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Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars.

Started by"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com>
First post2017-07-03 08:31 -0400
Last post2017-07-26 14:08 -0400
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  Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-03 08:31 -0400
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-07-03 09:04 -0400
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 06:31 -0700
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-03 08:37 -0500
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-06 15:21 -0400
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 13:14 -0700
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 08:00 -0700
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-07 15:34 -0400
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 14:03 -0700
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-07 17:22 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 15:19 -0700
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 17:01 -0700
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-09 12:49 -0400
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-09 23:26 -0500
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 20:04 -0500
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 07:32 -0700
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-10 12:21 -0500
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-10 17:35 +0000
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-10 16:10 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-10 17:40 -0400
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-10 17:22 -0500
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-10 19:49 -0400
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2017-07-13 20:17 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-13 21:42 +0000
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-13 20:53 -0400
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 02:05 +0000
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:25 -0700
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 17:04 +0000
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-03 14:04 -0400
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 18:28 +0000
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-03 16:14 -0400
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 20:57 +0000
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 16:14 -0700
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 00:45 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 20:11 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 04:55 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 02:29 -0700
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 06:49 +0100
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:02 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-07-04 22:59 -0400
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 04:51 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-04 21:33 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 07:16 +0100
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 16:47 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 11:08 -0700
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-05 21:02 -0400
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 19:12 -0700
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-05 22:16 -0400
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 23:30 -0700
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:35 +0100
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 10:05 -0700
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:20 -0400
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-07 08:03 -0500
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:19 -0400
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-06 13:09 -0500
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 23:05 -0700
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 10:52 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 18:07 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-05 14:21 -0500
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 19:34 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 15:32 -0700
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 23:00 +0000
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 10:12 -0700
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-06 13:15 -0500
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 06:20 -0700
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-07 09:39 -0500
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 08:11 -0700
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-07 14:13 -0500
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 20:04 +0000
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-04 20:08 -0600
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-04 09:11 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-07-04 11:47 -0400
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:19 +0000
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-07-04 23:04 -0400
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 04:56 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 23:16 -0700
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:12 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 07:20 +0100
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 16:54 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-05 18:42 -0400
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 23:07 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:30 +0100
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-06 06:35 -0400
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 16:34 +0000
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:25 -0400
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-07 04:56 +0000
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 02:09 -0700
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-07 20:18 -0400
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 06:19 +0100
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-07 17:13 +0000
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 06:49 +0100
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-08 17:13 +0000
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 07:12 +0100
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-09 17:44 +0000
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 12:48 -0700
                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-09 23:27 -0500
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 07:11 +0100
                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-10 16:30 +0000
                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 06:49 +0100
                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 17:47 +0000
                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 13:15 -0700
                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 16:27 -0400
                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 14:46 -0700
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 18:36 -0400
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 18:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 21:31 -0400
                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 22:12 +0000
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2017-07-11 19:01 -0400
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 02:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 22:44 -0700
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-12 10:24 -0400
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 20:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:17 -0700
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:42 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 16:11 -0700
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 18:21 -0700
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-12 07:28 -0400
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 05:10 -0700
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:45 +0000
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-12 18:39 -0500
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 21:29 -0700
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-13 20:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:22 -0700
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-14 11:55 -0500
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 21:01 -0400
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 02:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 22:56 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 05:03 +0000
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:50 -0400
                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 23:49 +0000
                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 23:04 -0400
                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 05:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 08:51 -0400
                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 17:23 +0000
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 18:08 -0400
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 02:02 +0000
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 12:53 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-17 13:04 -0500
                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 09:51 -0400
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-16 11:04 -0500
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 17:55 +0000
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 16:15 -0400
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 20:26 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 15:32 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:08 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-16 15:21 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 17:00 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-17 09:06 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-17 20:23 -0400
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 15:27 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 17:39 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-17 09:46 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 13:04 -0500
                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 07:04 +0100
                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:48 +0000
                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 06:50 +0100
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-13 17:29 +0000
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 05:51 +0100
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 05:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 06:36 +0100
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-15 00:27 -0600
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 08:52 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 06:40 +0100
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-16 16:02 -0400
                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 06:02 +0100
                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-17 20:31 -0400
                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-18 06:32 +0100
                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-18 21:10 -0400
                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 05:08 +0100
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-19 20:17 -0400
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-20 01:11 +0000
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 06:23 +0100
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 03:35 -0700
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 05:56 +0100
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-20 10:18 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-07-20 11:34 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-20 16:25 -0400
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#640004

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 13:15 -0700
Message-ID<sdcamc1s537m15nadg349a9fbj8vtnrr6k@4ax.com>
In reply to#639977
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>> 
>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>
>
>Could you be any more vague?
>

"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?


