17:50 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-2F2C17.17505423082015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#516149
In article 
<charlie-gordon1492-9B23D8.10315523082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
 je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:

> In article <hlwdjsd2-2A7FE0.05432723082015@news.giganews.com>,
>  Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article 
> > <charlie-gordon1492-790244.05135823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> >  je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
> > >  Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
> > > > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
> > > > > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> >What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the universe 
> > > > >> >all 
> > > > >> >by 
> > > > >> >it's
> > > > >> >own self.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
> > > > >
> > > > >Because it is here?
> > > > 
> > > > How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
> > > 
> > > Because it is not a void.
> > 
> > How is THAT evidence that it was created?
> 
> Because it was not and then it is. That is generally refered to as a 
> creation. 


Where? And by whom?

-- 

JD

Išve officially given up trying to find the bottom 
of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom 
Rosario, Addicting Info

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#516340

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2015-08-23 18:09 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-BAE62C.18090723082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#516337
In article <hlwdjsd2-2F2C17.17505423082015@news.giganews.com>,
 Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> > Because it was not and then it is. That is generally refered to as a 
> > creation. 
> 
> 
> Where? And by whom?

Where? Everywhere.

By whom? That is your hypothesis. You tell me.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#516067

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-08-23 07:57 -0500
Message-ID<epfjta57ib6b0pc66pto7j2md0gub4lh20@4ax.com>
In reply to#516055
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 05:13:58 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:

>In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
> Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
>> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the universe all 
>> >> >by 
>> >> >it's
>> >> >own self.
>> >> 
>> >> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
>> >
>> >Because it is here?
>> 
>> How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
>
>Because it is not a void.

What has that got to do with it. imbecile?

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#516144

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2015-08-23 10:30 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-7B58D0.10301223082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#516067
In article <epfjta57ib6b0pc66pto7j2md0gub4lh20@4ax.com>,
 Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 05:13:58 -0700, je suis charly
> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> 
> >In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
> > Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
> >> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
> >> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the universe 
> >> >> >all 
> >> >> >by 
> >> >> >it's
> >> >> >own self.
> >> >> 
> >> >> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
> >> >
> >> >Because it is here?
> >> 
> >> How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
> >
> >Because it is not a void.
> 
> What has that got to do with it. imbecile?

Oh, my, is it the word "create" that has you in such a tizzy? This might come as 
a shock to you but words like "create" are often used without an implied agency. 
They are often used to simply refer nonexistence followed by existence. You are 
far too reactive; you act as if colloquial use of a word somehow obligates you 
accept all possible meanings.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#516190

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-08-23 13:38 -0500
Message-ID<ii4ktap58h2obv06bri84d3dgnf24khpnb@4ax.com>
In reply to#516144
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:30:12 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:

>In article <epfjta57ib6b0pc66pto7j2md0gub4lh20@4ax.com>,
> Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 05:13:58 -0700, je suis charly
>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
>> > Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
>> >> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
>> >> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the universe 
>> >> >> >all 
>> >> >> >by 
>> >> >> >it's
>> >> >> >own self.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
>> >> >
>> >> >Because it is here?
>> >> 
>> >> How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
>> >
>> >Because it is not a void.
>> 
>> What has that got to do with it. imbecile?
>
>Oh, my, is it the word "create" that has you in such a tizzy? 

As usual, a theist troll resorts to personal lies when people  have
been trying to communicate , and now he obfuscates as well.

>                                                                                                 This might come as 
>a shock to you but words like "create" are often used without an implied agency. 

This might come as a shock to you, but your intellectual betters try
to use exact meanings to avoid equivocation.

>They are often used to simply refer nonexistence followed by existence. 

People trying to communicate use better, less ambiguous words.

>                                                                                                                    You are 
>far too reactive; you act as if colloquial use of a word somehow obligates you 
>accept all possible meanings.

And you lie through your teeth.But then you're a theist troll who is
only here to annoy.

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#516269

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2015-08-23 13:52 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-DB4C0F.13522823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#516190
In article <ii4ktap58h2obv06bri84d3dgnf24khpnb@4ax.com>,
 Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:

> As usual, a theist troll resorts to personal lies when people  have
> been trying to communicate , and now he obfuscates as well.

You are no fun. You fell right over.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#516283

FromTom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net>
Date2015-08-23 16:06 -0500
Message-ID<mrdch0$qp0$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516269
On 8/23/2015 3:52 PM, je suis charly wrote:
> In article <ii4ktap58h2obv06bri84d3dgnf24khpnb@4ax.com>,
>   Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> As usual, a theist troll resorts to personal lies when people  have
>> been trying to communicate , and now he obfuscates as well.
>
> You are no fun. You fell right over.
>
Yeah, but you crushed that dwarf. Hand me the pliers, Christopher; I've 
fingernails to pull from laughing boy Chucky.

