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| Started by | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-08-06 08:48 -0500 |
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Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 08:48 -0500
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 14:37 -0700
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-06 15:55 -0700
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-06 16:50 -0500
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-06 21:57 +0000
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 12:49 -0700
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-07 21:23 +0000
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-08-08 09:38 -0400
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 15:59 -0400
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 06:48 -0400
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-09 17:44 +0000
Re: Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 15:01 -0400
| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 08:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current |
| Message-ID | <-PidnW9QPec1-F7InZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current > http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/op-ed-how-i-gave-up-alternating-current/ > The walls are buzzing. I know this because I have a magnet implanted > in my hand and whenever I reach near an outlet I can feel them. I can > feel fortresses of industry miles away burning prehistoric > hydrocarbons by the megaton. I can feel the searing pain and loss of > consciousness from when I was shocked by exposed house wiring as a > boy. I can feel the deep cut of the power bill when I was living near > the poverty line. I can feel the cold uncertainty of the first time > the power went out due to a storm when I was a child. How long before > the delicate veil of civilization turns to savagery with no light nor > heat nor refrigeration? > > The grid, smart or not, is wasteful. Power generation produces 32% of > all greenhouse gases, more than any other economic sector. Most power > in the US is generated by burning coal, immediately squandering 67% > of its energy, then run through a steam turbine, losing another 50%, > then sent across transmission lines, losing another 5%, then to > charge a DC device like a cell phone another 50% is lost in > conversion. This means for 100 watts of coal or oil burned my phone > gets a mere 16. In this light a solar panel that is 18% efficient > doesn’t seem that bad. > > Instead of ever increasing our energy production, what if we focused > instead on reducing our consumption? I expect power will be at a > premium in our first space colonies, and DC only from solar cells. > So, I embarked on an experiment to see if I could survive without the > luxury of alternating current. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 14:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <76d87f02-0c3b-4330-a6bf-fb91b4fdbbce@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511556 |
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:48:27 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current > > http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/op-ed-how-i-gave-up-alternating-current/ > > > > The walls are buzzing. I know this because I have a magnet implanted > > in my hand and whenever I reach near an outlet I can feel them. I can > > feel fortresses of industry miles away burning prehistoric > > hydrocarbons by the megaton. I can feel the searing pain and loss of > > consciousness from when I was shocked by exposed house wiring as a > > boy. I can feel the deep cut of the power bill when I was living near > > the poverty line. I can feel the cold uncertainty of the first time > > the power went out due to a storm when I was a child. How long before > > the delicate veil of civilization turns to savagery with no light nor > > heat nor refrigeration? > > > > The grid, smart or not, is wasteful. Power generation produces 32% of > > all greenhouse gases, more than any other economic sector. Most power > > in the US is generated by burning coal, immediately squandering 67% > > of its energy, then run through a steam turbine, losing another 50%, > > then sent across transmission lines, losing another 5%, then to > > charge a DC device like a cell phone another 50% is lost in > > conversion. This means for 100 watts of coal or oil burned my phone > > gets a mere 16. In this light a solar panel that is 18% efficient > > doesn't seem that bad. > > > > Instead of ever increasing our energy production, what if we focused > > instead on reducing our consumption? I expect power will be at a > > premium in our first space colonies, and DC only from solar cells. > > So, I embarked on an experiment to see if I could survive without the > > luxury of alternating current. > > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues. Sam as long as GOP Mafia rules USA Progress Energy will give cancer to children.. TreBert
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 15:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mq0oj1$d1l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #511662 |
