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| First post | 2016-10-10 21:29 -0400 |
| Last post | 2016-10-18 11:15 -0400 |
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A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-10-10 21:29 -0400
A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 18:49 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 08:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 14:57 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 10:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 18:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 19:05 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:37 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2016-10-11 22:56 +0300
the static eventuality noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 09:55 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 10:13 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 18:56 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:44 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 21:46 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-11 19:46 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 12:59 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-11 19:10 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 19:19 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-11 20:51 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 20:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:58 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:42 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:03 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:40 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:20 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:26 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 19:05 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:13 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 13:36 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 11:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 12:40 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:53 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:36 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 18:54 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:49 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:10 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:07 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:39 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-16 22:13 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:27 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:46 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 08:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-18 17:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 21:44 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 07:14 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 08:23 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:10 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 23:48 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:09 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 18:03 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:14 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 17:52 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:28 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:10 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:44 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:25 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 18:29 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:17 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 20:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 05:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 05:51 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 14:03 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 23:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:30 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 10:01 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:45 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 20:49 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 05:28 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 23:45 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:48 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 10:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 07:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 09:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 16:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-19 19:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 19:27 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 18:57 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:08 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 12:15 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 02:37 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 21:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:11 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:17 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 23:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:52 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:16 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:05 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:43 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:22 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 19:20 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 11:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:47 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:48 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-12 01:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:53 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-12 19:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 16:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:06 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 06:26 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:01 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:14 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 18:07 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:35 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 23:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 18:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 07:12 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 06:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 17:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 23:47 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:31 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 12:16 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-10-17 13:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:24 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:58 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 02:36 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 21:01 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:56 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 14:12 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:49 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:06 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:08 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 11:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:42 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-12 00:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:59 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 07:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 14:14 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:52 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:13 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 20:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 08:05 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-13 09:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:06 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-13 21:26 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 02:51 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:01 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 07:25 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 07:29 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 10:20 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:30 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 14:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 18:57 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:08 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:57 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:16 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:11 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:53 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:04 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:18 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:23 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 15:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:30 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 00:00 +0000
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 05:28 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-17 07:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 18:13 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:53 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 06:47 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 16:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 18:09 -0700
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 20:58 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 07:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 18:03 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:52 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:01 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 09:51 -0700
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 08:06 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:54 +0000
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:11 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 21:40 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 02:57 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:30 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:14 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 19:11 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 23:28 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 19:59 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 02:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 04:07 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 08:29 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 18:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 16:54 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:14 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 12:19 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:15 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 07:37 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:45 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:17 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 07:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:17 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 18:36 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 18:48 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 08:42 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:19 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-10-17 13:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:42 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:16 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 08:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 10:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 09:47 -0500
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:20 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 08:56 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-15 16:17 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-15 20:00 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:39 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 09:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 18:24 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 08:57 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 12:46 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:56 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:41 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 21:18 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 07:53 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 13:28 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:17 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:40 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:21 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 21:09 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 23:04 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:47 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 09:03 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:29 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:25 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-10-16 18:36 +0100
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-14 20:08 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 04:00 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 09:20 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:34 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 20:42 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 21:23 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 09:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 09:37 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 02:04 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 07:44 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 02:00 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 07:42 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:14 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:27 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:28 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:26 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:34 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:25 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-10-15 19:28 +0200
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 18:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:22 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 18:21 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 18:38 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:17 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 09:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 13:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 18:38 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 20:28 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-18 00:58 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 08:12 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-18 17:24 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:38 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:32 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 13:43 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 16:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 19:00 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 18:48 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-11 13:34 -0700
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:15 -0400
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-18 10:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nu5drl$jgi$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #601452 |
On 10/18/2016 7:48 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > In article <nu0lip$1981$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >> >> On 10/16/2016 8:25 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>> In article <a8j7dd-voh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>> says... >> >>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>>>> In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>> says... >>>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>> In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>> >>>>> return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere >>>>> and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep >>>>> leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport >>>>> ships. >>>> >>>> Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however >>>> that is not going to be cheap. >>> >>> Well, we've moved from "not possible" to "possible but not cheap". >>> Progress! >> >> liar. YOU have not shown, nor demonstrated, that it is possible. >> Try again, this time hire some intelligent people to help you, and lead >> you. >> >> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/hillary_screaming.jpg > > You really are proving to be an annoying little troll, unwilling to even > look at the evidence (including cites) provided. > > Jeff > isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh] She has already re-purposed the funding for the "US Occupation of Planet Mars" to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne Room, and barracks for the subservient.
