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What is an Atheist?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-07-11 12:10 -0700
Last post2015-07-14 19:40 +0000
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  What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-11 12:10 -0700
    Re: What is an Atheist? The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> - 2015-07-11 15:23 -0400
      Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-11 14:49 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 17:13 -0400
      Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-11 16:50 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 05:49 -0700
        Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 10:38 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 13:03 -0400
            Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 12:51 -0500
              Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-12 16:57 -0500
              Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 19:29 -0700
                Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:11 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-12 21:38 +0000
          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-12 16:55 -0500
            Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 19:28 -0700
              Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 21:55 -0700
                Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-13 21:07 +0000
                  Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-13 18:53 -0700
                    Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:32 -0700
                      Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 09:09 -0500
                        Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-14 11:30 -0500
                          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 12:25 -0500
                        Re: What is an Atheist? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 10:39 -0700
                        Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-14 10:56 -0700
                          Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 19:29 +0000
                            Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 19:49 -0500
                              Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-15 09:56 -0500
                          Re: What is an Atheist? Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-07-14 18:20 -0400
                            Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-15 10:11 +0100
                          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 19:48 -0500
                            Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-14 18:54 -0700
                        Re: What is an Atheist? Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 08:51 +0000
                          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-15 10:00 -0500
              Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:10 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 15:42 -0700
          Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 19:25 -0700
            Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:09 -0500
    Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-11 14:46 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-11 16:10 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 10:39 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-12 16:58 -0500
    Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-11 21:16 +0000
      Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-11 16:58 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-11 16:49 -0700
        Re: What is an Atheist? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-12 01:11 +0000
          Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-11 20:43 -0500
            Re: What is an Atheist? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-12 02:21 +0000
              Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 10:00 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-12 11:23 +0100
          Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-12 07:50 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? Rockinghorse Winner <rhorse@sonic.net> - 2015-07-12 18:40 -0700
            Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:09 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-12 21:41 +0000
          Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 16:12 -0700
            Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-13 21:11 +0000
              Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:16 -0700
                Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 19:31 +0000
      Re: What is an Atheist? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-12 11:16 -0500
    Re: What is an Atheist? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-13 18:55 +1000
      Re: What is an Atheist? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2015-07-13 04:18 -0700
        Re: What is an Atheist? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-14 16:10 +1000
          Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-14 01:37 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-14 01:22 -0700
          Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-14 11:23 +0100
            Re: What is an Atheist? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-14 23:09 +1000
              Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-14 08:13 -0500
              Re: What is an Atheist? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-14 17:56 +0200
      Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 08:01 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 22:04 -0700
          Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-14 11:20 +0100
      Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-13 10:14 -0500
        Re: What is an Atheist? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2015-07-13 13:33 -0700
          Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-13 16:02 -0500
      Re: What is an Atheist? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:18 -0400
        Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-13 16:03 -0500
          Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-13 18:54 -0700
      Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 12:05 -0700
        Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-13 20:50 +0100
        Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-13 21:16 +0000
          Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-13 17:23 -0700
            Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:19 -0700
              Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 19:40 +0000

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#506371 — What is an Atheist?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-07-11 12:10 -0700
SubjectWhat is an Atheist?
Message-ID<55A16A42.6D0B@ix.netcom.com>
I don't mean
what is the definition
of atheism...
but what exactly is
an Atheist person?

From observation..
it's a person
obbsessed with...God.

Fact is,
Atheist think more
about God than
religious people do.

Most religious people
don't think about God
because they are already
at peace with their God.

Atheist spend most
of their life at
war with their God..
they are simply people
who are not at
peace with the God
inside them.

It's a constant war.

Will they ever find peace?

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#506372

FromThe Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net>
Date2015-07-11 15:23 -0400
Message-ID<mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#506371
The Starmaker said :
> I don't mean
> what is the definition
> of atheism...
> but what exactly is
> an Atheist person?
>
An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as 
their Savior.   And the Pagans are everybody else who refuses to accept 
Jesus Christ of Israel as their Savior.

That's why Evangelicals are superior to every one.  Including that 
Paptist Pope.

The one who believes in socialism and global warming, not the other one 
who is in a converted Nunnery and used to raise his right hand and say 
"Heil Hilter".

