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  Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 18:54 -0500
    Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 16:59 -0700
      Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-12 20:37 -0500
    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-12 20:36 -0500
    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D emptypost@hotmail.com - 2016-06-12 20:53 -0700
    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-13 14:16 +0200
      Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 09:07 -0700
        Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 10:15 -0700
          Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-13 12:50 -0500
            Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 11:13 -0700
              Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-13 21:47 -0400
      Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-06-13 12:20 -0700
        Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 21:45 -0700
          Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-15 07:05 -0400
      Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 14:13 -0700
      Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-13 20:44 -0400
        Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 17:59 -0700
          Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-13 21:31 -0400
            Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 18:45 -0700
            Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 13:29 +0200
              Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 05:07 -0700
                Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-14 09:37 -0400
                Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 15:43 +0200
                  Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 07:14 -0700
                    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 16:31 +0200
                      Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 08:23 -0700
                        Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 17:31 +0200
                          Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 08:39 -0700
                            Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 18:44 +0200
                              Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 10:41 -0700
                                Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 11:19 -0700
                                Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 21:59 +0200
                  Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 07:16 -0700
                    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 07:20 -0700
              Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 13:05 -0700
        Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 13:22 +0200
          Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-14 18:58 -0500
      Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-14 08:06 -0400
        Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-14 08:56 -0400
          Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 16:07 +0200
            Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-14 14:58 -0400
              Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 21:49 +0200
            Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-15 07:42 -0400
              Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-15 15:06 +0200
                Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-15 09:38 -0400
                  Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 06:43 -0700
                  Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-15 17:20 +0200
                    dimensional glasses (polarized e.g noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 16:11 -0700
                    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-15 23:00 -0400
                      Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 12:08 -0700
          Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-14 14:43 -0400
    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 12:51 -0700
    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 12:52 -0700
    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D xxein1@att.net - 2016-06-14 16:54 -0700
    Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-16 16:06 -0400

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#584619 — Why We're All Trapped In 3-D

Why We're All Trapped In 3-D
> http://www.npr.org/2016/06/07/481137385/why-were-all-trapped-in-3-d


> We are all trapped in space — the space of three dimensions. NPR
> blogger and astrophysicist Adam Frank takes us to the next
> dimension.

> It was Einstein who showed us that time can be thought of as a fourth
> dimension. Just like you can drive from west to east along Interstate
> 80, all of us are constantly traveling from the past to the future
> through time. Of course the weird thing about time as a dimension is
> you can only travel one way.
>
> These days, a lot of physicists are going beyond Einstein and think
> there might be extra dimensions of space that we just don't
> experience. If we found them, suddenly there'd be extra directions to
> travel in and more space to fill. But for now we're all just stuck in
> 3D.



-- 

sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
community, and physics-related social issues.

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#584640

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I agree with your NO.

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#584639

On 6/12/2016 6:54 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why We're All Trapped In 3-D
>> http://www.npr.org/2016/06/07/481137385/why-were-all-trapped-in-3-d
>
>


no, 4D

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#584673

The fourth dimension is a coordinate system identification.

Any attempt to add more and more parameters just adds detail to the coordinate system ID.

For instance, the star locations in the night sky depend on the time. So the time in that case is the coordinate system ID.

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#584696

[posted & mailed]

Sam Wormley spammed in sci.physics:

> [the usual way]

I have been very patient with you, but enough is enough.  You have started 
no less than 13(!) threads with such "news" on 2016-06-12, from 02:45 to 
20:46 inclusive (my timezone) here.  Today I am counting 4 such postings 
already and it is just afternoon.

First of all, as you have been told countless times before, learn to quote.  
The “>” character is _not_ to be used to mark quotations from sources 
outside the thread so as to leave no ambiguity.

Second, you ought to tag any science "news" via the Subject header field 
accordingly (e.g. preceded by “[News]”), so that they can be filtered out 
when one is interested in the discussions that are going on here.

Your unsolicited human gatewaying makes it almost impossible to find those 
discussions, yet *that* is what this newsgroup is about.  IOW, you are 
interfering with the normal operation of this newsgroup, and you ought to 
stop doing that.  This applies to other newsgroups, like 
sci.physics.relativity, as well.

Continued failure on your part to adhere to the basic conventions of 
Netiquette laid out above will cause all your postings to be considered 
"news" and filtered out by default here.  Rest assured that I/we do not need 
you to learn of them.

Further, it is then being considered to report you for spamming with your 
service provider(s), which may result in the suspension or cancellation of 
your account(s) there due to violation of the providers’ Acceptable Use 
Policies.

