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  California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 08:46 -0500
    Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 10:04 -0500
      Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-15 10:20 -0500
        Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report Michael Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2015-09-19 05:04 -0700
          Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 14:07 -0400
      Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 19:12 -0400
        Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-16 00:08 +0000
      Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report xxein1@att.net - 2015-09-19 13:41 -0700
    Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-15 17:50 +0000
    Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-19 15:52 -0700
      Re: California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report xxein1@att.net - 2015-09-19 16:47 -0700

#521263 — California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report

California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-governor-schools-gop-presidential-candidate-on-climate-change/

> Dear Dr. Carson,
>
> I hope you've enjoyed your visit to the Golden State. It's come to my
> attention that while you were here you said the following regarding
> climate science:
>
> "I know there are a lot of people who say 'overwhelming science,' but
> then when you ask them to show the overwhelming evidence, they never
> show it…There is no overwhelming science that the things that are
> going on are man-caused and not naturally caused. Gimmie a break."
>
> Please find enclosed a flash drive with the complete United Nations
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) "Synthesis Report,"
> the concluding installment of the Fifth Assessment Report, published
> earlier this year. This report assessed over 30,000 scientific papers
> and was written by more than 800 scientists, representing 80
> countries around the world, who definitively concluded that: "…human
> influence on the climate system is clear and growing, with impacts
> observed across all continents and oceans."
>
> This is just one of the thousands of reports authored by the world's
> top scientists on the subject, including a study published just last
> month by Columbia University, University of Idaho and NASA Goddard
> Institute for Space Studies scientists that found climate change has
> intensified California's drought. These aren't just words. The
> consequences are real.
>
> Please use your considerable intelligence to review this material.
> Climate change is much bigger than partisan politics.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jerry Brown


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#521281

On 9/15/15 8:46 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change
> report
>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-governor-schools-gop-presidential-candidate-on-climate-change/
>>
>
>> Dear Dr. Carson,
>>
>> I hope you've enjoyed your visit to the Golden State. It's come to my
>> attention that while you were here you said the following regarding
>> climate science:
>>
>> "I know there are a lot of people who say 'overwhelming science,' but
>> then when you ask them to show the overwhelming evidence, they never
>> show it…There is no overwhelming science that the things that are
>> going on are man-caused and not naturally caused. Gimmie a break."
>>
>> Please find enclosed a flash drive with the complete United Nations
>> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) "Synthesis Report,"
>> the concluding installment of the Fifth Assessment Report, published
>> earlier this year. This report assessed over 30,000 scientific papers
>> and was written by more than 800 scientists, representing 80
>> countries around the world, who definitively concluded that: "…human
>> influence on the climate system is clear and growing, with impacts
>> observed across all continents and oceans."
>>
>> This is just one of the thousands of reports authored by the world's
>> top scientists on the subject, including a study published just last
>> month by Columbia University, University of Idaho and NASA Goddard
>> Institute for Space Studies scientists that found climate change has
>> intensified California's drought. These aren't just words. The
>> consequences are real.
>>
>> Please use your considerable intelligence to review this material.
>> Climate change is much bigger than partisan politics.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jerry Brown
>
>




Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Reports
   http://www.ipcc.ch

   The IPCC is a scientific body under the auspices of the United
   Nations (UN). It reviews and assesses the most recent
   scientific, technical and socio-economic information produced
   worldwide relevant to the understanding of climate change. It
   does not conduct any research nor does it monitor climate
   related data or parameters.

Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis
   http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/

Climate Change 2014: Impacts, Adaptation, and Vulnerability
   http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg2/

Climate Change 2014: Mitigation of Climate Change
   http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg3/

Climate Change 2014: Synthesis Report
   http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/syr/




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#521284

>>> Jerry Brown

Jerry Brown is a 77 year old leftist nutcase, let California dry out,
and get taxed to death.


>
>
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Reports
> http://www.ipcc.ch
>

The report is by  Rajendra K. Pachauri, head of IPCC, a railway
engineer, He resigned from IPCC following allegations of sexual abuse of
a junior colleague at his New Delhi based organization. In July 2015, he
was also dismissed as the Director General of TERI (The Energy and
Resources Institute) the New Delhi head-quartered environmental think
tank that he had led for over three decades.

Business Standard also reviewed letters written by senior lawyer Vrinda 
Grover to the Delhi Police commissioner, pointing out that two former 
employees of Teri, too, wanted to give written complaints of sexual 
harassment against Pachauri but the police had for months not recorded 
their statements. She noted that she had repeatedly requested the Delhi 
Police over months to record their statements in confidentiality but the 
police had not acted upon the pleas of the two complainants. The letters 
date to March and April of this year.

This governing council’s statement is partly incorrect. The court order, 
which was secured by Pachauri ex-parte, says the complainant’s lawyers 
“took me (the judge) through the inquiry report of Internal Complaints 
Committee and has pointed out that principles of natural justice have 
not been followed at all by the said committee contrary to rules”. The 
court issued notices to the responding parties to reply and decided, “In 
the meantime, operation of the report of the Internal Complaints 
Committee shall remain stayed.” The court did not decide on the merits 
of the committee report and Pachauri’s contentions against it. It only 
stayed action on the report till further decisions were taken. The next 
hearing for the case is in September.