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-19 07:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.32711fc8b804dd0b989851@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #601470 |
In article <nu5drl$jgi$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > On 10/18/2016 7:48 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > > In article <nu0lip$1981$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > >> > >> On 10/16/2016 8:25 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > >>> In article <a8j7dd-voh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>> says... > >> > >>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>> In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>>>>>> says... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <snip> > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>> return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere > >>>>> and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep > >>>>> leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport > >>>>> ships. > >>>> > >>>> Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however > >>>> that is not going to be cheap. > >>> > >>> Well, we've moved from "not possible" to "possible but not cheap". > >>> Progress! > >> > >> liar. YOU have not shown, nor demonstrated, that it is possible. > > >> Try again, this time hire some intelligent people to help you, and lead > >> you. > >> > >> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/hillary_screaming.jpg > > > > You really are proving to be an annoying little troll, unwilling to even > > look at the evidence (including cites) provided. > > > > Jeff > > > > isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh] > > She has already re-purposed the funding for the > "US Occupation of Planet Mars" > to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne You really are being a ass aren't you? Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-19 09:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #601638 |
>> isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh] >> >> She has already re-purposed the funding for the >> "US Occupation of Planet Mars" >> to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne > > You really are being a ass aren't you? > > Jeff > well you're abrasive asshole, it is what you do, but that is expected as you have little scientific/engineering facts to contribute. your "Occupy Mars" idiocy is in with the Smoke-um Dope-um crowd. and moronic "Lets build a STEEL PLANT on Mars" try building one in the USA first, extremly hard to do because of all the regulations, and now you want to go pollute a entire pristeen planet ? Space Elevator too ?
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-19 16:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3271a1c61d389432989854@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #601647 |
In article <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > >> isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh] > >> > >> She has already re-purposed the funding for the > >> "US Occupation of Planet Mars" > >> to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne > > > > You really are being a ass aren't you? > > > > Jeff > > > > well you're abrasive asshole, it is what you do, but that is expected as > you have little scientific/engineering facts to contribute. LOL, you mean like the cites provided that you've largely ignored? > your "Occupy Mars" idiocy is in with the Smoke-um Dope-um crowd. Wrong crowd. I have an aerospace engineering degree and don't tend to hang out with the "Smoke-um Dope-um crowd". More like the hang out with other engineers at lunch on Friday and have one beer. > and moronic "Lets build a STEEL PLANT on Mars" That wasn't me, but there is nothing fundamental which prevents doing such a thing. > try building one in the USA first, extremly hard to do because of all > the regulations, Mars is going to have the same regulations then? > and now you want to go pollute a entire pristeen planet ? Who said anything about releasing waste from the process to pollute the planet? > Space Elevator too ? Once the materials are good enough and can be produced economically in the quantities needed, why hell not? In the long run it would be a lot better than chemical propulsion. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-19 19:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nu9060$h3p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #601702 |
On Oct/19/2016 at 4:29 PM, Jeff Findley wrote : > In article <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >> Space Elevator too ? > > Once the materials are good enough and can be produced economically in > the quantities needed, why hell not? In the long run it would be a lot > better than chemical propulsion. If you are talking about a space elevator for Mars, materials are not really a problem. Mars' lower gravity means existing materials should do. Phobos is more of a problem. Not a show stopper, an elevator anchored away from the equator could be done. Still Phobos is very inconvenient. The real reason why we aren't developing a Mars space elevator is that the traffic between Mars and space isn't high enough to warrant the investment. Alain Fournier
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-19 19:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nu932l$b58$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #601702 |
On 10/19/2016 3:29 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: > In article <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > Wrong crowd. I have an aerospace engineering degree and don't tend to > hang out with the "Smoke-um Dope-um crowd". More like the hang out with > other engineers at lunch on Friday and have one beer. Excellent! > >> and moronic "Lets build a STEEL PLANT on Mars" > > That wasn't me, but there is nothing fundamental which prevents doing > such a thing. > >> try building one in the USA first, extremly hard to do because of all >> the regulations, > > Mars is going to have the same regulations then? most likely run from Brussels now, they set the laws for EU rest of the world. NASA has its own process for building and launching rockets tracking materials, Im sure is flowed down to SpaceX and others. (I was on a few projects that went on Missiles) > >> and now you want to go pollute a entire pristeen planet ? > > Who said anything about releasing waste from the process to pollute the > planet? the greenies will, they wont let Mars turn into a 3rd world planet, perhaps it already is, un-inhabitable. the Steel Foundry and Mill will have to be enclosed, air tight. > >> Space Elevator too ? > > Once the materials are good enough and can be produced economically in > the quantities needed, why hell not? In the long run it would be a lot > better than chemical propulsion. > > Jeff electrical? need rails to take the current. The "Space Elevator" has been replaced by the "Space Rubber band" just by growing a few rubber trees on Mars, we can build a very very large rubber band...