-- 
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
 truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
                               -- Thomas Jefferson

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#640005

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-11 16:27 -0400
Message-ID<m2damclfb32ve2n9pla9u4lklnvahscbba@4ax.com>
In reply to#640004
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:

>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>> 
>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>
>>
>>Could you be any more vague?
>>
>
>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?

Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
steel and water companies, too.

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#640020

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 14:46 -0700
Message-ID<9jhamc5svhqo2s3k2atqrgib8hsl383vvs@4ax.com>
In reply to#640005
krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>> 
>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>
>>
>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>
>
>Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>steel and water companies, too.
>

Do try to keep up.  The question was "what do people make at home?"
The question was not "What are people 3D-Printing at home?"

That being said, why not?  Where do you get the silly idea that
3D-printing only works for plastics?  People are 3D-printing rocket
combustion chambers and you think 'hardened steel' is a problem?


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#640038

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-11 18:36 -0400
Message-ID<nkkamcpfeemsp0qsptgtuh3v92u9ca0b95@4ax.com>
In reply to#640020
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:46:45 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:

>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>>
>>
>>Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>steel and water companies, too.
>>
>
>Do try to keep up.  The question was "what do people make at home?"
>The question was not "What are people 3D-Printing at home?"

You really do have a short attention span, don't you?  Probably ADHD.
>
>That being said, why not?  Where do you get the silly idea that
>3D-printing only works for plastics?  People are 3D-printing rocket
>combustion chambers and you think 'hardened steel' is a problem?

Do try to pay attention.  Maybe if you took notes.

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#640077

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 18:20 -0700
Message-ID<b9uamc1avdful8sqmp30netmdeuog0bqv3@4ax.com>
In reply to#640038
krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:46:45 -0700, Fred J. McCall
><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>>><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>>you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>>steel and water companies, too.
>>>
>>
>>Do try to keep up.  The question was "what do people make at home?"
>>The question was not "What are people 3D-Printing at home?"
>
>You really do have a short attention span, don't you?  Probably ADHD.

Lack of content noted.

>>
>>That being said, why not?  Where do you get the silly idea that
>>3D-printing only works for plastics?  People are 3D-printing rocket
>>combustion chambers and you think 'hardened steel' is a problem?
>
>Do try to pay attention.  Maybe if you took notes.

Lack of content noted.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#640079

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-11 21:31 -0400
Message-ID<buuamcd10ukjfap5ohp071fqqmr5178jsj@4ax.com>
In reply to#640077
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:20:26 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:

>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:46:45 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>>>><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>>>you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>>>steel and water companies, too.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Do try to keep up.  The question was "what do people make at home?"
>>>The question was not "What are people 3D-Printing at home?"
>>
>>You really do have a short attention span, don't you?  Probably ADHD.
>
>Lack of content noted.

You can't understand more.
>
>>>
>>>That being said, why not?  Where do you get the silly idea that
>>>3D-printing only works for plastics?  People are 3D-printing rocket
>>>combustion chambers and you think 'hardened steel' is a problem?
>>
>>Do try to pay attention.  Maybe if you took notes.
>
>Lack of content noted.

You can't understand more.

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#640034

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-11 22:12 +0000
Message-ID<24vf3e-srm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#640005
In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
> <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>> 
>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>
>>
>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
> 
> Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
> you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
> steel and water companies, too.

I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
girls.

I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.

Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#640046

FromSpehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
Date2017-07-11 19:01 -0400
Message-ID<kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com>
In reply to#640034
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:12:50 -0000, the renowned
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>> <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>> 
>> Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>> you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>> steel and water companies, too.
>
>I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>girls.

3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal. 


>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>
>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.

Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
myself in a CAM program. 

