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Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy

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First post2015-12-13 20:37 -0600
Last post2015-12-14 03:26 +0000
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  Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 20:37 -0600
    Re: Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-13 21:28 -0600
      Re: Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 03:36 +0000
        Re: Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-14 13:21 -0600
          Re: Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 19:51 +0000
    Re: Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-14 03:26 +0000

#538965 — Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-13 20:37 -0600
SubjectSpain wants to retake lead in renewable energy
Message-ID<9rCdnUzucdz-tvPLnZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@giganews.com>
Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy
> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-spain-retake-renewable-energy.html

   Hardship

> "2015 marks the lowest point in the development of renewables in the
> past 20 years in Spain," said Spanish Wind Energy Association policy
> director Heikki Willstedt.
>
> "Spain must make up for lost time and fulfil its goals for 2020," she
> added.
>
> Willstedt recalled that Spain is committed to meeting 20 percent of
> its energy needs through renewables by 2020, compared to the current
> 15 percent.

   Hope


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#538985

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-13 21:28 -0600
Message-ID<n4ld1e$rkf$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#538965
On 12/13/2015 8:37 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-spain-retake-renewable-energy.html
>
>    Hardship
>
>> "2015 marks the lowest point in the development of renewables in the
>> past 20 years in Spain," said Spanish Wind Energy Association policy
>> director Heikki Willstedt.

>> "Spain must make up for lost time and fulfil its goals for 2020," she
>> added.
>>
>> Willstedt recalled that Spain is committed to meeting 20 percent of
>> its energy needs through renewables by 2020, compared to the current
>> 15 percent.
>
>    Hope
>


Hope that they get enough money to REPLACE all the "renewables" EVERY 30 
years ?

GOT IT ?  REPLACE EVERY 30 YEARS .

EVERY 30 YEARS, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE WINDMILLS, SOLAR PANELS, because 
they get worn, ineffective, corroded, etc.

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#538997

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-14 03:36 +0000
Message-ID<f2q1kc-ke8.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#538985
gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 12/13/2015 8:37 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy
>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-spain-retake-renewable-energy.html
>>
>>    Hardship
>>
>>> "2015 marks the lowest point in the development of renewables in the
>>> past 20 years in Spain," said Spanish Wind Energy Association policy
>>> director Heikki Willstedt.
> 
>>> "Spain must make up for lost time and fulfil its goals for 2020," she
>>> added.
>>>
>>> Willstedt recalled that Spain is committed to meeting 20 percent of
>>> its energy needs through renewables by 2020, compared to the current
>>> 15 percent.
>>
>>    Hope
>>
> 
> 
> Hope that they get enough money to REPLACE all the "renewables" EVERY 30 
> years ?
> 
> GOT IT ?  REPLACE EVERY 30 YEARS .
> 
> EVERY 30 YEARS, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE WINDMILLS, SOLAR PANELS, because 
> they get worn, ineffective, corroded, etc.

Nope; windmills don't last that long.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#539135

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-14 13:21 -0600
Message-ID<n4n4rd$mkh$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#538997
On 12/13/2015 9:36 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 12/13/2015 8:37 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy
>>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-spain-retake-renewable-energy.html
>>>
>>>     Hardship
>>>
>>>> "2015 marks the lowest point in the development of renewables in the
>>>> past 20 years in Spain," said Spanish Wind Energy Association policy
>>>> director Heikki Willstedt.
>>
>>>> "Spain must make up for lost time and fulfil its goals for 2020," she
>>>> added.
>>>>
>>>> Willstedt recalled that Spain is committed to meeting 20 percent of
>>>> its energy needs through renewables by 2020, compared to the current
>>>> 15 percent.
>>>
>>>     Hope
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hope that they get enough money to REPLACE all the "renewables" EVERY 30
>> years ?
>>
>> GOT IT ?  REPLACE EVERY 30 YEARS .
>>
>> EVERY 30 YEARS, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE WINDMILLS, SOLAR PANELS, because
>> they get worn, ineffective, corroded, etc.
>
> Nope; windmills don't last that long.
>
>

South Point Hawaii, big island, first major install of windmills, 1987 I 
think they only lasted 5 years.  Maintanance costs were huge

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/6350/Broken-promises-The-rusting-wind-turbines-of-Hawaii.aspx

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#539148

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-14 19:51 +0000
Message-ID<97j3kc-ege.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#539135
gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 12/13/2015 9:36 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/13/2015 8:37 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>> Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy
>>>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-spain-retake-renewable-energy.html
>>>>
>>>>     Hardship
>>>>
>>>>> "2015 marks the lowest point in the development of renewables in the
>>>>> past 20 years in Spain," said Spanish Wind Energy Association policy
>>>>> director Heikki Willstedt.
>>>
>>>>> "Spain must make up for lost time and fulfil its goals for 2020," she
>>>>> added.
>>>>>
>>>>> Willstedt recalled that Spain is committed to meeting 20 percent of
>>>>> its energy needs through renewables by 2020, compared to the current
>>>>> 15 percent.
>>>>
>>>>     Hope
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope that they get enough money to REPLACE all the "renewables" EVERY 30
>>> years ?
>>>
>>> GOT IT ?  REPLACE EVERY 30 YEARS .
>>>
>>> EVERY 30 YEARS, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE WINDMILLS, SOLAR PANELS, because
>>> they get worn, ineffective, corroded, etc.
>>
>> Nope; windmills don't last that long.
>>
>>
> 
> South Point Hawaii, big island, first major install of windmills, 1987 I 
> think they only lasted 5 years.  Maintanance costs were huge
> 
> http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/6350/Broken-promises-The-rusting-wind-turbines-of-Hawaii.aspx

Moving parts, high winds, and a corrosive environment, what else would
one expect?

But the good (?) news is that Hawaii now has so much solar crap the
grid is in danger of becoming unstable.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#538990

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-14 03:26 +0000
Message-ID<2hp1kc-ke8.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#538965
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Spain wants to retake lead in renewable energy
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-spain-retake-renewable-energy.html
> 
>   Hardship
> 
>> "2015 marks the lowest point in the development of renewables in the
>> past 20 years in Spain," said Spanish Wind Energy Association policy
>> director Heikki Willstedt.
>>
>> "Spain must make up for lost time and fulfil its goals for 2020," she
>> added.
>>
>> Willstedt recalled that Spain is committed to meeting 20 percent of
>> its energy needs through renewables by 2020, compared to the current
>> 15 percent.
> 
>   Hope
 
Spain already has a huge solar project going bankrupt that will cost
US taxpayers many millions of dollars.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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