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  Two degrees of climate change may be too much Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 11:01 -0500
    Re: Two degrees of climate change may be too much gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-11 11:13 -0500
    Re: Two degrees of climate change may be too much jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-11 17:01 +0000
      urban heat-islanding noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 11:19 -0700
        Re: urban heat-islanding noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 12:04 -0700
    Re: Two degrees of climate change may be too much "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 10:18 -0700

#520316 — Two degrees of climate change may be too much

Two degrees of climate change may be too much
> http://thebulletin.org/two-degrees-climate-change-may-be-too-much8731


> Touring Alaska this week to shine a spotlight on global warming,
> President Obama warned that “climate change is no longer some far-off
> problem. It is happening here; it is happening now. Climate change is
> already disrupting our agriculture and ecosystems, our water and food
> supplies, our energy, our infrastructure, human health, human safety.
> Now. Today.”
>
> This wasn’t supposed to happen. In 2009, 114 countries signed the
> Copenhagen Accord, agreeing “to stabilize greenhouse gas
> concentration in the atmosphere at a level that would prevent
> dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system;”
> “recognizing the scientific view” that the increase in global
> temperature should be held to no more than 2 degrees Celsius” (3.6
> degrees Fahrenheit) above the pre-industrial level; and promising
> greater “long-term cooperative action to combat climate change.”
>
> Paradoxically, an accord that should have spurred the world to
> immediate action instead seemed to offer some breathing room. Two
> degrees was meant to be a ceiling, but repeated references to an
> internationally agreed-upon “threshold” led many people to believe
> that nothing really bad could happen below 2 degrees—or worse yet,
> that the number itself was negotiable. Perhaps the biggest failure of
> the Copenhagen Accord was its pact for “long-term” action. Forty
> years ago, climate change was a “long-term” problem. Today it’s an
> emergency.
>
> Today we’re only about halfway to the 2-degree mark, yet the climate
> is already haywire. Numbers such as 2 degrees and 350 parts per
> million (or ppm, which many climate activists have identified as a
> “safe” level for carbon dioxide in the atmosphere) have become
> enshrined in the climate debate. Meanwhile, though, civilization’s
> industrial machinery marches on. We’re already at 400 ppm of carbon
> dioxide, and it looks like we will blow by 2 degrees, too.
>
> Such numbers may mean little to the general public, but they matter a
> lot to negotiators who will be at Paris climate change talks in
> December. Unfortunately, the numbers that these negotiators plan to
> propose will only be part of non-legally-binding pledges—and they
> represent only what is achievable without too much difficulty, rather
> than the drastic austerity measures needed to stabilize emissions. In
> fact, 2 degrees is not an upper limit that the nations of the world
> recognize and respect, only a target that negotiators know they will
> overshoot with their expected pledges. The very idea that the Paris
> conference is a negotiation is ridiculous. You can’t negotiate with
> the atmosphere.



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#520317

On 9/11/2015 11:01 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Two degrees of climate change may be too much

>
>> Touring Alaska this week to shine a spotlight on global warming,
>> President Obama

Obama,
  the screwball "only politics matter" nutcase that is giving IRAN 130 
Billion dollars so they can fund more Terrorism, even after IRAN told 
him they would do so.  I back Israel.





>> Today we’re only about halfway to the 2-degree mark, yet the climate
>> is already haywire.

two lies.

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#520334

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Two degrees of climate change may be too much

Or may be a good thing or may not matter at all in the overall
scheme of things, shit head.

Yet more off topic, arm waving, speculative cut and paste from the
spamming shit head.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#520349 — urban heat-islanding

it isn't gOOd, even though
it is probably almost all, u.h.i

> Or may be a good thing or may not matter at all in the overall
> scheme of things, shit head.
> 
> Yet more off topic, arm waving, speculative cut and paste from the
> spamming shit head.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

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#520520 — Re: urban heat-islanding

let us just say that
the effects are quite variable, but they are huge, big, and really big

> it isn't gOOd, even though
> it is probably almost all, u.h.i
> 
> > Or may be a good thing or may not matter at all in the overall

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#520337

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 9:01:48 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Two degrees of climate change may be too much
> > http://thebulletin.org/two-degrees-climate-change-may-be-too-much8731
> 
> 
> > Touring Alaska this week to shine a spotlight on global warming,
> > President Obama warned that "climate change is no longer some far-off
> > problem. It is happening here; it is happening now. Climate change is
> > already disrupting our agriculture and ecosystems, our water and food
> > supplies, our energy, our infrastructure, human health, human safety.
> > Now. Today."
> >
> > This wasn't supposed to happen. In 2009, 114 countries signed the
> > Copenhagen Accord, agreeing "to stabilize greenhouse gas
> > concentration in the atmosphere at a level that would prevent
> > dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system;"
> > "recognizing the scientific view" that the increase in global
> > temperature should be held to no more than 2 degrees Celsius" (3.6
> > degrees Fahrenheit) above the pre-industrial level; and promising
> > greater "long-term cooperative action to combat climate change."
> >
> > Paradoxically, an accord that should have spurred the world to
> > immediate action instead seemed to offer some breathing room. Two
> > degrees was meant to be a ceiling, but repeated references to an
> > internationally agreed-upon "threshold" led many people to believe
> > that nothing really bad could happen below 2 degrees--or worse yet,
> > that the number itself was negotiable. Perhaps the biggest failure of
> > the Copenhagen Accord was its pact for "long-term" action. Forty
> > years ago, climate change was a "long-term" problem. Today it's an
> > emergency.
> >
> > Today we're only about halfway to the 2-degree mark, yet the climate
> > is already haywire. Numbers such as 2 degrees and 350 parts per
> > million (or ppm, which many climate activists have identified as a
> > "safe" level for carbon dioxide in the atmosphere) have become
> > enshrined in the climate debate. Meanwhile, though, civilization's
> > industrial machinery marches on. We're already at 400 ppm of carbon
> > dioxide, and it looks like we will blow by 2 degrees, too.
> >
> > Such numbers may mean little to the general public, but they matter a
> > lot to negotiators who will be at Paris climate change talks in
> > December. Unfortunately, the numbers that these negotiators plan to
> > propose will only be part of non-legally-binding pledges--and they
> > represent only what is achievable without too much difficulty, rather
> > than the drastic austerity measures needed to stabilize emissions. In
> > fact, 2 degrees is not an upper limit that the nations of the world
> > recognize and respect, only a target that negotiators know they will
> > overshoot with their expected pledges. The very idea that the Paris
> > conference is a negotiation is ridiculous. You can't negotiate with
> > the atmosphere.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Just 1 degree is very bad. Warm blood animals store fat.Sperm whales might die if they can't adapt. TreBert

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