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Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence

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  Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-23 23:42 +0200
    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 17:12 -0500
      Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-24 01:21 +0200
      Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 00:06 +0000
    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-24 13:28 -0400
      Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 12:45 -0500
        Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 17:54 +0000
      Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-25 05:41 +0200
        Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-25 11:05 -0400
          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-25 20:53 +0200
            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-25 15:51 -0400
              Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-26 03:33 +0200
                Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-26 07:47 -0400
                  Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (FNN stupid) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 08:34 -0500
                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (FNN stupid) "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-26 09:55 -0400
                      Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:36 -0500
                        Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-26 11:00 -0400
                          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 15:43 -0500
                            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-26 16:52 -0400
                            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 14:14 -0700
                        Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:00 +0000
                          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 17:12 -0400
                            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 21:24 +0000
                              Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 17:52 -0400
                                Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 22:15 +0000
                                  Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 19:19 -0400
                                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 23:52 +0000
                                      Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-27 04:12 -0400
                                        Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-27 17:04 +0000
                                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 13:11 -0500
                                  Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Note 4 jim) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-27 09:25 -0500
                                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Note 4 jim) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-27 17:05 +0000
                                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Note 4 jim) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:45 -0500
                                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Note 4 jim) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 20:04 -0500
                                      Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Note 4 jim) BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-28 11:30 -0400
                                        Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Note 4 jim) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 18:39 -0500
                                          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Note 4 jim) BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-28 23:16 -0400
                                Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 18:29 -0400
                                  Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 19:29 -0400
                                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-27 09:48 -0400
                                  Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (NORAD lied) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-27 09:19 -0500
                                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (NORAD lied) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 10:34 -0500
                          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-28 16:26 -0500
                            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-28 21:40 +0000
                            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-29 04:47 +0200
                        Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (Fakery is stupid) benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 13:01 -0400
                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (FNN stupid) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-26 19:08 +0200
                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (FNN stupid) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:27 -0500
                      Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (FNN stupid) je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-27 10:00 -0700
                        Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence  (FNN stupid) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-27 17:13 +0000
                        Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-27 16:12 -0500
                          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 16:26 -0500
                          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-27 21:22 +0000
                          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-27 16:42 -0500
                            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis) "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 14:54 -0700
                              Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-27 17:04 -0500
                                Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %) "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 15:13 -0700
                                Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-27 23:05 +0000
                                Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 23:52 -0500
                            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-27 21:51 +0000
                          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-28 06:11 +0200
                            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( proving FNN is worthlesss) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-28 08:55 -0500
                              Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( proving FNN is worthlesss) Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-28 19:02 +0200
                              Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( proving FNN is worthlesss) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-28 17:58 +0000
                              Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( proving FNN is worthlesss) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-28 23:53 -0500
                                Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( proving FNN is worthlesss) "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 22:06 -0700
                                Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( proving FNN is   worthlesss) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-29 08:49 +0200
                          Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis) Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-28 21:05 +0100
                  Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-26 22:29 +0200
                    Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-26 16:42 -0400
                      Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 05:43 +0200
            Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 16:10 -0500
              Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-26 19:27 +0200

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#517195 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (NORAD lied)

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-27 09:19 -0500
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (NORAD lied)
Message-ID<kLOdnXw4q5kCgULInZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#517125
"BDK" <Control@Worldcontrol.com> wrote in message 
news:MPG.304807e829a9df6f98c24b@news.giganews.com...
> In article <mrlccm$ler$1@dont-email.me>, fakename@nomail.invalid says...
>>>
>> When special closed circuit camera's at the pentagon only were able to 
>> catch
>> a blur between frames.
>> (and we are supposed to believe that blur was a whole plane)
>
> Lots of people saw the "whole plane", kOOk.

BKD you spelled "Crisis Actors" wrong you clown.

BTW so far I've caught the EPA, NIST, the NNSA and the USGS lying about 
9/11/01 events and I can add NORAD to the list too now.  See:

Senator Dayton: NORAD Lied About 9/11
 http://www.911truth.org/senator-dayton-norad-lied-about-911/

Not just NORAD but the FAA too.  See:

New book by 9/11 commission co-chairman Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton
Indicate lies by the FAA, NORAD and the Pentagon
 http://911review.org/Media/CNN_FAA_NORAD_DOD_LIED.html

Rocky 

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#517208 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (NORAD lied)

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-27 10:34 -0500
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (NORAD lied)
Message-ID<mrnanb$qde$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#517195
On 8/27/2015 9:19 AM, Rocky wrote:
>
>
> Rocky
>
>

real cause of collapse by this;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_the_Flying_Squirrel#/media/File:Rocky_the_flying_squirrel.jpg

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#517519 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid)

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-28 16:26 -0500
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid)
Message-ID<d4ednWkQ7tXST33InZ2dnUU7-WmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#517034
<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
news:iu71bc-7ci.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I've never seen any evidence of a 757 ramming the Pentagon and I even 
>> heard
>> Flight 93 landed safely before they started a bullshit story about that
>> Flight crashing at Pranksville.
>
> You could try talking to one of the many eyewitnesses that saw the
> airline's markings on the aircraft and the passengers looking out
> the windows, kook.