The committee had held Pachauri guilty of sexual misconduct and abuse of 
his position as director-general and recommended action against him. But 
Pachauri had contended, besides other things, that the complaint against 
him might be backed by “climate sceptics” (those who do not believe in 
human-induced climate change).

The committee members, comprising two Teri officials and an outside 
expert, had also reportedly noted they were subject to “hostile 
environment” while conducting the probe, with pressure and intimidation 
from some Teri employees, which included late-night visits to the home 
of the panel members. The panel also detailed out specifically and 
elaborately how principles of natural justice were followed during the 
course of the probe despite the pressures.

Sources at Teri said the organisation did not have any service rules 
under which disciplinary actions could be taken against Pachauri or 
other employees in such cases. The sexual harassment law permits a 
series of actions to be taken by Teri’s governing council in such cases 
where service rules do not exist.

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#521985

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 11:20:27 AM UTC-4, gilber34 wrote:

...
> 
> The report is by  Rajendra K. Pachauri

Wrong. He was the chairman of the IPCC, not the report author (s).

>, head of IPCC, a railway engineer

Wrong again. He has a masters in Industrial Engineering from NC State. A curriculum you probably would not survive.


From wikipedia (for the lazy, incompetent, and illiterate):

"In March 2010, the IPCC received approximately 3,000 author nominations from experts around the world. At the bureau session held in Geneva, 19-20 May 2010, the three working groups presented their selected authors and review editors for the AR5. Each of the selected scientists, specialists and experts was nominated in accordance with IPCC procedures, by respective national IPCC focal-points, by approved observer organizations, or by the bureau. The IPCC received 50% more nominations of experts to participate in AR5 than it did for AR4. A total of 559 authors and review editors had been selected for AR4 from 2,000 proposed nominees. On 23 June 2010 the IPCC announced the release of the final list of selected coordinating lead authors, comprising 831 experts who were drawn from fields including meteorology, physics, oceanography, statistics, engineering, ecology, social sciences and economics. In comparison to the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4), participation from developing countries was increased, reflecting the on-going efforts to improve regional coverage in the AR5. About 30% of authors came from developing countries or economies in transition. More than 60% of the experts chosen were new to the IPCC process, bringing fresh knowledge and perspectives."

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#522054

On 09/19/2015 08:04 AM, Michael Strickland wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 11:20:27 AM UTC-4, gilber34 wrote:
>
> ...
>>
>> The report is by  Rajendra K. Pachauri
>
> Wrong. He was the chairman of the IPCC, not the report author (s).
>
>> , head of IPCC, a railway engineer
>
> Wrong again. He has a masters in Industrial Engineering from NC State. A curriculum you probably would not survive.

Yeah, the next time I want to learn the climate "consensus" I'm going to 
ask an Industrial Engineer to be sure the opinion is valid.

Especially telling is the fact that the actual report is not what is 
always quoted but rather the summary for politicians which contains 
considerable deviation and extrapolations from the actual report. But 
such is the nature of politics.

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#521377

On 09/15/2015 11:04 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 9/15/15 8:46 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change
>> report
>>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-governor-schools-gop-presidential-candidate-on-climate-change/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> Dear Dr. Carson,
>>>
>>> I hope you've enjoyed your visit to the Golden State. It's come to my
>>> attention that while you were here you said the following regarding
>>> climate science:
>>>
>>> "I know there are a lot of people who say 'overwhelming science,' but
>>> then when you ask them to show the overwhelming evidence, they never
>>> show it…There is no overwhelming science that the things that are
>>> going on are man-caused and not naturally caused. Gimmie a break."
>>>
>>> Please find enclosed a flash drive with the complete United Nations
>>> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) "Synthesis Report,"
>>> the concluding installment of the Fifth Assessment Report, published
>>> earlier this year. This report assessed over 30,000 scientific papers
>>> and was written by more than 800 scientists, representing 80
>>> countries around the world, who definitively concluded that: "…human
>>> influence on the climate system is clear and growing, with impacts
>>> observed across all continents and oceans."
>>>
>>> This is just one of the thousands of reports authored by the world's
>>> top scientists on the subject, including a study published just last
>>> month by Columbia University, University of Idaho and NASA Goddard
>>> Institute for Space Studies scientists that found climate change has
>>> intensified California's drought. These aren't just words. The
>>> consequences are real.
>>>
>>> Please use your considerable intelligence to review this material.
>>> Climate change is much bigger than partisan politics.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Jerry Brown
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Reports
>    http://www.ipcc.ch
>
>    The IPCC is a scientific body under the auspices of the United
>    Nations (UN). It reviews and assesses the most recent
>    scientific, technical and socio-economic information produced
>    worldwide relevant to the understanding of climate change. It
>    does not conduct any research nor does it monitor climate
>    related data or parameters.
>
> Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis
>    http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/
>
> Climate Change 2014: Impacts, Adaptation, and Vulnerability
>    http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg2/
>
> Climate Change 2014: Mitigation of Climate Change
>    http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg3/
>
> Climate Change 2014: Synthesis Report
>    http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/syr/

Sammy you lying asshat, Ben Carson asked for "overwhelming science" and 
all you provide is a politician sending him a political propaganda 
piece! And even worse, the governor sent him the "synthesis" report not 
the actual report (which is huge). And the political summary contains 
statements directly the opposite of what the actual report contains!