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#516284

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-08-23 16:06 -0500
Message-ID<7edktap6thr1braurd21vc1mqfsfui1q2h@4ax.com>
In reply to#516269
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:52:28 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:

>In article <ii4ktap58h2obv06bri84d3dgnf24khpnb@4ax.com>,
> Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> As usual, a theist troll resorts to personal lies when people  have
>> been trying to communicate , and now he obfuscates as well.
>
>You are no fun. You fell right over.

You're just a deliberately stupid jerk, so why whine when you get
treated as one?

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#516285

FromTom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net>
Date2015-08-23 16:09 -0500
Message-ID<mrdcnv$qp0$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516284
On 8/23/2015 4:06 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:52:28 -0700, je suis charly
> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>
>> In article <ii4ktap58h2obv06bri84d3dgnf24khpnb@4ax.com>,
>> Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As usual, a theist troll resorts to personal lies when people  have
>>> been trying to communicate , and now he obfuscates as well.
>>
>> You are no fun. You fell right over.
>
> You're just a deliberately stupid jerk, so why whine when you get
> treated as one?
>
I had observed that he was becoming dull and unamusing. He appears to be 
trying to suck up to me with attempts at humor, this time from Firesign 
Theater. He's not in my killfile yet. I'm going to see how much longer 
he'll dance for me.

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#516316

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2015-08-23 15:36 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-25CE7E.15363423082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#516285
In article <mrdcnv$qp0$3@dont-email.me>,
 Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> wrote:

> On 8/23/2015 4:06 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:52:28 -0700, je suis charly
> > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <ii4ktap58h2obv06bri84d3dgnf24khpnb@4ax.com>,
> >> Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> As usual, a theist troll resorts to personal lies when people  have
> >>> been trying to communicate , and now he obfuscates as well.
> >>
> >> You are no fun. You fell right over.
> >
> > You're just a deliberately stupid jerk, so why whine when you get
> > treated as one?
> >
> I had observed that he was becoming dull and unamusing. He appears to be 
> trying to suck up to me with attempts at humor, this time from Firesign 
> Theater. He's not in my killfile yet. I'm going to see how much longer 
> he'll dance for me.

Oh, dear. If you are not going to amuse me any longer, I guess it is back to 
work.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#516106

FromTom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net>
Date2015-08-23 11:07 -0500
Message-ID<mrcr15$fcl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516055
On 8/23/2015 7:13 AM, je suis charly wrote:
> In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
>   Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
>>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the universe all
>>>>> by
>>>>> it's
>>>>> own self.
>>>>
>>>> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
>>>
>>> Because it is here?
>>
>> How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
>
> Because it is not a void.
>
The multiverse is eternal. Our little part of it originated; that is no 
evidence that it was created.

BTW, let's say the universe was created. How does that get you to 
anything other than a natural event?

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#516109

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-08-23 11:36 -0500
Message-ID<dbsjtatdsdp2g7homas6r0qoi67csf69qa@4ax.com>
In reply to#516106
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:07:39 -0500, Tom McDonald
<tmcdonald2672@charter.net> wrote:

>On 8/23/2015 7:13 AM, je suis charly wrote:
>> In article <vddjtad74h5h28oemmj9d8ce6bkp127s8c@4ax.com>,
>>   Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:34:05 -0700, je suis charly
>>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <njuita9f87497pbi4rikth6vi7au7o1dga@4ax.com>,
>>>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> What's equally difficult is to imagine the creation of the universe all
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> own self.
>>>>>
>>>>> What evidence do you have that the universe was ever created?
>>>>
>>>> Because it is here?
>>>
>>> How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
>>
>> Because it is not a void.
>>
>The multiverse is eternal. Our little part of it originated; that is no 
>evidence that it was created.
>
>BTW, let's say the universe was created. How does that get you to 
>anything other than a natural event?

It's deceit by sleight of language.

Calling everything "creation" is very old - but the stupids imagine
this means there actually was a creator.

But science has various scenarios, all based on existing knowledge not
mere belief and, unlike religion, nobody insists that it was any of
these.

It's a lesson I learned from a kid's astronomy book sixty years ago,
which described two different theories for planetary formation and
said that both fitted the then available evidence but there was no
reason to choose one over the other - that would have to wait for
further observations, it could be either or even neither depending on
what hadn't yet been discovered. In the event, planets were formed
from the accretion disk and the other theory fell by the wayside.

And because the universe is considered to have a zero sum over its
life, there are no mass/energy conservation problems.

This has been explained over and over again to the trolls, but they
take no notice and never address any of it.

All the theist trolls do is repeat the same old nonsense as if we had
never addressed it every time - about something that is nothing to do
with atheism in the first place.

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#516143

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2015-08-23 10:23 -0700
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-107946.10235623082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#516106
In article <mrcr15$fcl$1@dont-email.me>,
 Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> wrote:

> >> How is that "evidence" that it was created, imbecile?
> >
> > Because it is not a void.
> >
> The multiverse is eternal. Our little part of it originated; that is no 
> evidence that it was created.

What is your objective evidence that anything outside this universe exists?

> BTW, let's say the universe was created. How does that get you to 
> anything other than a natural event?

Why do you assume I want to get anything more?

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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