You spelled liewitnesses wrong you clown.

And don't forget that the #1 Pentagon Witness claimed he even saw the wings 
of the alleged Flight 77 fold it's wings back even though no 757 has been 
able to do that.  <G>  Go to about 2:01 in the following video:

9/11 Pentagon Attack Eyewitness Mike Walter
 https://youtu.be/f0vxc50xAbk

And if you look at the games the military was playing on 9/11 one of them 
was a game that used bogus blips on the radar so now we know the truth about 
the alleged Flight 77.

Or for more about what really crashed at the Pentagon see.

Behind the Smoke Curtain - 2nd Edition (2015)
(time indexed to start at 24:45)
 https://youtu.be/VXBk8JqwFlw?t=24m45s

Rocky. 

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#517522 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid)

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-28 21:40 +0000
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid)
Message-ID<3417bc-9f8.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#517519
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> And don't forget that the #1 Pentagon Witness claimed he even saw the wings 
> of the alleged Flight 77 fold it's wings back even though no 757 has been 
> able to do that.  <G>  Go to about 2:01 in the following video:

"the #1 Pentagon Witness"??

You really are a delusional, bat shit crazy, kook.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517558 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid)

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2015-08-29 04:47 +0200
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid)
Message-ID<5b1e146eed670a7147704441bada636f@dizum.com>
In reply to#517519
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Rocky (aka Michael S. Guthrie of 6913 Maynard Road, Summerfield, NC),
in <news:d4ednWkQ7tXST33InZ2dnUU7-WmdnZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly
jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
> news:iu71bc-7ci.ln1@mail.specsol.com...

>> In sci.physics Rocky (aka Michael S. Guthrie of
>> 6913 Maynard Road, Summerfield, NC) <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>>> I've never seen any evidence of a 757 ramming the Pentagon and I even 
>>> heard Flight 93 landed safely before they started a bullshit story
>>> about that Flight crashing at Pranksville.

>> You could try talking to one of the many eyewitnesses that saw the
>> airline's markings on the aircraft and the passengers looking out
>> the windows, kook.

> You spelled liewitnesses wrong you clown.
> 
> And don't forget that the #1 Pentagon Witness claimed he even saw the wings 
> of the alleged Flight 77 fold it's wings back even though no 757 has been 
> able to do that.  <G>  Go to about 2:01 in the following video:
> 
> 9/11 Pentagon Attack Eyewitness Mike Walter
>  https://youtu.be/f0vxc50xAbk

That video proves you wrong, Mike. Which means it proves you're lying,
Mike. Did you even bother to watch the entirety of that video prior to
using it as "evidence", Mike? I bet not.

Kook. LOL

> And if you look at the games the military was playing on 9/11 one of them 
> was a game that used bogus blips on the radar so now we know the truth about 
> the alleged Flight 77.

For your reference, ASR-11 has an average power of 2.1 kW, and can
only see out to ~60 miles line-of-sight. To project across the entire
US to affect all radar towers would take multiple megawatts of
transmitting power. So there's the first impossible hurdle to "false
blips".

The secondary system receives flight data from aircraft transponders.
If they were going to inject "false blips", they'd first have to match
the pulse compression for each receiving radar tower (which
automatically changes with varying weather conditions to improve SNR
and thus would be impossible to match using a single transmitting
source), so they'd have to have multiple signal sources at the correct
altitude, location, speed and pulse compression. So there's the
second, third, fourth and fifth impossible hurdles to "false blips".

Otherwise, the "false blips" would be detected as clutter and Doppler
filtered out.

The very best the military could hope to do is jam the radar, which
would just snow the screen, effectively blinding the airport radar...
it'd detect nothing.

Do you even know how radar works, Mike?

<http://www.911myths.com/index.php/False_blips>
"Conclusion
As we've seen, there are some 9/11 researchers who state definitively
that there were "false blips" on FAA radar screens. And yet, take a
closer look and you find there's absolutely no evidence to support
this. It's just another example of empty speculation being presented
as fact, and another reason why you should be careful to verify 9/11
claims before accepting them as true."