<Sam Wormley PLONKED Swine Glazier yesterday (05Aug2015), but Cretin Glazier tries to bait Sam Wormley with his "Shit & Glazierola>: > Sam as long as GOP Mafia rules USA Progress Energy will give cancer to > children.. TreBert > hanson wrote: Glazier, "your posts only show how mentally sick you are. When Bush gave our treasury to the bankers the mental hospitals had to close.Its a pity for people like you needed these hospitals. Find a Jewish doctor and be on medicare." > Glazier, if the above 4 lines, which are *your* own words, are not familiar to you, don't worry because your demented, senile condition becomes already apparent as soon as ... >> <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> :B::ert Glazier, the Swine, Hate monger, Jewish Jailbird, Faceshitter & Graveyard vandal, Racist and Bigot "reber g=emc^2" has introduced himself as/with > :B:: "I am a proud Jew with a Superiority complex & :B:: an IQ of 122", & "I do know how everything works,.." :B:: "Being Jewish I know this is so very true" -- Bert. :B:: "I'm a non-bible(torra) Jew I'm the only Jew that :B:: got 2 letters from two Popes. Bert :B:: "I gave G=EMC^2 (wrong & stolen) to the world" :B:: ***** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert ***** :B:: "Even the FBI has me as a trouble maker and :B:: the FBI blocks my phone from calling them. ".... :B:: cuz "I was mixing sulfur,carbon & iron together :B:: to make gun powder" ... which happened after.... > (3) On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015: when <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>, the Jewish Swine wrote: Harlow HVAC, Saul Levy & Benj, I'll be sitting on your face to take a shit & say: "Open wide". ... after. > (2) On 06Dec2014, you, Hebe Herbie, said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>: Reality is you always post under me for you are an ass kisser. For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser. Benj, you can thank me in advance. - TreBert. ... after > (1) On 25Mar2008 Swine Glazier wrote in: https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have agood laugh when it seeps down on your face. -- Bert. > (above template to be used to snip Bert's Glazierola and to administer loving "Recall Therapy" for Swine Glazier until Glazier acknowledges that Glazier is a Swine. > and Moderator General "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> Harlow Campbell succinctly added & wrote: > "Bert, your opinion doesn't count" "Bert you are an idiot." "TreBert, you are one stupid cocksucker". "Bert, Seriously. You are the stupidest cocksucking moron who ever came down the Mass Pike. "Bert, does your stupidity know no bounds?" "Bert, you really are a pathetic excuse for a human fucking being". "Bert is a racist. (And he's stupid too)" "Bert, are the stupidest cocksucker on the planet." "Spin THIS, Glazier, you fucking idiot." "Bert get some spelling lessons, you feeble-minded fuck". "Bert, you are a clueless cocksucker .... and "Bert you are senile, dazed & confused. Fucked in the head. "a trained cockroach is smarter than Bert" "Bert, you should be arrested" "Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your van seems to be a center for drug activity in the Wal-Mart parking lot". > -- > <http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy> <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>.
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| From | gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 16:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mq0kqq$u2f$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #511556 |
On 8/6/2015 8:48 AM, Sam Wormley wrote: > Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current > >> >> The grid, smart or not, is wasteful. WRONG !! what is effieiency of your solar panel ?? How much energy did it take to produce it ?? >> Power generation produces 32% of >> all greenhouse gases, more than any other economic sector. Most power >> in the US is generated by burning coal, immediately squandering 67% >> of its energy, then run through a steam turbine, losing another 50%, WRONG ! the 31% effeciency of coal plants INCLUDES steam turbine losses. take of your 50% >> then sent across transmission lines, losing another 5%, then to >> charge a DC device like a cell phone another 50% is lost in >> conversion. WRONG !! DC to DC chargers are 75% to 87% effecient This means for 100 watts of coal or oil burned my phone >> gets a mere 16. In this light a solar panel that is 18% efficient >> doesn’t seem that bad. WRONG !! >> >> Instead of ever increasing our energy production, what if we focused >> instead on reducing our consumption? I expect power will be at a >> premium in our first space colonies, and DC only from solar cells. >> So, I embarked on an experiment to see if I could survive without the >> luxury of alternating current. hey caveman, throw out your cellphone too
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 21:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rq1d9c-bvs.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #511556 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current <snip> >> Instead of ever increasing our energy production, what if we focused >> instead on reducing our consumption? I expect power will be at a >> premium in our first space colonies, and DC only from solar cells. >> So, I embarked on an experiment to see if I could survive without the >> luxury of alternating current. People survived for tens of thousands of years without electricity of any kind, on demand running water, central heat, air conditioning, refrigeration, motors of any kind, antibiotics, pain relievers, and a whole lot more; just not very well or for very long, ass hat. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 12:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <493b7f58-ea20-4e33-ab24-6a957130818f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511556 |
