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  Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-21 13:11 -0700
    Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-05 19:01 -0700
      Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-07 20:22 -0700
        Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-08 14:26 -0700
        Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-09 10:52 -0700
          Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-10 22:41 -0500
        Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:10 -0700
          Re: Near True benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 03:00 -0400
            Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-14 11:34 -0500
    Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-08 00:21 -0500
    Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-10 19:41 -0700
      Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-10 19:43 -0700
        Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 21:45 -0700
          Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 12:11 -0700
          Re: Near True moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-13 20:00 +0000
            Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 15:53 -0700
              Re: Near True moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-14 02:51 +0000
                Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 22:48 -0700
                  Re: Near True moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-14 15:28 +0000
                  Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-14 10:47 -0500
                    Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-14 10:34 -0700
                    Re: Near True HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 07:14 -0400
              Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 13:55 -0700
                Re: Near True pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2015-07-26 17:20 -0700
                  Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-26 20:52 -0700
    Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-10 22:37 -0500

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#507025

Simoen wrote:
> 
> On 7/14/2015 12:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> How NASA uses the term:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> >>
> >>> Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
> >>
> >>> A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that
> >>> differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >>
> >> That's all you need to know.
> >>
> >> Think of an old-time color photograph negative.  That's a false color
> >> image, but one from which a true color image can be recreated.
> >> A black-and-white photograph is also false color.
> >>
> >> Sometimes false color is the only way to do it.  Like a photo in the
> >> infrared or ultraviolet.  You *must* use false color for that, what would
> >> a true-color infrared photograph look like?
> >>
> >> IR and UV can show details not visible in visible light.  Ever see a photo
> >> of flowers in the ultraviolet, the way a bee would see it?  Can't do it
> >> without false color.  I have a false color aerial photograph of where I
> >> live from 20 years ago.  It's in infrared and visible light.  Infrared is
> >> shown as red.  Healthy vegetation (farm fields, golf courses etc.) show up
> >> as bright red as healthy vegetation reflects IR very well.  Not so healthy
> >> vegetation as dull red or pinkish.  It shows the health in much more
> >> detail than just looking at it, as both look green.
> >>
> >>> I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect,
> >>> not according with truth or fact.'
> >>
> >> How can it be meant to deceive if they explicitly say it's false color?
> >> Esp. when they explicitly give color mapping, like my USGS false color
> >> photograph?  It says that infrared appears as red, red as green and green
> >> as blue, as well as giving the actual wavelengths.
> >
> > I think you got lost somewhere...
> >
> > The Subject heading of this threads reads? "Near True".
> >
> > then I posted NASA article:
> >
> > NASA publishes 1st 'near-true color' images of Pluto
> > http://rt.com/usa/268678-nasa-first-pluto-images/
> >
> >
> > They didn't write false colors...
> 
> if they are not TRUE COLORS, they are FALSE COLORS.  Simple.
> 
> >
> > somebody came into my thread and added "false colors" which was never mentioned in the news...
> 
> "near-true" is "not true", which means it is "false".
> 
> and "someone" had to correct your faulty thinking,
> which may be "near-true", but "not true", so "faulty thinking" it is.
> 
> >
> >
> > "false colors" was not mentioned in the news...
> >
> >
> > What was mentioned was 'near-true color' and simulated true-colour ....but no mentioned of the words "false colors".
> >
> >
> > Tell your News Science People that I said to put in the Headline  "false colors", instead of
> > 'near-true color' and "simulated true-colour", okay?
> 
> absolutly, I will get right on it, but they will ask, How False?
> then what?
> 
> >
> >
> > Because everybody knows what "false" means.
> 
> false is near-true.
> 
> >
> >
> > So the average person can say..."Oh, it's fuckin fake color photos!"
> >
> 
> the color on your computer screen is false too.


it's near true.

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#507424

On 7/14/2015 11:47 AM, Simoen wrote:
>
>> Because everybody knows what "false" means.
>
> false is near-true.
>
>>
>>
>> So the average person can say..."Oh, it's fuckin fake color photos!"
>>
>
> the color on your computer screen is false too.


Personally, I like the false color images better. Raw astronomy images 
are for the most part, boring.