IOW, you're just a paranoid-delusional schizophrenic off his meds,
Michael Scott Guthrie. Take your meds, Mike.

Kook. LOL

> Or for more about what really crashed at the Pentagon<SMACKAKOOK!>

American Airlines Flight 77 crashed at the Pentagon. That has been
proven. You're just a paranoid-delusional schizophrenic off his meds.
Take your meds, Michael Scott Guthrie.

Kook. LOL

> Rocky.

Now, get to addressing the 19 ways your kook conspiracy theory
violates the laws of physics:

======================================================
1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of
collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below
the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to
today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact that at that
depth, the temperature is so high things like metal *melt*. That's
*why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al
Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole *ever* dug in human
history)... the equipment fails. That's why the Kola Superdeep
Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep.

2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the WCBS video *you* provided wasn't an
EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd been a
nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of
the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused
the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount of shielding would
have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the
immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized
your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for
dozens of miles radius.

3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's
no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been
from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of
radioactivity for decades. It was found to be beta radiation from the
tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapon sights
that was the source. That you're gullible enough not to know that a
nuke would spread radiation far and wide is testament to how
delusional you are.

4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex or
anywhere in NYC (MID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>).
They found tritium from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement
weapons sites, radium from industrial sources unrelated to nuclear
weapons and background levels for all other sources of radiation.

5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be
sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people
in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed,
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the order of 2
MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were
buried.

6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron
source. It naturally radioactively decays over time, and its decay
byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it
decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon
poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger
being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any
sort of nuclear chain reaction.

7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as* *it*
*was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling vertical
support column and *NO* EMP:
======================
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo>
You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column
buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount
of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP.
======================

8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going to
survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would be
approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the temperature
would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K?

9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through a
hole without any of the compressive blast going out into surrounding
rock.

10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic
taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of
satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were
detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill effects
were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or aircraft.

11) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel you claim were sent
down to service those nukes (because now that you know the
neutron-source triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a
periodic basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire
facility at 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the
technology to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with
"4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area
the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced to
admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched for 33
years and maintained their viability) are supposed to survive in 960
to 1840 degree heat?

12) You admitted (MID:<ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com>)
that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers (all
1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked off to the
Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your admission with your
kook blather that significant percentages of the buildings "vaporized"
(your word) and "floated toward Europe" (your words)?

13) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic
signatures for these 19 nukes you k'lame were detonated at the WTC
site on 11 Sep 2001?

14) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris
kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep
underground, Ko0K?

15) Explain how the 19 nukes you claimed to have existed could have
tunneled holes from the underground installation 37.28 to 96.93 miles
deep that you claimed to have existed, to directly under the WTC
complex... in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to
detonating directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up
your timing between the detonations you claim took place (for which
you used the WCBS video, claiming the satellite uplink interference
was "EMP") and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion
started. Congratulations, Dimwit, you've made the full circuit on The
Island of Insanity. Now go 'round again.).

16) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes
(MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to your
previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously k'lamed 3
nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain is squirming
under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality, screaming in
agony at its being forced to see just how delusional it truly is?
While you're at it, get to explaining how the regular rad sweeps
(radiological surveys) at the twin towers (because the space was
primarily rented by government agencies) showed no nukes or any
contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes were obtained and put in
place without drawing any attention whatsoever. Of course, this
*still* fucks up your timing between the detonations (ie: your claimed
"EMP" on the WCBS video) and the collapses, leading you back to where
your delusion started... that unresolvable logic hole rears its ugly
head again. LOL

17) Your broken brain is yet again expanding your delusion with your
"34 or more nukes" blather (you're now saying there were 65 nukes
(MID: <984122ddbf1e4e5d6f5a7b3f56eeeb6f@dizum.com>))... eventually,
your broken brain will be telling you that NYC today is a CGI and the
real city was blown up by
1,592,629,490,173,371,449,138,916,004,581,949 intelligent nano-nukes
which autonomously dug their way up from their secret underground
MoleMan base 15,682,941 miles below the surface of our hollow planet
and attached themselves to every steel part of every building in NYC
and vaporized them and they all floated down to MoleVille, and the
fact that the EMP from all those nukes detonating at once didn't burn
out every electrical generating station, electrical substation, every
piece of electronic equipment, every vehicle, every aircraft... that's
*proof* that NYC is a CGI today! LOL

18) Explain how a nuclear weapon wouldn't have nuclear detonation
byproducts with the right nuclear trigger, according to your words
"with the right detonator you could have a 'clean' nuke" (MID:
<43acc7488b179f3bfea83ef7076f92b9@dizum.com>).

19) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID:
<e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of
widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're
off your meds, Mike.

Do you see how utterly ridiculous you're beginning to sound? Get back
on your meds, you delusional loon.
======================================================

There are now 19 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the laws of
physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each one, point by
point, or people are gonna know you're just a retard who can't grasp
simple physics.

Kook. LOL

-- 

------------------------------------
Michael Scott Guthrie (aka Rocky)
336-643-6611
6913 Maynard Road
Summerfield, NC 27358-9206

Now that everyone knows who you are, they can get you the psychiatric
help you so desperately need. Perhaps they could call your mother
Paula S. Guthrie, given that you're in your 30's and you still live at
home with mommy... and Grandma Martha. LOL

Your brother Scott certainly won't be happy to know you're
embarrassing the Guthrie family name, how's he gonna find real estate
clients if everyone knows the Guthries are a pack of schizo kooks? LOL

Just how many backwoods redneck hillbillies can fit in one small 1200
sf 3bd/1.5 ba house?! Does RockyRetard share a bedroom with his
brother? Or do they make Grandma Martha sleep on the porch? LOL
------------------------------------

Michael Guthrie (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in
trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain
becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate
(which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes
larger and larger leaps of illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.

B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL

G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole
seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL

H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID:
<e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of
widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're
off your meds, Mike.

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#517035 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid)

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-26 13:01 -0400
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (Fakery is stupid)
Message-ID<rhmDx.3313$tw.3214@fx02.iad>
In reply to#517002
On 08/26/2015 10:36 AM, Rocky wrote:
> ""Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA
> (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA
> 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:op.x3zaa6f8tm21m2@benson.localhost...
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:34:29 -0400, Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ""Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA
>>> (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA
>>> 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
>>> news:op.x3y4czg9tm21m2@benson.localhost...
>>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:33:24 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
>>>> are you intentionally this fucking stupid?
>>>
>>> Talk about the Friendly Neighborhood Nut being stupid.  He thinks WCBS in
>>> Nuke York City uses satellite to get from the helicopter to the station.
>>>
>>> And he never figured out that if the station had a directional AM antenna
>>> and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they picked
>>> up so
>>> many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>
>> you are at least 10 times as stupid as fakeyTurd displays here and you're
>> not even pretending to be stupid.
>>
>> you are an example of what happens when someone unquestioningly believes
>> EVERYTHING they read on the internet.
>
> WHAT THE FCUK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
>
> I've never seen any evidence of a 757 ramming the Pentagon and I even heard
> Flight 93 landed safely before they started a bullshit story about that
> Flight crashing at Pranksville.
>
> I was even in the LA area when there was a great big fire that burned for
> hours in the First Interstate Bank Building.
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Interstate_Tower_fire
>
> I even went down there in the morning while the ground was still wet from
> all the water and that building remained standing the entire time so why
> didn't the Twin Towers keep standing?  And don't give me bullshit from NIST
> because they have been proven to be liars.  <G>
>
> So because I knew we were fed bullshit about Flight 77 and Flight 93 and
> I've seen high rise buildings survive big fires I knew we were not told the
> entire story about the Twin Towers and it just so happens one person showed
> the details that the news left out that only NCDs could do.
>
> Rocky

Rocky, don't you know governments never lie! Well or if they do one can 
easily tell if they are by simply asking HVAC or ODDball. There is only 
ONE way to know what is true. And that is to believe EVERYTHING HVAC and 
Boinker tell you with all your heart.

Rocko, I don't think it's too late for you to still love Big Brother!

"Explosion has two forces inner and outward. Inner creates matter outer 
energy. There can be no life without the inner force of 
compression.There would be no light without the explosion force of 
photons."

HVAC pretending to know science. HVAC is insane.



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#517040 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (FNN stupid)

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2015-08-26 19:08 +0200
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (FNN stupid)
Message-ID<a76ab231b6bd83e8a5be153ea7fdd952@dizum.com>
In reply to#516992
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Rocky (aka Michael S. Guthrie of 6913 Maynard Road, Summerfield, NC),
in <news:bIqdnZ1XQ-gIXUDInZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly
jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> Robert M. Wolfe the Pittsburgh Pied Piper Of Penis (aka DildoRider) of
> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as
><root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:op.x3y4czg9tm21m2@benson.localhost...

>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:33:24 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler

>> are you intentionally this fucking stupid?

Says the guy who's admitted he's "really stupid" (your words). LOL

> Talk about the Friendly Neighborhood Nut being stupid.  He thinks WCBS in 
> Nuke York City uses satellite to get from the helicopter to the station.