You have been warned.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#584707

On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 2:16:58 PM UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> [posted & mailed]
> 
> Sam Wormley spammed in sci.physics:
> 
> > [the usual way]
> 
> I have been very patient with you, but enough is enough.  You have started 
> no less than 13(!) threads with such "news" on 2016-06-12, from 02:45 to 
> 20:46 inclusive (my timezone) here.  Today I am counting 4 such postings 
> already and it is just afternoon.
> 
> First of all, as you have been told countless times before, learn to quote.  
> The “>” character is _not_ to be used to mark quotations from sources 
> outside the thread so as to leave no ambiguity.
> 
> Second, you ought to tag any science "news" via the Subject header field 
> accordingly (e.g. preceded by “[News]”), so that they can be filtered out 
> when one is interested in the discussions that are going on here.
> 
> Your unsolicited human gatewaying makes it almost impossible to find those 
> discussions, yet *that* is what this newsgroup is about.  IOW, you are 
> interfering with the normal operation of this newsgroup, and you ought to 
> stop doing that.  This applies to other newsgroups, like 
> sci.physics.relativity, as well.
> 
> Continued failure on your part to adhere to the basic conventions of 
> Netiquette laid out above will cause all your postings to be considered 
> "news" and filtered out by default here.  Rest assured that I/we do not need 
> you to learn of them.
> 
> Further, it is then being considered to report you for spamming with your 
> service provider(s), which may result in the suspension or cancellation of 
> your account(s) there due to violation of the providers’ Acceptable Use 
> Policies.
> 
> You have been warned.
> 
> -- 
> PointedEars
> 
> Twitter: @PointedEars2
> Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

Who are you to judge Sam Wormley`s posts as spam? And who do you think you are to be warning anyone in this new group. Arrogance is ignorance and I find that your judging and giving warnings very arrogant. I for one appreciate Sam`s posts. It is all the bickering in this new group that bothers me. You do not have to reply to any posts if you can not add any positive value to them.
Andrew Vecsey  

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#584719

Who are you to judge Sam Wormley`s posts as spam? And who do you think you are to be warning anyone in this new group. Arrogance is ignorance and I find that your judging and giving warnings very arrogant. I for one appreciate Sam`s posts. It is all the bickering in this new group that bothers me. You do not have to reply to any posts if you can not add any positive value to them. 
--------

I'm with you, Trudy!

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#584725

On 6/13/2016 12:15 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Who are you to judge Sam Wormley`s posts as spam? And who do you
> think you are to be warning anyone in this new group. Arrogance is
> ignorance and I find that your judging and giving warnings very
> arrogant. I for one appreciate Sam`s posts. It is all the bickering
> in this new group that bothers me. You do not have to reply to any
> posts if you can not add any positive value to them. --------
>
> I'm with you, Trudy!
>

sams ok,
ya, he purifyith sci.physics with foul waters at times,
the ROS does need dilution with real physics-like stories
and there are some great ones that are solid,

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#584729

Yes, Pointed, Sam's stories CAN be
accessed elsewhere.
But I don't read elsewhere.
Perhaps YOU would like to pass
on some BETTER articles?

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#584798

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:13:07 -0700 (PDT), john wrote:

>Yes, Pointed, Sam's stories CAN be
>accessed elsewhere.

Apparently, Sam doesn't blog elsewhere, either.

This newsgroup is not intended to be the sole source of input or
expression for anyone.

>But I don't read elsewhere.
>Perhaps YOU would like to pass
>on some BETTER articles?

A newsgroup is not a clipping service.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_monitoring_service


Read Sam's sig:
sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
community, and physics-related social issues.

Dropping a copy and paste of words written by others (without
permission) and without one's own commentary is trolling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum
Forum trolls are users that repeatedly and deliberately breach the
netiquette of an established online community, posting inflammatory,
extraneous, or off-topic messages to bait or excite users into
responding 

Forum spamming is a breach of netiquette where users repeat the same
word or phrase over and over, 

... such as "climate change."