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#506378

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-11 14:49 -0500
Message-ID<0ls2qat9vm1futrtuhqvlitn7da91n9a6m@4ax.com>
In reply to#506372
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 15:23:43 -0400, The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or
die@yahoo.net> wrote:

>The Starmaker said :
>> I don't mean
>> what is the definition
>> of atheism...
>> but what exactly is
>> an Atheist person?
>>
>An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as 
>their Savior.   And the Pagans are everybody else who refuses to accept 
>Jesus Christ of Israel as their Savior.

well I see that you and harry potter get along well together, but tell
me how is tinkerbell doing these days?

>
>That's why Evangelicals are superior to every one.  Including that 
>Paptist Pope.

Evangelicals  are idiots becaue they believe harry potter is real oh
and tinkerbell

>
>The one who believes in socialism and global warming, not the other one 
>who is in a converted Nunnery and used to raise his right hand and say 
>"Heil Hilter".
>

you are christian, you fully support hitler, pedophilia, rape,
torture, murder

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#506397

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-11 17:13 -0400
Message-ID<mns0rf$ik2$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#506378
On 7/11/2015 3:49 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>
> well I see that you and harry potter get along well together, but tell
> me how is tinkerbell doing these days?
>
>>
>> That's why Evangelicals are superior to every one.  Including that
>> Paptist Pope.
>
> Evangelicals  are idiots becaue they believe harry potter is real oh
> and tinkerbell


Please...Leave poor Tinkerbell out of this


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#506403

FromSimoen <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-07-11 16:50 -0500
Message-ID<mns34q$s2v$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#506372
On 7/11/2015 2:23 PM, The Love of Christ wrote:
> The Starmaker said :
>> I don't mean
>> what is the definition
>> of atheism...
>> but what exactly is
>> an Atheist person?
>>
> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
> their Savior.   And the Pagans are everybody else who refuses to accept
> Jesus Christ of Israel as their Savior.

Jesus Christ never lived in Israel.

<snip rest of flawed scribblings>

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#506507

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 05:49 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-858736.05495012072015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#506372
In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:

> The Starmaker said :
> > I don't mean
> > what is the definition
> > of atheism...
> > but what exactly is
> > an Atheist person?
> >
> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as 
> their Savior.   


Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever 
existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#506551

FromSimoen <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-07-12 10:38 -0500
Message-ID<mnu1l5$hsj$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#506507
On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>
>> The Starmaker said :
>>> I don't mean
>>> what is the definition
>>> of atheism...
>>> but what exactly is
>>> an Atheist person?
>>>
>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>> their Savior.
>
>
> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>

can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever 
existed ?

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#506571

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 13:03 -0400
Message-ID<mnu6ip$v6e$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#506551
On 7/12/2015 11:38 AM, Simoen wrote:
>
>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>>> their Savior.
>>
>>
>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
>> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>>
>
> can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> existed ?


Why? Is he your savior?


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#506579

FromSimoen <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-07-12 12:51 -0500
Message-ID<mnu9eg$3tq$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#506571
On 7/12/2015 12:03 PM, HVAC wrote:
> On 7/12/2015 11:38 AM, Simoen wrote:
>>
>>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>>>> their Savior.
>>>
>>>
>>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
>>> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>>>
>>
>> can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
>> existed ?
>
>
> Why? Is he your savior?
>
>

she cannot show any "proof or evidence" that anyone in her family ever 
existed just a few generations back.

So her argument of not being able to provide evidence as a proof of 
non-existance of something is totally phoney.






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#506634

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-12 16:57 -0500
Message-ID<mjo5qa58vhblub3d3l5qkfnegakecgqnh9@4ax.com>
In reply to#506579
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:51:13 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 7/12/2015 12:03 PM, HVAC wrote:
>> On 7/12/2015 11:38 AM, Simoen wrote:
>>>
>>>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>>>>> their Savior.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
>>>> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>>>>
>>>
>>> can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
>>> existed ?
>>
>>
>> Why? Is he your savior?
>>
>>
>
>she cannot show any "proof or evidence" that anyone in her family ever 
>existed just a few generations back.
>
>So her argument of not being able to provide evidence as a proof of 
>non-existance of something is totally phoney.


also without her great anything then possibly hundreds to thousands of
hhumans would not have ever been on this earth....

can you say the same about your jesus fellow?

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#506649

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 19:29 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-3498D8.19294812072015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#506579
In article <mnu9eg$3tq$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 7/12/2015 12:03 PM, HVAC wrote:
> > On 7/12/2015 11:38 AM, Simoen wrote:
> >>
> >>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
> >>>> their Savior.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
> >>> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
> >>>
> >>
> >> can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> >> existed ?
> >
> >
> > Why? Is he your savior?
> >
> >
> 
> she cannot show any "proof or evidence" that anyone in her family ever 
> existed just a few generations back.

