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Why December Has The Longest Days

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First post2015-12-24 14:39 -0600
Last post2015-12-27 04:14 -0800
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  Why December Has The Longest Days Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 14:39 -0600
    Re: Why December Has The Longest Days "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 13:25 -0800
      Re: Why December Has The Longest Days Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 15:44 -0600
        Re: Why December Has The Longest Days "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 15:08 -0800
          Re: Why December Has The Longest Days jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-24 23:42 +0000
            Re: Why December Has The Longest Days "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 13:10 -0800
              Re: Why December Has The Longest Days Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 15:37 -0600
              Re: Why December Has The Longest Days jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-28 22:17 +0000
          Re: Why December Has The Longest Days HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 16:13 -0800
          Re: Why December Has The Longest Days benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 21:10 -0500
            Re: Why December Has The Longest Days jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-25 06:46 +0000
          Re: Why December Has The Longest Days Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 20:21 -0600
            Re: Why December Has The Longest Days "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 08:53 -0800
              Re: Why December Has The Longest Days jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-25 18:38 +0000
      Re: Why December Has The Longest Days jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-24 21:51 +0000
    Re: Why December Has The Longest Days Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-26 13:38 -0800
    Re: Why December Has The Longest Days Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 04:50 -0500
      Re: Why December Has The Longest Days NoeDOTNatDOTNoe <dedanoe@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 04:14 -0800

#541322 — Why December Has The Longest Days

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-24 14:39 -0600
SubjectWhy December Has The Longest Days
Message-ID<i5OdnTWf1o9pyuHLnZ2dnUU7-LWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Why December Has The Longest Days
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMMuv0Ltyo

> December has the longest solar days (noon-to-noon) because of the
> weird way a combination of the axial tilt of the earth and the
> eccentricity of its elliptical orbit conspire in December. Perihelion
> + Solstices = Long Days.
>
> Here’s some more info about:
>
> Solar Time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time

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#541343

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-24 13:25 -0800
Message-ID<705157b0-03f9-40b4-9ec8-3039b11c26d6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541322
On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:39:20 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why December Has The Longest Days
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMMuv0Ltyo
> 
> > December has the longest solar days (noon-to-noon) because of the
> > weird way a combination of the axial tilt of the earth and the
> > eccentricity of its elliptical orbit conspire in December. Perihelion
> > + Solstices = Long Days.
> >
> > Here's some more info about:
> >
> > Solar Time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time
> 
> -- 
> 
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I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert

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#541348

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-24 15:44 -0600
Message-ID<i5OdnS6f1o_R-uHLnZ2dnUU7-LWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#541343
On 12/24/15 3:25 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert

   As a weather forecaster, you have a lousy record, reber.
> http://edu-observatory.org/weather_forecast.html



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#541374

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-24 15:08 -0800
Message-ID<f0051098-a606-4e20-b10a-3755ee0c0d36@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541348
On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 1:44:48 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/24/15 3:25 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert
> 
>    As a weather forecaster, you have a lousy record, reber.
> > http://edu-observatory.org/weather_forecast.html
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.You Sam got to be a hate monger,and you do not see the truth,and rather lie.Read your posts  Treerty

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#541379

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-24 23:42 +0000
Message-ID<vfcukc-u6f.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#541374
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 1:44:48 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 12/24/15 3:25 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> > I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert
>> 
>>    As a weather forecaster, you have a lousy record, reber.
>> > http://edu-observatory.org/weather_forecast.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> community, and physics-related social issues.
> 
> I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.You Sam got to be a hate monger,and you do not see the truth,and rather lie.Read your posts  Treerty

Anyone that bothered to look at the Weather Channel or any other weather
forcast knew it was going to rain long before your "prediction".

Southern California averages 1.5 earthquakes per day of 1.5 or greater, so
"predicting" an earthquake on any given day is pretty much a sure thing.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#541999

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-28 13:10 -0800
Message-ID<ac88d99e-31ac-47de-b587-2e67f63d23d0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541379
On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 3:46:06 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 1:44:48 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >> On 12/24/15 3:25 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> >> > I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert
> >> 
> >>    As a weather forecaster, you have a lousy record, reber.
> >> > http://edu-observatory.org/weather_forecast.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> 
> >> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> >> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> >> community, and physics-related social issues.
> > 
> > I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.You Sam got to be a hate monger,and you do not see the truth,and rather lie.Read your posts  Treerty
> 
> Anyone that bothered to look at the Weather Channel or any other weather
> forcast knew it was going to rain long before your "prediction".
> 
> Southern California averages 1.5 earthquakes per day of 1.5 or greater, so
> "predicting" an earthquake on any given day is pretty much a sure thing.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