-- 
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#509233

pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a different dictionary?
> > >
> > > How NASA uses the term:
> > >
> > > http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> > >
> > > Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> >
> >
> > Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
> >
> > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> >
> >
> > Now, can you translate that into...English? Or do i have to translate it for you?
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> >
> > dif搭er
> > 'dif?r/
> > verb
> > verb: differ; 3rd person present: differs; past tense: differed; past participle: differed; gerund or present participle: differing
> >
> >     be unlike or dissimilar.
> >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> >     synonyms: contrast with, be different from, be dissimilar to, be unlike, vary from, diverge from, deviate from, conflict with, run counter to, be incompatible with, be at odds with, go against, contradict
> >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> >     antonyms: resemble
> >         disagree.
> >         "he differed from his contemporaries in ethical matters"
> >         synonyms:     disagree, conflict, be at variance, be at odds, be in dispute, not see eye to eye
> >         "the two sides differed over this issue"
> >         antonyms:     agree
> >
> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> >
> >
> >
> > In other words...False_color
> >
> > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >
> > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'disagree' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >
> > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'conflict' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect, not according with truth or fact.'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >
> >
> > it's truly false...
> 
> Of course people who aren't imbeciles know that the purpose of false color images isn't deception.  Even a 5-year-old knows that "false" doesn't always mean "deceptive".



https://www.google.com/#q=define+false


appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to
deceive.

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#509759

On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > 
> > On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have a different dictionary?
> > > >
> > > > How NASA uses the term:
> > > >
> > > > http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> > > >
> > > > Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> > >
> > >
> > > Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
> > >
> > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> > >
> > >
> > > Now, can you translate that into...English? Or do i have to translate it for you?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> > >
> > > dif搭er
> > > 'dif?r/
> > > verb
> > > verb: differ; 3rd person present: differs; past tense: differed; past participle: differed; gerund or present participle: differing
> > >
> > >     be unlike or dissimilar.
> > >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> > >     synonyms: contrast with, be different from, be dissimilar to, be unlike, vary from, diverge from, deviate from, conflict with, run counter to, be incompatible with, be at odds with, go against, contradict
> > >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> > >     antonyms: resemble
> > >         disagree.
> > >         "he differed from his contemporaries in ethical matters"
> > >         synonyms:     disagree, conflict, be at variance, be at odds, be in dispute, not see eye to eye
> > >         "the two sides differed over this issue"
> > >         antonyms:     agree
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In other words...False_color
> > >
> > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > >
> > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'disagree' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > >
> > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'conflict' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect, not according with truth or fact.'
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > >
> > >
> > > it's truly false...
> > 
> > Of course people who aren't imbeciles know that the purpose of false color images isn't deception.  Even a 5-year-old knows that "false" doesn't always mean "deceptive".
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.google.com/#q=define+false
> 
> 
> appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to
> deceive.

Again you prove that you are so stupid that you can't even use a dictionary properly.
Like many other words, "false" has several meanings.  You pick one of them and insist that it must apply to all circumstances.  You are an idiot.

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#509785

pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have a different dictionary?
> > > > >
> > > > > How NASA uses the term:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
> > > >
> > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now, can you translate that into...English? Or do i have to translate it for you?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> > > >
> > > > dif搭er
> > > > 'dif?r/
> > > > verb
> > > > verb: differ; 3rd person present: differs; past tense: differed; past participle: differed; gerund or present participle: differing
> > > >
> > > >     be unlike or dissimilar.
> > > >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> > > >     synonyms: contrast with, be different from, be dissimilar to, be unlike, vary from, diverge from, deviate from, conflict with, run counter to, be incompatible with, be at odds with, go against, contradict
> > > >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> > > >     antonyms: resemble
> > > >         disagree.
> > > >         "he differed from his contemporaries in ethical matters"
> > > >         synonyms:     disagree, conflict, be at variance, be at odds, be in dispute, not see eye to eye
> > > >         "the two sides differed over this issue"
> > > >         antonyms:     agree
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In other words...False_color
> > > >
> > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > >
> > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'disagree' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > >
> > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'conflict' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect, not according with truth or fact.'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > it's truly false...
> > >
> > > Of course people who aren't imbeciles know that the purpose of false color images isn't deception.  Even a 5-year-old knows that "false" doesn't always mean "deceptive".
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+false
> >
> >
> > appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to
> > deceive.
> 
> Again you prove that you are so stupid that you can't even use a dictionary properly.
> Like many other words, "false" has several meanings.  You pick one of them and insist that it must apply to all circumstances.  You are an idiot.



No, I didn't pick or cheery pick a meaning to fit my bias, I picked the meaning that NASA meant to do, ...to deliberately deceive.


deliberately
deceive

period.

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#506239

On 6/21/2015 3:11 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> What does "Near True" mean?
>

follow the logic;

Near True => There True

Near True => Not There True

Near True => There False

Near True => Their False

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