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#584739

On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 5:16:58 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> [posted & mailed]
> 
> Sam Wormley spammed in sci.physics:
> 
> > [the usual way]
> 
> I have been very patient with you, but enough is enough.  You have started 
> no less than 13(!) threads with such "news" on 2016-06-12, from 02:45 to 
> 20:46 inclusive (my timezone) here.  Today I am counting 4 such postings 
> already and it is just afternoon.
> 
> First of all, as you have been told countless times before, learn to quote.  
> The “>” character is _not_ to be used to mark quotations from sources 
> outside the thread so as to leave no ambiguity.
> 
> Second, you ought to tag any science "news" via the Subject header field 
> accordingly (e.g. preceded by “[News]”), so that they can be filtered out 
> when one is interested in the discussions that are going on here.
> 
> Your unsolicited human gatewaying makes it almost impossible to find those 
> discussions, yet *that* is what this newsgroup is about.  IOW, you are 
> interfering with the normal operation of this newsgroup, and you ought to 
> stop doing that.  This applies to other newsgroups, like 
> sci.physics.relativity, as well.
> 
> Continued failure on your part to adhere to the basic conventions of 
> Netiquette laid out above will cause all your postings to be considered 
> "news" and filtered out by default here.  Rest assured that I/we do not need 
> you to learn of them.
> 
> Further, it is then being considered to report you for spamming with your 
> service provider(s), which may result in the suspension or cancellation of 
> your account(s) there due to violation of the providers’ Acceptable Use 
> Policies.
> 
> You have been warned.
> 
> -- 
> PointedEars
> 
> Twitter: @PointedEars2
> Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.


Sam is all right with me, PointedEars.  He adds content for discussion to an otherwise dying group.  He may not be perfect in his methods, but who among us is?  Posters are not easily dumped off Usenet for spamming, unlike some other social media like Twitter!

Double-A

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#584961

On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 10:20:14 PM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 5:16:58 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > [posted & mailed]
> > 
> > Sam Wormley spammed in sci.physics:
> > 
> > > [the usual way]
> > 
> > I have been very patient with you, but enough is enough.  You have started 
> > no less than 13(!) threads with such "news" on 2016-06-12, from 02:45 to 
> > 20:46 inclusive (my timezone) here.  Today I am counting 4 such postings 
> > already and it is just afternoon.
> > 
> > First of all, as you have been told countless times before, learn to quote.  
> > The “>” character is _not_ to be used to mark quotations from sources 
> > outside the thread so as to leave no ambiguity.
> > 
> > Second, you ought to tag any science "news" via the Subject header field 
> > accordingly (e.g. preceded by “[News]”), so that they can be filtered out 
> > when one is interested in the discussions that are going on here.
> > 
> > Your unsolicited human gatewaying makes it almost impossible to find those 
> > discussions, yet *that* is what this newsgroup is about.  IOW, you are 
> > interfering with the normal operation of this newsgroup, and you ought to 
> > stop doing that.  This applies to other newsgroups, like 
> > sci.physics.relativity, as well.
> > 
> > Continued failure on your part to adhere to the basic conventions of 
> > Netiquette laid out above will cause all your postings to be considered 
> > "news" and filtered out by default here.  Rest assured that I/we do not need 
> > you to learn of them.
> > 
> > Further, it is then being considered to report you for spamming with your 
> > service provider(s), which may result in the suspension or cancellation of 
> > your account(s) there due to violation of the providers’ Acceptable Use 
> > Policies.
> > 
> > You have been warned.
> > 
> > -- 
> > PointedEars
> > 
> > Twitter: @PointedEars2
> > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
> 
> 
> Sam is all right with me, PointedEars.  He adds content for discussion to an otherwise dying group.  He may not be perfect in his methods, but who among us is?  Posters are not easily dumped off Usenet for spamming, unlike some other social media like Twitter!
> 
> Double-A

===========================
Sam is doing a good job as informer
but people here should know
that he has some disadvantages :
 *** he is a born parrot !!!**
ie
zero innovation ability about physics !!!
and that is not going to lead us any further 
that is so badly needed in the current situation of the the theoretic  physics!!! 

ATB
Y.Porat
=============================

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#584985

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:45:06 -0700 (PDT), Y.Porat wrote:

>On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 10:20:14 PM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
>> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 5:16:58 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> > [posted & mailed]
>> > 
>> > Sam Wormley spammed in sci.physics:
>> > 
>> > > [the usual way]
>> > 
>> > I have been very patient with you, but enough is enough.  You have started 
>> > no less than 13(!) threads with such "news" on 2016-06-12, from 02:45 to 
>> > 20:46 inclusive (my timezone) here.  Today I am counting 4 such postings 
>> > already and it is just afternoon.
>> > 
>> > First of all, as you have been told countless times before, learn to quote.  
>> > The “>” character is _not_ to be used to mark quotations from sources 
>> > outside the thread so as to leave no ambiguity.
>> > 
>> > Second, you ought to tag any science "news" via the Subject header field 
>> > accordingly (e.g. preceded by “[News]”), so that they can be filtered out 
>> > when one is interested in the discussions that are going on here.
>> > 
>> > Your unsolicited human gatewaying makes it almost impossible to find those 
>> > discussions, yet *that* is what this newsgroup is about.  IOW, you are 
>> > interfering with the normal operation of this newsgroup, and you ought to 
>> > stop doing that.  This applies to other newsgroups, like 
>> > sci.physics.relativity, as well.
>> > 
>> > Continued failure on your part to adhere to the basic conventions of 
>> > Netiquette laid out above will cause all your postings to be considered 
>> > "news" and filtered out by default here.  Rest assured that I/we do not need 
>> > you to learn of them.
>> > 
>> > Further, it is then being considered to report you for spamming with your 
>> > service provider(s), which may result in the suspension or cancellation of 
>> > your account(s) there due to violation of the providers’ Acceptable Use 
>> > Policies.
>> > 
>> > You have been warned.
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > PointedEars
>> > 
>> > Twitter: @PointedEars2
>> > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
>> 
>> 
>> Sam is all right with me, PointedEars.  He adds content for discussion to an otherwise dying group.  He may not be perfect in his methods, but who among us is?  Posters are not easily dumped off Usenet for spamming, unlike some other social media like Twitter!
>> 
>> Double-A
>
>===========================
>Sam is doing a good job as informer
>but people here should know
>that he has some disadvantages :
> *** he is a born parrot !!!**
>ie
>zero innovation ability about physics !!!
>and that is not going to lead us any further 
>that is so badly needed in the current situation of the the theoretic  physics!!! 
>
>ATB
>Y.Porat
>=============================

Sam's efforts make this group look like his blog.

Wouldn't it be better if he actually started a blog instead?

Since you think he does such a good job, you would follow him to his
blog; wouldn't you?

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#584766

time is not at all dimensional in hte way of the three to eleven dimensions
of spatiality, but it is certainly subjective.

saM ne'er speaks to any issue, that I have seen,\
that he may raise in his usual, offhand, totally mainstream-out

> > [the usual way]

> You have been warned.
> 
> -- 
> PointedEars
> 
> Twitter: @PointedEars2
> Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#584788

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:16:54 +0200, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

>[posted & mailed]
>
>Sam Wormley spammed in sci.physics:
>
>> [the usual way]
>
>I have been very patient with you, but enough is enough.  You have started 
>no less than 13(!) threads with such "news" on 2016-06-12, from 02:45 to 
>20:46 inclusive (my timezone) here.  Today I am counting 4 such postings 
>already and it is just afternoon.
>
>First of all, as you have been told countless times before, learn to quote.  
>The “>” character is _not_ to be used to mark quotations from sources 
>outside the thread so as to leave no ambiguity.
>
>Second, you ought to tag any science "news" via the Subject header field 
>accordingly (e.g. preceded by “[News]”), so that they can be filtered out 
>when one is interested in the discussions that are going on here.
>
>Your unsolicited human gatewaying makes it almost impossible to find those 
>discussions, yet *that* is what this newsgroup is about.  IOW, you are 
>interfering with the normal operation of this newsgroup, and you ought to 
>stop doing that.  This applies to other newsgroups, like 
>sci.physics.relativity, as well.
>
>Continued failure on your part to adhere to the basic conventions of 
>Netiquette laid out above will cause all your postings to be considered 
>"news" and filtered out by default here.  Rest assured that I/we do not need 
>you to learn of them.
>
>Further, it is then being considered to report you for spamming with your 
>service provider(s), which may result in the suspension or cancellation of 
>your account(s) there due to violation of the providers’ Acceptable Use 
>Policies.

Here's how:
https://support.google.com/mail/contact/gtag_headers?group=hijack_spam


>You have been warned.

No warning necessary. Sam has been annoying to many for a long time.

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#584793

Wally, why don't you and Lahn
post BETTER, more INTERESTING
stuff, AND make inciteful comments
for all of us?

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#584795

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:59:44 -0700 (PDT), john wrote:

>Wally, why don't you and Lahn
>post BETTER, more INTERESTING
>stuff, AND make inciteful comments
>for all of us?

Sam copies and pastes.

Where are his inciteful comments?

Where is his discussion he references in the sig/excuse for posting?

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#584797

Wally
Better than nothing
Do better
I love new physics stuff

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#584844

Wally W.  wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:59:44 -0700 (PDT), john wrote:
>> Wally, why don't you and Lahn post BETTER, more INTERESTING
>> stuff, AND make inciteful comments for all of us?

BTDT (and how well you know).

> Sam copies and pastes.
> 
> Where are his inciteful comments?

The proper spelling is _insightful_, …
 
> Where is his discussion he references in the sig/excuse for posting?

… and those are my points exactly.

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