And YOU personally, right here in this newsgroup have admitted that the 
IPCC is NOT a scientific group but rather a POLTIICAL group. Have you 
forgotten everything you ever said? Or are you just going to lie about 
it again?

Here's how much "overwhelming science" there is if we compare all the 
"warming models" with measured temperature:

https://nofrakkingconsensus.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/hayden_ipcc_arrow.jpg

Admit it. You've been shown this many times before. And the more WRONG 
the IPCC is about Warming the more they squeal that they are correct!

Dishonesty has no place in science, Asshat. Please take your lies to a 
political group.




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#521386

benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sammy you lying asshat, Ben Carson asked for "overwhelming science" and 
> all you provide is a politician sending him a political propaganda 
> piece! And even worse, the governor sent him the "synthesis" report not 
> the actual report (which is huge). And the political summary contains 
> statements directly the opposite of what the actual report contains!
> 
> And YOU personally, right here in this newsgroup have admitted that the 
> IPCC is NOT a scientific group but rather a POLTIICAL group. Have you 
> forgotten everything you ever said? Or are you just going to lie about 
> it again?
> 
> Here's how much "overwhelming science" there is if we compare all the 
> "warming models" with measured temperature:
> 
> https://nofrakkingconsensus.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/hayden_ipcc_arrow.jpg
> 
> Admit it. You've been shown this many times before. And the more WRONG 
> the IPCC is about Warming the more they squeal that they are correct!
> 
> Dishonesty has no place in science, Asshat. Please take your lies to a 
> political group.
 
 
Carson quote that got Brown's panties in a wad:

"I know there are a lot of people who say 'overwhelming science,' but
then when you ask them to show the overwhelming science, they never
can show it. There is no overwhelming science that the things that
are going on are man-caused and not naturally caused."

Brown: lawyer and professional politician

Carson: author, neurosurgeon, professor of neurosurgery, oncology, plastic
surgery and politician

At least Carson has had some science education.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#522095

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 11:04:04 AM UTC-4, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 9/15/15 8:46 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:

xxein:  It's all a lie.  The petroleum companies said so.  It's a plot to make the poor petroleum companies spend all their money on commercials to defend themselves.

These global warming nuts are even forcing Boeing and GE to buy expensive ad time during the news.

In a show of my support for these companies, I'm going to buy my airplanes only from Boeing, only use only GE electricity and use only Shell gas for my planes and for my 687 hp. lawnmower.

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#521317

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report

You do know we call him Governor Moonbeam, don't you, spamming shit head?


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#522115

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:46:31 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> California governor sends Ben Carson a thumbdrive with climate change report
> > http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/09/california-governor-schools-gop-presidential-candidate-on-climate-change/
> 
> > Dear Dr. Carson,
> >
> > I hope you've enjoyed your visit to the Golden State. It's come to my
> > attention that while you were here you said the following regarding
> > climate science:
> >
> > "I know there are a lot of people who say 'overwhelming science,' but
> > then when you ask them to show the overwhelming evidence, they never
> > show it...There is no overwhelming science that the things that are
> > going on are man-caused and not naturally caused. Gimmie a break."
> >
> > Please find enclosed a flash drive with the complete United Nations
> > Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) "Synthesis Report,"
> > the concluding installment of the Fifth Assessment Report, published
> > earlier this year. This report assessed over 30,000 scientific papers
> > and was written by more than 800 scientists, representing 80
> > countries around the world, who definitively concluded that: "...human
> > influence on the climate system is clear and growing, with impacts
> > observed across all continents and oceans."
> >
> > This is just one of the thousands of reports authored by the world's
> > top scientists on the subject, including a study published just last
> > month by Columbia University, University of Idaho and NASA Goddard
> > Institute for Space Studies scientists that found climate change has
> > intensified California's drought. These aren't just words. The
> > consequences are real.
> >
> > Please use your considerable intelligence to review this material.
> > Climate change is much bigger than partisan politics.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jerry Brown


Jerry Brown doesn't know climate change from a hole in the ground!

Double-A

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#522123

On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-4, Double-A wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:46:31 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:> 
> 
> Jerry Brown doesn't know climate change from a hole in the ground!
> 
> Double-A

xxein:  Go ahead.  Kill the messenger.  That will make everything go your way.

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