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Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees

Started bySergio <invalid@invalid.com>
First post2016-05-26 21:48 -0500
Last post2016-05-27 17:05 +0000
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  Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-26 21:48 -0500
    Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 09:14 -0500
      Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-05-27 10:43 -0400
      Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 09:50 -0500
        Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-05-27 11:11 -0400
        Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees Sleepalot <sleepalot07@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-02 03:04 +0100
        Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees Eric© <eric@nil.invalid.com> - 2016-06-01 19:22 -0700
      Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 10:14 -0500
        Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-05-27 11:21 -0400
        Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-27 17:06 +0000
      Re: Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-27 17:05 +0000

#580856 — Max Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-05-26 21:48 -0500
SubjectMax Global Worming temperature rise is only 8 degrees
Message-ID<ni8cip$vdk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C

http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/
Unmitigated

well, if we *burned all the fuel*, and *all the estimated fuel* on and 
in Earth, the max it could go is ONLY 8 degrees ! so what is the big deal...


"In the absence of global mitigation actions, five trillion tonnes of 
carbon (5 EgC), corresponding to the lower end of the range of estimates 
of the total fossil fuel resource, is often cited as an estimate of 
total cumulative emissions.

These models simulate, in response to 5 EgC of CO2 emissions, global 
mean warming of 6.4–9.5  °C,... mean regional precipitation increases by 
more than a factor of four."


 > http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/

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#580937

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-27 09:14 -0500
Message-ID<ZYWdnZC9ccTLy9XKnZ2dnUU7-WGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#580856
On 5/26/16 9:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
> Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C
> http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/
> Unmitigated
>


NASA | Global Climate Change (Vital Signs of the Planet)
   http://climate.nasa.gov

   Below are some of the impacts that are currently visible
   throughout the U.S. and will continue to affect these
   regions, according to the Third National Climate Assessment
   Report 2, released by the U.S. Global Change Research
   Program:

   Northeast. Heat waves, heavy downpours and sea level rise
   pose growing challenges to many aspects of life in the
   Northeast. Infrastructure, agriculture, fisheries and
   ecosystems will be increasingly compromised. Many states and
   cities are beginning to incorporate climate change into
   their planning.

   Northwest. Changes in the timing of streamflow reduce water
   supplies for competing demands. Sea level rise, erosion,
   inundation, risks to infrastructure and increasing ocean
   acidity pose major threats. Increasing wildfire, insect
   outbreaks and tree diseases are causing widespread tree
   die-off.

   Southeast. Sea level rise poses widespread and continuing
   threats to the region's economy and environment. Extreme
   heat will affect health, energy, agriculture and more.
   Decreased water availability will have economic and
   environmental impacts.

   Midwest. Extreme heat, heavy downpours and flooding will
   affect infrastructure, health, agriculture, forestry,
   transportation, air and water quality, and more. Climate
   change will also exacerbate a range of risks to the Great
   Lakes.

   Southwest. Increased heat, drought and insect outbreaks, all
   linked to climate change, have increased wildfires.
   Declining water supplies, reduced agricultural yields,
   health impacts in cities due to heat, and flooding and
   erosion in coastal areas are additional concerns.

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#580948

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2016-05-27 10:43 -0400
Message-ID<q6ngkb5h65r3ej4jqeo00aquqvtd5hi3ma@4ax.com>
In reply to#580937
On Fri, 27 May 2016 09:14:46 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

>On 5/26/16 9:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C
>> http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/
>> Unmitigated
>>
>
>
>NASA | Global Climate Change (Vital Signs of the Planet)
>   http://climate.nasa.gov

Sam misses the point again. Who is surprised?

If the cause of your AGW effect is exhausted, the result can't live up
to your doomsaying.

Proof by contradiction: your attribution of cause is bullshit.

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#580950

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-27 09:50 -0500
Message-ID<ZYWdnYm9ccQ9w9XKnZ2dnUU7-WGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#580937
On 5/27/16 9:14 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/26/16 9:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
> Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C
> http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/
> Unmitigated
>
>

   Scorched Earth in 2100: Interactive Nasa map reveals how climate
   change will cause temperatures Rise
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25W_z91A-NI


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#580961

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2016-05-27 11:11 -0400
Message-ID<2oogkbhphthhkphft50rge1iv61k00uoi3@4ax.com>
In reply to#580950
On Fri, 27 May 2016 09:50:08 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

>On 5/27/16 9:14 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 5/26/16 9:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C
>> http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/
>> Unmitigated
>>
>>
>
>   Scorched Earth in 2100: Interactive Nasa map reveals how climate
>   change will cause temperatures Rise
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25W_z91A-NI

***Will*** cause?

This is the same agency that said we would have colonies in space by
now, isn't it? 