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:48:27 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current > > http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/op-ed-how-i-gave-up-alternating-current/ > > > > The walls are buzzing. I know this because I have a magnet implanted > > in my hand and whenever I reach near an outlet I can feel them. I can > > feel fortresses of industry miles away burning prehistoric > > hydrocarbons by the megaton. I can feel the searing pain and loss of > > consciousness from when I was shocked by exposed house wiring as a > > boy. I can feel the deep cut of the power bill when I was living near > > the poverty line. I can feel the cold uncertainty of the first time > > the power went out due to a storm when I was a child. How long before > > the delicate veil of civilization turns to savagery with no light nor > > heat nor refrigeration? > > > > The grid, smart or not, is wasteful. Power generation produces 32% of > > all greenhouse gases, more than any other economic sector. Most power > > in the US is generated by burning coal, immediately squandering 67% > > of its energy, then run through a steam turbine, losing another 50%, > > then sent across transmission lines, losing another 5%, then to > > charge a DC device like a cell phone another 50% is lost in > > conversion. This means for 100 watts of coal or oil burned my phone > > gets a mere 16. In this light a solar panel that is 18% efficient > > doesn't seem that bad. > > > > Instead of ever increasing our energy production, what if we focused > > instead on reducing our consumption? I expect power will be at a > > premium in our first space colonies, and DC only from solar cells. > > So, I embarked on an experiment to see if I could survive without the > > luxury of alternating current. > > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues. Sam If every building produces its own power and water it would be a big step for humankind.No need for long distant heavy wires,and AC. Calif is the perfect place.NYC best city Africa most needed.TreBert
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 21:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <48kf9c-jom.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #511781 |
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:48:27 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current >> > http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/op-ed-how-i-gave-up-alternating-current/ >> >> >> > The walls are buzzing. I know this because I have a magnet implanted >> > in my hand and whenever I reach near an outlet I can feel them. I can >> > feel fortresses of industry miles away burning prehistoric >> > hydrocarbons by the megaton. I can feel the searing pain and loss of >> > consciousness from when I was shocked by exposed house wiring as a >> > boy. I can feel the deep cut of the power bill when I was living near >> > the poverty line. I can feel the cold uncertainty of the first time >> > the power went out due to a storm when I was a child. How long before >> > the delicate veil of civilization turns to savagery with no light nor >> > heat nor refrigeration? >> > >> > The grid, smart or not, is wasteful. Power generation produces 32% of >> > all greenhouse gases, more than any other economic sector. Most power >> > in the US is generated by burning coal, immediately squandering 67% >> > of its energy, then run through a steam turbine, losing another 50%, >> > then sent across transmission lines, losing another 5%, then to >> > charge a DC device like a cell phone another 50% is lost in >> > conversion. This means for 100 watts of coal or oil burned my phone >> > gets a mere 16. In this light a solar panel that is 18% efficient >> > doesn't seem that bad. >> > >> > Instead of ever increasing our energy production, what if we focused >> > instead on reducing our consumption? I expect power will be at a >> > premium in our first space colonies, and DC only from solar cells. >> > So, I embarked on an experiment to see if I could survive without the >> > luxury of alternating current. >> >> >> -- >> >> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated >> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics >> community, and physics-related social issues. > > Sam If every building produces its own power and water it would be a big step for humankind.No need for long distant heavy wires,and AC. Calif is the perfect place.NYC best city Africa most needed.TreBert Don't forget the apple trees and chicken coop for apple pie and a chicken in every pot. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 09:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ga1csata3plvdbstf89kb7qnetpve0d4bo@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #511556 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 08:48:24 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: >Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current >> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/op-ed-how-i-gave-up-alternating-current/ <snip> >> Instead of ever increasing our energy production, what if we focused >> instead on reducing our consumption? I expect power will be at a >> premium in our first space colonies, and DC only from solar cells. >> So, I embarked on an experiment to see if I could survive without the >> luxury of alternating current. And *survival* is enough for *other* people; right, Sam? Only those who are more equal than others should *live* and thrive. Once the "useless eaters" are gone, Greenie-world will be like Lake Wobegon: all the children are above average.