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-19 18:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <go8g0cpq6030lph930a0jnk9f4fo3ib88q@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #601702 |
Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
>In article <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>>
>> >> isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh]
>> >>
>> >> She has already re-purposed the funding for the
>> >> "US Occupation of Planet Mars"
>> >> to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne
>> >
>> > You really are being a ass aren't you?
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>>
>> well you're abrasive asshole, it is what you do, but that is expected as
>> you have little scientific/engineering facts to contribute.
>
>LOL, you mean like the cites provided that you've largely ignored?
>
Well, he doesn't like the issues clouded with facts.
>
>> your "Occupy Mars" idiocy is in with the Smoke-um Dope-um crowd.
>
>Wrong crowd. I have an aerospace engineering degree and don't tend to
>hang out with the "Smoke-um Dope-um crowd". More like the hang out with
>other engineers at lunch on Friday and have one beer.
>
Yeah. I really don't know who this idiot thinks he's talking to or
just what his own background is, but I'm betting he's still living in
Mom's basement.
I made a pretty good living as an engineer for over 30 years, so this
moron's opinion is merely mildly humorous.
>
>> and moronic "Lets build a STEEL PLANT on Mars"
>
>That wasn't me, but there is nothing fundamental which prevents doing
>such a thing.
>
And AT SOME POINT you're going to want to do that and many other
things.
>
>> try building one in the USA first, extremly hard to do because of all
>> the regulations,
>
>Mars is going to have the same regulations then?
>
>> and now you want to go pollute a entire pristeen planet ?
>
>Who said anything about releasing waste from the process to pollute the
>planet?
>
And who cares if we do? This guy really does belong in the basement
of his Mom's cave gnawing on bushes.
>
>> Space Elevator too ?
>
>Once the materials are good enough and can be produced economically in
>the quantities needed, why hell not? In the long run it would be a lot
>better than chemical propulsion.
>
Space elevators make great thought experiments, but they're unlikely
to happen for a long, long time (if ever).
--
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-13 08:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3269434337dfea8a989834@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #600507 |
In article <ntk4sd$ha1$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > On 10/11/2016 7:51 PM, Alain Fournier wrote: > > On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : > >> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: > >>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > > >>> > >>>> no food, no water, no air. > >>> > >>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) > >> > >> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. > > > > Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. > > but very little of it. Bullshit. Mars is a huge place. I suggest you look again at the research. No, there aren't oceans on Mars, but there is still *a lot* of water in absolute terms. > > > >>> and again a CO2 > >>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. > >> > >> all moisture would leave the plant. > >> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. > >> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. > > > > You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. > > > > the greenhouse would be the equivelent of a large tank and the light > would be dim due to outside dust. If this is a problem, just use "grow" lights. This is commonly used in hydroponics when the sun isn't shining brightly. > What atmosphere would you use ? > > you take up N2, must have that for breathing anyway. Sure, you might need some N2 for plants that "fix" N2 from the air, but I would think that nitrogen fertilizer would suffice (anhydrous ammonia is typically used on fields here in the Midwest for this purpose). There *is* nitrogen on Mars. Cite: March 24, 2015 NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Biologically Useful Nitrogen on Mars http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mars-nitrogen > Plants cannot live on CO2 alone. They get their bulk from more solid > substances like water and organic matter. This organic matter comes from > decomposing plants and animals or from man made fertilizers. And from animals (i.e. colonists) as solid waste. Again, here in the Midwest, manure from farm animals is commonly spread on fields as fertilizer. > Too high a concentration of CO2 causes a reduction of photosynthesis in > certain of plants. There is also evidence from the past of major damage > to a wide variety of plants species from a sudden rise in CO2 (See > illustrations below). Higher concentrations of CO2 also reduce the > nutritional quality of some staples, such as wheat. Again, there would be oxygen and nitrogen. Both are present on Mars. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-14 12:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntr3ra$1m36$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600684 |