And what alternative would they use, you brain-dead fuckwit?

Run a CAT6 cable along behind the helicopter so they can hook up to
the internet?

Run microwave, which is line of sight and thus would necessitate
reorienting the microwave antenna whenever the helicopter moved, and
certainly wouldn't work if they flew past a building that interrupted
their line of sight to the receiving antenna?

Satellite phone? Which has a grainy picture due to low bandwidth?

They transmit from an omnidirectional antenna to a VHF mobile receiver
on the ground, which relays it to satellite... because helicopters
until recently had problems transmitting to satellite directly due to
blade interference.

Sort of like this:
<http://cyclingtipscontent.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/HF-Complex-Long-Distance-System.jpg>

Fuck, you are about the stupidest person ever, Mike.

Kook. LOL

> And he never figured out that if the station had a directional AM antenna

Bwahahahaaa! A "directional AM antenna" on a moving helicopter, which
would have to be reoriented whenever the helicopter moved, and which
would lose signal every time it went behind a building?

You're retarded and delusional. Take your meds, Mike.

Kook. LOL
 
> and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they picked up so 
> many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.

NO EMPs were ever "picked up", you delusional retard. A nuke EMP would
have knocked that fucking helicopter out of the sky. It would have
fried all cameras in a radius of dozens of miles. There would be no
video of the collapses nor the immediate aftermath. Each video you
provide of the collapses and the immediate aftermath proves your own
kooky conspiracy theory wrong.

IOW, you're delusional and off your meds. Take your meds, Mike.

> Rocky

Now, get to addressing the 18 ways your kook conspiracy theory
violates the laws of physics:

======================================================
1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of
collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below
the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to
today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact that at that
depth, the temperature is so high things like metal *melt*. That's
*why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al
Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole *ever* dug in human
history)... the equipment fails. That's why the Kola Superdeep
Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep.

2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the WCBS video *you* provided wasn't an
EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd been a
nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of
the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused
the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount of shielding would
have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the
immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized
your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for
dozens of miles radius.

3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's
no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been
from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of
radioactivity for decades. It was found to be beta radiation from the
tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapon sights
that was the source. That you're gullible enough not to know that a
nuke would spread radiation far and wide is testament to how
delusional you are.

4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex or
anywhere in NYC (MID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>).
They found tritium from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement
weapons sites, radium from industrial sources unrelated to nuclear
weapons and background levels for all other sources of radiation.

5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be
sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people
in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed,
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the order of 2
MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were
buried.

6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron
source. It naturally radioactively decays over time, and its decay
byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it
decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon
poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger
being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any
sort of nuclear chain reaction.

7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as* *it*
*was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling vertical
support column and *NO* EMP:
======================
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo>
You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column
buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount
of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP.
======================

8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going to
survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would be
approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the temperature
would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K?

9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through a
hole without any of the compressive blast going out into surrounding
rock.

10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic
taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of
satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were
detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill effects
were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or aircraft.

11) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel you claim were sent
down to service those nukes (because now that you know the
neutron-source triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a
periodic basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire
facility at 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the
technology to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with
"4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area
the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced to
admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched for 33
years and maintained their viability) are supposed to survive in 960
to 1840 degree heat?

12) You admitted (MID:<ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com>)
that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers (all
1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked off to the
Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your admission with your
kook blather that significant percentages of the buildings "vaporized"
(your word) and "floated toward Europe" (your words)?

13) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic
signatures for these 19 nukes you k'lame were detonated at the WTC
site on 11 Sep 2001?

14) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris
kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep
underground, Ko0K?

15) Explain how the 19 nukes you claimed to have existed could have
tunneled holes from the underground installation 37.28 to 96.93 miles
deep that you claimed to have existed, to directly under the WTC
complex... in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to
detonating directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up
your timing between the detonations you claim took place (for which
you used the WCBS video, claiming the satellite uplink interference
was "EMP") and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion
started. Congratulations, Dimwit, you've made the full circuit on The
Island of Insanity. Now go 'round again.).

16) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes
(MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to your
previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously k'lamed 3
nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain is squirming
under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality, screaming in
agony at its being forced to see just how delusional it truly is?
While you're at it, get to explaining how the regular rad sweeps
(radiological surveys) at the twin towers (because the space was
primarily rented by government agencies) showed no nukes or any
contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes were obtained and put in
place without drawing any attention whatsoever. Of course, this
*still* fucks up your timing between the detonations (ie: your claimed
"EMP" on the WCBS video) and the collapses, leading you back to where
your delusion started... that unresolvable logic hole rears its ugly
head again. LOL

17) Your broken brain is yet again expanding your delusion with your
"34 or more nukes" blather (you're now saying there were 65 nukes
(MID: <984122ddbf1e4e5d6f5a7b3f56eeeb6f@dizum.com>))... eventually,
your broken brain will be telling you that NYC today is a CGI and the
real city was blown up by
1,592,629,490,173,371,449,138,916,004,581,949 intelligent nano-nukes
which autonomously dug their way up from their secret underground
MoleMan base 15,682,941 miles below the surface of our hollow planet
and attached themselves to every steel part of every building in NYC
and vaporized them and they all floated down to MoleVille, and the
fact that the EMP from all those nukes detonating at once didn't burn
out every electrical generating station, electrical substation, every
piece of electronic equipment, every vehicle, every aircraft... that's
*proof* that NYC is a CGI today! LOL

18) Explain how a nuclear weapon wouldn't have nuclear detonation
byproducts with the right nuclear trigger, according to your words
"with the right detonator you could have a 'clean' nuke" (MID:
<43acc7488b179f3bfea83ef7076f92b9@dizum.com>).

Do you see how utterly ridiculous you're beginning to sound? Get back
on your meds, you delusional loon.
======================================================

There are now 18 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the laws of
physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each one, point by
point, or people are gonna know you're just a retard who can't grasp
simple physics.

Kook. LOL

-- 

------------------------------------
Michael Scott Guthrie (aka Rocky)
336-643-6611
6913 Maynard Road
Summerfield, NC 27358-9206

Now that everyone knows who you are, they can get you the psychiatric
help you so desperately need. Perhaps they could call your mother
Paula S. Guthrie, given that you're in your 30's and you still live at
home with mommy... and Grandma Martha. LOL

Your brother Scott certainly won't be happy to know you're
embarrassing the Guthrie family name, how's he gonna find real estate
clients if everyone knows the Guthries are a pack of schizo kooks? LOL

Just how many backwoods redneck hillbillies can fit in one small 1200
sf 3bd/1.5 ba house?! Does RockyRetard share a bedroom with his
brother? Or do they make Grandma Martha sleep on the porch? LOL
------------------------------------

Michael Guthrie (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in
trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain
becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate
(which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes
larger and larger leaps of illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.

B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL

G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole
seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL

H) Your brain becoming more and more broken, in just one short day it
moved from G) above to now telling you there are *more* than 34 nukes.
Where does your broken brain stop, Ko0k? Billions of intelligent
nano-nukes covering every metal surface of the twin towers? Robot
"crisis actors" able to withstand the extreme radiation? All of NYC
being blow up, replaced by a CGI that we all are fooled by today? LOL

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#517170 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (FNN stupid)

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-27 04:27 -0500
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (FNN stupid)
Message-ID<mvlttal454sjru872q3r9cnf9sbg9a9rtg@4ax.com>
In reply to#516992
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:34:29 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>
>""Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA 
>(aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 
>15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message 
>news:op.x3y4czg9tm21m2@benson.localhost...
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:33:24 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
>> are you intentionally this fucking stupid?
>
>Talk about the Friendly Neighborhood Nut being stupid.  He thinks WCBS in 
>Nuke York City uses satellite to get from the helicopter to the station.
>
>And he never figured out that if the station had a directional AM antenna 
>and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they picked up so 
>many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.
>

     No EMPs were present. This has been proved many times.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#517218 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (FNN stupid)

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2015-08-27 10:00 -0700
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (FNN stupid)
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-7AFFCE.10002027082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#517170
> >And he never figured out that if the station had a directional AM antenna 
> >and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they picked up so 
> >many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.

Do television stations really use AM for private communication?

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#517224 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (FNN stupid)

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-27 17:13 +0000
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence (FNN stupid)
Message-ID<33t3bc-p8r.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#517218
In sci.physics je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>> >And he never figured out that if the station had a directional AM antenna 
>> >and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they picked up so 
>> >many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.
> 
> Do television stations really use AM for private communication?

Nope; about the only form of communications that still uses AM is
aircraft. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517286 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-27 16:12 -0500
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)
Message-ID<MKmdndzPQoH14ELInZ2dnUU7-c-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#517218
"je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message 
news:charlie-gordon1492-7AFFCE.10002027082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
>> >And he never figured out that if the station had a directional AM 
>> >antenna
>> >and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they picked 
>> >up so
>> >many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.
>
> Do television stations really use AM for private communication?