--sp 


-- 
Best regards, 
Spehro Pefhany

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#640089

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-12 02:24 +0000
Message-ID<erdg3e-4bo.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#640046
In sci.physics Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogdotyou.knowwhat> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:12:50 -0000, the renowned
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>>> <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>> 
>>> Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>> you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>> steel and water companies, too.
>>
>>I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>>girls.
> 
> 3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
> jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
> such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
> produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal. 

Yep, it will revolutionize the jewelry business...

>>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>>
>>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.
> 
> Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
> holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
> allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
> other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
> charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
> down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
> myself in a CAM program. 
> 
> --sp 

Something housewives across the continent have been clamoring for.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#640131

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 22:44 -0700
Message-ID<0ndbmc963sr1nb1ktj2djnctts4h2msjep@4ax.com>
In reply to#640089
Guy's, give up.  The Chimp's position is ALWAYS that nothing that
hasn't already been done can possibly be done or have an impact on
anything.  He can't help it.  He's a 1930's style bureaucrat.

jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogdotyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:12:50 -0000, the renowned
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>>>> <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>>> 
>>>> Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>>> you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>>> steel and water companies, too.
>>>
>>>I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>>>girls.
>> 
>> 3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
>> jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
>> such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
>> produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal. 
>
>Yep, it will revolutionize the jewelry business...
>
>>>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>>>
>>>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.
>> 
>> Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
>> holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
>> allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
>> other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
>> charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
>> down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
>> myself in a CAM program. 
>> 
>
>Something housewives across the continent have been clamoring for.
> 

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#640166

From"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com>
Date2017-07-12 10:24 -0400
Message-ID<ok5b7v$4ka$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#640046
"Spehro Pefhany"  wrote in message 
news:kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com...
====================================================================
...
3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal.


>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>
>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.

Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
myself in a CAM program.

--sp

-- 
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
---
====================================================================

Since it would have required a machinist I assume it was 3D-printed in 
metal? Who did the actual 3D-printing?

  Bob Clark

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#640394

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-13 20:57 -0400
Message-ID<vi5gmc1nfdueenltjtsga0ovr3agn2sp4n@4ax.com>
In reply to#640166
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:24:38 -0400, "Robert Clark"
<rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> wrote:

>"Spehro Pefhany"  wrote in message 
>news:kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com...
>====================================================================
>...
>3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
>jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
>such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
>produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal.

No one said that 3D printers weren't useful.  The argument is whether
they'll take over traditional manufacturing.  That is, everyone makes
what they need at home, on their magic printer.
>
>
>>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>>
>>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.
>
>Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
>holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
>allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
>other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
>charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
>down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
>myself in a CAM program.

How many people in the US would *ever* have done such?  I do this
stuff too and would no more dream of printing a stencil than
manufacturing my own PCBs.

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#640424

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-13 23:17 -0700
Message-ID<vcogmc5jblo80dk30ren3tp1uc8dlnefam@4ax.com>
In reply to#640394
krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:24:38 -0400, "Robert Clark"
><rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> wrote:
>
>>"Spehro Pefhany"  wrote in message 
>>news:kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com...
>>====================================================================
>>...
>>3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
>>jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
>>such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
>>produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal.
>
>No one said that 3D printers weren't useful.  The argument is whether
>they'll take over traditional manufacturing.  That is, everyone makes
>what they need at home, on their magic printer.
>

That is NOT the argument for most of us.  The argument is whether they
are 'game changing' or not.  Jimp the Chimp argues that they are niche
applications at best and will never be anything else.  The
counter-argument is when you start listing niches and potential
niches, pretty soon you're changing the game in a lot of places.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#640522

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-14 17:42 -0400
Message-ID<kleimcllla2ivhh7ddvhre2hfllp0su0lg@4ax.com>
In reply to#640424
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:17:55 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:

>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:24:38 -0400, "Robert Clark"
>><rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Spehro Pefhany"  wrote in message 
>>>news:kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com...
>>>====================================================================
>>>...
>>>3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
>>>jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
>>>such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
>>>produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal.
>>
>>No one said that 3D printers weren't useful.  The argument is whether
>>they'll take over traditional manufacturing.  That is, everyone makes
>>what they need at home, on their magic printer.
>>
>
>That is NOT the argument for most of us.  The argument is whether they
>are 'game changing' or not.  Jimp the Chimp argues that they are niche
>applications at best and will never be anything else.  The
>counter-argument is when you start listing niches and potential
>niches, pretty soon you're changing the game in a lot of places.