On 10/13/2016 7:08 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > In article <ntk4sd$ha1$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >> >> On 10/11/2016 7:51 PM, Alain Fournier wrote: >>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >>> >>>>> >>>>>> no food, no water, no air. >>>>> >>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >>>> >>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. >>> >>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. >> >> but very little of it. > > Bullshit. Mars is a huge place. I suggest you look again at the > research. No, there aren't oceans on Mars, but there is still *a lot* > of water in absolute terms. > >>> >>>>> and again a CO2 >>>>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >>>> >>>> all moisture would leave the plant. >>>> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >>>> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. >>> >>> You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. >>> >> >> the greenhouse would be the equivelent of a large tank and the light >> would be dim due to outside dust. > > If this is a problem, just use "grow" lights. This is commonly used in > hydroponics when the sun isn't shining brightly. > >> What atmosphere would you use ? >> >> you take up N2, must have that for breathing anyway. > > Sure, you might need some N2 for plants that "fix" N2 from the air, but > I would think that nitrogen fertilizer would suffice (anhydrous ammonia > is typically used on fields here in the Midwest for this purpose). > > There *is* nitrogen on Mars. Cite: > > March 24, 2015 > NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Biologically Useful Nitrogen on Mars > http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mars-nitrogen if you read it, it says they detected nitric acid they detected came from either lighting strikes or metor hits, which means there is little to no nitric acid for use. not in useful quantities > >> Plants cannot live on CO2 alone. They get their bulk from more solid >> substances like water and organic matter. This organic matter comes from >> decomposing plants and animals or from man made fertilizers. > > And from animals (i.e. colonists) as solid waste. Again, here in the > Midwest, manure from farm animals is commonly spread on fields as > fertilizer. ship cow poop to Mars, instead of food. > >> Too high a concentration of CO2 causes a reduction of photosynthesis in >> certain of plants. There is also evidence from the past of major damage >> to a wide variety of plants species from a sudden rise in CO2 (See >> illustrations below). Higher concentrations of CO2 also reduce the >> nutritional quality of some staples, such as wheat. > > Again, there would be oxygen and nitrogen. Both are present on Mars. you would have to build a fertilizer plant up there. > > Jeff > amazing the amount of articals out with misleading information. but wait, the Mars movie by National Geographic is coming out soon, why feed the starving on Earth, when we can ship them to Mars ?
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 02:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <29k0dd-vco.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #600503 |
In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: > On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > >>> >>>> no food, no water, no air. >>> >>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >> >> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. > > Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. > >>> and again a CO2 >>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >> >> all moisture would leave the plant. >> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. > > You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-11 21:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rddrvbl7srjpn1mldti0mictcgrq6nl9ov@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600517 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote :
>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote:
>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>>
>>>>
>>>>> no food, no water, no air.
>>>>
>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions)
>>>
>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable.
>>
>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture.
>>
>>>> and again a CO2
>>>> atmosphere. Food could be grown.
>>>
>>> all moisture would leave the plant.
>>> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants.
>>> Radiation will kill it off in a few years.
>>
>> You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done.
>
>Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done.
>
Just because you're lazy and against manned space flight doesn't mean
it shouldn't be done.
--
"Then tomorrow we may all be dead. But how is that different
from every other day?"
-- Morpheus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <f0u0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #600531 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: >>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >>> >>>>> >>>>>> no food, no water, no air. >>>>> >>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >>>> >>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. >>> >>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. >>> >>>>> and again a CO2 >>>>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >>>> >>>> all moisture would leave the plant. >>>> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >>>> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. >>> >>> You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. >> >>Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done. >> > > Just because you're lazy and against manned space flight doesn't mean > it shouldn't be done. Still a troll ass hole, I see. plonk again as it must have expired. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 13:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <v46tvbhkmg0227462qps24gafuamd9fvvm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600548 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>>In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >>>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> no food, no water, no air. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >>>>> >>>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. >>>> >>>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. >>>> >>>>>> and again a CO2 >>>>>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >>>>> >>>>> all moisture would leave the plant. >>>>> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >>>>> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. >>>> >>>> You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. >>> >>>Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done. >>> >> >> Just because you're lazy and against manned space flight doesn't mean >> it shouldn't be done. > >Still a troll ass hole, I see. > Now step away from the mirror. > >plonk again as it must have expired. > Better yet, just stop crossposting, asshole. -- You are What you do When it counts.
