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| Started by | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-11-25 15:29 -0600 |
| Last post | 2015-11-25 23:38 -0600 |
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Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 15:29 -0600
Re: Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 13:32 -0800
Re: Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 15:36 -0600
Re: Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 13:38 -0800
Re: Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-25 23:46 +0000
Re: Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 15:22 -0800
Re: Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 18:16 -0600
Re: Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-25 23:38 -0600
| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 15:29 -0600 |
| Subject | Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change |
| Message-ID | <j-ednXJlho7RtcvLnZ2dnUU7-d8AAAAA@giganews.com> |
Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/without-government-the-marketplace-will-not-solve-climate-change/ > Unreasonable reliance on free markets > It has long been a maxim in American life that the government that > governs best governs least. It was expressed in the weakness of the > original Articles of Confederation, in the structure of the U.S. > Constitution (designed to prevent the concentration of power) and at > various times throughout U.S. history. In the 20th century it was an > important element in reactions against federal labor standards, rural > electrification and, especially, the New Deal, the spectacular > government intervention that followed the equally spectacular market > failure of the Great Depression. The deal empowered the federal > government with substantive oversight of business, industry, and > financial and labor markets. But the opponents of the New Deal never > denied the fact of the Depression. > > Opponents of an international treaty on climate change have allowed > their hostility to government not only to lead them to deny the facts > of climate change but also to spill over into conspiratorial > thinking. In a 1992 speech Dixy Lee Ray, a former governor of > Washington State and a former head of the U.S. Atomic Energy > Commission, insisted that the agenda of the United Nations Framework > Convention on Climate Change was to “bring about … world government > with central planning by the United Nations.” The flame she lit has > burned brightly ever since. In his 2012 book Senator James Inhofe of > Oklahoma accused climate scientists of being part of a liberal > conspiracy to dismantle global capitalism and compared the > Environmental Protection Agency to the Gestapo. > -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 13:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c2f1ea56-5591-4998-b0ab-60595114e806@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #535464 |
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:29:54 PM UTC-6, Sam Wormley wrote: > Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/without-government-the-marketplace-will-not-solve-climate-change/ > What do you mean "solve climate change"? If the climate wants to change, you gonna stop it? Oh, and what is it *supposed* to be?
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 15:36 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <j-ednW9lho5xtMvLnZ2dnUU7-d8AAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #535467 |
On 11/25/15 3:32 PM, Apollyon wrote: > On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:29:54 PM UTC-6, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change >>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/without-government-the-marketplace-will-not-solve-climate-change/ >> > What do you mean "solve climate change"? > If the climate wants to change, you gonna stop it? Oh, and what is it *supposed* to be? > DuckDuckGo is your friend. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 13:38 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <cca24bb0-7ca5-49b9-83ab-e966fcfcb6eb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #535469 |
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:36:48 PM UTC-6, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 11/25/15 3:32 PM, Apollyon wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:29:54 PM UTC-6, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change > >>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/without-government-the-marketplace-will-not-solve-climate-change/ > >> > > What do you mean "solve climate change"? > > If the climate wants to change, you gonna stop it? Oh, and what is it *supposed* to be? > > > > DuckDuckGo is your friend. > Are *you* DuckDuckGo? What do *you* mean by *solve climate change*. > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 23:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2rthic-5co.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #535470 |
Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:36:48 PM UTC-6, Sam Wormley wrote: >> On 11/25/15 3:32 PM, Apollyon wrote: >> > On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:29:54 PM UTC-6, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >> Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change >> >>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/without-government-the-marketplace-will-not-solve-climate-change/ >> >> >> > What do you mean "solve climate change"? >> > If the climate wants to change, you gonna stop it? Oh, and what is it *supposed* to be? >> > >> >> DuckDuckGo is your friend. >> > > Are *you* DuckDuckGo? What do *you* mean by *solve climate change*. He means destroy civilization as we know it and go back to living in caves heated by dung fires. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 15:22 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f1d32716-2c83-45c8-ab44-27bd9342e722@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #535464 |
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 1:29:54 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/without-government-the-marketplace-will-not-solve-climate-change/ Sam, Sam, Sam. I keep telling you; you want big business to Do Something, find a way to make it profitable. You appear to keep assuming it will always be costly. Think outside of your box. Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 18:16 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <A9OdnQ9uNZ7e0svLnZ2dnUU7-N0AAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #535486 |
On 11/25/15 5:22 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote: > On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 1:29:54 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change >>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/without-government-the-marketplace-will-not-solve-climate-change/ > > Sam, Sam, Sam. I keep telling you; you want big business to Do Something, find a way to make it profitable. You appear to keep assuming it will always be costly. Think outside of your box. > > > Mark L. Fergerson > Apple and Google are leading and so are building architects. Some progress in energy. We need some radical change in agriculture. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-25 23:38 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n365t6$jud$6@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #535464 |
On 11/25/2015 3:29 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > Without Government, the Marketplace Will Not Solve Climate Change Government can only tax people, misuse 70% of the money, and is packed full of dumbshit corrupt politicians
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