2.7 is how much greater than a 1.7?  TreBert

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#542004

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-28 15:37 -0600
Message-ID<hZadnfLHkYrjNhzLnZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#541999
On 12/28/15 3:10 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 3:46:06 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 1:44:48 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>> On 12/24/15 3:25 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>> I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert
>>>>
>>>>     As a weather forecaster, you have a lousy record, reber.
>>>>> http://edu-observatory.org/weather_forecast.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>>>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>>>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>>>
>>> I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.You Sam got to be a hate monger,and you do not see the truth,and rather lie.Read your posts  Treerty
>>
>> Anyone that bothered to look at the Weather Channel or any other weather
>> forcast knew it was going to rain long before your "prediction".
>>
>> Southern California averages 1.5 earthquakes per day of 1.5 or greater, so
>> "predicting" an earthquake on any given day is pretty much a sure thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>
> 2.7 is how much greater than a 1.7?  TreBert
>


   Amplitude -- 10.0
   Energy ----- 31.2



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#542018

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-28 22:17 +0000
Message-ID<p0p8lc-lio.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#541999
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 3:46:06 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 1:44:48 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> >> On 12/24/15 3:25 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> >> > I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert
>> >> 
>> >>    As a weather forecaster, you have a lousy record, reber.
>> >> > http://edu-observatory.org/weather_forecast.html
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> -- 
>> >> 
>> >> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> >> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> >> community, and physics-related social issues.
>> > 
>> > I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.You Sam got to be a hate monger,and you do not see the truth,and rather lie.Read your posts  Treerty
>> 
>> Anyone that bothered to look at the Weather Channel or any other weather
>> forcast knew it was going to rain long before your "prediction".
>> 
>> Southern California averages 1.5 earthquakes per day of 1.5 or greater, so
>> "predicting" an earthquake on any given day is pretty much a sure thing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jim Pennino
> 
> 2.7 is how much greater than a 1.7?  TreBert

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale

Magnitude 2.7 earthquakes are also an almost daily event in California.

There are over 1,000,000 earthquakes per year world wide ranging from
2.0 to 2.9.

There are over 100,000 earthquakes per year world wide ranging from
3.0 to 3.9.


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#541385

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-24 16:13 -0800
Message-ID<06f804c1-ffec-42c2-a5a0-c35acb5b076a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541374
show quoted text -
I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.You Sam got to be a hate monger,and you do not see the truth,and rather lie.Read your posts  Treerty 
------

Prediction!? Are you shitting me? You're so drunk you didn't even know when it HAD rained. You made bad predictions AFTER THE FACT!

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#541407

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-24 21:10 -0500
Message-ID<LA1fy.44954$J03.28014@fx20.iad>
In reply to#541374
On 12/24/2015 06:08 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 1:44:48 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 12/24/15 3:25 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>> I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert
>>
>>     As a weather forecaster, you have a lousy record, reber.
>>> http://edu-observatory.org/weather_forecast.html
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>
> I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.You Sam got to be a hate monger,and you do not see the truth,and rather lie.Read your posts  Treerty
>
Sam is a hate monger. All he predicted as gloom and doom due to the 
massive Kalifornia drought that he says will continue until everyone 
starts to pay their energy taxes.

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#541470

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-25 06:46 +0000
Message-ID<3c5vkc-ngh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#541407
benj <none@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/24/2015 06:08 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 1:44:48 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 12/24/15 3:25 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert
>>>
>>>     As a weather forecaster, you have a lousy record, reber.
>>>> http://edu-observatory.org/weather_forecast.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>>
>> I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.You Sam got to be a hate monger,and you do not see the truth,and rather lie.Read your posts  Treerty
>>
> Sam is a hate monger. All he predicted as gloom and doom due to the 
> massive Kalifornia drought that he says will continue until everyone 
> starts to pay their energy taxes.

In terrible news for the fear mongers, the Northern California snowpack
is 150% above normal for this time of year for the first time in many
years.

If the trend continues though the Winter, the drought will be over.

Anybody in the market for an unfinished desalinization plant? 