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-13 08:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.32694558b2fdd52a989838@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #600517 |
In article <29k0dd-vco.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com says... > > In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: > > On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : > >> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: > >>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > > >>> > >>>> no food, no water, no air. > >>> > >>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) > >> > >> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. > > > > Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. > > > >>> and again a CO2 > >>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. > >> > >> all moisture would leave the plant. > >> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. > >> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. > > > > You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. > > Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done. > You mean like growing tomatoes in greenhouses in Canada instead of growing them in open fields in a more temperate climate? Go look up how much of the US tomato market is supplied by Canadian greenhouses, especially in the winter. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-13 23:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jej5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #600688 |
In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > In article <29k0dd-vco.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > says... >> >> In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: >> > On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >> >> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >> >>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >> > >> >>> >> >>>> no food, no water, no air. >> >>> >> >>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >> >> >> >> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. >> > >> > Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. >> > >> >>> and again a CO2 >> >>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >> >> >> >> all moisture would leave the plant. >> >> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >> >> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. >> > >> > You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. >> >> Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done. >> > > You mean like growing tomatoes in greenhouses in Canada instead of > growing them in open fields in a more temperate climate? Nope. If you are going have food on Mars you would have to have pressurized, sealed, and lighted greenhouses. The Cold War is over so there is no point in doing something that has no other point than our dicks are bigger than Russian dicks, which was the point of the Apollo program. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-14 10:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lp620cpbu7c6ifk27394b5r9an2kn80trv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600794 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
>> In article <29k0dd-vco.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>> > On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote :
>>> >> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote:
>>> >>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> no food, no water, no air.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions)
>>> >>
>>> >> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable.
>>> >
>>> > Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture.
>>> >
>>> >>> and again a CO2
>>> >>> atmosphere. Food could be grown.
>>> >>
>>> >> all moisture would leave the plant.
>>> >> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants.
>>> >> Radiation will kill it off in a few years.
>>> >
>>> > You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done.
>>>
>>> Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done.
>>>
>>
>> You mean like growing tomatoes in greenhouses in Canada instead of
>> growing them in open fields in a more temperate climate?
>
>Nope.
>
>If you are going have food on Mars you would have to have pressurized,
>sealed, and lighted greenhouses.
>
>The Cold War is over so there is no point in doing something that has
>no other point than our dicks are bigger than Russian dicks, which
>was the point of the Apollo program.
>
So no reason to waste all that money on toasters, then. No Buck
Rogers, no bucks, bucko.
--
"Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute."
-- Charles Pinckney
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-14 13:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntr6t7$1qus$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600861 |
On 10/14/2016 12:52 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>> In article <29k0dd-vco.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>> says... >>>> >>>> In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >>>>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>>>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> no food, no water, no air. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >>>>>> >>>>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. >>>>> >>>>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. >>>>> >>>>>>> and again a CO2 >>>>>>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >>>>>> all moisture would leave the plant. >>>>>> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >>>>>> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. >>>>> >>>>> You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. >>>> >>>> Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done. >>> >>> You mean like growing tomatoes in greenhouses in Canada instead of >>> growing them in open fields in a more temperate climate? >> >> Nope. >> >> If you are going have food on Mars you would have to have pressurized, >> sealed, and lighted greenhouses. >> >> The Cold War is over so there is no point in doing something that has >> no other point than our dicks are bigger than Russian dicks, which >> was the point of the Apollo program. >> > > So no reason to waste all that money on toasters, then. No Buck > Rogers, no bucks, bucko. > > but Hollywood can make FILMS ! show Musk and friends inside his burried rocket ship on Mars trying to get the internet from Earth, all on poop buckets to generate methane. Obama too! throw him in there, he wants to lead the USA to mars, he can be the first to go w Musk(rat), Trump too! He wants to be BIG on MARS. and take Hiellary !! and her evil husband that sex monster Bill.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-11 20:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ckcrvbdhmc1lnb2pqmu5gqtphbs480uu12@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600503 |
Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote :
>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote:
>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>
>>>
>>>> no food, no water, no air.
>>>
>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions)
>>
>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable.
>
>Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture.
>
It's not conjecture. It's a fact. Water has been detected and in
other places than the poles.
--
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 08:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntlf3b$hhe$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600527 |
On 10/11/2016 10:50 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: > >> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >> >>>> >>>>> no food, no water, no air. >>>> >>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >>> >>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. >> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. >> > > It's not conjecture. It's a fact. Water has been detected and in > other places than the poles. > > NASA says it is conjecture. Go read the orgional reports and studies. you can not provide any URLS to support your assertions.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 13:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <m76tvblcihtnmrs6hpa40rvf0u06or40lt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600568 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/11/2016 10:50 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote :
>>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote:
>>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> no food, no water, no air.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions)
>>>>
>>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable.
>
>>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture.
>>>
>>
>> It's not conjecture. It's a fact. Water has been detected and in
>> other places than the poles.
>>
>
>NASA says it is conjecture.
>
Read something newer than half a century old.
>
>Go read the orgional reports and studies.
>
Go read something current. FLOWING SURFACE WATER is 'conjecture'. The
presence of large quantities of water as ices and frozen brines is
FACT.
>
>you can not provide any URLS to support your assertions.
>
I certainly can't list all the hits googling "water Mars" produces.
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truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
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