MY existence is irrefutable evidence that my ancestors existed.


> So her argument of not being able to provide evidence as a proof of 
> non-existance of something is totally phoney.

Are you truly this stupid? If not, why are you pretending to be?

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#506684

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-07-13 02:11 -0500
Message-ID<04p6qa9e1i3d4f132jt3q978ftavgbcfcg@4ax.com>
In reply to#506649
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 19:29:48 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>In article <mnu9eg$3tq$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/12/2015 12:03 PM, HVAC wrote:
>> > On 7/12/2015 11:38 AM, Simoen wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>> >>>> their Savior.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
>> >>> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
>> >> existed ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Why? Is he your savior?
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> she cannot show any "proof or evidence" that anyone in her family ever 
>> existed just a few generations back.
>
>MY existence is irrefutable evidence that my ancestors existed.
>
>
>> So her argument of not being able to provide evidence as a proof of 
>> non-existance of something is totally phoney.
>
>Are you truly this stupid? If not, why are you pretending to be?

It's a Christian wiping his unsolicited nonsense in our faces. 'Nuff
said.

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#506630

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-12 21:38 +0000
Message-ID<mnumpf$1jr$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#506551
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen wrote:

> On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker said :
>>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>>>>
>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>>> their Savior.
>>
>>
>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
>> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>>
>>
> can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> existed ?

Which of her 16 great great great grandfathers are you talking about?
If he didn't exist, how is she here? Her existence is evidence of his 
existence. Unless her great great great grandmother was raped by a 
supposed god, like the supposed Mary supposedly was.

Damn, you *are* stupid.

BTW, I've evidence for my great great great _great_ grandfather.
I even know which town he lived in and the name of his wife, my great 
great great _great_ grandmother.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#506633

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-12 16:55 -0500
Message-ID<8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>
In reply to#506551
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker said :
>>>> I don't mean
>>>> what is the definition
>>>> of atheism...
>>>> but what exactly is
>>>> an Atheist person?
>>>>
>>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
>>> their Savior.
>>
>>
>> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
>> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
>>
>
>can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever 
>existed ?


actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?

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#506648

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 19:28 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-32AD97.19282412072015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#506633
In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu 
wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Starmaker said :
> >>>> I don't mean
> >>>> what is the definition
> >>>> of atheism...
> >>>> but what exactly is
> >>>> an Atheist person?
> >>>>
> >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
> >>> their Savior.
> >>
> >>
> >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
> >> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
> >>
> >
> >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever 
> >existed ?
> 
> 
> actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?

Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather 
was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be 
here.

It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my 
question.

So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as 
Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt 
will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#506673

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-07-12 21:55 -0700
Message-ID<55A344B9.328F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#506648
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> 
> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> The Starmaker said :
> > >>>> I don't mean
> > >>>> what is the definition
> > >>>> of atheism...
> > >>>> but what exactly is
> > >>>> an Atheist person?
> > >>>>
> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of Israel as
> > >>> their Savior.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person ever
> > >> existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their savior?
> > >>
> > >
> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> > >existed ?
> >
> >
> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
> 
> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
> here.
> 
> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
> question.
> 
> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
> 

You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus Christ existed? Sure the evidence exist
that he existed...

but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.

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#506854

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-13 21:07 +0000
Message-ID<mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#506673
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> 
>> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> The Starmaker said :
>> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
>> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
>> > >>
>> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
>> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
>> > >> savior?
>> > >>
>> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
>> > >existed ?
>> >
>> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
>> 
>> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
>> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
>> here.
>> 
>> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
>> question.
>> 
>> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
>> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
>> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
>> 
> You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
> Christ existed? Sure the evidence exist that he existed...

What evidence would that be?
Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
 
> but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.

And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#506905

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 18:53 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-1F8F7D.18532913072015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#506854
In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> 
wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> 
> >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
> >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
> >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
> >> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
> >> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
> >> > >> savior?
> >> > >>
> >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> >> > >existed ?
> >> >
> >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
> >> 
> >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
> >> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
> >> here.
> >> 
> >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
> >> question.
> >> 
> >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
> >> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
> >> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
> >> 
> > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
> > Christ existed?

What evidence?