The "next industrial revolution" is a bit more than you pretend above.
You're wrong.

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#640536

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-14 16:11 -0700
Message-ID<0sjimc1vlte61k51a781gk3dd6fnl0sjm6@4ax.com>
In reply to#640522
krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:17:55 -0700, Fred J. McCall
><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:24:38 -0400, "Robert Clark"
>>><rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Spehro Pefhany"  wrote in message 
>>>>news:kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com...
>>>>====================================================================
>>>>...
>>>>3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
>>>>jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
>>>>such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
>>>>produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal.
>>>
>>>No one said that 3D printers weren't useful.  The argument is whether
>>>they'll take over traditional manufacturing.  That is, everyone makes
>>>what they need at home, on their magic printer.
>>>
>>
>>That is NOT the argument for most of us.  The argument is whether they
>>are 'game changing' or not.  Jimp the Chimp argues that they are niche
>>applications at best and will never be anything else.  The
>>counter-argument is when you start listing niches and potential
>>niches, pretty soon you're changing the game in a lot of places.
>
>The "next industrial revolution" is a bit more than you pretend above.
>You're wrong.
>

Thank you, Assertions R Us.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#640078

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 18:21 -0700
Message-ID<4buamc9vu5gn16po04cv9pe4jcvv8g96n3@4ax.com>
In reply to#640034
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>> <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>> 
>> Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>> you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>> steel and water companies, too.
>
>I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>girls.
>
>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>
>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.
>

If you want to see a tool someone made at home, look in the mirror.


-- 
You are 
What you do 
When it counts.

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#640146

FromJeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com>
Date2017-07-12 07:28 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.33cfd201d99e7be698998c@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#640034
In article <24vf3e-srm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
says...
> 
> 
> I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
> girls.

Perhaps, but have you been to a craft store in the last 5 years?  
They've been selling commercial 2d robotic cutters for many years that 
are about the size of an ink-jet printer.  The stupid thing shows 
absolutely no sign of stopping even though the "cartridges" which 
contain the cutting patterns are DRM protected and *very* expensive.  
They are mostly used by people who like to do scrap books, but others 
use them for making their own greeting cards and etc.

In those same craft stores is a large jewelery making section.  Those 
"memory bracelets" people make are a hot thing because "every item on it 
represents a memory".  In other words, these things are already highly 
customized.  

So, I wouldn't discount the notion that the crafts stores might start 
selling very small 3d metal printers for making little dangling things 
for jewelery (memory bracelets, necklace charms, and etc.) since this 
would drop right into the market-space.  They would only need to print 
at most 3" x 3" x 3" to cover 99% of the jewelery market.  

That same metal printer would sell "big league" at game stores where 
custom cast characters for board games are already a huge market.  In 
other words Dungeons and Dragons, Warhammer 40k, and etc.  Even if an 
individual player wouldn't want one, every damn game store on the planet 
would want at least a couple.

Jeff  
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#640150

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-12 05:10 -0700
Message-ID<1a4cmc59ntnatnq8b77fn7v1dn8uo02e7m@4ax.com>
In reply to#640146
Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:

>In article <24vf3e-srm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
>says...
>> 
>> 
>> I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>> girls.
>
>Perhaps, but have you been to a craft store in the last 5 years?  
>They've been selling commercial 2d robotic cutters for many years that 
>are about the size of an ink-jet printer.  The stupid thing shows 
>absolutely no sign of stopping even though the "cartridges" which 
>contain the cutting patterns are DRM protected and *very* expensive.  
>They are mostly used by people who like to do scrap books, but others 
>use them for making their own greeting cards and etc.
>
>In those same craft stores is a large jewelery making section.  Those 
>"memory bracelets" people make are a hot thing because "every item on it 
>represents a memory".  In other words, these things are already highly 
>customized.  
>
>So, I wouldn't discount the notion that the crafts stores might start 
>selling very small 3d metal printers for making little dangling things 
>for jewelery (memory bracelets, necklace charms, and etc.) since this 
>would drop right into the market-space.  They would only need to print 
>at most 3" x 3" x 3" to cover 99% of the jewelery market.  
>
>That same metal printer would sell "big league" at game stores where 
>custom cast characters for board games are already a huge market.  In 
>other words Dungeons and Dragons, Warhammer 40k, and etc.  Even if an 
>individual player wouldn't want one, every damn game store on the planet 
>would want at least a couple.
>

