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Are there electrons that are different?

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  Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <dwuih2ht@djh3jg3ugh08.org> - 2015-08-22 20:28 +0000
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 20:34 +0000
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 20:41 +0000
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 21:16 -0500
          Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:23 +0000
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:29 +0200
              Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:31 +0000
                Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:37 +0200
              Re: Are there electrons that are different? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-24 11:17 -0400
                Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 20:46 +0200
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-22 20:44 +0000
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 20:54 +0000
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:11 -0500
          Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:22 +0000
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:29 -0500
              Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:33 +0000
                Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:35 -0500
                  Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:38 +0000
                    Re: Are there electrons that are different? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 17:00 -0700
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 07:11 -0400
          Re: Are there electrons that are different? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 23:54 -0400
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-22 23:41 +0000
          Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:28 +0000
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:17 +0200
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:25 +0000
              Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:40 +0000
                Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:51 +0200
                Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 17:03 +0000
                  Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:50 +0000
                    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:07 -0500
                      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 19:10 +0000
                    Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 19:24 +0000
                      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 19:59 +0000
                        Re: Are there electrons that are different? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:12 -0700
                          Re: Are there electrons that are different? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:14 -0700
                            Re: Are there electrons that are different? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-26 10:51 -0700
                        Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 20:35 +0000
                          Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 15:54 +0000
                            Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 16:45 +0000
                              Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 19:08 +0000
                                Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 20:18 +0000
                                  Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 20:46 +0000
                                    Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 21:10 +0000
                                      Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 21:53 +0000
                                        Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 21:58 +0000
                                          Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 23:45 +0000
                                        Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 23:43 +0000
                          Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 16:13 +0000
                            Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-26 02:20 +0200
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-22 20:55 +0000
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:02 +0000
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:08 -0500
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:11 +0000
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:13 -0500
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-22 23:43 +0000
          Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:43 +0000
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:29 +0000
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-23 01:54 +0200
          Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:47 +0000
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 17:35 +0200
              Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 15:51 +0000
                Re: Are there electrons that are different? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:05 -0700
                  Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:15 +0000
                    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:20 -0700
                      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:56 +0000
                Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:08 +0200
                  Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:30 +0000
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 23:15 +0200
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:24 +0000
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-23 06:44 +0200
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 09:55 +0200
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 11:18 +0200
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-22 21:24 +0000
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:27 +0000
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-23 01:40 +0200
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-08-23 17:06 +1000
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:53 +0000
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:55 +0000
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 19:27 +0200
          Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:44 +0000
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 19:25 +0000
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-24 16:18 -0400
              Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 20:40 +0000
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 22:20 +0200
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 12:53 -0400
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:54 +0000
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 16:53 -0700
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 06:23 -0400
    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:11 -0500
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:18 +0000
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 17:24 +0200
          Re: Are there electrons that are different? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:40 -0500
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 17:55 +0200
              Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:18 +0000
                Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:32 +0200
                  Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:33 +0000
                    Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 21:59 +0200
                      Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 20:06 +0000
                        Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 22:06 +0200
      Re: Are there electrons that are different? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 12:02 -0400
        Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:09 +0000
          Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:16 +0200
            Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:37 +0000
              Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:50 +0200
                Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:46 +0000
                  Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 21:52 +0200
                    Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 20:03 +0000
                      Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 22:04 +0200
                        Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 20:21 +0000
                          Re: Are there electrons that are different? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:14 -0700
              Re: Are there electrons that are different? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-24 13:48 -0400

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From	James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org>
Date	2015-08-24 16:09 +0000
Message-ID	<mrffj2$m0d$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#516478

*/HVAC/* wrote:

>> Walking barefoot does work muscles that you don't normally work,
>> including core muscles in the pelvis and midsection. This is always
>> good for health.
> 
> I am always barefoot at home. I see no reason to wear footgear here.
> Plus it's way more comfortable.

I'm not interested hvac, it was about the ground electrons only. You have 
no free ground electrons in your home. You are not covered by the 
phenomenon.

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#516489

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date	2015-08-24 18:16 +0200
Message-ID	<84735539.bUzEQlsiKq@PointedEars.de>
In reply to	#516483

"James Birdy" amok-crossposted:

> */HVAC/* wrote:
>>> Walking barefoot does work muscles that you don't normally work,
>>> including core muscles in the pelvis and midsection. This is always
>>> good for health.
>> I am always barefoot at home. I see no reason to wear footgear here.
>> Plus it's way more comfortable.
> 
> I'm not interested hvac, it was about the ground electrons only. You have
> no free ground electrons in your home.

Most certainly he has.  One does not need to see his home for that, as 
*everyone* has.  That is what you (pretend to) do not understand.


PointedEars
-- 
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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#516499

From	James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org>
Date	2015-08-24 16:37 +0000
Message-ID	<mrfh7i$rgq$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#516489

*/Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:

>> I'm not interested hvac, it was about the ground electrons only. You
>> have no free ground electrons in your home.
> 
> Most certainly he has.  One does not need to see his home for that, as
> *everyone* has.  That is what you (pretend to) do not understand.

So he has no many-layered surfaces as ceramics, wood, bamboo, or plastic 
as his floor? What do you have?