What is the track record of climastrologists so far, say over the last
20 years?

What is "salvation" in your religion, Sam?

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#582246

FromSleepalot <sleepalot07@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-06-02 03:04 +0100
Message-ID<nio3vh$1bg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#580950
On 27/05/2016 15:50, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/27/16 9:14 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 5/26/16 9:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C
>> http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/
>> Unmitigated
>>
>>
>
>   Scorched Earth in 2100: Interactive Nasa map reveals how climate
>   change will cause temperatures Rise
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25W_z91A-NI
>

The title is a lie: "will" becomes "could", and that "could"
is for RCP8.5 - an absurd scenerio.

Also, "project" becomes "predict", and "GISS" becomes "NASA".

And it didn't even show the warming - it just flashed maps around.




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#582262

FromEric© <eric@nil.invalid.com>
Date2016-06-01 19:22 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.31b93851c537f703989da2@reader.albasani.net>
In reply to#580950
Sam Wormley wrote...
> 
> On 5/27/16 9:14 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > On 5/26/16 9:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
> > Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C
> > http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/
> > Unmitigated
> >
> >
> 
>    Scorched Earth in 2100: Interactive Nasa map reveals how climate
>    change will cause temperatures Rise
>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25W_z91A-NI

I thought temperature rise was global warming aka climate change.  So global warming 
causes global warming?

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#580964

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-27 10:14 -0500
Message-ID<ZYWdnYW9ccTb-dXKnZ2dnUU7-WGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#580937
> On 5/26/16 9:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C
>> http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/



   Cold Years in the Future Could Be Hotter Than the Hottest Years Now
 > 
http://science.time.com/2013/10/10/cold-years-in-the-future-will-be-hotter-than-the-hottest-years-now/

 > One of the biggest challenges about reporting on climate change is
 > scale. An example: the world has come to agree that we should work to
 > keep global temperatures from rising more than 3.6º F (2º C) above
 > levels that were normal before we began pumping carbon dioxide into
 > the atmosphere in the 19th century. (Temperatures have already risen
 > by about 1º F.) But what does a 3.6º F change really mean to the
 > average person? On Wednesday in New York City, the temperature ranged
 > between 55º and 66º F, and it felt like a completely normal day. (In
 > fact, it was almost exactly average—historically temperatures in New
 > York City on Oct. 9 have ranged between 53º and 63v F.) If we’re
 > accustomed to handling much bigger temperature variations on an
 > average autumn day—let alone the weather changes from summer to
 > winter—it shouldn’t be hard to adapt to a climate in which the
 > average temperature is just 3º F or so warmer than average, right?
 >
 > Wrong. As an important new study published in Nature shows, even what
 > seems like a small increase in the average air temperature could have
 > a major effect on the planet—and on our well being. After crunching
 > data from existing climate models, researchers from the University of
 > Hawaii at Manoa, led by the geographer Camilo Mora, calculated that
 > by 2047, plus or minus five years, the average temperatures in each
 > year will be hotter across most of the planet than they had been at
 > those places in any year between 1860 and 2005, the span of years for
 > which scientists have the most reliable records. By about
 > mid-century, the coldest year will be warmer than the hottest year in
 > the past.



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#580968

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2016-05-27 11:21 -0400
Message-ID<cfpgkblj82i9jinnqesidmgkheqqf3qkh7@4ax.com>
In reply to#580964
On Fri, 27 May 2016 10:14:14 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

>sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>community, and physics-related social issues.

You just keep spewing to the same thread, and cross-posting to a.g-w.

Where is *your* discussion?

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#581006

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-05-27 17:06 +0000
Message-ID<tdbm1d-7jp.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#580964
In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/26/16 9:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>> Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C
>>> http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/
> 
> 
> 
>   Cold Years in the Future Could Be Hotter Than the Hottest Years Now

Repeating the conjecture and lies doesn't make them true, ass hat.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#581005

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-05-27 17:05 +0000
Message-ID<4bbm1d-7jp.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#580937
In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/26/16 9:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> Emissions Would Warm Earth By 8C
>> http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/2016/05/23/unmitigated-emissions/
>> Unmitigated
>>
> 
> 
> NASA | Global Climate Change (Vital Signs of the Planet)

Conjecture and lies.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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