You just aren't thinking because if WCBS was using FM there is no way they 
could have recorded the EMP at the exact same time the ground below the 
North Tower shook the North Tower like a tuning fork.

9/11 WTC North Tower collapse by Etienne Sauret. Visible shaking 12 seconds 
before collapse
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM88xJX5FsA

Nuclear destruction of the WTC
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FNGWsjj_Y

Rocky


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#517294 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-27 16:26 -0500
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)
Message-ID<mrnva9$dn9$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#517286
On 8/27/2015 4:12 PM, Rocky wrote:
> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message

>
> 9/11 WTC North Tower collapse by Etienne Sauret. Visible shaking 12 seconds
> before collapse
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM88xJX5FsA

no earthquack at all. have you ever watched it ?

>
> Nuclear destruction of the WTC
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FuckwadNGWsjj_Y
>


No Radiation detected, Dude !


> Rocky, the lying Squirrelly
>
>
>

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#517297 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-27 21:22 +0000
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)
Message-ID<rlb4bc-0ss.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#517286
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> You just aren't thinking because if WCBS was using FM there is no way they 
> could have recorded the EMP at the exact same time the ground below the 
> North Tower shook the North Tower like a tuning fork.

Nobody recorded and EMP and no service other than aircraft has used AM
for communications for about a half century now, you raving, luantic, kook.

If there had been an EMP from even one nuclear explosion, all most all
of the electronics in the immediate area would have been toast, kook.


<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517301 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-27 16:42 -0500
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)
Message-ID<Ms6dnaXcRpn3GULInZ2dnUU7-bGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#517286
"je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message 
news:charlie-gordon1492-314EED.14284127082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
> In article <MKmdndzPQoH14ELInZ2dnUU7-c-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>
>> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
>> news:charlie-gordon1492-7AFFCE.10002027082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
>> >> >And he never figured out that if the station had a directional AM
>> >> >antenna
>> >> >and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they 
>> >> >picked
>> >> >up so
>> >> >many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.
>> >
>> > Do television stations really use AM for private communication?
>>
>> You just aren't thinking because if WCBS was using FM there is no way 
>> they
>> could have recorded the EMP at the exact same time the ground below the
>
> Actually I am thinking if you cannot get something this simple straight, 
> why
> would I believe you cannot get anything more complicated, like your zipper 
> fly,
> straight.

That is the way I feel about what NIST stated about WTC7.

Since the NIST report about the Twin Towers was filled with complete and 
udder bullshit why should I believe what NIST wrote about WTC7?  See:

Playlist for the Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#517306 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)

From"%" <persent@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-27 14:54 -0700
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)
Message-ID<8nkm7k.b0k.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#517301
Rocky wrote:
> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
> news:charlie-gordon1492-314EED.14284127082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
>> In article <MKmdndzPQoH14ELInZ2dnUU7-c-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
>>> news:charlie-gordon1492-7AFFCE.10002027082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
>>>>>> And he never figured out that if the station had a directional AM
>>>>>> antenna
>>>>>> and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they
>>>>>> picked
>>>>>> up so
>>>>>> many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.
>>>>
>>>> Do television stations really use AM for private communication?
>>>
>>> You just aren't thinking because if WCBS was using FM there is no
>>> way they
>>> could have recorded the EMP at the exact same time the ground below
>>> the
>>
>> Actually I am thinking if you cannot get something this simple
>> straight, why
>> would I believe you cannot get anything more complicated, like your
>> zipper fly,
>> straight.
>
> That is the way I feel about what NIST stated about WTC7.
>
> Since the NIST report about the Twin Towers was filled with complete
> and udder bullshit why should I believe what NIST wrote about WTC7?  See:
>
> Playlist for the Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

why should anyone care what you believe 

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#517314 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %)

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-27 17:04 -0500
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %)
Message-ID<nO2dndrCSJcuFELInZ2dnUU7-WWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#517306
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:8nkm7k.b0k.19.1@news.alt.net...
> Rocky wrote:
>> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
>> news:charlie-gordon1492-314EED.14284127082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
>>> In article <MKmdndzPQoH14ELInZ2dnUU7-c-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
>>>> news:charlie-gordon1492-7AFFCE.10002027082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
>>>>>>> And he never figured out that if the station had a directional AM
>>>>>>> antenna
>>>>>>> and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they
>>>>>>> picked
>>>>>>> up so
>>>>>>> many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do television stations really use AM for private communication?
>>>>
>>>> You just aren't thinking because if WCBS was using FM there is no
>>>> way they
>>>> could have recorded the EMP at the exact same time the ground below
>>>> the
>>>
>>> Actually I am thinking if you cannot get something this simple
>>> straight, why
>>> would I believe you cannot get anything more complicated, like your
>>> zipper fly,
>>> straight.
>>
>> That is the way I feel about what NIST stated about WTC7.
>>
>> Since the NIST report about the Twin Towers was filled with complete
>> and udder bullshit why should I believe what NIST wrote about WTC7?  See:
>>
>> Playlist for the Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W
>
> why should anyone care what you believe

Because the war against terror is bogus.