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 15:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1dtxx.9311$Ry3.6979@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #511881 |
On 08/08/2015 09:38 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 08:48:24 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>> Op-ed: How I gave up alternating current
>>> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/op-ed-how-i-gave-up-alternating-current/
>
> <snip>
>
>>> Instead of ever increasing our energy production, what if we focused
>>> instead on reducing our consumption? I expect power will be at a
>>> premium in our first space colonies, and DC only from solar cells.
>>> So, I embarked on an experiment to see if I could survive without the
>>> luxury of alternating current.
>
> And *survival* is enough for *other* people; right, Sam?
>
> Only those who are more equal than others should *live* and thrive.
>
> Once the "useless eaters" are gone, Greenie-world will be like Lake
> Wobegon: all the children are above average.
Just another Sammy "green" fantasy. Did Sam ever try to get by on pure
solar power? Well I HAVE! In preparation for Y2K and just as an
interesting experiment, I set up a solar system in my house. As a test
it was several hundred bucks (not including battery) and charging rate
during day was lucky to reach an amp. Basically it let you watch some TV
(to get news of the vast destruction across the country) and have a few
LED lights at night. You were NOT going to wash clothes, run a furnace
blower, or sump pump with this unless the system was expanded to
enormous expense. Simply not practical to use to "live". A system scaled
big enough to run your house would be exorbitantly expensive.
A nice fossil fuel generator on the other hand was a winner. Spewing CO2
and nasty chemicals, it would run any major appliance in the house, so
long as you could feed it fuel. And it could easily be converted from
gasoline to natural gas which would make it even more useful except in
the direst of emergencies.
You see, Wally, the problem with Greens like Sammy is they are only
"idea men". They don't do "quantity". They let the technical nerds
figure that out once they have provided the great brilliant ideas of how
to "save" everybody!
The Bottom line is that solar power is indeed great IF you are building
a massive dam to use it or your house is on the top of some mountain and
you'd like to watch TV. But as a "savior" of mankind from those horrid
"carbon footprints"? Well that is clearly nothing but pure unmitigated
fantasy and bunk. Wormley needs to take his "ideas" back to the outhouse
where he found them.
PS. And did I mention? The low charging rate eventually ruined my
expensive boat trolling battery. Greens don't worry about details like
that. That's "technical" details!
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-09 06:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mq7b3a$665$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #511964 |
On 8/8/2015 3:59 PM, benj wrote: > > Just another Sammy "green" fantasy. Did Sam ever try to get by on pure > solar power? Well I HAVE! In preparation for Y2K and just as an > interesting experiment, I set up a solar system in my house. Lol! BJ was a Y2K nut as well! This keeps getting better. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-08-09 17:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <j5gk9c-t1o.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #512074 |
HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/8/2015 3:59 PM, benj wrote: >> >> Just another Sammy "green" fantasy. Did Sam ever try to get by on pure >> solar power? Well I HAVE! In preparation for Y2K and just as an >> interesting experiment, I set up a solar system in my house. > > > Lol! BJ was a Y2K nut as well! This keeps getting better. > Personally, the worst I expected from Y2K was a few screwed up interest statements; I only got one. I did get some negative reactions when I laughed at people who thought airplanes were going to fall out of the sky. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-09 15:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mq87u7$r44$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #512148 |
On 8/9/2015 1:44 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 8/8/2015 3:59 PM, benj wrote: >>> >>> Just another Sammy "green" fantasy. Did Sam ever try to get by on pure >>> solar power? Well I HAVE! In preparation for Y2K and just as an >>> interesting experiment, I set up a solar system in my house. >> >> >> Lol! BJ was a Y2K nut as well! This keeps getting better. >> > > Personally, the worst I expected from Y2K was a few screwed up interest > statements; I only got one. > > I did get some negative reactions when I laughed at people who thought > airplanes were going to fall out of the sky. I had a guy (Reminded me of BJ) who told me that I wouldn't be able to make my coffee on the morning of Jan. 1, 2000. I asked him why and he told me that my coffeemaker wouldn't know what time it was. I told him I had a cheap ass coffeemaker with no clock. He then changed the subject -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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