Any bets on what his response will be, Jeff?  I'm betting it will
include the word 'niche', 'crap', or both.  You see, the entire world
falls in those categories unless it is something we've been doing
since the 1930s...


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#640198

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-12 17:45 +0000
Message-ID<6r3i3e-7r.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#640146
In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <24vf3e-srm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
> says...
>> 
>> 
>> I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>> girls.
> 
> Perhaps, but have you been to a craft store in the last 5 years?  
> They've been selling commercial 2d robotic cutters for many years that 
> are about the size of an ink-jet printer.  The stupid thing shows 
> absolutely no sign of stopping even though the "cartridges" which 
> contain the cutting patterns are DRM protected and *very* expensive.  
> They are mostly used by people who like to do scrap books, but others 
> use them for making their own greeting cards and etc.
> 
> In those same craft stores is a large jewelery making section.  Those 
> "memory bracelets" people make are a hot thing because "every item on it 
> represents a memory".  In other words, these things are already highly 
> customized.  
> 
> So, I wouldn't discount the notion that the crafts stores might start 
> selling very small 3d metal printers for making little dangling things 
> for jewelery (memory bracelets, necklace charms, and etc.) since this 
> would drop right into the market-space.  They would only need to print 
> at most 3" x 3" x 3" to cover 99% of the jewelery market.  
> 
> That same metal printer would sell "big league" at game stores where 
> custom cast characters for board games are already a huge market.  In 
> other words Dungeons and Dragons, Warhammer 40k, and etc.  Even if an 
> individual player wouldn't want one, every damn game store on the planet 
> would want at least a couple.
> 
> Jeff  

By those standards black powder firearms will take over the firearms world.

I'm not saying there is not and will not be a bunch of niche users of
3D printing.

What I am saying is that 3D printing is not going to be the next industrial
revolution.


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Jim Pennino

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#640249

FromSerg io <invaalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-07-12 18:39 -0500
Message-ID<ok6bv6$3a4$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#640198
On 7/12/2017 12:45 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
>> In article <24vf3e-srm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> says...
>>>
>>>
>>> I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>>> girls.
>>
>> Perhaps, but have you been to a craft store in the last 5 years?
>> They've been selling commercial 2d robotic cutters for many years that
>> are about the size of an ink-jet printer.  The stupid thing shows
>> absolutely no sign of stopping even though the "cartridges" which
>> contain the cutting patterns are DRM protected and *very* expensive.
>> They are mostly used by people who like to do scrap books, but others
>> use them for making their own greeting cards and etc.
>>
>> In those same craft stores is a large jewelery making section.  Those
>> "memory bracelets" people make are a hot thing because "every item on it
>> represents a memory".  In other words, these things are already highly
>> customized.
>>
>> So, I wouldn't discount the notion that the crafts stores might start
>> selling very small 3d metal printers for making little dangling things
>> for jewelery (memory bracelets, necklace charms, and etc.) since this
>> would drop right into the market-space.  They would only need to print
>> at most 3" x 3" x 3" to cover 99% of the jewelery market.

>> That same metal printer would sell "big league" at game stores where
>> custom cast characters for board games are already a huge market.  In
>> other words Dungeons and Dragons, Warhammer 40k, and etc.  Even if an
>> individual player wouldn't want one, every damn game store on the planet
>> would want at least a couple.
>>
>> Jeff
> 
> By those standards black powder firearms will take over the firearms world.
> 
> I'm not saying there is not and will not be a bunch of niche users of
> 3D printing.
> 
> What I am saying is that 3D printing is not going to be the next industrial
> revolution.
> 
> 

major limitation is, one cannot "print" higher melting temp material on 
lower melting point material.

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