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#516513

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date	2015-08-24 18:50 +0200
Message-ID	<62631801.jaXzBYMskN@PointedEars.de>
In reply to	#516499

James Birdy wrote:

> */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:
>>> I'm not interested hvac, it was about the ground electrons only. You
>>> have no free ground electrons in your home.
>> Most certainly he has.  One does not need to see his home for that, as
>> *everyone* has.  That is what you (pretend to) do not understand.
> 
> So he has no many-layered surfaces as ceramics, wood, bamboo, or plastic
> as his floor?

I do not know.  It does not matter.

> What do you have?

Irrelevant.


PointedEars
-- 
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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#516560

From	James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org>
Date	2015-08-24 18:46 +0000
Message-ID	<mrfopr$f63$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#516513

*/Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:

> James Birdy wrote:
> 
>> */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:
>>>> I'm not interested hvac, it was about the ground electrons only. You
>>>> have no free ground electrons in your home.
>>> Most certainly he has.  One does not need to see his home for that, as
>>> *everyone* has.  That is what you (pretend to) do not understand.
>> 
>> So he has no many-layered surfaces as ceramics, wood, bamboo, or
>> plastic as his floor?
> 
> I do not know.  It does not matter.

Of course it does, known to be good insulators. You must be unemployable.

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#516581

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date	2015-08-24 21:52 +0200
Message-ID	<5835960.gyJib1m8to@PointedEars.de>
In reply to	#516560

The ’nym-shifting troll amok-crossposted as "James Birdy":

> */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:
>> James Birdy wrote:
>>> */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:
>>>>> I'm not interested hvac, it was about the ground electrons only. You
>>>>> have no free ground electrons in your home.
>>>> Most certainly he has.  One does not need to see his home for that, as
>>>> *everyone* has.  That is what you (pretend to) do not understand.
>>> 
>>> So he has no many-layered surfaces as ceramics, wood, bamboo, or
>>> plastic as his floor?
>> 
>> I do not know.  It does not matter.
> 
> Of course it does, known to be good insulators.

You are moving the goalpost.  That was not what you claimed before.

Anyhow: It does not matter if there are many layers in the surface for 
static electricity to occur.  It also does not matter if the ground material 
is a good insulator for static electricity to occur.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatics#Electrostatic_generators>

> You must be unemployable.

You must be an idiot.  Oh wait.

Will you at least *please* stop that mindbogglingly stupid
amok-crossposting.

PointedEars
-- 
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)<

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#516583

From	James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org>
Date	2015-08-24 20:03 +0000
Message-ID	<mrft9s$r59$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#516581

*/Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:

> Anyhow: It does not matter if there are many layers in the surface for
> static electricity to occur.  It also does not matter if the ground
> material is a good insulator for static electricity to occur.

It was about the electrical balance during walking barefooted, Sir. Can't 
you bleep read?

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#516586

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date	2015-08-24 22:04 +0200
Message-ID	<27705090.PKKrmziIOz@PointedEars.de>
In reply to	#516583

Someone calling themselves "James Birdy" now trolled:

> */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:
>> Anyhow: It does not matter if there are many layers in the surface for
>> static electricity to occur.  It also does not matter if the ground
>> material is a good insulator for static electricity to occur.
> 
> It was about the electrical balance during walking barefooted, Sir.

You are not paying attention.  The *imbalance* of electric charge is what 
causes static electricity, which is the subject of discussion since quite a 
while (since Sam Wormley mentioned it, to which you replied).

> Can't you bleep read?

Can’t you?

PointedEars
-- 
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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#516592

From	James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org>
Date	2015-08-24 20:21 +0000
Message-ID	<mrfucf$ufi$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#516586

*/Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:

> Someone calling themselves "James Birdy" now trolled:
> 
>> */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:
>>> Anyhow: It does not matter if there are many layers in the surface for
>>> static electricity to occur.  It also does not matter if the ground
>>> material is a good insulator for static electricity to occur.
>> 
>> It was about the electrical balance during walking barefooted, Sir.
> 
> You are not paying attention.  The *imbalance* of electric charge is
> what causes static electricity, which is the subject of discussion since
> quite a while (since Sam Wormley mentioned it, to which you replied).

Then you don't have to persist in your or his unemployability, sir. 
Touching a sheep will not force the electrons flowing from ground through 
your fat feet wearing shoes. Will it?

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#516812

From	noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date	2015-08-25 10:14 -0700
Message-ID	<e6b2a5a3-f85e-4396-8e87-c42ce2a92144@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#516592

walking barefoot is quite beneficial,
if the ground has little rocks on it & so forth;
please, don't rub the sheep(s

> Touching a sheep will not force the electrons flowing from ground through 
> your fat feet wearing shoes. Will it?

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#516538

From	kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com>
Date	2015-08-24 13:48 -0400
Message-ID	<5llmtalljcpscukrpkqsiseknskm7j2dgk@4ax.com>
In reply to	#516499

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:37:06 +0000 (UTC), James Birdy
<jamesb@barefootwalking.org> wrote:

>*/Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:
>
>>> I'm not interested hvac, it was about the ground electrons only. You
>>> have no free ground electrons in your home.
>> 
>> Most certainly he has.  One does not need to see his home for that, as
>> *everyone* has.  That is what you (pretend to) do not understand.
>
>So he has no many-layered surfaces as ceramics, wood, bamboo, or plastic 
>as his floor? What do you have?

       Put your shoes on, you are walking;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t3cBTb3xPc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk5pkfXgwDo

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