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Jim Pennino

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#541411

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-24 20:21 -0600
Message-ID<uY2dnVAm2dKQNeHLnZ2dnUU7-L9i4p2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#541374
On 12/24/15 5:08 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.


   No you didn't.

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#541487

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-25 08:53 -0800
Message-ID<683cc3fe-dc82-47bd-a17f-f7393859dec0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541411
On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 6:21:05 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/24/15 5:08 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.
> 
> 
>    No you didn't.
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
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No snow on Mt.Baldy.Clear bright blue sky.Calif is one big long state,and north is different weather.Very cool so no sailing for this skipper.TreBert

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#541501

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-25 18:38 +0000
Message-ID<c2f0lc-n0m.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#541487
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 6:21:05 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 12/24/15 5:08 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> > I predicted 3 rainy days and it came true.I predicted an EarthQuake.
>> 
>> 
>>    No you didn't.
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> community, and physics-related social issues.
> 
> No snow on Mt.Baldy.Clear bright blue sky.Calif is one big long state,and north is different weather.Very cool so no sailing for this skipper.TreBert

Yes, there is snow on Mt. Baldy, you drunken fool, just not enough yet
for skiing. If you went outside and looked at the mountain you would
be able to see the snow.

Big Bear is, and has been for some time now, open for skiing in Southern
California as are Mountain High, Snow Summit and Snow Valley.



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#541355

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-24 21:51 +0000
Message-ID<s06ukc-4ie.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#541343
reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:39:20 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Why December Has The Longest Days
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMMuv0Ltyo
>> 
>> > December has the longest solar days (noon-to-noon) because of the
>> > weird way a combination of the axial tilt of the earth and the
>> > eccentricity of its elliptical orbit conspire in December. Perihelion
>> > + Solstices = Long Days.
>> >
>> > Here's some more info about:
>> >
>> > Solar Time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> community, and physics-related social issues.
> 
> I hope that means Jan will get warm for me to sail.Sun is bright,and no rain in sight.TreBert

January is typically the coldest month of the year in the Norther Hemisphere.

If you want a warm January, move to Australia.


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Jim Pennino

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#541705

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-12-26 13:38 -0800
Message-ID<d7770add-bddb-4afa-9a99-2fc78b469664@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541322
On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:39:20 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why December Has The Longest Days
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMMuv0Ltyo
> 
> > December has the longest solar days (noon-to-noon) because of the
> > weird way a combination of the axial tilt of the earth and the
> > eccentricity of its elliptical orbit conspire in December. Perihelion
> > + Solstices = Long Days.
> >
> > Here's some more info about:
> >
> > Solar Time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time
> 


Note that because as Newton said, all natural days are not the same, both sunrise and sunset keep getting later throughout December, even though the day length starts getting longer after the solstice.  

http://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/portland-or

Double-A

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#541763

FromYousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Date2015-12-27 04:50 -0500
Message-ID<r7mdnV7USO_fKeLLnZ2dnUU7-dmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#541322
On 24/12/2015 3:39 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why December Has The Longest Days
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMMuv0Ltyo
>
>> December has the longest solar days (noon-to-noon) because of the
>> weird way a combination of the axial tilt of the earth and the
>> eccentricity of its elliptical orbit conspire in December. Perihelion
>> + Solstices = Long Days.
>>
>> Here’s some more info about:
>>
>> Solar Time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time

That means the southern hemisphere not only is closest to the Sun during 
their summers, but their summers also have more daylight.

	Yousuf Khan

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#541773

FromNoeDOTNatDOTNoe <dedanoe@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-27 04:14 -0800
Message-ID<c09ab19d-3a41-4aee-a767-2a38562c478e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#541763
On Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 10:49:57 AM UTC+1, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On 24/12/2015 3:39 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > Why December Has The Longest Days
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMMuv0Ltyo
> >
> >> December has the longest solar days (noon-to-noon) because of the
> >> weird way a combination of the axial tilt of the earth and the
> >> eccentricity of its elliptical orbit conspire in December. Perihelion
> >> + Solstices = Long Days.
> >>
> >> Here's some more info about:
> >>
> >> Solar Time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time
> 
> That means the southern hemisphere not only is closest to the Sun during 
> their summers, but their summers also have more daylight.
> 
> 	Yousuf Khan

the amount of heat that earth collects from sun depends on the incoming angle of sun's light not on apogee-perigee distance between sun and earth.

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