> >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...

What evidence?

I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the evidence 
you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew about 
the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).



> What evidence would that be?
> Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>  
> > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
> 
> And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.


Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course, it 
NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#506951

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-07-13 23:32 -0700
Message-ID<55A4ACEE.351F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#506905
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> 
> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >>
> > >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
> > >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
> > >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
> > >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
> > >> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
> > >> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
> > >> > >> savior?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
> > >> > >existed ?
> > >> >
> > >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
> > >>
> > >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
> > >> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
> > >> here.
> > >>
> > >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
> > >> question.
> > >>
> > >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
> > >> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
> > >> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
> > >>
> > > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
> > > Christ existed?
> 
> What evidence?
> 
> > >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
> 
> What evidence?
> 
> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the evidence
> you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew about
> the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).
> 
> > What evidence would that be?
> > Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
> >
> > > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
> >
> > And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.
> 
> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course, it
> NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
> 



Are you insane?? Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
overwhelming!!

Don't tell me they crusified the wrong guy??


What do you think BC abd AD stand for in the calendar? 


You have different people writing about the same guy....it walks like a
duck, talk likes a duck, it's a duck!


Where do you buy your medical marywanna???? Colorado???

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#506988

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-14 09:09 -0500
Message-ID<3h5aqaljdc6uoc6g6ahnnmgo733tucduia@4ax.com>
In reply to#506951
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:32:14 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> 
>> In article <mo19am$h6m$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:55:21 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >
>> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> In article <8ho5qa9inkskoaqr9lrqd01sldh091f0ke@4ax.com>, bilgat@m.nu
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:38:14 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >On 7/12/2015 7:49 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> > >> > >> In article <mnrqhk$9be$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> > >> > >>   The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> wrote:
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>> The Starmaker said :
>> > >> > >>>> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism...
>> > >> > >>>> but what exactly is an Atheist person?
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>> An Atheist is a Devil who refuses to accept Jesus Christ of
>> > >> > >>> Israel as their Savior.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Since nobody has ever provided any evidence that any such person
>> > >> > >> ever existed, why on earth would anybody accept him as their
>> > >> > >> savior?
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >can you provide any evidence you great great great grandfather ever
>> > >> > >existed ?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > actually it is rather easy.... have you ever heard of ancestory.com?
>> > >>
>> > >> Not necessary, except to find out whether the triple-great grandfather
>> > >> was the one I thought it was. Obviously, one exists or I wouldn't be
>> > >> here.
>> > >>
>> > >> It was a stupid and transparent deflection to avoid answering my
>> > >> question.
>> > >>
>> > >> So, back to you, Simoen, Where's your evidence that any such person as
>> > >> Jesus ever existed? Try to answer this time. Another deflection attempt
>> > >> will be taken as a confession that you have no such evidence.
>> > >>
>> > > You mean to tell me you don't believe that evidence exist that Jesus
>> > > Christ existed?
>> 
>> What evidence?
>> 
>> > >  Sure the evidence exist that he existed...
>> 
>> What evidence?
>> 
>> I asked you what evidence you have. Why didn't you present the evidence
>> you claim to have instead of asking a silly question (if I knew about
>> the existence of any such evidence I wouldn't have to ask you).
>> 
>> > What evidence would that be?
>> > Whenever it's asked for it disappears in a puff of 'holy' smoke.
>> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
>> >
>> > > but that doesn't mean the stories about him are all true.
>> >
>> > And that doesn't mean that _any_ of the stories about him are true.
>> 
>> Exactly. There's zero evidence outside the bible (which, of course, it
>> NOT evidence) that any such person ever existed.
>> 
>
>
>
>Are you insane?? Of course Jesus Christ existed! The evidence is
>overwhelming!!

Present it.

>
>Don't tell me they crusified the wrong guy??

They crucified many many wrong people, but your "jesus christ" was
never put on a cross mainly because it is hard to nail the hands and
feet of a story on a cross

>
>
>What do you think BC abd AD stand for in the calendar? 

ad and bc mean no0thing as far as christ, not any more. Your jesus
feller was supossed to be hace been strung up on 0 bc but it was much
closer to 6 bc. so you see the idiots that wrote the stories could not
even get that crap right
>
>
>You have different people writing about the same guy....it walks like a
>duck, talk likes a duck, it's a duck!

if it types like an idiot and looks like an idiot then starmakes must
be an idiot

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