The real "terrorist" are the ones that flew CGIs into the Twin Towers, used 
nukes to vaporize them and then paid NIST millions and millions of dollars 
for them to come up with total bullshit about what made the Twin Towers race 
a rock to the ground.

The facts prove the FAA lied, NORAD lied, the EPA lied, the NNSA lied. USGS 
lied and as I just stated NIST lied and not just lied but they lied BIG TIME 
as proven by the videos in the link right above your reply.

Rocky 

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#517315 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %)

From"%" <persent@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-27 15:13 -0700
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %)
Message-ID<8nknbg.hhe.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#517314
Rocky wrote:
> "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8nkm7k.b0k.19.1@news.alt.net...
>> Rocky wrote:
>>> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
>>> news:charlie-gordon1492-314EED.14284127082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
>>>> In article <MKmdndzPQoH14ELInZ2dnUU7-c-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
>>>>> news:charlie-gordon1492-7AFFCE.10002027082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
>>>>>>>> And he never figured out that if the station had a directional
>>>>>>>> AM antenna
>>>>>>>> and it was aimed at the North Tower that would explain why they
>>>>>>>> picked
>>>>>>>> up so
>>>>>>>> many EMPs and none of the other major networks did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do television stations really use AM for private communication?
>>>>>
>>>>> You just aren't thinking because if WCBS was using FM there is no
>>>>> way they
>>>>> could have recorded the EMP at the exact same time the ground
>>>>> below the
>>>>
>>>> Actually I am thinking if you cannot get something this simple
>>>> straight, why
>>>> would I believe you cannot get anything more complicated, like your
>>>> zipper fly,
>>>> straight.
>>>
>>> That is the way I feel about what NIST stated about WTC7.
>>>
>>> Since the NIST report about the Twin Towers was filled with complete
>>> and udder bullshit why should I believe what NIST wrote about WTC7?
>>> See: Playlist for the Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W
>>
>> why should anyone care what you believe
>
> Because the war against terror is bogus.
>
> The real "terrorist" are the ones that flew CGIs into the Twin
> Towers, used nukes to vaporize them and then paid NIST millions and 
> millions of
> dollars for them to come up with total bullshit about what made the Twin
> Towers race a rock to the ground.
>
> The facts prove the FAA lied, NORAD lied, the EPA lied, the NNSA
> lied. USGS lied and as I just stated NIST lied and not just lied but they 
> lied
> BIG TIME as proven by the videos in the link right above your reply.
>
> Rocky

who cares 

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#517329 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %)

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-27 23:05 +0000
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %)
Message-ID<omh4bc-s6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#517314
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> Because the war against terror is bogus.

You really are quite insane, you raving kook.

<snip remaining insane ravings>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517378 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %)

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-27 23:52 -0500
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 %)
Message-ID<mropdv$3fp$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#517314
On 8/27/2015 5:04 PM, Rocky wrote:

>>> Playlist for the Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
>>> https://www.BIGBOOBIES.com/watch?v=zvCuMUdLutddHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W
>>
>> why should anyone care what you believe
>
> Because the war against terror is bogus.

that is your opinion.

>
> The real "terrorist" are the ones that flew CGIs into the Twin Towers, used
> nukes to vaporize them and then paid NIST millions and millions of dollars
> for them to come up with total bullshit about what made the Twin Towers race
> a rock to the ground.

everyone saw the terrorists fly airplanes into the buildings. So what ?


<snip crap>


> Rocky
>
>

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#517310 — Re: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-27 21:51 +0000
SubjectRe: NIST's Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence ( 2 je suis)
Message-ID<fbd4bc-i1t.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#517301
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> Since the NIST report about the Twin Towers was filled with complete and 
> udder bullshit why should I believe what NIST wrote about WTC7?  See:

Translation: the NIST used big words, sience, math and engineering 
in the report and Rocky is too ignorant and stupid to understand
any of it.

Perhaps if the NIST would put together a dumbed down video targeted for
third graders and put it on Youtube, Rocky could understand it.


<snip remaining insane idiot ravings>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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